Based off of what exactly?? The most ever stated to be destroyed in DBZ is planets. Even Buu destroyed things planet by planet. No mass destruction. And btw, SSJ4 Goku is non canon and thus doesn't exist in the official DBZ universe. It also makes Goku look weaker tbh, with SSJ$ Vegeta struggling to hold up a building and SSJ$ Goku doing the same with maybe a city or something. Plus in GT they had that whole, unclean air = no SSJ thing which would make Goku much worse.
What the fuck is that? From an episode of DBZ or what, at least explain it nigga? And even if it is in an episode, it has to be in the manga to count. Plus we know Buu can't destroy galaxies(like the one in that gif) because he put his power into a blast and only destroyed a planet. He was a mindless killing machine, if he coudla he woulda.
Not counting the mega cosmic entities like Galactus, The Spectre, The Living Tribunal etc.....
The Sentry
Emerald Twilight era Hal Jordan/Parallax (before he became a giant yellow grasshopper)
Possibly the Silver Surfer
The Phoenix
Kyle Rayner as Ion
Mon-El since now he's a Green Lantern
Blue Lanterns (as long as they're in proximity with a GL)
Captain Universe
okay so i see yall bring out the elite of elite characters to fight a super saiyan & win
so what if this so called super saiyan, decided to ascend to the next level? or wait, are we talking the ultimate super saiyan (ssj4) vs, the best from marvel, capcom, etc..?
Not counting the mega cosmic entities like Galactus, The Spectre, The Living Tribunal etc.....
The Sentry
Emerald Twilight era Hal Jordan/Parallax (before he became a giant yellow grasshopper)
Possibly the Silver Surfer
The Phoenix
Kyle Rayner as Ion
Mon-El since now he's a Green Lantern
Blue Lanterns (as long as they're in proximity with a GL)
Captain Universe
In this case, then there's also some Omega-class mutants (X-man) and a host of others
In this case, then there's also some Omega-class mutants (X-man) and a host of others
Phoenix (Jean Grey) is an Omega level mutant, even without the Phoenix Force. I dunno about the other one (Rachel Summers), though. Its looking like that new chic Hope is an Omega level mutant, too.
Phoenix Force Jean Grey would def beat a Super Saiyan, irregardless of what level they're at or if they're fused.
if superman got up close and personal with one he could take'em also the hulk. Dr. Strange could cast a spell on em. spectre and sentry could takem... hell if wolverine catch one slipping he could gut'em. those supersaiyans werent all that physically strong if I remember correctly
People already mentioned Dr. Manhattan. I'm not even sure if anyone from either canon can defeat him.
I think that people are overrating saiyans. I know that people are overrating Broly and that just pisses me off. Broly is not that powerful. He looks and sounds powerful but he is far from being the most powerful character in the dragonball universe. Plus, it seems like many saiyans rely on their power a lot. DC, Marvel, etc characters have a lot of brains. The Joker has technically no special powers but he's outwitted many of his more powerful foes with his shrewdness and use of intimidation alone. And Goku isnt the smartest fella. And Vegeta sure isnt either. And you know how arrogant and cocky Saiyans are.
I'm not an expert either but that's my two cents. There's no real absolute right answer anyway. It's just fun.
I think niggas forget that Superman holds back his power big time. I straight up brawl? I don't see anyone beating superman. Especially not on earth. With the sunlight he'd have bottomless energy. And a part of me thinks that chi shit would only give superman energy too.
when talking about goku vs superman, they always let goku power up to super sayan 4 n shit but never talk about supes more powerful forms that can control dimensions n shit
I still say the Silver Surfer whips any Saiyan's ass. I know that he's been on the losing end of some questionable fights to people he should've mopped the floor with, but that's what happens when u get BS writers sometimes.
Just to give u an idea of exactly how fast the Surfer is, look at the scan below:
The nigga searched an ENTIRE planet before Dr Strange could even finish a sentence. Not even Goku's Instant Transmission technique is on par with that shit.
the old scan from the Defenders. That's one of the scans folks use to determine Surfer as having true superspeed and not just flight speed.
I see u still don't wanna give the Surfer his due in this comparison, huh?
Like I said, depending on who's writing the story, the Surfer's been on the losing end of some shitty stories. The one that takes the cake for is when he was actually hurt by one of Storm's lightning bolts. Yet, here u have a being who's darn near on divine levels, who can withstand being in the dead center of a star and being in a black hole. This guy has gone toe to toe with the likes of Thor and War World Hulk and survived. Yet this nigga was hurt by Storm???
In regards to brute strength, we've all seen Goku get the shit stomped outta him several times. Plus, dem Saiyans are kinda cocky in fights and are easily outsmarted at times.
Meanwhile, the Surfer is taking punches on the chin from powerhouses like the She-Hulk and not even flinching. Yall see that not even the Sentry could withstand a punch from her:
In regards to energy manipulation, if the Surfer could do this to Firelord imagine wtf he'd do to Goku and any energy based attack that he'd throw at him:
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1 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign 1Ether GOAT LOL •What the fuck is that? From an episode of DBZ or what, at least explain it nigga? And even if it is in an episode, it has to be in the manga to count. Plus we know Buu can't destroy galaxies(like the one in that gif) because he put his power into a blast and only destroyed a planet. He was a mindless killing machine, if he coudla he woulda.
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •damn yamcha lol
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •The Sentry
Emerald Twilight era Hal Jordan/Parallax (before he became a giant yellow grasshopper)
Possibly the Silver Surfer
The Phoenix
Kyle Rayner as Ion
Mon-El since now he's a Green Lantern
Blue Lanterns (as long as they're in proximity with a GL)
Captain Universe
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •so what if this so called super saiyan, decided to ascend to the next level? or wait, are we talking the ultimate super saiyan (ssj4) vs, the best from marvel, capcom, etc..?
if thats the case then......
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Phoenix (Jean Grey) is an Omega level mutant, even without the Phoenix Force. I dunno about the other one (Rachel Summers), though. Its looking like that new chic Hope is an Omega level mutant, too.
Phoenix Force Jean Grey would def beat a Super Saiyan, irregardless of what level they're at or if they're fused.
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •DC kept making Superman stronger over the years so I dont take him seriously.
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •if superman got up close and personal with one he could take'em also the hulk. Dr. Strange could cast a spell on em. spectre and sentry could takem... hell if wolverine catch one slipping he could gut'em. those supersaiyans werent all that physically strong if I remember correctly
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Don't think supes would get hurt by the spirit bomb since i doesnt affec ppl of pure heart
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •I think that people are overrating saiyans. I know that people are overrating Broly and that just pisses me off. Broly is not that powerful. He looks and sounds powerful but he is far from being the most powerful character in the dragonball universe. Plus, it seems like many saiyans rely on their power a lot. DC, Marvel, etc characters have a lot of brains. The Joker has technically no special powers but he's outwitted many of his more powerful foes with his shrewdness and use of intimidation alone. And Goku isnt the smartest fella. And Vegeta sure isnt either. And you know how arrogant and cocky Saiyans are.
I'm not an expert either but that's my two cents. There's no real absolute right answer anyway. It's just fun.
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •A spirit bomb can't hurt you if you aren't evil, and this is SUPERMAN we're talking about here. The ultimate Boy Scout.
So, right off the bat, Goku is without one of his major trump cards. And I just don't see him standing up to Superman in a physical brawl.
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Just to give u an idea of exactly how fast the Surfer is, look at the scan below:
The nigga searched an ENTIRE planet before Dr Strange could even finish a sentence. Not even Goku's Instant Transmission technique is on par with that shit.
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •I see u still don't wanna give the Surfer his due in this comparison, huh?
Like I said, depending on who's writing the story, the Surfer's been on the losing end of some shitty stories. The one that takes the cake for is when he was actually hurt by one of Storm's lightning bolts. Yet, here u have a being who's darn near on divine levels, who can withstand being in the dead center of a star and being in a black hole. This guy has gone toe to toe with the likes of Thor and War World Hulk and survived. Yet this nigga was hurt by Storm???
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Meanwhile, the Surfer is taking punches on the chin from powerhouses like the She-Hulk and not even flinching. Yall see that not even the Sentry could withstand a punch from her:
In regards to energy manipulation, if the Surfer could do this to Firelord imagine wtf he'd do to Goku and any energy based attack that he'd throw at him:
Not even a fair fight...by any means
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