Was Jesus referring to Yahweh/Jehovah or someone else???

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  • judahxulujudahxulu Posts: 2,959
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    The tanach is not a religious book. If you referring to the bible, nigga the new testament is part of that book which is once again some skitzo shit coming from your way.

    nigga please. i can tell you the truth till im blue in the face... all u gone do is keep saying weird untrue shit. nigga we dont even believe in no heaven or hell afterlife period. but hol up...nigga the only threats of hell ARE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT NIGGA. how far are you going to go with this little act?

    i dont have a religion just because you say i do fag. im ethnically a hebrew israelite delineated through the ashanti tribe of the akan region. youre a crazy ass retarded internet dude. go back to real life and continue NOT getting pussy which is more than likely the cause of all your spiritual struggles. either that or u aint getting hit in the butt by other sodomites like yourself enough for your taste

    I don't care that you don't believe in a heaven or hell... It's one recorded in the KJV Bible, so what religious book are you coming from? The New Testament is contained inside of the KJV Bible so again what religious book are you coming out of? And why would your god allow for a heaven and hell to be recorded in the KJV Bible if one is non existent?

    And if your god is in control of this world then why have more ppl been indoctrinated into the KJV Bible rather than the religious book you are coming out of? tell me the point of that nigga. what so ppl can be fucked up for being confused?

    And nigga that lost children of Israel is a metaphor for all blacks on earth. You take it as a literal to think you come from out of one man named Jacob who had a real brother called Esau which came out of the same parents. Lol
    Three reasons why reading is fundamental

    1.) King James had a team of translators translate the Greek Septuagint which was translated from the Latin Vulgate which was translated from a collection of different books in Hebrew, Aramaic and Koine Greek. Heaven and hell is in the KJV. Its not in the original Hebrew text. Im dumb but here in the information age where you have all kinds of hisorical and archaeological data literally at your fingertips youre suggesting that ANYTHINg in the multi-translated KJV is authoratative?

    2.) People are indoctrinated with falsehood because of bad choices men have made genration after generation. Were given free will nigga. The world is fucked up because of people like you who want to influence people and dont know what the fuck theyre talking about. Ego=satanism. Your understanding of even how the spiritual realm works on a basic level is so underdeveloped and cartoonish. I seriously think you are mentally challenged..

    3) Nigga when the term Israel was created ALL the people on earth were black or at least had color you idiot.The ancient world didnt even have the concept of "black" and "white" as races or ethnic types stupid. You dont even read the bible nigga lol. Not even in English. Fuck is wrong with you? A metaphor for all black people...lol. Pharoah was black..he wasnt Israel. Nimrod was black..Nebuchadnezzar was black etc,etc,etc. You have crazy peoples logic. Seriously, you need help bruh. No joke. Your mind is seriously fucked up.
  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    The tanach is not a religious book. If you referring to the bible, nigga the new testament is part of that book which is once again some skitzo shit coming from your way.

    nigga please. i can tell you the truth till im blue in the face... all u gone do is keep saying weird untrue shit. nigga we dont even believe in no heaven or hell afterlife period. but hol up...nigga the only threats of hell ARE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT NIGGA. how far are you going to go with this little act?

    i dont have a religion just because you say i do fag. im ethnically a hebrew israelite delineated through the ashanti tribe of the akan region. youre a crazy ass retarded internet dude. go back to real life and continue NOT getting pussy which is more than likely the cause of all your spiritual struggles. either that or u aint getting hit in the butt by other sodomites like yourself enough for your taste

    I don't care that you don't believe in a heaven or hell... It's one recorded in the KJV Bible, so what religious book are you coming from? The New Testament is contained inside of the KJV Bible so again what religious book are you coming out of? And why would your god allow for a heaven and hell to be recorded in the KJV Bible if one is non existent?

    And if your god is in control of this world then why have more ppl been indoctrinated into the KJV Bible rather than the religious book you are coming out of? tell me the point of that nigga. what so ppl can be fucked up for being confused?

    And nigga that lost children of Israel is a metaphor for all blacks on earth. You take it as a literal to think you come from out of one man named Jacob who had a real brother called Esau which came out of the same parents. Lol
    Three reasons why reading is fundamental

    1.) King James had a team of translators translate the Greek Septuagint which was translated from the Latin Vulgate which was translated from a collection of different books in Hebrew, Aramaic and Koine Greek. Heaven and hell is in the KJV. Its not in the original Hebrew text. Im dumb but here in the information age where you have all kinds of hisorical and archaeological data literally at your fingertips youre suggesting that ANYTHINg in the multi-translated KJV is authoratative?

    2.) People are indoctrinated with falsehood because of bad choices men have made genration after generation. Were given free will nigga. The world is fucked up because of people like you who want to influence people and dont know what the fuck theyre talking about. Ego=satanism. Your understanding of even how the spiritual realm works on a basic level is so underdeveloped and cartoonish. I seriously think you are mentally challenged..

    3) Nigga when the term Israel was created ALL the people on earth were black or at least had color you idiot.The ancient world didnt even have the concept of "black" and "white" as races or ethnic types stupid. You dont even read the bible nigga lol. Not even in English. Fuck is wrong with you? A metaphor for all black people...lol. Pharoah was black..he wasnt Israel. Nimrod was black..Nebuchadnezzar was black etc,etc,etc. You have crazy peoples logic. Seriously, you need help bruh. No joke. Your mind is seriously fucked up.

    This nonsense is not even worth responding to.

    1.) You say heaven and hell are in the KJV Bible but not the original Hebrew text. Did your god not know that ppl were going to be reading the KJV Bible and not some lost original hebrew text?

    2.) People are indoctrinated with falsehood because of bad choices? This sounds like a scapegoat to protect the wife beater. You can't possibly be speaking of ego when I see it all over that old testament. I have no large ego at all. And speaking on spiritual realm you are the one with no understanding of it in your Yaldabaoth religion. Your old testament don't even deal with the spiritual realm for the most part. And yes, you are the one mentally enslaved and challenged.

    You could not come up with a better answer to why the masses of the world are indoctrinated into the KJV Bible and not the religious book you read out of? Lol I see cuz none of your shyt come from a Creator but those looking to mentally enslave the dumb masses.

    3.) The term Israel is referring to all the different tribes of black Africans. You haven't even met most of the different type of Africans cuz I have and I realize that many of them are just the same as so called African Americans. You the type that like to stereotype and look at one type of African, usually the jungle type and say look see we are not African. Nigga plz with your crazy religious theories, you need to wake up out of delusion and come back to reality.
  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117

    And for the record no human being is our real enemy here. You need to look in your religious text to see who is the real instigator for all the division, hatred, and wars among the human family. It is the rulers of darkness as taught in the Gnostic gospels.


    “We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Ephesians 6:12)
  • judahxulujudahxulu Posts: 2,959
    beenwize wrote: »
    And for the record no human being is our real enemy here. You need to look in your religious text to see who is the real instigator for all the division, hatred, and wars among the human family. It is the rulers of darkness as taught in the Gnostic gospels.


    “We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Ephesians 6:12)

    Nigga please. Those spirits gotta manifest in flesh and blood. Paul aint a prophet. The niggas only authority is by credentials he made up himself. I have no religious book bitch. You just sound stupid. Im KNOWN for dropping post after post detailing exactly why the Tanach IS NOT a religious book. FOR YEARS NOW. Fucking troll.
  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    And for the record no human being is our real enemy here. You need to look in your religious text to see who is the real instigator for all the division, hatred, and wars among the human family. It is the rulers of darkness as taught in the Gnostic gospels.


    “We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Ephesians 6:12)

    Nigga please. Those spirits gotta manifest in flesh and blood. Paul aint a prophet. The niggas only authority is by credentials he made up himself. I have no religious book bitch. You just sound stupid. Im KNOWN for dropping post after post detailing exactly why the Tanach IS NOT a religious book. FOR YEARS NOW. Fucking troll.


    Nigga, them spirits are directing the course of humanity regardless you fool, and they exist for the most part in other realms, the damn archons and demiurge are the one behind all major religions that loves blood sacrifices and worship. And stfu about Paul when your all knowing god allowed him to be included in most modern day Bibles that have influenced ppl for hundreds of years. And I could give a fuck about you teaching about some Tanach on a hip hop website to a bunch of ingorant masses who most have not read a Bible to begin with. Lol, you continue to be a dumb joke and a religious nut thats mentally enslaved.
  • judahxulujudahxulu Posts: 2,959
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    The tanach is not a religious book. If you referring to the bible, nigga the new testament is part of that book which is once again some skitzo shit coming from your way.

    nigga please. i can tell you the truth till im blue in the face... all u gone do is keep saying weird untrue shit. nigga we dont even believe in no heaven or hell afterlife period. but hol up...nigga the only threats of hell ARE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT NIGGA. how far are you going to go with this little act?

    i dont have a religion just because you say i do fag. im ethnically a hebrew israelite delineated through the ashanti tribe of the akan region. youre a crazy ass retarded internet dude. go back to real life and continue NOT getting pussy which is more than likely the cause of all your spiritual struggles. either that or u aint getting hit in the butt by other sodomites like yourself enough for your taste

    I don't care that you don't believe in a heaven or hell... It's one recorded in the KJV Bible, so what religious book are you coming from? The New Testament is contained inside of the KJV Bible so again what religious book are you coming out of? And why would your god allow for a heaven and hell to be recorded in the KJV Bible if one is non existent?

    And if your god is in control of this world then why have more ppl been indoctrinated into the KJV Bible rather than the religious book you are coming out of? tell me the point of that nigga. what so ppl can be fucked up for being confused?

    And nigga that lost children of Israel is a metaphor for all blacks on earth. You take it as a literal to think you come from out of one man named Jacob who had a real brother called Esau which came out of the same parents. Lol
    Three reasons why reading is fundamental

    1.) King James had a team of translators translate the Greek Septuagint which was translated from the Latin Vulgate which was translated from a collection of different books in Hebrew, Aramaic and Koine Greek. Heaven and hell is in the KJV. Its not in the original Hebrew text. Im dumb but here in the information age where you have all kinds of hisorical and archaeological data literally at your fingertips youre suggesting that ANYTHINg in the multi-translated KJV is authoratative?

    2.) People are indoctrinated with falsehood because of bad choices men have made genration after generation. Were given free will nigga. The world is fucked up because of people like you who want to influence people and dont know what the fuck theyre talking about. Ego=satanism. Your understanding of even how the spiritual realm works on a basic level is so underdeveloped and cartoonish. I seriously think you are mentally challenged..

    3) Nigga when the term Israel was created ALL the people on earth were black or at least had color you idiot.The ancient world didnt even have the concept of "black" and "white" as races or ethnic types stupid. You dont even read the bible nigga lol. Not even in English. Fuck is wrong with you? A metaphor for all black people...lol. Pharoah was black..he wasnt Israel. Nimrod was black..Nebuchadnezzar was black etc,etc,etc. You have crazy peoples logic. Seriously, you need help bruh. No joke. Your mind is seriously fucked up.

    This nonsense is not even worth responding to.

    1.) You say heaven and hell are in the KJV Bible but not the original Hebrew text. Did your god not know that ppl were going to be reading the KJV Bible and not some lost original hebrew text?

    2.) People are indoctrinated with falsehood because of bad choices? This sounds like a scapegoat to protect the wife beater. You can't possibly be speaking of ego when I see it all over that old testament. I have no large ego at all. And speaking on spiritual realm you are the one with no understanding of it in your Yaldabaoth religion. Your old testament don't even deal with the spiritual realm for the most part. And yes, you are the one mentally enslaved and challenged.

    You could not come up with a better answer to why the masses of the world are indoctrinated into the KJV Bible and not the religious book you read out of? Lol I see cuz none of your shyt come from a Creator but those looking to mentally enslave the dumb masses.

    3.) The term Israel is referring to all the different tribes of black Africans. You haven't even met most of the different type of Africans cuz I have and I realize that many of them are just the same as so called African Americans. You the type that like to stereotype and look at one type of African, usually the jungle type and say look see we are not African. Nigga plz with your crazy religious theories, you need to wake up out of delusion and come back to reality.

    1.) First of all Im not just "saying that". Nigga thats historical fact. look for yourself. its there for all to see so therefore it is not a matter of my opinion. I dont even understand the relevance of your question. But to answer it, the prophetic book of Daniel says until the time of the end the words of the book would be sealed. You would know that if you actually read the bible before you chose to discuss it moron.

    2) Im not mentally enslaved because I dont agree with that Gnostic bullshit. Nigga stupid as hell trying to use manipulative language all clumsy and shit lol. That type of deception is for smarter demons nigga. Stay in your lane.

    The world is indoctrinated because my forefathers DIDNT respect the laws governing reality that Yah taught them in a simplified form throught the law of Moses. Nigga youre just regurgitating base minded propaganda. Explain how the ten commandments, for example, is mental enslavement. Explain how love thy neighbor is mental enslavement. Explain how dietary proven by modern science to be efficient are mental enslavement. And the list goes on...You a simple nigga.

    3)These are not theories. There are books on this. Everything I say has been researched over the last 13 years from written sources and from global travel and communing with indigenous people. What did you do to come the conclusions you have again? Oh thats right NOT A GODDAMN THING. Moreover, nigga I am African muthafucka. We who you talking shit about are the ONLY people in Africa helping fellow Africans have sustainable living despite the effects of neo-colonialism. Youre a nobody who types on a hip-hop forum. So now its too subjects youre an uneducated expert on..the bible and Africa. Yet you cant read the bible in its original form and you aint been to Africa. Yet in still youre arguing with someone whose ENTIRE ADULT life has rotated around those two subjects...ok. waste of time.
  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    The tanach is not a religious book. If you referring to the bible, nigga the new testament is part of that book which is once again some skitzo shit coming from your way.

    nigga please. i can tell you the truth till im blue in the face... all u gone do is keep saying weird untrue shit. nigga we dont even believe in no heaven or hell afterlife period. but hol up...nigga the only threats of hell ARE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT NIGGA. how far are you going to go with this little act?

    i dont have a religion just because you say i do fag. im ethnically a hebrew israelite delineated through the ashanti tribe of the akan region. youre a crazy ass retarded internet dude. go back to real life and continue NOT getting pussy which is more than likely the cause of all your spiritual struggles. either that or u aint getting hit in the butt by other sodomites like yourself enough for your taste

    I don't care that you don't believe in a heaven or hell... It's one recorded in the KJV Bible, so what religious book are you coming from? The New Testament is contained inside of the KJV Bible so again what religious book are you coming out of? And why would your god allow for a heaven and hell to be recorded in the KJV Bible if one is non existent?

    And if your god is in control of this world then why have more ppl been indoctrinated into the KJV Bible rather than the religious book you are coming out of? tell me the point of that nigga. what so ppl can be fucked up for being confused?

    And nigga that lost children of Israel is a metaphor for all blacks on earth. You take it as a literal to think you come from out of one man named Jacob who had a real brother called Esau which came out of the same parents. Lol
    Three reasons why reading is fundamental

    1.) King James had a team of translators translate the Greek Septuagint which was translated from the Latin Vulgate which was translated from a collection of different books in Hebrew, Aramaic and Koine Greek. Heaven and hell is in the KJV. Its not in the original Hebrew text. Im dumb but here in the information age where you have all kinds of hisorical and archaeological data literally at your fingertips youre suggesting that ANYTHINg in the multi-translated KJV is authoratative?

    2.) People are indoctrinated with falsehood because of bad choices men have made genration after generation. Were given free will nigga. The world is fucked up because of people like you who want to influence people and dont know what the fuck theyre talking about. Ego=satanism. Your understanding of even how the spiritual realm works on a basic level is so underdeveloped and cartoonish. I seriously think you are mentally challenged..

    3) Nigga when the term Israel was created ALL the people on earth were black or at least had color you idiot.The ancient world didnt even have the concept of "black" and "white" as races or ethnic types stupid. You dont even read the bible nigga lol. Not even in English. Fuck is wrong with you? A metaphor for all black people...lol. Pharoah was black..he wasnt Israel. Nimrod was black..Nebuchadnezzar was black etc,etc,etc. You have crazy peoples logic. Seriously, you need help bruh. No joke. Your mind is seriously fucked up.

    This nonsense is not even worth responding to.

    1.) You say heaven and hell are in the KJV Bible but not the original Hebrew text. Did your god not know that ppl were going to be reading the KJV Bible and not some lost original hebrew text?

    2.) People are indoctrinated with falsehood because of bad choices? This sounds like a scapegoat to protect the wife beater. You can't possibly be speaking of ego when I see it all over that old testament. I have no large ego at all. And speaking on spiritual realm you are the one with no understanding of it in your Yaldabaoth religion. Your old testament don't even deal with the spiritual realm for the most part. And yes, you are the one mentally enslaved and challenged.

    You could not come up with a better answer to why the masses of the world are indoctrinated into the KJV Bible and not the religious book you read out of? Lol I see cuz none of your shyt come from a Creator but those looking to mentally enslave the dumb masses.

    3.) The term Israel is referring to all the different tribes of black Africans. You haven't even met most of the different type of Africans cuz I have and I realize that many of them are just the same as so called African Americans. You the type that like to stereotype and look at one type of African, usually the jungle type and say look see we are not African. Nigga plz with your crazy religious theories, you need to wake up out of delusion and come back to reality.

    1.) First of all Im not just "saying that". Nigga thats historical fact. look for yourself. its there for all to see so therefore it is not a matter of my opinion. I dont even understand the relevance of your question. But to answer it, the prophetic book of Daniel says until the time of the end the words of the book would be sealed. You would know that if you actually read the bible before you chose to discuss it moron.

    2) Im not mentally enslaved because I dont agree with that Gnostic bullshit. Nigga stupid as hell trying to use manipulative language all clumsy and shit lol. That type of deception is for smarter demons nigga. Stay in your lane.

    The world is indoctrinated because my forefathers DIDNT respect the laws governing reality that Yah taught them in a simplified form throught the law of Moses. Nigga youre just regurgitating base minded propaganda. Explain how the ten commandments, for example, is mental enslavement. Explain how love thy neighbor is mental enslavement. Explain how dietary proven by modern science to be efficient are mental enslavement. And the list goes on...You a simple nigga.

    3)These are not theories. There are books on this. Everything I say has been researched over the last 13 years from written sources and from global travel and communing with indigenous people. What did you do to come the conclusions you have again? Oh thats right NOT A GODDAMN THING. Moreover, nigga I am African muthafucka. We who you talking shit about are the ONLY people in Africa helping fellow Africans have sustainable living despite the effects of neo-colonialism. Youre a nobody who types on a hip-hop forum. So now its too subjects youre an uneducated expert on..the bible and Africa. Yet you cant read the bible in its original form and you aint been to Africa. Yet in still youre arguing with someone whose ENTIRE ADULT life has rotated around those two subjects...ok. waste of time.


    Yeah, you are right conversating with a mentally enslaved religious nut is a waste of time.. You try to talk like everything you know is truth or fact. Nigga, true black scholars already debunked over 95% of the religious dogma you speak on so stfu and sit yo religious ass down. this world does not revolve around religion, except the world the white man indoctrinated your ass into.

  • judahxulujudahxulu Posts: 2,959
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    And for the record no human being is our real enemy here. You need to look in your religious text to see who is the real instigator for all the division, hatred, and wars among the human family. It is the rulers of darkness as taught in the Gnostic gospels.


    “We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Ephesians 6:12)

    Nigga please. Those spirits gotta manifest in flesh and blood. Paul aint a prophet. The niggas only authority is by credentials he made up himself. I have no religious book bitch. You just sound stupid. Im KNOWN for dropping post after post detailing exactly why the Tanach IS NOT a religious book. FOR YEARS NOW. Fucking troll.


    Nigga, them spirits are directing the course of humanity regardless you fool, and they exist for the most part in other realms, the damn archons and demiurge are the one behind all major religions that loves blood sacrifices and worship. And stfu about Paul when your all knowing god allowed him to be included in most modern day Bibles that have influenced ppl for hundreds of years. And I could give a fuck about you teaching about some Tanach on a hip hop website to a bunch of ingorant masses who most have not read a Bible to begin with. Lol, you continue to be a dumb joke and a religious nut thats mentally enslaved.

    Whatever troll. Im winning. In my actual life and in this stupid ass thread. You make upp whatever you wwant. Youre losing. I can smell it on you. Youre one of those weak niggas unable to survive in the world. I know its hard for you. Gone head and free yourself from this physical world then. If Im with the bad side and we run physical reality then go on where you belong nigga. Kill yourself.
  • toktaylortoktaylor Posts: 612
    and after reading all the posts and counter posts, there is no doubt that the concept of religion is solely to separate mankind. You guys could debate till you are blue in the face, there would be no victor...and so it is worldwide, with all race, creed and religion until the end of time.
    The answer is simple..."everything is everything...the world is unfolding as it should."
  • judahxulujudahxulu Posts: 2,959
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    The tanach is not a religious book. If you referring to the bible, nigga the new testament is part of that book which is once again some skitzo shit coming from your way.

    nigga please. i can tell you the truth till im blue in the face... all u gone do is keep saying weird untrue shit. nigga we dont even believe in no heaven or hell afterlife period. but hol up...nigga the only threats of hell ARE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT NIGGA. how far are you going to go with this little act?

    i dont have a religion just because you say i do fag. im ethnically a hebrew israelite delineated through the ashanti tribe of the akan region. youre a crazy ass retarded internet dude. go back to real life and continue NOT getting pussy which is more than likely the cause of all your spiritual struggles. either that or u aint getting hit in the butt by other sodomites like yourself enough for your taste

    I don't care that you don't believe in a heaven or hell... It's one recorded in the KJV Bible, so what religious book are you coming from? The New Testament is contained inside of the KJV Bible so again what religious book are you coming out of? And why would your god allow for a heaven and hell to be recorded in the KJV Bible if one is non existent?

    And if your god is in control of this world then why have more ppl been indoctrinated into the KJV Bible rather than the religious book you are coming out of? tell me the point of that nigga. what so ppl can be fucked up for being confused?

    And nigga that lost children of Israel is a metaphor for all blacks on earth. You take it as a literal to think you come from out of one man named Jacob who had a real brother called Esau which came out of the same parents. Lol
    Three reasons why reading is fundamental

    1.) King James had a team of translators translate the Greek Septuagint which was translated from the Latin Vulgate which was translated from a collection of different books in Hebrew, Aramaic and Koine Greek. Heaven and hell is in the KJV. Its not in the original Hebrew text. Im dumb but here in the information age where you have all kinds of hisorical and archaeological data literally at your fingertips youre suggesting that ANYTHINg in the multi-translated KJV is authoratative?

    2.) People are indoctrinated with falsehood because of bad choices men have made genration after generation. Were given free will nigga. The world is fucked up because of people like you who want to influence people and dont know what the fuck theyre talking about. Ego=satanism. Your understanding of even how the spiritual realm works on a basic level is so underdeveloped and cartoonish. I seriously think you are mentally challenged..

    3) Nigga when the term Israel was created ALL the people on earth were black or at least had color you idiot.The ancient world didnt even have the concept of "black" and "white" as races or ethnic types stupid. You dont even read the bible nigga lol. Not even in English. Fuck is wrong with you? A metaphor for all black people...lol. Pharoah was black..he wasnt Israel. Nimrod was black..Nebuchadnezzar was black etc,etc,etc. You have crazy peoples logic. Seriously, you need help bruh. No joke. Your mind is seriously fucked up.

    This nonsense is not even worth responding to.

    1.) You say heaven and hell are in the KJV Bible but not the original Hebrew text. Did your god not know that ppl were going to be reading the KJV Bible and not some lost original hebrew text?

    2.) People are indoctrinated with falsehood because of bad choices? This sounds like a scapegoat to protect the wife beater. You can't possibly be speaking of ego when I see it all over that old testament. I have no large ego at all. And speaking on spiritual realm you are the one with no understanding of it in your Yaldabaoth religion. Your old testament don't even deal with the spiritual realm for the most part. And yes, you are the one mentally enslaved and challenged.

    You could not come up with a better answer to why the masses of the world are indoctrinated into the KJV Bible and not the religious book you read out of? Lol I see cuz none of your shyt come from a Creator but those looking to mentally enslave the dumb masses.

    3.) The term Israel is referring to all the different tribes of black Africans. You haven't even met most of the different type of Africans cuz I have and I realize that many of them are just the same as so called African Americans. You the type that like to stereotype and look at one type of African, usually the jungle type and say look see we are not African. Nigga plz with your crazy religious theories, you need to wake up out of delusion and come back to reality.

    1.) First of all Im not just "saying that". Nigga thats historical fact. look for yourself. its there for all to see so therefore it is not a matter of my opinion. I dont even understand the relevance of your question. But to answer it, the prophetic book of Daniel says until the time of the end the words of the book would be sealed. You would know that if you actually read the bible before you chose to discuss it moron.

    2) Im not mentally enslaved because I dont agree with that Gnostic bullshit. Nigga stupid as hell trying to use manipulative language all clumsy and shit lol. That type of deception is for smarter demons nigga. Stay in your lane.

    The world is indoctrinated because my forefathers DIDNT respect the laws governing reality that Yah taught them in a simplified form throught the law of Moses. Nigga youre just regurgitating base minded propaganda. Explain how the ten commandments, for example, is mental enslavement. Explain how love thy neighbor is mental enslavement. Explain how dietary proven by modern science to be efficient are mental enslavement. And the list goes on...You a simple nigga.

    3)These are not theories. There are books on this. Everything I say has been researched over the last 13 years from written sources and from global travel and communing with indigenous people. What did you do to come the conclusions you have again? Oh thats right NOT A GODDAMN THING. Moreover, nigga I am African muthafucka. We who you talking shit about are the ONLY people in Africa helping fellow Africans have sustainable living despite the effects of neo-colonialism. Youre a nobody who types on a hip-hop forum. So now its too subjects youre an uneducated expert on..the bible and Africa. Yet you cant read the bible in its original form and you aint been to Africa. Yet in still youre arguing with someone whose ENTIRE ADULT life has rotated around those two subjects...ok. waste of time.


    Yeah, you are right conversating with a mentally enslaved religious nut is a waste of time.. You try to talk like everything you know is truth or fact. Nigga, true black scholars already debunked over 95% of the religious dogma you speak on so stfu and sit yo religious ass down. this world does not revolve around religion, except the world the white man indoctrinated your ass into.

    95% of scholars LMBAO..nigga you aint refuted ONE thing Ive said directly much less have you cshown even 5% of scholars disagree with me. You just keep repeating the word religious and other general shit that means nothing at all. Religious religious religious..so the fuck what? You saying that has nothing to do with anything. It doesnt matter if what I say is Truth or fact or not. The point is if you sincerely cared about the subject matter you would fact check just to be sure you the one that aint wrong. Youll learn about playing with shit like this tho..
  • waterproofwaterproof Posts: 7,046
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    And for the record no human being is our real enemy here. You need to look in your religious text to see who is the real instigator for all the division, hatred, and wars among the human family. It is the rulers of darkness as taught in the Gnostic gospels.


    “We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Ephesians 6:12)

    Nigga please. Those spirits gotta manifest in flesh and blood. Paul aint a prophet. The niggas only authority is by credentials he made up himself. I have no religious book bitch. You just sound stupid. Im KNOWN for dropping post after post detailing exactly why the Tanach IS NOT a religious book. FOR YEARS NOW. Fucking troll.


    Nigga, them spirits are directing the course of humanity regardless you fool, and they exist for the most part in other realms, the damn archons and demiurge are the one behind all major religions that loves blood sacrifices and worship. And stfu about Paul when your all knowing god allowed him to be included in most modern day Bibles that have influenced ppl for hundreds of years. And I could give a fuck about you teaching about some Tanach on a hip hop website to a bunch of ingorant masses who most have not read a Bible tohe begin with. Lol, you continue to be a dumb joke and a religious nut thats mentally enslaved.

    You stupid ass dummy, all the questions you asked for is right in the tanach and in the message from Yahushua and it's hidden from you because of your spirit, you will not receive the message. Yes Yah warn us and Yahushua warn us about who will come and try to bring in a new message it's clear as day. You stupid for not even knowing that the gospel of yahushua and part of the book of acts is still the old testament you stupid ass fool
  • judahxulujudahxulu Posts: 2,959
    toktaylor wrote: »
    and after reading all the posts and counter posts, there is no doubt that the concept of religion is solely to separate mankind. You guys could debate till you are blue in the face, there would be no victor...and so it is worldwide, with all race, creed and religion until the end of time.
    The answer is simple..."everything is everything...the world is unfolding as it should."

    I dont have a religion just because that nigga keep saying that so keep me out that bag. My position is pretty clear. Either way, whether Im religious or not has nothing to do with the historical realities and basic flaws in logic that invalidate the whole premise of this thread. Fuck a religion. I keep asking about works...thats what settles it. By their works ye shall know them
  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    And for the record no human being is our real enemy here. You need to look in your religious text to see who is the real instigator for all the division, hatred, and wars among the human family. It is the rulers of darkness as taught in the Gnostic gospels.


    “We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Ephesians 6:12)

    Nigga please. Those spirits gotta manifest in flesh and blood. Paul aint a prophet. The niggas only authority is by credentials he made up himself. I have no religious book bitch. You just sound stupid. Im KNOWN for dropping post after post detailing exactly why the Tanach IS NOT a religious book. FOR YEARS NOW. Fucking troll.


    Nigga, them spirits are directing the course of humanity regardless you fool, and they exist for the most part in other realms, the damn archons and demiurge are the one behind all major religions that loves blood sacrifices and worship. And stfu about Paul when your all knowing god allowed him to be included in most modern day Bibles that have influenced ppl for hundreds of years. And I could give a fuck about you teaching about some Tanach on a hip hop website to a bunch of ingorant masses who most have not read a Bible tohe begin with. Lol, you continue to be a dumb joke and a religious nut thats mentally enslaved.

    You stupid ass dummy, all the questions you asked for is right in the tanach and in the message from Yahushua and it's hidden from you because of your spirit, you will not receive the message. Yes Yah warn us and Yahushua warn us about who will come and try to bring in a new message it's clear as day. You stupid for not even knowing that the gospel of yahushua and part of the book of acts is still the old testament you stupid ass fool

    LMBO there ain't no answers to what I asked in that Tanach.. I will let you two religious nuts continue on in your delusions. I can see right through it, hopefully, you will one day too.
  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    toktaylor wrote: »
    and after reading all the posts and counter posts, there is no doubt that the concept of religion is solely to separate mankind. You guys could debate till you are blue in the face, there would be no victor...and so it is worldwide, with all race, creed and religion until the end of time.
    The answer is simple..."everything is everything...the world is unfolding as it should."

    I agree..
  • judahxulujudahxulu Posts: 2,959
    toktaylor wrote: »
    and after reading all the posts and counter posts, there is no doubt that the concept of religion is solely to separate mankind. You guys could debate till you are blue in the face, there would be no victor...and so it is worldwide, with all race, creed and religion until the end of time.
    The answer is simple..."everything is everything...the world is unfolding as it should."
    And btw..I do agree with the bottom line last sentence. In a beginning the realm of physical existence is chaotic and without definition..and the creative potentiality of the All speaks forth harmonic illumination into the chaotic voice. and illumination is so. And it is god....

    ^Genesis for real..


  • judahxulujudahxulu Posts: 2,959
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    And for the record no human being is our real enemy here. You need to look in your religious text to see who is the real instigator for all the division, hatred, and wars among the human family. It is the rulers of darkness as taught in the Gnostic gospels.


    “We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Ephesians 6:12)

    Nigga please. Those spirits gotta manifest in flesh and blood. Paul aint a prophet. The niggas only authority is by credentials he made up himself. I have no religious book bitch. You just sound stupid. Im KNOWN for dropping post after post detailing exactly why the Tanach IS NOT a religious book. FOR YEARS NOW. Fucking troll.


    Nigga, them spirits are directing the course of humanity regardless you fool, and they exist for the most part in other realms, the damn archons and demiurge are the one behind all major religions that loves blood sacrifices and worship. And stfu about Paul when your all knowing god allowed him to be included in most modern day Bibles that have influenced ppl for hundreds of years. And I could give a fuck about you teaching about some Tanach on a hip hop website to a bunch of ingorant masses who most have not read a Bible tohe begin with. Lol, you continue to be a dumb joke and a religious nut thats mentally enslaved.

    You stupid ass dummy, all the questions you asked for is right in the tanach and in the message from Yahushua and it's hidden from you because of your spirit, you will not receive the message. Yes Yah warn us and Yahushua warn us about who will come and try to bring in a new message it's clear as day. You stupid for not even knowing that the gospel of yahushua and part of the book of acts is still the old testament you stupid ass fool

    LMBO there ain't no answers to what I asked in that Tanach.. I will let you two religious nuts continue on in your delusions. I can see right through it, hopefully, you will one day too.
    WHAT delusions exactly nigga? You just keep sayinggeneral shit or shit based on false presuppositions. what delusion?

  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    judahxulu wrote: »
    beenwize wrote: »
    And for the record no human being is our real enemy here. You need to look in your religious text to see who is the real instigator for all the division, hatred, and wars among the human family. It is the rulers of darkness as taught in the Gnostic gospels.


    “We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Ephesians 6:12)

    Nigga please. Those spirits gotta manifest in flesh and blood. Paul aint a prophet. The niggas only authority is by credentials he made up himself. I have no religious book bitch. You just sound stupid. Im KNOWN for dropping post after post detailing exactly why the Tanach IS NOT a religious book. FOR YEARS NOW. Fucking troll.


    Nigga, them spirits are directing the course of humanity regardless you fool, and they exist for the most part in other realms, the damn archons and demiurge are the one behind all major religions that loves blood sacrifices and worship. And stfu about Paul when your all knowing god allowed him to be included in most modern day Bibles that have influenced ppl for hundreds of years. And I could give a fuck about you teaching about some Tanach on a hip hop website to a bunch of ingorant masses who most have not read a Bible tohe begin with. Lol, you continue to be a dumb joke and a religious nut thats mentally enslaved.

    You stupid ass dummy, all the questions you asked for is right in the tanach and in the message from Yahushua and it's hidden from you because of your spirit, you will not receive the message. Yes Yah warn us and Yahushua warn us about who will come and try to bring in a new message it's clear as day. You stupid for not even knowing that the gospel of yahushua and part of the book of acts is still the old testament you stupid ass fool

    LMBO there ain't no answers to what I asked in that Tanach.. I will let you two religious nuts continue on in your delusions. I can see right through it, hopefully, you will one day too.
    WHAT delusions exactly nigga? You just keep sayinggeneral shit or shit based on false presuppositions. what delusion?

    These delusions nigga.. The Ancient Egyptian civilization lasted for a minimum of 4,000 years so why did they not worship Yahweh back then? In fact they had a entire civilization devoted toward other gods whom they believed was the Creator. Why didn't the Ancient Sumerian civilization worship Yahweh? In fact they had a entire civilization devoted to the worship of other gods whom they believed was the Creator.

    So why did none of these people throughout this long period of time not worship Yahweh but had civilizations devoted to other Creator gods?

    oh yeah, according to you they are heathens and pagans cuz your religious book says so. right Lol

    According to them you, they will say you are under blasphemy against the Creator since you don't believe in their god. The Muslims and Hindus and many tribes in Africa will also say the same thing since you don't acknowledge their creator god but say yours it the true one cuz of your religious text.
  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    beenwize wrote: »
    Below is something someone else posted about today.. Lol



    The Bible reveals an important, yet often overlooked trait of God's nature and that is his thirst for blood. From the beginning of his dealings with man he has shown his preference for spilled blood; he accepted Able's offering of sheep's blood and rejected Cain's offering of grains and plants (Genesis 4:3-5). God has told man that the shedding of blood is required to be forgiven of sins (Leviticus 17:11, Hebrews 9:22). In the Old Testament, millions of animals were slaughtered and their blood poured onto altars and burned in a futile attempt to please God. The smoke from the burning flesh and blood was such a sweet scent to God (Exodus 29:18, Leviticus 1:9), that his anger was appeased when he smelled the sweet, burning blood (Genesis 8:21) Even the human/god sacrifice of Jesus is compared to the sweet smelling barbecue of an animal (Epehsians 5:2). Why is blood so sweet to this vampiric God? Why is blood required to be spilled in order to receive forgiveness from this "merciful" God? Don't ask these questions, "just believe," you will be told. Besides why risk ending up in an eternal barbecue just because things smell a little strange to you?


    Lol
  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117

    wise words by Thomas Paine.. I wonder if he is being tortured somewhere.


    “Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon than the Word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind.”

    -Thomas Paine
  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    "Blasphemy? No, it is not blasphemy. If God is as vast as that, he is above blasphemy; if He is as little as that, He is beneath it." — Mark Twain


    "The Creator who purports to be beyond human judgment is consistently ruled by human passions—jealousy, wrath, suspicion, and the lust to dominate." — Sam Harris


    Elizabeth Warren supports the Israeli army's genocide against Palestinians. Yahweh (aka the deluded God of the Bible) would be so proud.....She should be a Christian, if she isn't already.


    "Any God that would damn one of his children for the expression of his honest thought wouldn't make a decent thief. When I read a book and don't believe it, I ought to say so. I will do so and take the consequences like a man." — Robert G. Ingersoll


    "The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree? Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. 'You eat this apple, you're going to be as smart as God. We can't have that.'" — Frank Zappa


    "The treatment of women in Muslim communities throughout the world is unconscionable." — Sam Harris


    "And not scorning the three delightful children who result— who are everything to me and who are my only chance of even a glimpse of a second life, let alone an immortal one, and I’ll tell you something: if I was told to sacrifice them to prove my devotion to God, if I was told to do what all monotheists are told to do and admire the man who said, 'Yes, I’ll gut my kid to show my love of God,' I’d say, 'No. Fuck you.'" — Christopher Hitchens


    "All these religions are inconsistent with intellectual liberty. They are the enemies of thought, of investigation, of mental honesty. They destroy the manliness of man. They promise eternal rewards for belief, for credulity, for what they call faith. This is not only absurd, but it is immoral." — Robert G. Ingersoll


    "These religions teach the slave virtues. They make inanimate things holy, and falsehoods sacred. They create artificial crimes." — Robert G. Ingersoll


    "All religions are cruel, all founded on blood; for all rest principally on the idea of sacrifice - that is, on the perpetual immolation of humanity to the insatiable vengeance of divinity." — Mikhail Bakunin


    "One should never cease from combating just this in Christianity: its will to break precisely the strongest and noblest souls." — Friedrich Nietzsche


    Patriotism and religion are practically twins. Fanaticism, hatred for critical thinking, blind obedience, and authoritarianism comprise both concepts.


    If Christians, Muslims and Jews were so peaceful as they claim, why have there been wars and death committed by them? Because they are liars and murderers. Biblical/Koranic/Talmudic morality is barbaric. Christians, Muslims and Jews who "think" otherwise are deluding themselves twice over.








  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    "The Bible tells us to be like God, and then on page after page it describes God as a mass murderer. This may be the single most important key to the political behavior of Western Civilization." — Robert Anton Wilson


    God Himself is the exact type of atheist Christians censure others for being, seeing as Yahweh boasts that He is His own god and he refuses to acknowledge any alternatives for worship but HIMSELF (another thing Christians accuse atheists of doing). He states this in his Bible, "I am God, and there are no other gods beside me." This is what an atheist would say in secret or to other atheists, according to a Christian's biblically programmed mind. Being one's own god (an atheistic trait according to Christians) is exactly what the God of the Bible is doing.


    Abraham was ready to MURDER HIS OWN INNOCENT SON to prove his faith in God. He was willing to kill a child for God. I don't know about you, but Abraham is an apt example of what we would call psychopathy, willing to murder your innocent son just because a voice in your head calling itself God ordered you to do so.



    Christianity itself is a racket. "Love God and you will be saved. Disbelieve in God and you burn in Hell." Exactly like a mafia racket. Pay the money, or else. That's what religion is at its essence: mental and emotional (and sometimes physical) extortion.


    To the theist, rape, murder and slavery are okay if God allows or tells you to do those acts. The God of the Bible condones rape, murder and slavery. He thrives from it! He loves it when his believers drench themselves with the blood of unbelievers and apostate nations. God loves murder. God loves torturing those who don't believe in Him. He is a sadistic bastard. He is a tyrant. He is a misogynist, A male chauvinist. Jesus said that he and his Father were one, of one substance and of one mind. "Love" and "forgiveness" have lured people into the barbaric patriarchal cult of Abraham's god. Only a fool would bow down to him. Only someone who loves their slavery would bow to him.


    "That is the idea -- that we should all be wicked if we did not hold to the Christian religion. It seems to me that the people who have held to it have been for the most part extremely wicked. You find this curious fact, that the more intense has been the religion of any period and the more profound has been the dogmatic belief, the greater has been the cruelty and the worse has been the state of affairs. In the so-called Ages of faith, when men really did believe the Christian religion in all its completeness, there was the Inquisition, with all its tortures; there were millions of unfortunate women burned as witches; and there was every kind of cruelty practiced upon all sorts of people in the name of religion." — Bertrand Russell


    "Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do." — Bertrand Russell


    "If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities." — Voltaire


    "No theory, no ready-made system, no book that has ever been written will save the world. I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker." — Mikhail Bakunin


    "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." — Thomas Paine

    "The church has burned honesty and rewarded hypocrisy. And all this, because it was commanded by a book — a book that men had been taught implicitly to believe, long before they knew one word that was in it. They had been taught that to doubt the truth of this book — to examine it, even — was a crime of such enormity that it could not be forgiven, either in this world or in the next." — Robert G. Ingersoll




  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    That deceiver Yaldabaoth.
    Thanks to the true father of Yeshua, the truth will continue to be revealed.



    this is a copy/paste comment someone made from the site below.

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message196837/pg3




    Lord God = Satan

    Here are 2 passages describing the same incident.

    1) 2 samuel 24:1 reads:
    And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel,and he moved David against them to say,Go,number Israel and Judah.

    2) 1 Chonicls 21:1 reads;
    And Satan stood up against Israel,and provoked David to number Israel.

    AND HERE A PASSAGE FOR ALL DIE HARD CHRISTIANS

    Isaiah 45:7 reads:
    I form the light,and create darkness:I make peace,and create evil:I the Lord do all these things.

    Lord God and satan are the same being !!!!




    Notice here in the above scripture in Isaiah 45:7 where Lord God claims to only create two things which is either darkness or evil. Then he does not even say that he can create light or peace but he says he FORMS AND OR MAKES PEACE/LIGHT. That means that some other source can create the light or peace but he is only FORMING/MOLDING/SHAPING it and NOT creating it... This is the KJV Bible english version of the scripture. I haven't checked the Hebrew to see any difference yet.



    form/fôrm/
    Noun:
    The visible shape or configuration of something.
    Verb:
    Bring together parts or combine to create (something): "the company was formed in 1982".
    Synonyms:
    noun. shape - figure - mould - mold - blank
    verb. shape - mould - mold - make - fashion - constitute


    make/māk/
    Verb:
    Form (something) by putting parts together or combining substances; construct; create: "she made a dress".
  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    Like Yeshua said you will recognize them by their fruits. A corrupt tree cannot produce good fruit just like a good tree cannot produce evil fruit. But in the above verses we see Yahweh creating evil and darkness and only forming and molding light or peace. Why does this scripture not say Yahweh creates peace and evil?


    Matthew 7:16-20

    Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

    Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

    A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

    Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

    Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.


    So why does this scripture indicate evil and darkness being created but then say peace and light being formed and made? What exactly does that mean?
  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    Yeshua says a good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, yet we see Yahweh saying he is the creator of darkness and evil. And why does this scripture say Yahweh is sending evil spirits?

    Matthew 7:16-20
    Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

    Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

    A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit,



    Amos 3:6
    Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and YAHWEH hath not done it?

    2 Chronicles 18:22
    Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.

    1 Samuel 19:9
    And the evil spirit from YAHWEH was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.

    1 Samuel 18:10 The next day an evil spirit from YAHWEH came forcefully upon Saul. He was prophesying in his house, while David was playing the harp, as he usually did. Saul had a spear in his hand

    1 Kings 22:22 "'By what means?' YAHWEH asked. "'I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said. "'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'

    Judges 9:23 God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the citizens of Shechem, who acted treacherously against Abimelech.

    1 Samuel 16:14 Now the Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD tormented him.
  • beenwizebeenwize Posts: 1,117
    As we see in many of the scriptures above Yahweh is sending evil spirits to ppl and he also admits to being the creator of darkness and evil so therefore who really is the ruler of darkness in this world? Yahweh did say if there is evil in a city, he did it.


    Ephesians 6:12
    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


    And this same ruler of darkness masquerades as an angel of good and light.


    2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.


    And Satan is masquerading/disguising himself as a angel of light or God? opposing and exalting himself above all to be worshiped? hmmm I think i might know what this is referring to.. Asking Yeshua to worship him as well? Lol

    mas·quer·ade/ˌmaskəˈrād/
    Noun:
    A false show or pretense.
    Verb:
    Pretend to be someone one is not: "a journalist masquerading as a man in distress".
    Synonyms:
    noun. mummery - disguise
    verb. mask



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