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What good is Emceeing if you not saying anything in the Lyrics?

BigavelliBigavelli Posts: 3,465
edited August 2011 in The Reason
Isn't that what seperates the men from boys Lyrical Content?



Doe't a regular person who Rap's for fun just Rap random things for the sake of it?



Isn't Song Writting, Lyrical Content, what is being said and the message in the Song what makes an Artist good?

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  • KeepinItHundredKeepinItHundred Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2011
    what rapper are you getting at? all "lyrical rappers"
    and of course you're bigging up eminem again.
  • cobblandcobbland "Shorty": Belly (1998) Chicago...Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2011

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  • BigavelliBigavelli Posts: 3,465
    edited August 2011
    what rapper are you getting at? all "lyrical rappers"
    and of course you're bigging up eminem again.


    Just any Rapper who Rap's with out saying anything just rhyming words


    I'm not bigging up any particular 1 Artist but of course aside from Eminem i'm bigging up 2pac, ZRO, Nas, Dead Prez, Joe Budden etc i don't like Joe Budden but can never take away the man crafting Song's saying something
  • KeepinItHundredKeepinItHundred Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2011
    Bigavelli wrote: »
    Just any Rapper who Rap's with out saying anything just rhyming words


    I'm not bigging up any particular 1 Artist but of course aside from Eminem i'm bigging up 2pac, ZRO, Nas, Dead Prez, Joe Budden etc i don't like Joe Budden but can never take away the man crafting Song's saying something

    well i can agree here, all that "i'm so lyrical" talk is kinda lame.
  • t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2011
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  • CA_chapter_OneCA_chapter_One Posts: 25
    edited August 2011
    When I was working on my MixTape: Chapter I which is hitting the net MID SEPTEMBER I was just going with the mood I was currently in while writing. The next MixTape i am going to take more time working on the lyrics and wanting to make it deeper. I believe lyrics NEED to have meaning and also be very witty But in todays music niggas aint thinking about lyrics they want to do what sales so they follow the trend. I hope this all makes sense. I guess there are more rappers than Emcees. Rappers do what ever but an Emcee does more than just write. I think Emcee'ing died in the mid 90's in my opinion and going into the 2000's is when rappers took over. So if you didnt have any controversy behind your music you wasn't hot.........For example lil wayne gets put on this high pedestal because look at this nigga......he puts on tight jeans and people talk about him for months. Every thing he does generates talk. he is like a walking marketing tool......the nigga dont talk about shit. i think after the Carter II his lyrics went down hill......idk man im just saying.
  • chillychilly Posts: 1,206 ✭✭
    edited August 2011
    its why i havent been a fan of wayne since carter 1, and eminem since eminem show. they just rhyming to rhyme now.
  • BigavelliBigavelli Posts: 3,465
    edited August 2011
    well i can agree here, all that "i'm so lyrical" talk is kinda lame.



    Yeah that's what i'm saying a true Lyricist is someone that Writes Song's with meaning but cleverly and covers all the fundementals of a good Song somene that does the Word Play but makes sense covers a topic speaks about things relatable to the listener and expresses their life through words
  • CJCJ Posts: 15,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2011
  • BigavelliBigavelli Posts: 3,465
    edited August 2011
    chilly wrote: »
    its why i havent been a fan of wayne since carter 1, and eminem since eminem show. they just rhyming to rhyme now.


    I mean Recovery is 1 of Eminem's most powerful Album's as far as Message and covering what he been through in his life talking about his struggles on pretty much every track along with The Eminem Show it is his most Introperspective/Personal Album from start to finish


    Encore had so many Deep and Personal Song's too


    Then of course Lose Yourself and The 8 Mile Soundtrack which came after the Eminem Show on there was Deep too also the solo Song's of Eminem on The Re Up were deep too



    But majority of Relapse aside from Beautiful, Deja Vu, Be Careful What You Wish For it was just rhymiing to rhyme not saying anything like you said and on the Bad Meets Evil EP too



    So have to correct you on this
  • MC The RapperMC The Rapper Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2011
    thats most of eminem's career
  • cobblandcobbland "Shorty": Belly (1998) Chicago...Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2011

    In stores now.
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  • BigavelliBigavelli Posts: 3,465
    edited August 2011
    When I was working on my MixTape: Chapter I which is hitting the net MID SEPTEMBER I was just going with the mood I was currently in while writing. The next MixTape i am going to take more time working on the lyrics and wanting to make it deeper. I believe lyrics NEED to have meaning and also be very witty But in todays music niggas aint thinking about lyrics they want to do what sales so they follow the trend. I hope this all makes sense. I guess there are more rappers than Emcees. Rappers do what ever but an Emcee does more than just write. I think Emcee'ing died in the mid 90's in my opinion and going into the 2000's is when rappers took over. So if you didnt have any controversy behind your music you wasn't hot.........For example lil wayne gets put on this high pedestal because look at this nigga......he puts on tight jeans and people talk about him for months. Every thing he does generates talk. he is like a walking marketing tool......the nigga dont talk about shit. i think after the Carter II his lyrics went down hill......idk man im just saying.



    That's the problem people have with Emcees like Lil Wayne, Cory Gunz, Cannabis etc for the most part aqtleast on a lotta tracks they just Rapping and not saying anything making randomwords rhyme like they reading a dictionary



    Talib Kweli is an Emcee, Rapper whatever you wanna call it that is a real Emcee and Artist cos he can Rap with content he saying something the Lyrics mean something
  • BigavelliBigavelli Posts: 3,465
    edited August 2011
    thats most of eminem's career


    You mean Slim Shady


    Cos you obviously haven't heard The Eminem Show, Recovery and the deep/personal tracks on his other Albums like Rock Bottom, If I Had, Mockingbird etc


    I just hate ignorance
  • MC The RapperMC The Rapper Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2011
    Bigavelli wrote: »
    You mean Slim Shady


    Cos you obviously haven't heard The Eminem Show, Recovery and the deep/personal tracks on his other Albums like Rock Bottom, If I Had, Mockingbird etc


    I just hate ignorance

    yeah i had eminem show when it came out . most of his career means like infinite, his days with rawkus etc and he was rapping just to rap . one or two songs on one or two albums . He not known for his personal tracks he is known for his rapping ability and shockin/obscene content not his cry baby tracks
  • cobblandcobbland "Shorty": Belly (1998) Chicago...Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2011
    Bigavelli wrote: »
    That's the problem people have with Emcees like Lil Wayne, Cory Gunz, Cannabis etc for the most part aqtleast on a lotta tracks they just Rapping and not saying anything making randomwords rhyme like they reading a dictionary



    Talib Kweli is an Emcee, Rapper whatever you wanna call it that is a real Emcee and Artist cos he can Rap with content he saying something the Lyrics mean something


    At least spell his name right.
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