Do you think Big pun was a horrible human being ?

hiphophova

Big Punisher was a horrible man !

I know it cant be just me but a round my hiphop circles past and present no one gives Big Pun credit, sure he could rhyme words together and many people mostly latinos regard Big Punisher’s first album as a minor classic.

When you talk about hiphop legends big pun face is in the murial due to him being one of the first latino’s to make major hiphop moves and him being dead but as far as repeated verses and music replay he is a non factor.

If you listen to his first album you will find out he is a horrible human being, every other words is about him being a killer, him being big bad and mean and how he is fond of evil things. Even Biggie showed a lighter side, there is nothing about Big Pun that makes him a good MC outside of the fact he was a multi-syllable rhymer …. And as years past its shown he star is faded and all those evil things on record turned out to be true outside of his gluttony he was a twisted wife beater.

Big Pun was a bad human being and his music reflects this and that’s how the support has been, outside of latino’s ignoring the fact he is a nasty man he gets no real coverage outside 2 songs.

Still not a player ft. Joe
Its so hard ft. Donell Jones

What’s your opinion ?

lamontbdc

sure was for beating the fuck outta of his wife not for his music. he was a good artist.

genocide_cutter

Mr. Perfect

hiphophova

real talk, judge not.

Like lamontbdc said he was a woman beater a vicous one who pistol whipped his wife's eye balls out the socket i saw the footage with my own 2 eyes and as for his music there are no redeeming qualitites for his negative bullshit.

+ this the same woman who used to wipe his gigantic ass after every toilet visit and you know that was many many many times a day

@genocide-cutter. Curt Henning was the man, you could learna thing or two from Minnesoda's finest.

snappa

lamontbdc wrote: »

sure was for beating the fuck outta of his wife not for his music. he was a good artist.

I am pretty sure even Gandhi would have whupped that bitch's ass.

nujerz84

For his music no imo.. Pac and BIG and others music was much more viloent than Pun was.

hiphophova

wife beating = does not automatically mean bad person .......... but this big ass man was beating the shit out of his wife who would wipe his ass daily, he popped out her eye socket with a gun in front of children. that shit is far from cool.

@nujerz84.

Pac and Big both had songs and lines in verses that would indicate they are lovers of people basically shows they had heart and good men. find me just a couple bars in a big pun verse that is directed towards the good for others, no self-gain and i will apologise personally to every puerto rican in the bronx.

dude was vermin.

nujerz84

hiphophova wrote: »

wife beating = does not automatically mean bad person .......... but this big ass man was beating the shit out of his wife who would wipe his ass daily, he popped out her eye socket with a gun in front of children. that shit is far from cool.

@nujerz84.

Pac and Big both had songs and lines in verses that would indicate they are lovers of people basically shows they had heart and good men. find me just a couple bars in a big pun verse that is directed towards the good for others, no self-gain and i will apologise personally to every puerto rican in the bronx.

dude was vermin.

You Came Up

Punish Me


Two songs off that album you talking bout.


100% of Yeah Baby

How We Roll of Endangered Species are others


Like I Said Pac and BIG hardest shit is more violent than anything Pun did.

phantom0900

i heard he was a wife beater and i dont doubt it, but the nigga busted the broads eye out the socket? and she wiped his ass daily? where you gettin thsese stories from?

nujerz84

phantom0900 wrote: »

i heard he was a wife beater and i dont doubt it, but the nigga busted the broads eye out the socket? and she wiped his ass daily? where you gettin thsese stories from?

It was caught on DVD He pistol whipped that broad IDK bout Eye coming the socket but she needed stiches.

Ibex

If his wife allowed an 800 pound nigga to hit her she deserved it....I mean getting out of his seat had to be a process how can you not dodge a punch that slow?

icecoldstew

So were judging people from words written to entertain now? Smh

hiphophova

You Came Up

Punish Me

They are about himself, he is talking about improving his life and a woman thats personal gain. The whole big pun first LP is like some satanis shit.

Pac & Big may have more violent records i doubt that but it's balanced and people love them, Big Pun has no uplifting shit outside of trying to lift himself and maybe his crew.

Give me just at least 2 bars where Big Pun is wishing others well or caring about people other than himself.

just one.

hiphophova

phantom0900 wrote: »

i heard he was a wife beater and i dont doubt it, but the nigga busted the broads eye out the socket? and she wiped his ass daily? where you gettin thsese stories from?

son that shit is on the dvd maybe even youtube, the eyeball came out the socket it was in slow motion ... cctv footage black and white.

his wife has said numerous times she wiped his ass because he was too fat to do it himself. this is all facts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLl_ZLjUIPc

it's not clear, but on the dvd you can see it close up and even hear her talking about his behaviour towards them and the children and you will know the dude is vermin.

nujerz84

hiphophova wrote: »

They are about himself, he is talking about improving his life and a woman thats personal gain. The whole big pun first LP is like some satanis shit.

Pac & Big may have more violent records i doubt that but it's balanced and people love them, Big Pun has no uplifting shit outside of trying to lift himself and maybe his crew.

Give me just at least 2 bars where Big Pun is wishing others well or caring about people other than himself.

just one.

Satanis shit??? You must be listening to another Big Pun I listened too... IMO SUcidal Thoughts is more Satanic than anything BIg Pun spit.

blackstarr

Ibex wrote: »

If his wife allowed an 800 pound nigga to hit her she deserved it....I mean getting out of his seat had to be a process how can you not dodge a punch that slow?

that shit made me lol...damn

nujerz84

hiphophova wrote: »

They are about himself, he is talking about improving his life and a woman thats personal gain. The whole big pun first LP is like some satanis shit.

Pac & Big may have more violent records i doubt that but it's balanced and people love them, Big Pun has no uplifting shit outside of trying to lift himself and maybe his crew.

Give me just at least 2 bars where Big Pun is wishing others well or caring about people other than himself.

just one.

What songs BIG have about uplifitng Black People????? Skys The Limit is about himself to use your arguement .

DMTxCannabis

hiphophova wrote: »

They are about himself, he is talking about improving his life and a woman thats personal gain. The whole big pun first LP is like some satanis shit.

Pac & Big may have more violent records i doubt that but it's balanced and people love them, Big Pun has no uplifting shit outside of trying to lift himself and maybe his crew.

Give me just at least 2 bars where Big Pun is wishing others well or caring about people other than himself.

just one.

His verse on Wishful Thinking

Edit: on a side note, Fat Joe was nasty when Pun was around

hiphophova

@nujerz84.

your right i never cared for biggie he is similar to Pun, but his music gets love and his bars get repeated. I too am not fond of Big as a man but at least he has songs and bits in verses that is not some evil self-indulgent shit.

young_reezy

it's a lot of fucked up people who have wonderful gifts, thats no excuse but he wasn't claiming he was a boy scout.

hiphophova

DMTxCannabis wrote: »

His verse on Wishful Thinking

Edit: on a side note, Fat Joe was nasty when Pun was around

WHAAAT ? 2 bars about his sorry for beating his wife ?

give me 2 bars where big pun does not rhyme about self-gain, evil shit about himself or maybe his crew ?

you gave me 2 bars about him saying sorry for whooping his WIFE ass, understand when i say Big Pun did not care for anybody outiside himself and maybe his crew.

dude is vermin, im still waiting on proof where he though about others (outside of how he would kill them/rob them/beat them/etc)

phantom0900

DMTxCannabis wrote: »

His verse on Wishful Thinking

Edit: on a side note, Fat Joe was nasty when Pun was around

Joey is still nasty, he dont get the respect he deserve. I was bangin his shit omw to work today, hte nigga said it himself, he got an ear for music, and he truely do.

DMTxCannabis

hiphophova wrote: »

WHAAAT ? 2 bars about his sorry for beating his wife ?

give me 2 bars where big pun does not rhyme about self-gain, evil shit about himself or maybe his crew ?

you gave me 2 bars about him saying sorry for whooping his WIFE ass, understand when i say Big Pun did not care for anybody outiside himself and maybe his crew.

dude is vermin, im still waiting on proof where he thought about others (outside of how he would kill them/rob them/beat them/etc)

It's in the same verse

"it seems everytime i dream i'm in a nightmare/ i fiend to live in a world where mothers are queens, and men would fight fair"

"Repent, and thou shall be forgiven/ How can we be proud to live in a world that condemns man, child and women"

DMTxCannabis

Here's another example...

Pun's verse...

My Twinz already know, I'm always amped and ready to roll
Lendin me dough for Pampers when it was twenty below
That's how I know who to trust
That's how I know for who to bust
To shoot as many a clan concerned from Clue to Clutch
Who the fuck said that color matter? Your own brother
blacker than black'll leave you in the gutter splattered
It's automatic now with all the static
Only a coward or a faggot hides his flowers in the attic
I keep em close, to shine to blossom, try to floss em
Cried every time I lost one, fake niggaz come a dime a dozen
That's why I'm buggin, shorties is luggin heavy metal
Just call me a rebel cause I'ma keep reppin for every ghetto
For better or worse, up in the Jetta it hurts
I'ma keep reppin my niggaz til I'm dead in the earth
I'm settin the first, if niggaz want it we can three pound rock
Give me a call, you know the Big Pun'll be down

Who Cares???

He beat his wife. So? I rather a dude stomp his wife into ground beef than molest kids. Unless Pun was your father beating your mother, the fuck you worried about it? Dude was a ridiculous rapper. I don't give a shit what he did to his wife

nujerz84

Pun was known as a Jokester who pulled pranks...