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Did Drake kill mainstream R&B?

iKingGodGivBiziKingGodGivBiz What title?Posts: 29,044 Regulator
edited February 2012 in R&B & Alternatives
Just putting it out there. I know the real R&B heads will always be hip to it, but in the mainstream area, a guy like Chris Brown can be on 5 hits and still barely survive it seems... Ne Yo gone.. Dream was a fad... Trey Songz barely alive... Lloyd who... people talk about WeekNd and Frank Ocean but outside of those two it seems to have been dead for awhile or am I crazy?

Bobby Valentino and Mario where have you been?

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  • Black_SamsonBlack_Samson do 10 pushups everytime you read my post... you know you want too. Posts: 61,226 Regulator
    edited February 2012
    no Trey Songz/Jeremih did.
    followed shortly by The Dream.

    now we got The Dream/Jermih Knock-Offs in Weeknd and Frank Ocean.

    and there's a reason why bobby v's star burnt out fast.
    give it a few more years homie, you'll hear what i hear and go what the fuck?
    if i were an FBI Agent tasked with monitoring a forum, I'd post random pictures and watch the reactions of the people.
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  • It starting dying a long time ago, with Chris Brown then Omarion then the names mentioned above - Come and goer's Jeremiah [fuck how u spell his name], and then Bobby Valentino , T Pain, blah blah, blah, blah. I do think J Holiday's got a standard vocal, though
  • thefabmd2dcthefabmd2dc Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well Chris Brown is kinda the main guy again now so if anyone killed it, it has to be him.
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  • red_ahhred_ahh Posts: 68 ✭✭
    KingGivBiz wrote:
    Just putting it out there. I know the real R&B heads will always be hip to it, but in the mainstream area, a guy like Chris Brown can be on 5 hits and still barely survive it seems... Ne Yo gone.. Dream was a fad... Trey Songz barely alive... Lloyd who... people talk about WeekNd and Frank Ocean but outside of those two it seems to have been dead for awhile or am I crazy?

    Bobby Valentino and Mario where have you been?



    drake isnt R&B so how did he kill it.
  • 03silverB03silverB Posts: 3
    this is just my opinion, but i think the industry systematically killed off R&B in the 90's. i remember growing up in dallas before our stations changed (for some reason) from R&B/pop and a little hiphop, to pop/hiphop and a little R&B. we went into the millennium, and saw even less of the old genre, even though neo-soul was on the rise. today, only the oldie stations play the classics, modern R&B and neo-soul now.

    there are still some artists (young and old) who are trying to keep R&B alive. we still have maxwell, jill scott, john legend, chrisette michele, r.kelly, etc. the sad thing is, when their albums drop and if they are lucky enough, maybe one of their singles get played on the local radio station, but that's about it. we don't get over saturated with the good music like we do with this mindless, sex latent, rhythm & blues/rap hybrid stuff.

    some of the names already posted in this thread, don't even fall into the R&b category. the industry seems like it is only interested in pushing out the next black pop sensation at the risk of killing off what's left of R&B.

    once again, this is just my opinion.


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  • StillFaggyAFStillFaggyAF Queer LGBT CommunityPosts: 40,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
    r&b became to close to other genres, what people call r&b is hardly r&b any more

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  • angrymanincangrymaninc Posts: 657 ✭✭✭
    TheJamel wrote:
    no Trey Songz/Jeremih did.
    followed shortly by The Dream.

    now we got The Dream/Jermih Knock-Offs in Weeknd and Frank Ocean.

    and there's a reason why bobby v's star burnt out fast.
    give it a few more years homie, you'll hear what i hear and go what the fuck?

    i agree with everything except for trey songz... originally trey songz didn't have a generic sound but he wasn't blowing up to the point he has now... noticed the way the game was changing and changed his image but he does have skills though... now as far as them other cats go fuk em all n/h lol
  • Wild SelfWild Self Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2012
    R&B merely reflects the relationships of men and women these days: pure, real, basic sexual relations. Everyone is out there clubbing to have one night stands nowadays.
    Bawse D.Lox
  • tab58064tab58064 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭
    KingGivBiz wrote:
    Just putting it out there. I know the real R&B heads will always be hip to it, but in the mainstream area, a guy like Chris Brown can be on 5 hits and still barely survive it seems... Ne Yo gone.. Dream was a fad... Trey Songz barely alive... Lloyd who... people talk about WeekNd and Frank Ocean but outside of those two it seems to have been dead for awhile or am I crazy?

    Bobby Valentino and Mario where have you been?
    Bobby-V has been putting out some lackluster stuff IMO lately. It seems that he's reducing his talents to fit with what's hot right now from artists who are weak. Drake has managed to fit into the RnB mix, but how & why.....he can't sing but in one key!! This shit is because of a bunch of confused dumb-down kids and adults with childish minds who fall for whatever radio, BET, etc tells them is hot. It's sad to see this RnB in such a terrible state. There are great artist out there, but they can't get any burn because everything has to be crossed with hip-hop.

  • Knives AmilliKnives Amilli Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    KingGivBiz wrote:
    Just putting it out there. I know the real R&B heads will always be hip to it, but in the mainstream area, a guy like Chris Brown can be on 5 hits and still barely survive it seems... Ne Yo gone.. Dream was a fad... Trey Songz barely alive... Lloyd who... people talk about WeekNd and Frank Ocean but outside of those two it seems to have been dead for awhile or am I crazy?

    Bobby Valentino and Mario where have you been?

    Solo RnB artist in the "performance" and "touring" age aren't going to do to well if they aren't able to have the total experience. You gotta have the singles, the pipes, and the choreography/sex appeal to stand out.

    But I gotta disagree tho..Breezy's career got resurrected by Deuces and FAME did extremely well off of the strength of the Yeah 3x and Look At Me Now. Ne-Yo's last album was like his only dud so far and thats because Stargate didn't do the majority of the work. Trey has been doing really well these last two albums. Lloyd and The Dream are the only arguable fall offs and the Dreams 1977 mixtape was highly lauded + he's still doing song writing for high profile artists like Beyonce.
  • iKingGodGivBiziKingGodGivBiz What title? Posts: 29,044 Regulator
    edited February 2012
    you know when i want a smooth R&B track these days other than Chris brown or Trey Songz it always ends up being a Drake song, unless I'm really hip on another artist song at the time. You used to have this song and this song from all these acts, now the R&B landscape just seems dry. this is the reason why I made this thread in the first place.


    And alot of R&B "acts" have gone to the techno, house, euro... or pop sound.. so i agree about the genre of R&B not even being R&B anymore... Usher & at times Chris Brown too.

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  • Wild SelfWild Self Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭✭✭
    KingGivBiz wrote:
    you know when i want a smooth R&B track these days other than Chris brown or Trey Songz it always ends up being a Drake song, unless I'm really hip on another artist song at the time. You used to have this song and this song from all these acts, now the R&B landscape just seems dry. this is the reason why I made this thread in the first place.


    And alot of R&B "acts" have gone to the techno, house, euro... or pop sound.. so i agree about the genre of R&B not even being R&B anymore... Usher & at times Chris Brown too.


    Them days are gone. Old school R & B is too slow and people are just super fast paced.
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  • dalyricalbanditdalyricalbandit Co-Owner Of AllhipHop.com, Super Moderator, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 66,844 Regulator
    usher could still do him but he to busy doing bep records
  • 704Hustla704Hustla Posts: 838 ✭✭✭
    lol @ the dream already falling off..shit is funny..it look like r&b is considered an older folks genre now all the young talent that would've been in r&b are now doin techno,autotune and all..its not looking to good right now
  • Bawse D.LoxBawse D.Lox Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    KingGivBiz wrote:
    Just putting it out there. I know the real R&B heads will always be hip to it, but in the mainstream area, a guy like Chris Brown can be on 5 hits and still barely survive it seems... Ne Yo gone.. Dream was a fad... Trey Songz barely alive... Lloyd who... people talk about WeekNd and Frank Ocean but outside of those two it seems to have been dead for awhile or am I crazy?

    Bobby Valentino and Mario where have you been?

    Solo RnB artist in the "performance" and "touring" age aren't going to do to well if they aren't able to have the total experience. You gotta have the singles, the pipes, and the choreography/sex appeal to stand out.

    But I gotta disagree tho..Breezy's career got resurrected by Deuces and FAME did extremely well off of the strength of the Yeah 3x and Look At Me Now. Ne-Yo's last album was like his only dud so far and thats because Stargate didn't do the majority of the work. Trey has been doing really well these last two albums. Lloyd and The Dream are the only arguable fall offs and the Dreams 1977 mixtape was highly lauded + he's still doing song writing for high profile artists like Beyonce.

    so is Ne-Yo
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  • Black_SamsonBlack_Samson do 10 pushups everytime you read my post... you know you want too. Posts: 61,226 Regulator
    Lloyd problem is he dont know if he want to sound like MJ or not...

    fuck it nigga was blessed with that type of voice, he needs to keep making them "Street Love" albums and stop making this technopop...

    Street Love was Lloyd masterpiece.
    if i were an FBI Agent tasked with monitoring a forum, I'd post random pictures and watch the reactions of the people.
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