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Was Jesus referring to Yahweh/Jehovah or someone else???

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  • waterproofwaterproof Posts: 7,045
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    Thats the only lame comeback you can come up with I see.. they are basically talking about ANY religion that requires ppl to observe special days, Times, seasons, and years which just so happens to fit your religion. Little do you know Christ came to LIBERATE ppl from the bondage of religion. Not only him but many of the other saviour gods as well like Buddha or Krishna. It was the Roman Catholic church that corrupted his teachings to make it seem like he was religious wen in reality he came to free ppl from that bs.
    You lying serpent again post the whole scripture so everybody can see who paul was talking to. And christ came for one thing only and that was to redeem the lost sheep of israel. And lets not talking about krishna, I schooled you already on him

    Oh plz, u jus trying to act like its talking about anything else than what its clearly saying. It says observing days, months, and years puts you in BONDAGE.. if I was to give u the benefit of the doubt their description of bondage by being required to observe certain days still fits the description of your religion as well. Cuz don't yours require ppl to observe certain days? Well according to galatians, that's a form of BONDAGE. So your religion puts ppl into BONDAGE and Christ came to free ppl from religion.

    Ok...the observing of days and months people in bondage huh?

    Mat 26:19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.

    Jhn 13:1Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.


    So Yeshua observes Passover but, a set time, an annual observance AND theFeast of Unleavend bread but PAUL who wasnt even around him is a basis for your thesis? For real?

    Those set times cycles and seasons are called LAWS. Yeshua himself said:

    Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    The scripture still states what it states about being required to observe set days, times, months, and years being a form of bondage. so no matter how many other scriptures you search for it still says what it says. period.

    Romans 8:15
    For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

    Ignorant ass fool and heathen according to paul, if you is not a follower of Yah snd yahushua, you serve false gods, then your spirit is in bondage. Paul is writing to the romans, who are heathens why don't you post the whole scripts
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  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    Thats the only lame comeback you can come up with I see.. they are basically talking about ANY religion that requires ppl to observe special days, Times, seasons, and years which just so happens to fit your religion. Little do you know Christ came to LIBERATE ppl from the bondage of religion. Not only him but many of the other saviour gods as well like Buddha or Krishna. It was the Roman Catholic church that corrupted his teachings to make it seem like he was religious wen in reality he came to free ppl from that bs.
    You lying serpent again post the whole scripture so everybody can see who paul was talking to. And christ came for one thing only and that was to redeem the lost sheep of israel. And lets not talking about krishna, I schooled you already on him

    Oh plz, u jus trying to act like its talking about anything else than what its clearly saying. It says observing days, months, and years puts you in BONDAGE.. if I was to give u the benefit of the doubt their description of bondage by being required to observe certain days still fits the description of your religion as well. Cuz don't yours require ppl to observe certain days? Well according to galatians, that's a form of BONDAGE. So your religion puts ppl into BONDAGE and Christ came to free ppl from religion.

    Ok...the observing of days and months people in bondage huh?

    Mat 26:19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.

    Jhn 13:1Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.


    So Yeshua observes Passover but, a set time, an annual observance AND theFeast of Unleavend bread but PAUL who wasnt even around him is a basis for your thesis? For real?

    Those set times cycles and seasons are called LAWS. Yeshua himself said:

    Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    The scripture still states what it states about being required to observe set days, times, months, and years being a form of bondage. so no matter how many other scriptures you search for it still says what it says. period.

    Romans 8:15
    For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

    Ignorant ass fool and heathen according to paul, if you is not a follower of Yah snd yahushua, you serve false gods, then your spirit is in bondage. Paul is writing to the romans, who are heathens why don't you post the whole scripts

    I am a follower of Yeshua and his Father and that't it. Yeshua never mentioned Yahweh as his father. And no nigga he was talking about OBSERVING DAYS, MONTHS, TIMES, AND YEARS puts you in bondage. did you read all of the scripture?

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  • waterproofwaterproof Posts: 7,045
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    Thats the only lame comeback you can come up with I see.. they are basically talking about ANY religion that requires ppl to observe special days, Times, seasons, and years which just so happens to fit your religion. Little do you know Christ came to LIBERATE ppl from the bondage of religion. Not only him but many of the other saviour gods as well like Buddha or Krishna. It was the Roman Catholic church that corrupted his teachings to make it seem like he was religious wen in reality he came to free ppl from that bs.
    You lying serpent again post the whole scripture so everybody can see who paul was talking to. And christ came for one thing only and that was to redeem the lost sheep of israel. And lets not talking about krishna, I schooled you already on him

    Oh plz, u jus trying to act like its talking about anything else than what its clearly saying. It says observing days, months, and years puts you in BONDAGE.. if I was to give u the benefit of the doubt their description of bondage by being required to observe certain days still fits the description of your religion as well. Cuz don't yours require ppl to observe certain days? Well according to galatians, that's a form of BONDAGE. So your religion puts ppl into BONDAGE and Christ came to free ppl from religion.

    Ok...the observing of days and months people in bondage huh?

    Mat 26:19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.

    Jhn 13:1Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.


    So Yeshua observes Passover but, a set time, an annual observance AND theFeast of Unleavend bread but PAUL who wasnt even around him is a basis for your thesis? For real?

    Those set times cycles and seasons are called LAWS. Yeshua himself said:

    Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    The scripture still states what it states about being required to observe set days, times, months, and years being a form of bondage. so no matter how many other scriptures you search for it still says what it says. period.
    hat
    Romans 8:15
    For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

    So you are saying that paul word is over Yahushua, you still got that pauline doctrine greek influence heathen spirit in you, only a matter of time before your true self comes out, I exposed you before
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  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    Thats the only lame comeback you can come up with I see.. they are basically talking about ANY religion that requires ppl to observe special days, Times, seasons, and years which just so happens to fit your religion. Little do you know Christ came to LIBERATE ppl from the bondage of religion. Not only him but many of the other saviour gods as well like Buddha or Krishna. It was the Roman Catholic church that corrupted his teachings to make it seem like he was religious wen in reality he came to free ppl from that bs.
    You lying serpent again post the whole scripture so everybody can see who paul was talking to. And christ came for one thing only and that was to redeem the lost sheep of israel. And lets not talking about krishna, I schooled you already on him

    Oh plz, u jus trying to act like its talking about anything else than what its clearly saying. It says observing days, months, and years puts you in BONDAGE.. if I was to give u the benefit of the doubt their description of bondage by being required to observe certain days still fits the description of your religion as well. Cuz don't yours require ppl to observe certain days? Well according to galatians, that's a form of BONDAGE. So your religion puts ppl into BONDAGE and Christ came to free ppl from religion.

    Ok...the observing of days and months people in bondage huh?

    Mat 26:19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.

    Jhn 13:1Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.


    So Yeshua observes Passover but, a set time, an annual observance AND theFeast of Unleavend bread but PAUL who wasnt even around him is a basis for your thesis? For real?

    Those set times cycles and seasons are called LAWS. Yeshua himself said:

    Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    The scripture still states what it states about being required to observe set days, times, months, and years being a form of bondage. so no matter how many other scriptures you search for it still says what it says. period.
    hat
    Romans 8:15
    For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

    So you are saying that paul word is over Yahushua, you still got that pauline doctrine greek influence heathen spirit in you, only a matter of time before your true self comes out, I exposed you before


    So by saying that Paul is a false prophet or his words don't matter means you are also admitting that the KJV Bible cannot be trusted in it's entirety. And yeah that scripture is good. Who want's to be in bondage to religion? Christ came to set us FREE from that bs.
    bambu
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  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117

    Bobby Hemmitt exposing Yaldabaoth aka Yahweh.


    bambu
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  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    Thats the only lame comeback you can come up with I see.. they are basically talking about ANY religion that requires ppl to observe special days, Times, seasons, and years which just so happens to fit your religion. Little do you know Christ came to LIBERATE ppl from the bondage of religion. Not only him but many of the other saviour gods as well like Buddha or Krishna. It was the Roman Catholic church that corrupted his teachings to make it seem like he was religious wen in reality he came to free ppl from that bs.
    You lying serpent again post the whole scripture so everybody can see who paul was talking to. And christ came for one thing only and that was to redeem the lost sheep of israel. And lets not talking about krishna, I schooled you already on him

    Oh plz, u jus trying to act like its talking about anything else than what its clearly saying. It says observing days, months, and years puts you in BONDAGE.. if I was to give u the benefit of the doubt their description of bondage by being required to observe certain days still fits the description of your religion as well. Cuz don't yours require ppl to observe certain days? Well according to galatians, that's a form of BONDAGE. So your religion puts ppl into BONDAGE and Christ came to free ppl from religion.

    Ok...the observing of days and months people in bondage huh?

    Mat 26:19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.

    Jhn 13:1Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.


    So Yeshua observes Passover but, a set time, an annual observance AND theFeast of Unleavend bread but PAUL who wasnt even around him is a basis for your thesis? For real?

    Those set times cycles and seasons are called LAWS. Yeshua himself said:

    Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    The scripture still states what it states about being required to observe set days, times, months, and years being a form of bondage. so no matter how many other scriptures you search for it still says what it says. period.
    hat
    Romans 8:15
    For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

    So you are saying that paul word is over Yahushua, you still got that pauline doctrine greek influence heathen spirit in you, only a matter of time before your true self comes out, I exposed you before


    You can't see the truth in Christ cuz the god of this world Yaldabaoth has corrupted his teachings and added non spiritual laws putting you into bondage to the elements of the world and stagnating our spiritual growth. If you read the Gnostic gospels it is about us becoming and unleaching the Christ that is within everyone of us. It is not about worshipping a entity or doing religious rituals out of fear of being punished.



    2 Corinthians 4:4
    The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.


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  • waterproofwaterproof Posts: 7,045
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    Thats the only lame comeback you can come up with I see.. they are basically talking about ANY religion that requires ppl to observe special days, Times, seasons, and years which just so happens to fit your religion. Little do you know Christ came to LIBERATE ppl from the bondage of religion. Not only him but many of the other saviour gods as well like Buddha or Krishna. It was the Roman Catholic church that corrupted his teachings to make it seem like he was religious wen in reality he came to free ppl from that bs.
    You lying serpent again post the whole scripture so everybody can see who paul was talking to. And christ came for one thing only and that was to redeem the lost sheep of israel. And lets not talking about krishna, I schooled you already on him

    Oh plz, u jus trying to act like its talking about anything else than what its clearly saying. It says observing days, months, and years puts you in BONDAGE.. if I was to give u the benefit of the doubt their description of bondage by being required to observe certain days still fits the description of your religion as well. Cuz don't yours require ppl to observe certain days? Well according to galatians, that's a form of BONDAGE. So your religion puts ppl into BONDAGE and Christ came to free ppl from religion.

    Ok...the observing of days and months people in bondage huh?

    Mat 26:19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.

    Jhn 13:1Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.


    So Yeshua observes Passover but, a set time, an annual observance AND theFeast of Unleavend bread but PAUL who wasnt even around him is a basis for your thesis? For real?

    Those set times cycles and seasons are called LAWS. Yeshua himself said:

    Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    The scripture still states what it states about being required to observe set days, times, months, and years being a form of bondage. so no matter how many other scriptures you search for it still says what it says. period.

    Romans 8:15
    For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

    Ignorant ass fool and heathen according to paul, if you is not a follower of Yah snd yahushua, you serve false gods, then your spirit is in bondage. Paul is writing to the romans, who are heathens why don't you post the whole scripts

    I am a follower of Yeshua and his Father and that't it. Yeshua never mentioned Yahweh as his father. And no nigga he was talking about OBSERVING DAYS, MONTHS, TIMES, AND YEARS puts you in bondage. did you read all of the scripture?

    You is confused and crazy as bat shit, you is not a follower of yahushua because yahushua observed the sabbath, passover, the ten commanhdments and all the laws of Yah in the old testament. Yahushua taught the torah, you is crazy
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  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    Thats the only lame comeback you can come up with I see.. they are basically talking about ANY religion that requires ppl to observe special days, Times, seasons, and years which just so happens to fit your religion. Little do you know Christ came to LIBERATE ppl from the bondage of religion. Not only him but many of the other saviour gods as well like Buddha or Krishna. It was the Roman Catholic church that corrupted his teachings to make it seem like he was religious wen in reality he came to free ppl from that bs.
    You lying serpent again post the whole scripture so everybody can see who paul was talking to. And christ came for one thing only and that was to redeem the lost sheep of israel. And lets not talking about krishna, I schooled you already on him

    Oh plz, u jus trying to act like its talking about anything else than what its clearly saying. It says observing days, months, and years puts you in BONDAGE.. if I was to give u the benefit of the doubt their description of bondage by being required to observe certain days still fits the description of your religion as well. Cuz don't yours require ppl to observe certain days? Well according to galatians, that's a form of BONDAGE. So your religion puts ppl into BONDAGE and Christ came to free ppl from religion.

    Ok...the observing of days and months people in bondage huh?

    Mat 26:19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.

    Jhn 13:1Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.


    So Yeshua observes Passover but, a set time, an annual observance AND theFeast of Unleavend bread but PAUL who wasnt even around him is a basis for your thesis? For real?

    Those set times cycles and seasons are called LAWS. Yeshua himself said:

    Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    The scripture still states what it states about being required to observe set days, times, months, and years being a form of bondage. so no matter how many other scriptures you search for it still says what it says. period.

    Romans 8:15
    For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

    Ignorant ass fool and heathen according to paul, if you is not a follower of Yah snd yahushua, you serve false gods, then your spirit is in bondage. Paul is writing to the romans, who are heathens why don't you post the whole scripts

    I am a follower of Yeshua and his Father and that't it. Yeshua never mentioned Yahweh as his father. And no nigga he was talking about OBSERVING DAYS, MONTHS, TIMES, AND YEARS puts you in bondage. did you read all of the scripture?

    You is confused and crazy as bat shit, you is not a follower of yahushua because yahushua observed the sabbath, passover, the ten commanhdments and all the laws of Yah in the old testament. Yahushua taught the torah, you is crazy


    Yeshua observed the sabbath according to the KJV Roman Bible, which is a book I do not put any trust in. Yahweh is a demiurge in Gnostic scripture.

    That damn Roman KJV Bible is a corrupted text pushed on the masses through Inquisitions and Crusades by the Roman Catholic Church.. They killed off all the original Gnostic Christians and burnt their scripture to replace it with that poison bs we have nowadays so that ppl will worship Yahweh.
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  • waterproofwaterproof Posts: 7,045
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    Thats the only lame comeback you can come up with I see.. they are basically talking about ANY religion that requires ppl to observe special days, Times, seasons, and years which just so happens to fit your religion. Little do you know Christ came to LIBERATE ppl from the bondage of religion. Not only him but many of the other saviour gods as well like Buddha or Krishna. It was the Roman Catholic church that corrupted his teachings to make it seem like he was religious wen in reality he came to free ppl from that bs.
    You lying serpent again post the whole scripture so everybody can see who paul was talking to. And christ came for one thing only and that was to redeem the lost sheep of israel. And lets not talking about krishna, I schooled you already on him

    Oh plz, u jus trying to act like its talking about anything else than what its clearly saying. It says observing days, months, and years puts you in BONDAGE.. if I was to give u the benefit of the doubt their description of bondage by being required to observe certain days still fits the description of your religion as well. Cuz don't yours require ppl to observe certain days? Well according to galatians, that's a form of BONDAGE. So your religion puts ppl into BONDAGE and Christ came to free ppl from religion.

    Ok...the observing of days and months people in bondage huh?

    Mat 26:19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.

    Jhn 13:1Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.


    So Yeshua observes Passover but, a set time, an annual observance AND theFeast of Unleavend bread but PAUL who wasnt even around him is a basis for your thesis? For real?

    Those set times cycles and seasons are called LAWS. Yeshua himself said:

    Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    The scripture still states what it states about being required to observe set days, times, months, and years being a form of bondage. so no matter how many other scriptures you search for it still says what it says. period.
    hat
    Romans 8:15
    For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

    So you are saying that paul word is over Yahushua, you still got that pauline doctrine greek influence heathen spirit in you, only a matter of time before your true self comes out, I exposed you before


    So by saying that Paul is a false prophet or his words don't matter means you are also admitting that the KJV Bible cannot be trusted in it's entirety. And yeah that scripture is good. Who want's to be in bondage to religion? Christ came to set us FREE from that lol
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  • waterproofwaterproof Posts: 7,045
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    Thats the only lame comeback you can come up with I see.. they are basically talking about ANY religion that requires ppl to observe special days, Times, seasons, and years which just so happens to fit your religion. Little do you know Christ came to LIBERATE ppl from the bondage of religion. Not only him but many of the other saviour gods as well like Buddha or Krishna. It was the Roman Catholic church that corrupted his teachings to make it seem like he was religious wen in reality he came to free ppl from that bs.
    You lying serpent again post the whole scripture so everybody can see who paul was talking to. And christ came for one thing only and that was to redeem the lost sheep of israel. And lets not talking about krishna, I schooled you already on him

    Oh plz, u jus trying to act like its talking about anything else than what its clearly saying. It says observing days, months, and years puts you in BONDAGE.. if I was to give u the benefit of the doubt their description of bondage by being required to observe certain days still fits the description of your religion as well. Cuz don't yours require ppl to observe certain days? Well according to galatians, that's a form of BONDAGE. So your religion puts ppl into BONDAGE and Christ came to free ppl from religion.

    Ok...the observing of days and months people in bondage huh?

    Mat 26:19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.

    Jhn 13:1Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.


    So Yeshua observes Passover but, a set time, an annual observance AND theFeast of Unleavend bread but PAUL who wasnt even around him is a basis for your thesis? For real?

    Those set times cycles and seasons are called LAWS. Yeshua himself said:

    Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    The scripture still states what it states about being required to observe set days, times, months, and years being a form of bondage. so no matter how many other scriptures you search for it still says what it says. period.

    Romans 8:15
    For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

    Ignorant ass fool and heathen according to paul, if you is not a follower of Yah snd yahushua, you serve false gods, then your spirit is in bondage. Paul is writing to the romans, who are heathens why don't you post the whole scripts

    I am a follower of Yeshua and his Father and that't it. Yeshua never mentioned Yahweh as his father. And no nigga he was talking about OBSERVING DAYS, MONTHS, TIMES, AND YEARS puts you in bondage. did you read all of the scripture?

    You is confused and crazy as bat shit, you is not a follower of yahushua because yahushua observed the sabbath, passover, the ten commanhdments and all the laws of Yah in the old testament. Yahushua taught the torah, you is crazy


    Yeshua observed the sabbath according to the KJV Roman Bible, which is a book I do not put any trust in. Yahweh is a demiurge in Gnostic scripture.

    That damn Roman KJV Bible is a corrupted text pushed on the masses through Inquisitions and Crusades by the Roman Catholic Church.. They killed off all the original Gnostic Christians and burnt their scripture to replace it with that poison bs we have nowadays so that ppl wilworship Yahweh.
    you is crazy there's hebrews right now with hebrew scripture still in its original form
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  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    Thats the only lame comeback you can come up with I see.. they are basically talking about ANY religion that requires ppl to observe special days, Times, seasons, and years which just so happens to fit your religion. Little do you know Christ came to LIBERATE ppl from the bondage of religion. Not only him but many of the other saviour gods as well like Buddha or Krishna. It was the Roman Catholic church that corrupted his teachings to make it seem like he was religious wen in reality he came to free ppl from that bs.
    You lying serpent again post the whole scripture so everybody can see who paul was talking to. And christ came for one thing only and that was to redeem the lost sheep of israel. And lets not talking about krishna, I schooled you already on him

    Oh plz, u jus trying to act like its talking about anything else than what its clearly saying. It says observing days, months, and years puts you in BONDAGE.. if I was to give u the benefit of the doubt their description of bondage by being required to observe certain days still fits the description of your religion as well. Cuz don't yours require ppl to observe certain days? Well according to galatians, that's a form of BONDAGE. So your religion puts ppl into BONDAGE and Christ came to free ppl from religion.

    Ok...the observing of days and months people in bondage huh?

    Mat 26:19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.

    Jhn 13:1Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.


    So Yeshua observes Passover but, a set time, an annual observance AND theFeast of Unleavend bread but PAUL who wasnt even around him is a basis for your thesis? For real?

    Those set times cycles and seasons are called LAWS. Yeshua himself said:

    Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    The scripture still states what it states about being required to observe set days, times, months, and years being a form of bondage. so no matter how many other scriptures you search for it still says what it says. period.

    Romans 8:15
    For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

    Ignorant ass fool and heathen according to paul, if you is not a follower of Yah snd yahushua, you serve false gods, then your spirit is in bondage. Paul is writing to the romans, who are heathens why don't you post the whole scripts

    I am a follower of Yeshua and his Father and that't it. Yeshua never mentioned Yahweh as his father. And no nigga he was talking about OBSERVING DAYS, MONTHS, TIMES, AND YEARS puts you in bondage. did you read all of the scripture?

    You is confused and crazy as bat shit, you is not a follower of yahushua because yahushua observed the sabbath, passover, the ten commanhdments and all the laws of Yah in the old testament. Yahushua taught the torah, you is crazy


    Yeshua observed the sabbath according to the KJV Roman Bible, which is a book I do not put any trust in. Yahweh is a demiurge in Gnostic scripture.

    That damn Roman KJV Bible is a corrupted text pushed on the masses through Inquisitions and Crusades by the Roman Catholic Church.. They killed off all the original Gnostic Christians and burnt their scripture to replace it with that poison bs we have nowadays so that ppl wilworship Yahweh.
    you is crazy there's hebrews right now with hebrew scripture still in its original form

    yeah a bunch of ignorant Hebrews that have been indoctrinated like you into that bs ass religion. Y'all don't like to research beyond that crazy ass Hebrew Knowledge but sit there and worship some god that plans on killing your ppl all the time. And they have nothing original. If they had original scriptures they would know about the gnostic scritpures which ppl in Ethopia and other parts of Africa do know about still.
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  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    Bobby Hemmitt says Yaldabaoth aka Yahweh is a devil and a demon.

    http://www.rbgtube.com/play.php?vid=5057


    ^^ click link above for video.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5435325901850415313

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  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    The Gnostic Christian view of Yahweh

    In the early Christianity there were two mainstreams: the Paulinian and the Gnostic Christians.

    Saul had pursued Christians until he converted and became Paul. The year of his conversion is estimated to be between 33 and 35. The Paulinian Christianity began to develop only after that. Who were the Christians that Paul pursued? They will especially have been the so called Christian Jews. This concept refers to groups among the earliest Christianity, to which belonged Jews who still adhered to Jewish customs - like Jesus and his disciples themselves.

    Out of these Christian Jews arose the movement of the Gnostic Christians. Because of his views, Paul cam into a conflict with this original Christianity [5].

    Hence the Paulinian Christianity didn’t arise out of the original Christianity, and with Paul, who hadn’t known Jesus himself, an obviously modified Christianity began, that distanced itself from the Christianity close to Jesus that was in the beginning. For the Gnostics, the creator of this world wasn’t the true prime creator, but a demiurg, a “craftsman”, a fallen angel, who also has an evil side.

    While the real God, the true prime creator (who Jesus calls 4 “father”) is unrestrictedly good, an imperfect demiurg created an imperfect world.

    It has been shown that the Gnostics identified this imperfect demiurg-“god” with the god of the Old Testament, who they also called Yaldabaoth, who wants to keep humans in a state of ignorance in a material world and who punishes their attempts to achieve knowledge and insight (to “eat from the tree of knowledge”).

    The demiurg is a lesser god who wants to be the only one [6].

    The text The Apokryphon of John (or The Secret Book of John) states:
    “He is impious in his madness, she who dwells in him. For he said, ‘I am God and no other god exists except me’, since he is ignorant of the place from which his strength had come” [7].
    (Cf. Ex 20:23 and Deut 5:7)
    Could this be the explanation of all the abominable cruelties, which after all are literally described in the Old Testament (see below)?

    A similar view was expressed by Marcion (approx. 85-160) [8], the first theologian who made a difference between the God of Love in the New Testament and an evil god of the Old Testament.
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  • waterproofwaterproof Posts: 7,045
    beenwize wrote: »
    The Gnostic Christian view of Yahweh

    In the early Christianity there were two mainstreams: the Paulinian and the Gnostic Christians.

    Saul had pursued Christians until he converted and became Paul. The year of his conversion is estimated to be between 33 and 35. The Paulinian Christianity began to develop only after that. Who were the Christians that Paul pursued? They will especially have been the so called Christian Jews. This concept refers to groups among the earliest Christianity, to which belonged Jews who still adhered to Jewish customs - like Jesus and his disciples themselves.

    Out of these Christian Jews arose the movement of the Gnostic Christians. Because of his views, Paul cam into a conflict with this original Christianity [5].

    Hence the Paulinian Christianity didn’t arise out of the original Christianity, and with Paul, who hadn’t known Jesus himself, an obviously modified Christianity began, that distanced itself from the Christianity close to Jesus that was in the beginning. For the Gnostics, the creator of this world wasn’t the true prime creator, but a demiurg, a “craftsman”, a fallen angel, who also has an evil side.

    While the real God, the true prime creator (who Jesus calls 4 “father”) is unrestrictedly good, an imperfect demiurg created an imperfect world.

    It has been shown that the Gnostics identified this imperfect demiurg-“god” with the god of the Old Testament, who they also called Yaldabaoth, who wants to keep humans in a state of ignorance in a material world and who punishes their attempts to achieve knowledge and insight (to “eat from the tree of knowledge”).

    The demiurg is a lesser god who wants to be the only one [6].

    The text The Apokryphon of John (or The Secret Book of John) states:
    “He is impious in his madness, she who dwells in him. For he said, ‘I am God and no other god exists except me’, since he is ignorant of the place from which his strength had come” [7].
    (Cf. Ex 20:23 and Deut 5:7)
    Could this be the explanation of all the abominable cruelties, which after all are literally described in the Old Testament (see below)?

    A similar view was expressed by Marcion (approx. 85-160) [8], the first theologian who made a difference between the God of Love in the New Testament and an evil god of the Old Testament.

    Lol.......... I know u aint that stupid... U just post why christ followers didn't trust shaul and how shaul and his hellenistic doctrine was influence by those who was heathens, shaul went from the original teachings of christ. You done stuck ur hand into shit. Yah is making you look stupid, and you post this article.. Ol stupid smart guy. For deeper understanding lurkers read my gnostic thread
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  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    The Gnostic Christian view of Yahweh

    In the early Christianity there were two mainstreams: the Paulinian and the Gnostic Christians.

    Saul had pursued Christians until he converted and became Paul. The year of his conversion is estimated to be between 33 and 35. The Paulinian Christianity began to develop only after that. Who were the Christians that Paul pursued? They will especially have been the so called Christian Jews. This concept refers to groups among the earliest Christianity, to which belonged Jews who still adhered to Jewish customs - like Jesus and his disciples themselves.

    Out of these Christian Jews arose the movement of the Gnostic Christians. Because of his views, Paul cam into a conflict with this original Christianity [5].

    Hence the Paulinian Christianity didn’t arise out of the original Christianity, and with Paul, who hadn’t known Jesus himself, an obviously modified Christianity began, that distanced itself from the Christianity close to Jesus that was in the beginning. For the Gnostics, the creator of this world wasn’t the true prime creator, but a demiurg, a “craftsman”, a fallen angel, who also has an evil side.

    While the real God, the true prime creator (who Jesus calls 4 “father”) is unrestrictedly good, an imperfect demiurg created an imperfect world.

    It has been shown that the Gnostics identified this imperfect demiurg-“god” with the god of the Old Testament, who they also called Yaldabaoth, who wants to keep humans in a state of ignorance in a material world and who punishes their attempts to achieve knowledge and insight (to “eat from the tree of knowledge”).

    The demiurg is a lesser god who wants to be the only one [6].

    The text The Apokryphon of John (or The Secret Book of John) states:
    “He is impious in his madness, she who dwells in him. For he said, ‘I am God and no other god exists except me’, since he is ignorant of the place from which his strength had come” [7].
    (Cf. Ex 20:23 and Deut 5:7)
    Could this be the explanation of all the abominable cruelties, which after all are literally described in the Old Testament (see below)?

    A similar view was expressed by Marcion (approx. 85-160) [8], the first theologian who made a difference between the God of Love in the New Testament and an evil god of the Old Testament.

    Lol.......... I know u aint that stupid... U just post why christ followers didn't trust shaul and how shaul and his hellenistic doctrine was influence by those who was heathens, shaul went from the original teachings of christ. You done stuck ur hand into shit. Yah is making you look stupid, and you post this article.. Ol stupid smart guy. For deeper understanding lurkers read my gnostic thread

    The reason I posted this article was to show your ignorant ass that the first Christians were Gnostics. I don't give a damn about Wat they said about Paul. This article further validates Gnosticism and refutes your kjv old testament religion.
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  • waterproofwaterproof Posts: 7,045
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    The Gnostic Christian view of Yahweh

    In the early Christianity there were two mainstreams: the Paulinian and the Gnostic Christians.

    Saul had pursued Christians until he converted and became Paul. The year of his conversion is estimated to be between 33 and 35. The Paulinian Christianity began to develop only after that. Who were the Christians that Paul pursued? They will especially have been the so called Christian Jews. This concept refers to groups among the earliest Christianity, to which belonged Jews who still adhered to Jewish customs - like Jesus and his disciples themselves.

    Out of these Christian Jews arose the movement of the Gnostic Christians. Because of his views, Paul cam into a conflict with this original Christianity [5].

    Hence the Paulinian Christianity didn’t arise out of the original Christianity, and with Paul, who hadn’t known Jesus himself, an obviously modified Christianity began, that distanced itself from the Christianity close to Jesus that was in the beginning. For the Gnostics, the creator of this world wasn’t the true prime creator, but a demiurg, a “craftsman”, a fallen angel, who also has an evil side.

    While the real God, the true prime creator (who Jesus calls 4 “father”) is unrestrictedly good, an imperfect demiurg created an imperfect world.

    It has been shown that the Gnostics identified this imperfect demiurg-“god” with the god of the Old Testament, who they also called Yaldabaoth, who wants to keep humans in a state of ignorance in a material world and who punishes their attempts to achieve knowledge and insight (to “eat from the tree of knowledge”).

    The demiurg is a lesser god who wants to be the only one [6].

    The text The Apokryphon of John (or The Secret Book of John) states:
    “He is impious in his madness, she who dwells in him. For he said, ‘I am God and no other god exists except me’, since he is ignorant of the place from which his strength had come” [7].
    (Cf. Ex 20:23 and Deut 5:7)
    Could this be the explanation of all the abominable cruelties, which after all are literally described in the Old Testament (see below)?

    A similar view was expressed by Marcion (approx. 85-160) [8], the first theologian who made a difference between the God of Love in the New Testament and an evil god of the Old Testament.

    Lol.......... I know u aint that stupid... U just post why christ followers didn't trust shaul and how shaul and his hellenistic doctrine was influence by those who was heathens, shaul went from the original teachings of christ. You done stuck ur hand into shit. Yah is making you look stupid, and you post this article.. Ol stupid smart guy. For deeper understanding lurkers read my gnostic thread

    The reason I posted this article was to show your ignorant ass that the first Christians were Gnostics. I don't give a damn about Wat they said about Paul. This article further validates Gnosticism and refutes your kjv old testament religion.

    You silly ass, goofy ass silly wabbit...lol the article say no such thin g, you lair with a hellenistic spirit, the article states with your non reading ass that gnostic christians came from the hebrew christ followers who are known ass the disciples, ebonites and the essenes. Meaning what I said is right, that the gnostic christians are hebrews that was influence by the hellenist pagans
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  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    The Gnostic Christian view of Yahweh

    In the early Christianity there were two mainstreams: the Paulinian and the Gnostic Christians.

    Saul had pursued Christians until he converted and became Paul. The year of his conversion is estimated to be between 33 and 35. The Paulinian Christianity began to develop only after that. Who were the Christians that Paul pursued? They will especially have been the so called Christian Jews. This concept refers to groups among the earliest Christianity, to which belonged Jews who still adhered to Jewish customs - like Jesus and his disciples themselves.

    Out of these Christian Jews arose the movement of the Gnostic Christians. Because of his views, Paul cam into a conflict with this original Christianity [5].

    Hence the Paulinian Christianity didn’t arise out of the original Christianity, and with Paul, who hadn’t known Jesus himself, an obviously modified Christianity began, that distanced itself from the Christianity close to Jesus that was in the beginning. For the Gnostics, the creator of this world wasn’t the true prime creator, but a demiurg, a “craftsman”, a fallen angel, who also has an evil side.

    While the real God, the true prime creator (who Jesus calls 4 “father”) is unrestrictedly good, an imperfect demiurg created an imperfect world.

    It has been shown that the Gnostics identified this imperfect demiurg-“god” with the god of the Old Testament, who they also called Yaldabaoth, who wants to keep humans in a state of ignorance in a material world and who punishes their attempts to achieve knowledge and insight (to “eat from the tree of knowledge”).

    The demiurg is a lesser god who wants to be the only one [6].

    The text The Apokryphon of John (or The Secret Book of John) states:
    “He is impious in his madness, she who dwells in him. For he said, ‘I am God and no other god exists except me’, since he is ignorant of the place from which his strength had come” [7].
    (Cf. Ex 20:23 and Deut 5:7)
    Could this be the explanation of all the abominable cruelties, which after all are literally described in the Old Testament (see below)?

    A similar view was expressed by Marcion (approx. 85-160) [8], the first theologian who made a difference between the God of Love in the New Testament and an evil god of the Old Testament.

    Lol.......... I know u aint that stupid... U just post why christ followers didn't trust shaul and how shaul and his hellenistic doctrine was influence by those who was heathens, shaul went from the original teachings of christ. You done stuck ur hand into shit. Yah is making you look stupid, and you post this article.. Ol stupid smart guy. For deeper understanding lurkers read my gnostic thread

    The reason I posted this article was to show your ignorant ass that the first Christians were Gnostics. I don't give a damn about Wat they said about Paul. This article further validates Gnosticism and refutes your kjv old testament religion.

    You silly ass, goofy ass silly wabbit...lol the article say no such thin g, you lair with a hellenistic spirit, the article states with your non reading ass that gnostic christians came from the hebrew christ followers who are known ass the disciples, ebonites and the essenes. Meaning what I said is right, that the gnostic christians are hebrews that was influence by the hellenist pagans

    Dude the fact that you believe and say Paul is a false prophet of whom wrote at least half of the New Testament means that your Roman KJV cannot be trusted and is not the word of the true Creator. You can't take out 1 man out of the New Testament and still believe all the rest is truth. You are in delusion and enslaved by a book and don't know jack shyt about earth history or ancient civilization history. You are a slave minded religious nut who thinks you will be rewarded for worshipping some god that continues to kill ppl according to that Bible. What type of entity would set up an evil world just to get ppl to worship him? doesnt sound like the good all loving god to me of whom Jesus spoke of.
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  • waterproofwaterproof Posts: 7,045
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    The Gnostic Christian view of Yahweh

    In the early Christianity there were two mainstreams: the Paulinian and the Gnostic Christians.

    Saul had pursued Christians until he converted and became Paul. The year of his conversion is estimated to be between 33 and 35. The Paulinian Christianity began to develop only after that. Who were the Christians that Paul pursued? They will especially have been the so called Christian Jews. This concept refers to groups among the earliest Christianity, to which belonged Jews who still adhered to Jewish customs - like Jesus and his disciples themselves.

    Out of these Christian Jews arose the movement of the Gnostic Christians. Because of his views, Paul cam into a conflict with this original Christianity [5].

    Hence the Paulinian Christianity didn’t arise out of the original Christianity, and with Paul, who hadn’t known Jesus himself, an obviously modified Christianity began, that distanced itself from the Christianity close to Jesus that was in the beginning. For the Gnostics, the creator of this world wasn’t the true prime creator, but a demiurg, a “craftsman”, a fallen angel, who also has an evil side.

    While the real God, the true prime creator (who Jesus calls 4 “father”) is unrestrictedly good, an imperfect demiurg created an imperfect world.

    It has been shown that the Gnostics identified this imperfect demiurg-“god” with the god of the Old Testament, who they also called Yaldabaoth, who wants to keep humans in a state of ignorance in a material world and who punishes their attempts to achieve knowledge and insight (to “eat from the tree of knowledge”).

    The demiurg is a lesser god who wants to be the only one [6].

    The text The Apokryphon of John (or The Secret Book of John) states:
    “He is impious in his madness, she who dwells in him. For he said, ‘I am God and no other god exists except me’, since he is ignorant of the place from which his strength had come” [7].
    (Cf. Ex 20:23 and Deut 5:7)
    Could this be the explanation of all the abominable cruelties, which after all are literally described in the Old Testament (see below)?

    A similar view was expressed by Marcion (approx. 85-160) [8], the first theologian who made a difference between the God of Love in the New Testament and an evil god of the Old Testament.

    Lol.......... I know u aint that stupid... U just post why christ followers didn't trust shaul and how shaul and his hellenistic doctrine was influence by those who was heathens, shaul went from the original teachings of christ. You done stuck ur hand into shit. Yah is making you look stupid, and you post this article.. Ol stupid smart guy. For deeper understanding lurkers read my gnostic thread

    The reason I posted this article was to show your ignorant ass that the first Christians were Gnostics. I don't give a damn about Wat they said about Paul. This article further validates Gnosticism and refutes your kjv old testament religion.

    You silly ass, goofy ass silly wabbit...lol the article say no such thin g, you lair with a hellenistic spirit, the article states with your non reading ass that gnostic christians came from the hebrew christ followers who are known ass the disciples, ebonites and the essenes. Meaning what I said is right, that the gnostic christians are hebrews that was influence by the hellenist pagans

    Dude the fact that you believe and say Paul is a false prophet of whom wrote at least half of the New Testament means that your Roman KJV cannot be trusted and is not the word of the true Creator. You can't take out 1 man out of the New Testament and still believe all the rest is truth. You are in delusion and enslaved by a book and don't know jack shyt about earth history or ancient civilization history. You are a slave minded religious nut who thinks you will be rewarded for worshipping some god that continues to kill ppl according to that Bible. What type of entity would set up an evil world just to get ppl to worship him? doesnt sound like the good all loving god to me of whom Jesus spoke of.

    You silly ass fool how can Paul be a false prophet when Paul ain't a prophet. Paul is a self appointed apostle there's a reason why his letters was entered.
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  • judahxulujudahxulu Posts: 2,959
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    hmmm maybe this has something to do with the two creations of Genesis? Lol

    Revelation 12:9
    And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.




    Genesis 3:22
    And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:



    ^ Lord God says man has become like one of US? Who was Lord God standing in the garden of eden with? Lol

    You do know that angels and celestial beings have knowledge of good and evil. Simple ass people


    According to the Gnostic gospels it was Yaltdabaoth along with his demonic angels in the garden of eden with them. Tell me what type of benefit is not having knowledge of good or evil going to serve? Picture a human race with no knowledge of good or evil for a min and tell me what that would be like. It would be like humans walking around like drones. So why was Lord God so fearful of humans gaining knowledge of good and evil? Was it becuz Adam & Eve would know something was not right about the being they were dealing with? Lol

    And why did Adam & Eve not die the same day they ate the fruit like Lord God had said to them? Instead they lived for hundreds of years afterwards.
    beenwize wrote: »
    Thats the only lame comeback you can come up with I see.. they are basically talking about ANY religion that requires ppl to observe special days, Times, seasons, and years which just so happens to fit your religion. Little do you know Christ came to LIBERATE ppl from the bondage of religion. Not only him but many of the other saviour gods as well like Buddha or Krishna. It was the Roman Catholic church that corrupted his teachings to make it seem like he was religious wen in reality he came to free ppl from that bs.

    Lame comeback? Nigga you lame as sheep shit. There are no facts in your post AT ALL. You are a troll. I'm starting to think all you dudes coming at Israelites online are seriously part of some sort of agency. Ive really debated with people over the same stuff before but no one has been quite as stupid and GROSSLY fallacious EVERY DAMN RESPONSE. On top of that you cats have the same patterns. Its either that or you been influenced by one and dont know it. Its getting to the point where I cant even dignify your retardation with a fact-based referenced response, because you dont even fucking bother lol. I see you nigga. Your a joke.
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  • judahxulujudahxulu Posts: 2,959
    Man, waterproof, that muthafuckas on some other shit. It dont matter what you say or what proof you show he's just going to ignore it and keep throwing more shit out there to respond to. Let the fool do what he want. I just realized yesterday how stupid it is arguing with a muthafucka arrogant enough to think he can make definitive statements about the bible and cant even read the original languages to decipher it.

    Waterproof...beenwize is a fucking troll. You aint noticed how its a consistent stream of muthafuckas standing against Hebraic science, with the SAME ass techniques of semantics and manipulative speech. I mean the SAME ass patterns, ahk. These niggas dont even be having a platform worthy of even contesting but they pull us in by saying extra general bullshit thats shocking.

    The whole premise of this shit is stupid.
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  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    The Gnostic Christian view of Yahweh

    In the early Christianity there were two mainstreams: the Paulinian and the Gnostic Christians.

    Saul had pursued Christians until he converted and became Paul. The year of his conversion is estimated to be between 33 and 35. The Paulinian Christianity began to develop only after that. Who were the Christians that Paul pursued? They will especially have been the so called Christian Jews. This concept refers to groups among the earliest Christianity, to which belonged Jews who still adhered to Jewish customs - like Jesus and his disciples themselves.

    Out of these Christian Jews arose the movement of the Gnostic Christians. Because of his views, Paul cam into a conflict with this original Christianity [5].

    Hence the Paulinian Christianity didn’t arise out of the original Christianity, and with Paul, who hadn’t known Jesus himself, an obviously modified Christianity began, that distanced itself from the Christianity close to Jesus that was in the beginning. For the Gnostics, the creator of this world wasn’t the true prime creator, but a demiurg, a “craftsman”, a fallen angel, who also has an evil side.

    While the real God, the true prime creator (who Jesus calls 4 “father”) is unrestrictedly good, an imperfect demiurg created an imperfect world.

    It has been shown that the Gnostics identified this imperfect demiurg-“god” with the god of the Old Testament, who they also called Yaldabaoth, who wants to keep humans in a state of ignorance in a material world and who punishes their attempts to achieve knowledge and insight (to “eat from the tree of knowledge”).

    The demiurg is a lesser god who wants to be the only one [6].

    The text The Apokryphon of John (or The Secret Book of John) states:
    “He is impious in his madness, she who dwells in him. For he said, ‘I am God and no other god exists except me’, since he is ignorant of the place from which his strength had come” [7].
    (Cf. Ex 20:23 and Deut 5:7)
    Could this be the explanation of all the abominable cruelties, which after all are literally described in the Old Testament (see below)?

    A similar view was expressed by Marcion (approx. 85-160) [8], the first theologian who made a difference between the God of Love in the New Testament and an evil god of the Old Testament.

    Lol.......... I know u aint that stupid... U just post why christ followers didn't trust shaul and how shaul and his hellenistic doctrine was influence by those who was heathens, shaul went from the original teachings of christ. You done stuck ur hand into shit. Yah is making you look stupid, and you post this article.. Ol stupid smart guy. For deeper understanding lurkers read my gnostic thread

    The reason I posted this article was to show your ignorant ass that the first Christians were Gnostics. I don't give a damn about Wat they said about Paul. This article further validates Gnosticism and refutes your kjv old testament religion.

    You silly ass, goofy ass silly wabbit...lol the article say no such thin g, you lair with a hellenistic spirit, the article states with your non reading ass that gnostic christians came from the hebrew christ followers who are known ass the disciples, ebonites and the essenes. Meaning what I said is right, that the gnostic christians are hebrews that was influence by the hellenist pagans

    Dude the fact that you believe and say Paul is a false prophet of whom wrote at least half of the New Testament means that your Roman KJV cannot be trusted and is not the word of the true Creator. You can't take out 1 man out of the New Testament and still believe all the rest is truth. You are in delusion and enslaved by a book and don't know jack shyt about earth history or ancient civilization history. You are a slave minded religious nut who thinks you will be rewarded for worshipping some god that continues to kill ppl according to that Bible. What type of entity would set up an evil world just to get ppl to worship him? doesnt sound like the good all loving god to me of whom Jesus spoke of.

    You silly ass fool how can Paul be a false prophet when Paul ain't a prophet. Paul is a self appointed apostle there's a reason why his letters was entered.

    It doesn't matter if you call him a prophet or an Apostle the same thing I said still applies. If 1 man is not of the truth in the KJV Bible then how can anyone trust the rest dummy?
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  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
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    hmmm maybe this has something to do with the two creations of Genesis? Lol

    Revelation 12:9
    And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.




    Genesis 3:22
    And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:



    ^ Lord God says man has become like one of US? Who was Lord God standing in the garden of eden with? Lol

    You do know that angels and celestial beings have knowledge of good and evil. Simple ass people


    According to the Gnostic gospels it was Yaltdabaoth along with his demonic angels in the garden of eden with them. Tell me what type of benefit is not having knowledge of good or evil going to serve? Picture a human race with no knowledge of good or evil for a min and tell me what that would be like. It would be like humans walking around like drones. So why was Lord God so fearful of humans gaining knowledge of good and evil? Was it becuz Adam & Eve would know something was not right about the being they were dealing with? Lol

    And why did Adam & Eve not die the same day they ate the fruit like Lord God had said to them? Instead they lived for hundreds of years afterwards.
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    Thats the only lame comeback you can come up with I see.. they are basically talking about ANY religion that requires ppl to observe special days, Times, seasons, and years which just so happens to fit your religion. Little do you know Christ came to LIBERATE ppl from the bondage of religion. Not only him but many of the other saviour gods as well like Buddha or Krishna. It was the Roman Catholic church that corrupted his teachings to make it seem like he was religious wen in reality he came to free ppl from that bs.

    Lame comeback? Nigga you lame as sheep shit. There are no facts in your post AT ALL. You are a troll. I'm starting to think all you dudes coming at Israelites online are seriously part of some sort of agency. Ive really debated with people over the same stuff before but no one has been quite as stupid and GROSSLY fallacious EVERY DAMN RESPONSE. On top of that you cats have the same patterns. Its either that or you been influenced by one and dont know it. Its getting to the point where I cant even dignify your retardation with a fact-based referenced response, because you dont even fucking bother lol. I see you nigga. Your a joke.

    Oh shut your stupid Yaldabaoth worshipping ass up. You worship some entity not out of love but out of fear of him killing your dumb ass. You non spiritual enslaved mind ass dummy. You got yo ass sonned on more serious platforms now you come to a sub forum of a hip hop website like you know something. Nigga shut up yo ass said the Quran and the Bible were one in the same. Lol you are the joke big time fool.
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  • judahxulujudahxulu Posts: 2,959
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    hmmm maybe this has something to do with the two creations of Genesis? Lol

    Revelation 12:9
    And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.




    Genesis 3:22
    And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:



    ^ Lord God says man has become like one of US? Who was Lord God standing in the garden of eden with? Lol

    You do know that angels and celestial beings have knowledge of good and evil. Simple ass people


    According to the Gnostic gospels it was Yaltdabaoth along with his demonic angels in the garden of eden with them. Tell me what type of benefit is not having knowledge of good or evil going to serve? Picture a human race with no knowledge of good or evil for a min and tell me what that would be like. It would be like humans walking around like drones. So why was Lord God so fearful of humans gaining knowledge of good and evil? Was it becuz Adam & Eve would know something was not right about the being they were dealing with? Lol

    And why did Adam & Eve not die the same day they ate the fruit like Lord God had said to them? Instead they lived for hundreds of years afterwards.
    beenwize wrote: »
    Thats the only lame comeback you can come up with I see.. they are basically talking about ANY religion that requires ppl to observe special days, Times, seasons, and years which just so happens to fit your religion. Little do you know Christ came to LIBERATE ppl from the bondage of religion. Not only him but many of the other saviour gods as well like Buddha or Krishna. It was the Roman Catholic church that corrupted his teachings to make it seem like he was religious wen in reality he came to free ppl from that bs.

    Lame comeback? Nigga you lame as sheep shit. There are no facts in your post AT ALL. You are a troll. I'm starting to think all you dudes coming at Israelites online are seriously part of some sort of agency. Ive really debated with people over the same stuff before but no one has been quite as stupid and GROSSLY fallacious EVERY DAMN RESPONSE. On top of that you cats have the same patterns. Its either that or you been influenced by one and dont know it. Its getting to the point where I cant even dignify your retardation with a fact-based referenced response, because you dont even fucking bother lol. I see you nigga. Your a joke.

    Oh shut your stupid Yaldabaoth worshipping ass up. You worship some entity not out of love but out of fear of him killing your dumb ass. You non spiritual enslaved mind ass dummy. You got yo ass sonned on more serious platforms now you come to a sub forum of a hip hop website like you know something. Nigga shut up yo ass said the Quran and the Bible were one in the same. Lol you are the joke big time fool.

    What more serious platfrom was I EVER sonned on? Speak on it specifically. And moreover, since when are Yahwah and Yaldaboath the same word? Because you and the Gnostics say they are? Nigga I got eyes. Look at all those extra letters.Read both names out loud. Nothing alike. Look at the Hebrew meanings. Not the same.

    So when and where did I get sonned on a more serious platform? Specifics please
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  • judahxulujudahxulu Posts: 2,959
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
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    The Gnostic Christian view of Yahweh

    In the early Christianity there were two mainstreams: the Paulinian and the Gnostic Christians.

    Saul had pursued Christians until he converted and became Paul. The year of his conversion is estimated to be between 33 and 35. The Paulinian Christianity began to develop only after that. Who were the Christians that Paul pursued? They will especially have been the so called Christian Jews. This concept refers to groups among the earliest Christianity, to which belonged Jews who still adhered to Jewish customs - like Jesus and his disciples themselves.

    Out of these Christian Jews arose the movement of the Gnostic Christians. Because of his views, Paul cam into a conflict with this original Christianity [5].

    Hence the Paulinian Christianity didn’t arise out of the original Christianity, and with Paul, who hadn’t known Jesus himself, an obviously modified Christianity began, that distanced itself from the Christianity close to Jesus that was in the beginning. For the Gnostics, the creator of this world wasn’t the true prime creator, but a demiurg, a “craftsman”, a fallen angel, who also has an evil side.

    While the real God, the true prime creator (who Jesus calls 4 “father”) is unrestrictedly good, an imperfect demiurg created an imperfect world.

    It has been shown that the Gnostics identified this imperfect demiurg-“god” with the god of the Old Testament, who they also called Yaldabaoth, who wants to keep humans in a state of ignorance in a material world and who punishes their attempts to achieve knowledge and insight (to “eat from the tree of knowledge”).

    The demiurg is a lesser god who wants to be the only one [6].

    The text The Apokryphon of John (or The Secret Book of John) states:
    “He is impious in his madness, she who dwells in him. For he said, ‘I am God and no other god exists except me’, since he is ignorant of the place from which his strength had come” [7].
    (Cf. Ex 20:23 and Deut 5:7)
    Could this be the explanation of all the abominable cruelties, which after all are literally described in the Old Testament (see below)?

    A similar view was expressed by Marcion (approx. 85-160) [8], the first theologian who made a difference between the God of Love in the New Testament and an evil god of the Old Testament.

    Lol.......... I know u aint that stupid... U just post why christ followers didn't trust shaul and how shaul and his hellenistic doctrine was influence by those who was heathens, shaul went from the original teachings of christ. You done stuck ur hand into shit. Yah is making you look stupid, and you post this article.. Ol stupid smart guy. For deeper understanding lurkers read my gnostic thread

    The reason I posted this article was to show your ignorant ass that the first Christians were Gnostics. I don't give a damn about Wat they said about Paul. This article further validates Gnosticism and refutes your kjv old testament religion.

    You silly ass, goofy ass silly wabbit...lol the article say no such thin g, you lair with a hellenistic spirit, the article states with your non reading ass that gnostic christians came from the hebrew christ followers who are known ass the disciples, ebonites and the essenes. Meaning what I said is right, that the gnostic christians are hebrews that was influence by the hellenist pagans

    Dude the fact that you believe and say Paul is a false prophet of whom wrote at least half of the New Testament means that your Roman KJV cannot be trusted and is not the word of the true Creator. You can't take out 1 man out of the New Testament and still believe all the rest is truth. You are in delusion and enslaved by a book and don't know jack shyt about earth history or ancient civilization history. You are a slave minded religious nut who thinks you will be rewarded for worshipping some god that continues to kill ppl according to that Bible. What type of entity would set up an evil world just to get ppl to worship him? doesnt sound like the good all loving god to me of whom Jesus spoke of.

    You silly ass fool how can Paul be a false prophet when Paul ain't a prophet. Paul is a self appointed apostle there's a reason why his letters was entered.

    It doesn't matter if you call him a prophet or an Apostle the same thing I said still applies. If 1 man is not of the truth in the KJV Bible then how can anyone trust the rest dummy?

    Because its a collection of books written by different authors, sometimes 3 0r 4 different ones per book, dummy. Beacuse they were never meant to be all put together like they were one continuous stream of thought, dummy. Because you can go back to the source texts and porperly identify whats real and what aint.....dummy.
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  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    dumbass Yaldabaoth demon worshippers.


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