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Mayweather vs Mosley?

killapkillap Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 2010 in From the Cheap Seats
Floyd Mayweather is ready to negotiate a fight with welterweight champion Shane Mosley in the wake of Mosley's fight with Andre Berto being canceled, Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com on Monday night.

Mosley was due to face Andre Berto in a welterweight title unification match on Jan. 30 at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. However, Berto, a Haitian-American who had at least eight members of his family killed in the recent earthquake that devastated the Caribbean nation, withdrew from the fight earlier Monday because he was "mentally and physically exhausted" from dealing with the catastrophe and needed to be with his family.

"I know everyone is rushing to make this fight with Mosley, but I want people to know that Floyd feels awful for Berto and his family for what they and their country are going through," Ellerbe said. "That is first and foremost. But if, in fact, Shane Mosley is available, that's the fight that Floyd would love to make. It's no secret that Floyd has been trying to make a fight with Shane for the last 10 years.

"Our condolences go out to Berto and his family because that is the human side of this. Everyone is talking about us making a fight with Mosley, but Floyd wants people to know that his prayers -- all of ours -- are with Berto. But he also wants people to know that he is ready to fight Mosley. That's the fight he wants more than anything. And Floyd has instructed me and Al [Haymon, Mayweather's other adviser] to make the biggest fight possible. We will be talking with [Golden Boy CEO] Richard [Schaefer]. Floyd against Shane is the biggest fight in boxing right now that can be made."

Mayweather had been tentatively scheduled to fight Manny Pacquiao on March 13 before that bout fell apart when the sides would not compromise on the drug testing protocol for the bout. Mayweather insisted on rigorous blood testing, which he would also be subject to, but Pacquiao rejected it.

Instead, Pacquiao took a fight with former welterweight titlist Joshua Clottey, and they will meet on March 13 on pay-per-view at Cowboys Stadium. There is a news conference to formally announce the bout at the stadium on Tuesday followed by another news conference on Wednesday in New York.

Schaefer, who works with Mayweather, had said that Mayweather would fight a different opponent on March 13 in a competing pay-per-view from the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

However, with Mosley becoming available, attention immediately turned to Mosley-Mayweather, which, aside from Pacquiao-Mayweather or Pacquiao-Mosley, looms as the biggest fight in boxing.

According to Schaefer, he has the MGM Grand Garden Arena on hold for May 1 and May 8. Ellerbe said that time frame is fine with Mayweather for a fight with Mosley.

"Most definitely," Ellerbe said. "Shane is a great fighter and if a deal could be made, Shane would be the toughest fight out there. That fight is tougher than the other fight [Pacquiao-Mayweather]. It's a mega fight if it can be made."

If the bout is finalized, it remains to be seen if Mayweather would insist on the same rigorous drug testing he wanted Pacquiao to undergo. Pacquiao denies he has ever used performance-enhancing drugs even though Mayweather has alluded to him using and Mayweather's father, Floyd Mayweather Sr., has said outright that he believed Pacquiao used PEDs, despite having no evidence. The accusation led Pacquiao to file a defamation suit against the Mayweathers and others, including Schaefer and Golden Boy president Oscar De La Hoya.

Mosley, however, has admitted to using PEDs and was connected to the BALCO scandal. Although he publicly denied using PEDs for years, Mosley admitted during grand jury testimony, which was later released, that he used designer steroids "the clear" and "the cream" and injected himself with EPO, a blood oxygen enhancer, during the leadup to his 2003 rematch with Oscar De La Hoya.

Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs), a five-division champion, and Mosley (46-5, 39 KOs), a three-division champion, have seemingly been on a collision course for years dating to the late 1990s, when Mosley was lightweight champion and Mayweather was junior lightweight champion.

More recently, Mosley repeatedly called Mayweather out before he got involved negotiating the fight with Pacquiao. In fact, Mosley crashed Mayweather's post-fight interview in the ring following his September victory against Juan Manuel Marquez and publicly called him out to his face.

Schaefer said he would try to make the fight.

"That is a super fight, and now my next order of business -- to see if we can put [Mosley-Mayweather] together," he said. "That is what I am going to be doing in the coming hours. The sooner the better if we can get this potential fight done. With Shane now being available and Floyd being available, that's a fight all fight fans and sports fans would embrace. This would be a huge showdown. Shane has wanted that fight for a while. That's what I am going to try to do."


http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4837906

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  • ethosethos Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    I see this fight happening and doing crazy numbers. This is a fight I wanted to see more than the Pacquiao vs Money fight, because that fight is gift wrapped for Mayweather with Pac's over agressive style. I hope it gets signed soon. I will say this will be a tough fight for Mayweather, but I still see Mayweather by UD. While Mosley is a bigger threat, the boy got out-boxed by Cotto. Do the math.
    Every disappointment is a blessing in disguise....

    Causes and effects are not real, but are habits of our mind to make sense of the observation that A often occurs together with or slightly before B. All we can observe are correlations, not causations; from which we make inductive inferences.
  • themadlionsfanthemadlionsfan Posts: 9,083 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    killap wrote: »
    Floyd Mayweather is ready to negotiate a fight with welterweight champion Shane Mosley in the wake of Mosley's fight with Andre Berto being canceled, Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com on Monday night.

    Mosley was due to face Andre Berto in a welterweight title unification match on Jan. 30 at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. However, Berto, a Haitian-American who had at least eight members of his family killed in the recent earthquake that devastated the Caribbean nation, withdrew from the fight earlier Monday because he was "mentally and physically exhausted" from dealing with the catastrophe and needed to be with his family.

    "I know everyone is rushing to make this fight with Mosley, but I want people to know that Floyd feels awful for Berto and his family for what they and their country are going through," Ellerbe said. "That is first and foremost. But if, in fact, Shane Mosley is available, that's the fight that Floyd would love to make. It's no secret that Floyd has been trying to make a fight with Shane for the last 10 years.

    "Our condolences go out to Berto and his family because that is the human side of this. Everyone is talking about us making a fight with Mosley, but Floyd wants people to know that his prayers -- all of ours -- are with Berto. But he also wants people to know that he is ready to fight Mosley. That's the fight he wants more than anything. And Floyd has instructed me and Al [Haymon, Mayweather's other adviser] to make the biggest fight possible. We will be talking with [Golden Boy CEO] Richard [Schaefer]. Floyd against Shane is the biggest fight in boxing right now that can be made."

    Mayweather had been tentatively scheduled to fight Manny Pacquiao on March 13 before that bout fell apart when the sides would not compromise on the drug testing protocol for the bout. Mayweather insisted on rigorous blood testing, which he would also be subject to, but Pacquiao rejected it.

    Instead, Pacquiao took a fight with former welterweight titlist Joshua Clottey, and they will meet on March 13 on pay-per-view at Cowboys Stadium. There is a news conference to formally announce the bout at the stadium on Tuesday followed by another news conference on Wednesday in New York.

    Schaefer, who works with Mayweather, had said that Mayweather would fight a different opponent on March 13 in a competing pay-per-view from the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

    However, with Mosley becoming available, attention immediately turned to Mosley-Mayweather, which, aside from Pacquiao-Mayweather or Pacquiao-Mosley, looms as the biggest fight in boxing.

    According to Schaefer, he has the MGM Grand Garden Arena on hold for May 1 and May 8. Ellerbe said that time frame is fine with Mayweather for a fight with Mosley.

    "Most definitely," Ellerbe said. "Shane is a great fighter and if a deal could be made, Shane would be the toughest fight out there. That fight is tougher than the other fight [Pacquiao-Mayweather]. It's a mega fight if it can be made."

    If the bout is finalized, it remains to be seen if Mayweather would insist on the same rigorous drug testing he wanted Pacquiao to undergo. Pacquiao denies he has ever used performance-enhancing drugs even though Mayweather has alluded to him using and Mayweather's father, Floyd Mayweather Sr., has said outright that he believed Pacquiao used PEDs, despite having no evidence. The accusation led Pacquiao to file a defamation suit against the Mayweathers and others, including Schaefer and Golden Boy president Oscar De La Hoya.

    Mosley, however, has admitted to using PEDs and was connected to the BALCO scandal. Although he publicly denied using PEDs for years, Mosley admitted during grand jury testimony, which was later released, that he used designer steroids "the clear" and "the cream" and injected himself with EPO, a blood oxygen enhancer, during the leadup to his 2003 rematch with Oscar De La Hoya.

    Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs), a five-division champion, and Mosley (46-5, 39 KOs), a three-division champion, have seemingly been on a collision course for years dating to the late 1990s, when Mosley was lightweight champion and Mayweather was junior lightweight champion.

    More recently, Mosley repeatedly called Mayweather out before he got involved negotiating the fight with Pacquiao. In fact, Mosley crashed Mayweather's post-fight interview in the ring following his September victory against Juan Manuel Marquez and publicly called him out to his face.

    Schaefer said he would try to make the fight.

    "That is a super fight, and now my next order of business -- to see if we can put [Mosley-Mayweather] together," he said. "That is what I am going to be doing in the coming hours. The sooner the better if we can get this potential fight done. With Shane now being available and Floyd being available, that's a fight all fight fans and sports fans would embrace. This would be a huge showdown. Shane has wanted that fight for a while. That's what I am going to try to do."


    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4837906

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  • ethosethos Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    no secret?....shiiiiiiiiiiiit....coulda fooled me>

    In 99/00 and '06 he called out Mosley twice and was denied but stupid excuses by Mosley prevented that from happening.. After Mayweather became the bigger fighter he kinda made Mosley wait it out now since Mosley was fuckin' around back then and never wanted to give him a chance. That's what I think anyway. Regardless this should be entertaining..
    Every disappointment is a blessing in disguise....

    Causes and effects are not real, but are habits of our mind to make sense of the observation that A often occurs together with or slightly before B. All we can observe are correlations, not causations; from which we make inductive inferences.
  • killapkillap Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    ethos wrote: »
    In 99/00 and '06 he called out Mosley twice and was denied but stupid excuses by Mosley prevented that from happening.. After Mayweather became the bigger fighter he kinda made Mosley wait it out now since Mosley was fuckin' around back then and never wanted to give him a chance. That's what I think anyway. Regardless this should be entertaining..

    LOL remember when Mosley was like 'I cant fight you I'm goin on vacation' wtf?
  • Rated RRated R Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    killap wrote: »
    LOL remember when Mosley was like 'I cant fight you I'm goin on vacation' wtf?
    yea i got a tooth ache that nigga a bitch
  • dc's teflondondc's teflondon Posts: 5,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    we'll see if this happens; but i think it will
  • ethosethos Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    killap wrote: »
    LOL remember when Mosley was like 'I cant fight you I'm goin on vacation' wtf?
    Rated R wrote: »
    yea i got a tooth ache that nigga a bitch

    Lol, yeah that shit was some ol' crazy shit.

    (not exact words but...) "Nah, I can't fight him 3-4 months from now. I got a tooth ache and need to go on vacation."

    On some bitch made shit. People wanna act like they forget and accuse Mayweather of ducking him. People might have a small claim with May 'ducking' Williams or Margocheato for the high risk low reward thing, but Mosley? Naaaaaah.
    Every disappointment is a blessing in disguise....

    Causes and effects are not real, but are habits of our mind to make sense of the observation that A often occurs together with or slightly before B. All we can observe are correlations, not causations; from which we make inductive inferences.
  • Bcotton5Bcotton5 Posts: 51,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    Yea I would rather see this than Pacman,May v Pac would have been another easy UD win by Floyd, Mosely can actually box w Floyd.

    Am I the only one that really wanted to see Mosely v Berto? Wouldve been a good fight
  • Chef_Taylor Chef_Taylor Young King.....pay me in gold Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    id rather see mosley-mayweather anyway after that ho shit mosley pulled after the mayweather-marquez fight
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  • smittysmithsmittysmith Posts: 8,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    But Floyd is a ducker.LOL






  • ethosethos Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    Yea I would rather see this than Pacman,May v Pac would have been another easy UD win by Floyd, Mosely can actually box w Floyd.

    Am I the only one that really wanted to see Mosely v Berto? Wouldve been a good fight

    I would of liked to see that fight, but something tells me the winner of Mosley/Mayweather will face Berto next if it's Floyd. If Floyd loses, then he will demand an immediate rematch and the mystique of his "0" would be gone. This is going to be a great fight.

    It's been reported that Mosley has already accepted to take the random drug testing. Maybe he is so willing cause he knows he's clean now? Heh'
    Every disappointment is a blessing in disguise....

    Causes and effects are not real, but are habits of our mind to make sense of the observation that A often occurs together with or slightly before B. All we can observe are correlations, not causations; from which we make inductive inferences.
  • perspective@100perspective@100 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    Floyd dont fight him... DUCK ni99a
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  • MillzOGMillzOG OG Posts: 14,460 Regulator
    edited January 2010
    i wanted to see Berto-Mosley that would've been good, but this is even better them niggas done talked so much shit back and forth to each other so this is gonna be entertainin.
  • ethosethos Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SfRp8xWeX8

    Very well put together video. Can't wait for this one to go down. I can't see this not happening. Shane already said he will take less peace of the $ pie, will do the random drug testing, and always said he wants to cement his legacy as one of the best Welterweights around. What better way to do that then to face Mayweather and beat him. Also beating Mayweather makes him the big meal ticket in boxing. Mayweather kills 4 birds with one stone by making Shane do the random blood thing which proves he is not trying to defame Pac's reputation; fight a legitment welterweight people have always wanted him to fight; and makes large sums of money in the process; and finally potentially setting up a big fight down the road with Pac to make him have more negotiating room because if Mayweather wins he'll hold the lineal belt in the division and without a doubt Money/Mosley will do more PPV buys then Pac/Clottey. The politics of boxing... you gotta love it


    On a side note. Can someone tell me the procedure on how to embed a video?
    Every disappointment is a blessing in disguise....

    Causes and effects are not real, but are habits of our mind to make sense of the observation that A often occurs together with or slightly before B. All we can observe are correlations, not causations; from which we make inductive inferences.
  • c.b.b.c.b.b. Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    ^^^^^

    Good points, I'm glad Shane is willing to compromise to leave no way for Floyd to turn him down.

    floyd can't turn this down without facing criticism and no one really wants to see him fight Paulie or Cintron
  • perspective@100perspective@100 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2010
    c.b.b. wrote: »
    ^^^^^

    Good points, I'm glad Shane is willing to compromise to leave no way for Floyd to turn him down.

    floyd can't turn this down without facing criticism and no one really wants to see him fight Paulie or Cintron

    Floyd will retire....... again
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  • socalirepsocalirep Posts: 77
    edited January 2010
    ethos wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SfRp8xWeX8

    Very well put together video. Can't wait for this one to go down. I can't see this not happening. Shane already said he will take less peace of the $ pie, will do the random drug testing, and always said he wants to cement his legacy as one of the best Welterweights around. What better way to do that then to face Mayweather and beat him. Also beating Mayweather makes him the big meal ticket in boxing. Mayweather kills 4 birds with one stone by making Shane do the random blood thing which proves he is not trying to defame Pac's reputation; fight a legitment welterweight people have always wanted him to fight; and makes large sums of money in the process; and finally potentially setting up a big fight down the road with Pac to make him have more negotiating room because if Mayweather wins he'll hold the lineal belt in the division and without a doubt Money/Mosley will do more PPV buys then Pac/Clottey. The politics of boxing... you gotta love it


    On a side note. Can someone tell me the procedure on how to embed a video?

    Don't be so sure of that. Although, I will probably buy both fights because I'm a boxing fan, I think the average boxing fan would rather see Pacman lighting clottey up and eventually knocking him out then watching Floyd running around the ring from Mosley. Mosley is a big name tho so we will see, but I doubt Floyd fights Mosley.
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