Trayvon Martin Case.... the plot thickens

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  • CopperCopper Posts: 22,597
    fiat_money wrote: »
    fiat_money wrote: »
    well its funny how all the other witnessess saw something different when they were on the phone with the cops but the police only interviewed the one man who saw something completeley opposite...
    Well, the fine-ass white bitch and company said they only saw Zimmerman after the shooting.

    I think this is one of the only to purportedly have visually witnessed the "altercation" leading up to the shooting.

    There may be others though:
    Witnesses told ABC News a fistfight broke out and, at one point, Zimmerman, who outweighed Martin by more than 100 pounds, was on the ground and that Martin was on top.

    nah one chick on cnn the latina I think said she saw martin on the ground and zimmerman standing over him
    also all the witnessess that have stories contradicting zimmermans and the police have all said they have been ignored when they called the police station and left thier numbers for interviews
    But that occurred after the gunshot right?

    What someone saw after the gunshot that ended the "fight" wouldn't contradict what someone else before the the gunshot that ended the "fight".

    nah...from her story she said she saw them tussling on the lawn and she was yelling at them "whats going on"
  • Sneak DissaSneak Dissa Posts: 3,504
    Oh i suppose now it's his fault for not letting the grown 200+ lb. man that stalked and attacked him kick his ass before he got murdered.

    FOH
  • fiat_moneyfiat_money Posts: 16,671
    fiat_money wrote: »
    fiat_money wrote: »
    well its funny how all the other witnessess saw something different when they were on the phone with the cops but the police only interviewed the one man who saw something completeley opposite...
    Well, the fine-ass white bitch and company said they only saw Zimmerman after the shooting.

    I think this is one of the only to purportedly have visually witnessed the "altercation" leading up to the shooting.

    There may be others though:
    Witnesses told ABC News a fistfight broke out and, at one point, Zimmerman, who outweighed Martin by more than 100 pounds, was on the ground and that Martin was on top.

    nah one chick on cnn the latina I think said she saw martin on the ground and zimmerman standing over him
    also all the witnessess that have stories contradicting zimmermans and the police have all said they have been ignored when they called the police station and left thier numbers for interviews
    But that occurred after the gunshot right?

    What someone saw after the gunshot that ended the "fight" wouldn't contradict what someone else before the the gunshot that ended the "fight".

    nah...from her story she said she saw them tussling on the lawn and she was yelling at them "whats going on"
    Yeh, that was after he got shot:
    At least two witnesses heard the sound of someone mourning just outside their door. One of the witnesses went to their back door and ask George Zimmerman, “What’s going on?” Zimmerman was still pressing against Martin’s back. Zimmerman did not respond until she asks him for the third time, “What’s going on?”

    Unless there was a different witness yelling "What's going on?" at them.
  • BlackGeraldBlackGerald Posts: 12,856
    All the way back on February 27th, the local Orlando Fox station interviewed the witness who dialed 911. Almost none of the thousands of articles since have mentioned any of the details described by the witness. Some, however, have attributed false statements to this witness. On March 16th, the Sanford police department released new details to the Orlando Sentinel. Once again, these details have been ignored or changed by the media.

    The witness reports that George Zimmerman was on the ground and Trayvon is on top of him punching him.
    The witness says that George Zimmerman was screaming and yelling for help.
    Police arrive and find Zimmerman bleeding on his face and the back of his head. He also has had grass stains on his back. All this confirms the story told by Zimmerman and the witness.
    Police play the 911 tape for Trayvon Martin's father, who tells police that the voice screaming is not the voice of his son.

    The neighborhood this took place in has seen a lot of crime. Would you be surprised to learn that there were eight burglaries, nine thefts, and a shooting just in the past year? In fact, the local homeowners' association reports that George Zimmerman actually caught one thief and aided in the apprehension of other criminals. The Miami Herald wrote about this on March 17th. None of the thousands of articles and cable news segments that came after, thought this was important.

    In fact the Miami Herald goes on to interview neighbor, Ibrahim Rashada, who is black. Rashada ​confirms that there has been a lot of crime in the neighborhood and indicates to the reporter that the perpetrators are usually black.

    Continue reading on Examiner.com Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin - Charleston Charleston Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/zimmerman-was-on-the-ground-being-punched-when-he-shot-trayvon-martin#ixzz1pz37PAfs


    i give no fucks if Zimmerman caught anyone, white black or yellow. Martin was doing nothing illegal.

    Read this:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/anderson-cooper-interviews-witnesses-to-trayvon-martin-shooting/

    “So you heard some sort of whining, some sort of commotion outside?” Cooper asked.

    “We were in the kitchen, with the window open and the blinds pulled. So we had complete view from outside,” Cutcher explained.

    Cooper asked her what was the first thing she saw.

    “By that time, you hear like a shot — like some other noise,” Lamilla described.

    “You heard the gunshot?” Cooper interjected.

    “Yeah, I run away from my backyard and when I just get into the point of my — like my screen, it stopped me, I look at the person on his knees on top of a body,” Lamilla elaborated.

    RELATED: Lawrence O’Donnell On Zimmerman 911 Tape: ‘I Believe What We Have Here Is Evidence Of A Police Cover-Up’

    “So you saw Mr. Zimmerman on top of Trayvon Martin?” Cooper questioned.

    “Trayvon, exactly,” Lamilla said.

    “When you say on top of, how so?” the CNN anchor pressed.

    “Straddling him,” Cutcher replied.

    “His legs were straddling him?” Cooper followed up.

    “One on each side, on his knees, with his hands on his back. I immediately thought, okay, obviously if it’s the shooter, he would have ran,” Cutcher detailed. “I thought he’s holding the wound, helping the guy taking a pulse, making sure he’s okay. When she called to him three times, everything okay, what’s going on? Each time he looked back, didn’t say anything and then the third time he finally said, ‘just call the police.’”

    “But at that time it was so dark,” Lamilla added. “I just saw this person. When she started calling the police, I saw Zimmerman walking with — touching like his hair, like kind of like confused back and forth to the body.”

    Lamilla and Cutcher described Zimmerman pacing around the body, following the shooting, and disputed that there was any indication of a fight.
    kingblaze84
  • desertrain10desertrain10 Posts: 2,034
    Oh i suppose now it's his fault for not letting the grown 200+ lb. man that stalked and attacked him kick his ass before he got murdered.

    FOH

    right...

    shame on trayvon for possibly fearing for his life...


  • Sneak DissaSneak Dissa Posts: 3,504
    fiat_money wrote: »
    lol - so there's a mystery witness nobody ever heard of who all of a sudden just appears and corroborates the police story?

    i wonder if the sandford p.d. is holding open casting calls right now.
    A witness is still a witness without doing TV interviews yo; there may be others who only gave statements to the police.

    The ABC story mentioned such witnesses about a week ago:
    Trayvon Martin Neighborhood Watch Shooting: 911 Tapes Send Mom Crying From Room

    To be honest this whole case was fucking botched by the police that if they ever do arrest this guy and bring him to trial his lawyer is going to have a lot of wiggle-room to get that shit thrown out.

    The police never really had an interest in witnesses since they never intended to do an investigation or make an arrest.
  • CopperCopper Posts: 22,597
    imagine a black man running around a gated community with a gun and shot a 17 year old white kid in the chest holding a bag of candy....lol....they wouldve had that nigga in interrogation room within that hour threating him with the death penalty
    playmaker88BlackGeraldidoitforhiphop10
  • fiat_moneyfiat_money Posts: 16,671
    edited March 2012
    fiat_money wrote: »
    lol - so there's a mystery witness nobody ever heard of who all of a sudden just appears and corroborates the police story?

    i wonder if the sandford p.d. is holding open casting calls right now.
    A witness is still a witness without doing TV interviews yo; there may be others who only gave statements to the police.

    The ABC story mentioned such witnesses about a week ago:
    Trayvon Martin Neighborhood Watch Shooting: 911 Tapes Send Mom Crying From Room

    To be honest this whole case was fucking botched by the police that if they ever do arrest this guy and bring him to trial his lawyer is going to have a lot of wiggle-room to get that shit thrown out.

    The police never really had an interest in witnesses since they never intended to do an investigation or make an arrest.
    I think Zimmerman initiated the fight, got his ass beat, and shot Treyvon. When the police got there; there was visible evidence that Zimmerman had just had his shit handed to him, and a witness(es) who confirmed they saw Zimmerman getting the beatdown. At this point, all Zimmerman--who police were familiar with and knew he was on the neighborhood watch--had to do was get the police to think that he was simply out performing his "duty" when attacked by Treyvon.

    So with evidence of an ass beating, a witness to an ass beating, and nothing suggesting Zimmerman (who they were positively biased toward) was the aggressor at the time; they concluded that this fell under the "stand your ground" law.
  • apocalypticaapocalyptica Posts: 179
    edited March 2012
  • apocalypticaapocalyptica Posts: 179
    edited March 2012
  • CopperCopper Posts: 22,597
    bruh..what are those pics proving?
    and the police have already been caught changing reports of what happened that night
    BlackGeraldidoitforhiphop10Trillaaaaaa
  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Posts: 6,316
    All the way back on February 27th, the local Orlando Fox station interviewed the witness who dialed 911. Almost none of the thousands of articles since have mentioned any of the details described by the witness. Some, however, have attributed false statements to this witness. On March 16th, the Sanford police department released new details to the Orlando Sentinel. Once again, these details have been ignored or changed by the media.

    The witness reports that George Zimmerman was on the ground and Trayvon is on top of him punching him.
    The witness says that George Zimmerman was screaming and yelling for help.
    Police arrive and find Zimmerman bleeding on his face and the back of his head. He also has had grass stains on his back. All this confirms the story told by Zimmerman and the witness.
    Police play the 911 tape for Trayvon Martin's father, who tells police that the voice screaming is not the voice of his son.

    The neighborhood this took place in has seen a lot of crime. Would you be surprised to learn that there were eight burglaries, nine thefts, and a shooting just in the past year? In fact, the local homeowners' association reports that George Zimmerman actually caught one thief and aided in the apprehension of other criminals. The Miami Herald wrote about this on March 17th. None of the thousands of articles and cable news segments that came after, thought this was important.

    In fact the Miami Herald goes on to interview neighbor, Ibrahim Rashada, who is black. Rashada ​confirms that there has been a lot of crime in the neighborhood and indicates to the reporter that the perpetrators are usually black.

    Continue reading on Examiner.com Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin - Charleston Charleston Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/zimmerman-was-on-the-ground-being-punched-when-he-shot-trayvon-martin#ixzz1pz37PAfs


    There are witnesses that say Zimmerman was on top of the boy and straddling him when the shot was made. In either case, even if the boy was beating Zimmerman, why was he stalking the boy? Why was he following him if he wasn't committing a crime?? In fact the police told Zimmerman to NOT FOLLOW THE GUY. Zimmerman followed him ANYWAY. Zimmerman needs to be arrested and charged as soon as possible. Otherwise, I support street justice 100%.

    313 wayz
  • playmaker88playmaker88 Posts: 33,751
    edited March 2012
    imagine a black man running around a gated community with a gun and shot a 17 year old white kid in the chest holding a bag of candy....lol....they wouldve had that nigga in interrogation room within that hour threating him with the death penalty

    Its really as simple as that,
    When it comes to white people they always lets get the whole "story" (Everything besides what actually happened then and there)

    or when white people kill.. Its why.. "what went wrong",lets study and empathize..
    kingblaze84miamivice305
  • Cain1Cain1 Posts: 16,644
    edited March 2012
    THE DISPATCHER SAID STAY IN THE CAR

    TRAYVON WAS USING THE STAND YOUR GROUND LAW TO DEFEND HIMSELF AGAINST ZIMMERMAN

    ZIMMERMAN WILL GET THE LIFE OR DEATH PENALTY

    STOP GETTING TROLLED
  • CopperCopper Posts: 22,597
    media never said his hieght or wieght...apocalypto in here trolling
  • playmaker88playmaker88 Posts: 33,751
    edited March 2012
    Cain Marko wrote: »
    THE DISPATCHER SAID STAY IN THE CAR

    TRAYVON WAS USING THE STAND YOUR GROUND LAW TO DEFEND HIMSELF AGAINST ZIMMERMAN

    ZIMMERMAN WILL GET THE LIFE OR DEATH PENALTY
    STOP GETTING TROLLED

    Seriously doubt it..

    and trolls are wack corny and attentioned stared
  • BlackGeraldBlackGerald Posts: 12,856
    All the way back on February 27th, the local Orlando Fox station interviewed the witness who dialed 911. Almost none of the thousands of articles since have mentioned any of the details described by the witness. Some, however, have attributed false statements to this witness. On March 16th, the Sanford police department released new details to the Orlando Sentinel. Once again, these details have been ignored or changed by the media.

    The witness reports that George Zimmerman was on the ground and Trayvon is on top of him punching him.
    The witness says that George Zimmerman was screaming and yelling for help.
    Police arrive and find Zimmerman bleeding on his face and the back of his head. He also has had grass stains on his back. All this confirms the story told by Zimmerman and the witness.
    Police play the 911 tape for Trayvon Martin's father, who tells police that the voice screaming is not the voice of his son.

    The neighborhood this took place in has seen a lot of crime. Would you be surprised to learn that there were eight burglaries, nine thefts, and a shooting just in the past year? In fact, the local homeowners' association reports that George Zimmerman actually caught one thief and aided in the apprehension of other criminals. The Miami Herald wrote about this on March 17th. None of the thousands of articles and cable news segments that came after, thought this was important.

    In fact the Miami Herald goes on to interview neighbor, Ibrahim Rashada, who is black. Rashada ​confirms that there has been a lot of crime in the neighborhood and indicates to the reporter that the perpetrators are usually black.

    Continue reading on Examiner.com Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin - Charleston Charleston Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/zimmerman-was-on-the-ground-being-punched-when-he-shot-trayvon-martin#ixzz1pz37PAfs


    i give no fucks if Zimmerman caught anyone, white black or yellow. Martin was doing nothing illegal.

    Read this:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/anderson-cooper-interviews-witnesses-to-trayvon-martin-shooting/

    “So you heard some sort of whining, some sort of commotion outside?” Cooper asked.

    “We were in the kitchen, with the window open and the blinds pulled. So we had complete view from outside,” Cutcher explained.

    Cooper asked her what was the first thing she saw.

    “By that time, you hear like a shot — like some other noise,” Lamilla described.

    “You heard the gunshot?” Cooper interjected.

    “Yeah, I run away from my backyard and when I just get into the point of my — like my screen, it stopped me, I look at the person on his knees on top of a body,” Lamilla elaborated.

    RELATED: Lawrence O’Donnell On Zimmerman 911 Tape: ‘I Believe What We Have Here Is Evidence Of A Police Cover-Up’

    “So you saw Mr. Zimmerman on top of Trayvon Martin?” Cooper questioned.

    “Trayvon, exactly,” Lamilla said.

    “When you say on top of, how so?” the CNN anchor pressed.

    “Straddling him,” Cutcher replied.

    “His legs were straddling him?” Cooper followed up.

    “One on each side, on his knees, with his hands on his back. I immediately thought, okay, obviously if it’s the shooter, he would have ran,” Cutcher detailed. “I thought he’s holding the wound, helping the guy taking a pulse, making sure he’s okay. When she called to him three times, everything okay, what’s going on? Each time he looked back, didn’t say anything and then the third time he finally said, ‘just call the police.’”

    “But at that time it was so dark,” Lamilla added. “I just saw this person. When she started calling the police, I saw Zimmerman walking with — touching like his hair, like kind of like confused back and forth to the body.”

    Lamilla and Cutcher described Zimmerman pacing around the body, following the shooting, and disputed that there was any indication of a fight.
    This woman didn't see what happened. All she SAW was zimmerman on top after hearing a shot. She did not see the shot, she heard it. Afterwards Zimmerman could of been on top of Trayvon as he rolled off of him when he died.I wouldn't think he would run after getting into an altercation, firing his weapon, and killing someone. In fact that is what you expect a criminal to do. He more likely would stand around freaking out he just killed someone which seems like whath appened.

    I'll take the witness who saw what happened before the gunshot word over this woman. Secondly, according to the police she gave a different account before she went to the media. One guy gives an account before the media circus and publicity and then these women come out after the media circus. Who do you think is going to be more up front about what happened?

    By the way, someone found his Twitpic account last night and found some more pictures of the "little bright eyed boy" that we keep seeing in the media. He has some heft to his body frame that again, if him and zimmerman got into a fight he had the potential to put some hurt on zimmerman.

    33m91tf.jpg
    14w4p6w.jpg

    Kind of a desperate attempt to garner more sympathy because they know they can't get as much publicity and mourners for a drug dealing future drop out.

    Prove he is a drug dealer...i'll wait.
    nobody but a guy named 'john", which no video of exist saw what happened. sounds legit.
    You must have been there since you know exactly what Zimmerman did.
    I also see you failed to mention the crying for help as well as ignoring how Zimmerman eventually was on top when he shot him. Because the big bad drug dealer was so big and strong why didn't he just beat up Zimmerman and leave?

    Face it, your big brother Zimmerman is a coward, racist cunt who deserved to be jailed.
  • apocalypticaapocalyptica Posts: 179
    edited March 2012
  • DoubleteeDoubletee Posts: 16,895
    imagine a black man running around a gated community with a gun and shot a 17 year old white kid in the chest holding a bag of candy....lol....they wouldve had that nigga in interrogation room within that hour threating him with the death penalty

    Its really as simple as that,
    When it comes to white people they always lets get the whole "story" (Everything besides what actually happened then and there)

    or when white people kill.. Its why.. "what went wrong",lets study and empathize..

    Lol...you should see the comments on yahoo...all the white people starting off saying its not about race...and race doesnt matter...yet if it was a black guy who shot a white kid/asian kid they wouldve been saying a black man killed somebody.etc
  • desertrain10desertrain10 Posts: 2,034
    fiat_money wrote: »
    fiat_money wrote: »
    lol - so there's a mystery witness nobody ever heard of who all of a sudden just appears and corroborates the police story?

    i wonder if the sandford p.d. is holding open casting calls right now.
    A witness is still a witness without doing TV interviews yo; there may be others who only gave statements to the police.

    The ABC story mentioned such witnesses about a week ago:
    Trayvon Martin Neighborhood Watch Shooting: 911 Tapes Send Mom Crying From Room

    To be honest this whole case was fucking botched by the police that if they ever do arrest this guy and bring him to trial his lawyer is going to have a lot of wiggle-room to get that shit thrown out.

    The police never really had an interest in witnesses since they never intended to do an investigation or make an arrest.
    I think Zimmerman initiated the fight, got his ass beat, and shot Treyvon. When the police got there; there was visible evidence that Zimmerman had just had his shit handed to him, and a witness(es) who confirmed they saw Zimmerman getting the beatdown. At this point, all Zimmerman--who police were familiar with and knew he was on the neighborhood watch--had to do was get the police to think that he was simply out performing his "duty" when attacked by Treyvon.

    So with evidence of an ass beating, a witness to an ass beating, and nothing suggesting Zimmerman (who they were positively biased toward) was the aggressor at the time; they concluded that this fell under the "stand your ground" law.

    but someone was killed... that alone should warrant a thorough investigation that lasted for more than a couple of hours

    zimmerman also has also been the subject of multiple complaints by neighbors for his aggressive behavior and he also has a history of domestic violence and of resisting arrest...

  • CopperCopper Posts: 22,597
    bruh..what are those pics proving?
    and the police have already been caught changing reports of what happened that night

    They're being posted because people are finding them and realize that this narrative that the media is pushing that this kid had NOTHING about him that could make him seem suspicious is B.S. They know by pushing these photos of him at 12 and 13 on the public is an attempt to create the narrative this was a sweet innocent wouldn't hurt a fly in the world. Its just disgusting and manipulative.

    Here is what most likely happen when you take all the emotionally charged bullshit and media circus out of the whole equation. Yes Zimmerman most likely profiled him because his hoodie and being black. However, his description fit the profile of robbery suspects in the area. He became overzealous and chased him down to find out what he was up to however this is not a crime. When he confronted Trayvon, Trayvon reacted how I think anyone would act which is ask him why he was following him. They somehow end up in a confrontation however Trayvon went overboard and was probably trying to beat the living shit out of him. It got to a point where Zimmerman either can let him beat him unconscious or to death or defend himself. End of story.

    I find this more probable as we find out that he isn't this quiet suburbanite kid like the media is portraying him to be but most likely your typical ghetto culture following thug wannabe and anyone without bias in favor that culture will tell you that people who typically follow it are quick to anger and violence at the slightest thought of being disrespected.

    In short, the media and people protesting are full of shit and doing it to manipulate public sentiment.

    pure speculation....stupid unfounded speculation
    really ? really ? the nigga that was pursued for no reason by an adult with a loaded gun went overboard.
    now trayvon is a wanna be thug thats quick to anger?
    you got all this from him being shot in the chest?
  • BlackGeraldBlackGerald Posts: 12,856
    bruh..what are those pics proving?
    and the police have already been caught changing reports of what happened that night

    They're being posted because people are finding them and realize that this narrative that the media is pushing that this kid had NOTHING about him that could make him seem suspicious is B.S. They know by pushing these photos of him at 12 and 13 on the public is an attempt to create the narrative this was a sweet innocent wouldn't hurt a fly in the world. Its just disgusting and manipulative.

    Here is what most likely happen when you take all the emotionally charged bullshit and media circus out of the whole equation. Yes Zimmerman most likely profiled him because his hoodie and being black. However, his description fit the profile of robbery suspects in the area. He became overzealous and chased him down to find out what he was up to however this is not a crime. When he confronted Trayvon, Trayvon reacted how I think anyone would act which is ask him why he was following him. They somehow end up in a confrontation however Trayvon went overboard and was probably trying to beat the living shit out of him. It got to a point where Zimmerman either can let him beat him unconscious or to death or defend himself. End of story.

    I find this more probable as we find out that he isn't this quiet suburbanite kid like the media is portraying him to be but most likely your typical ghetto culture following thug wannabe and anyone without bias in favor that culture will tell you that people who typically follow it are quick to anger and violence at the slightest thought of being disrespected.

    In short, the media and people protesting are full of shit and doing it to manipulate public sentiment.

    you have no evidence to support anyof that.

    I know you celebrate when black people die but keep your racist faggot ass off this forum
    apocalypticakingblaze84
  • All the way back on February 27th, the local Orlando Fox station interviewed the witness who dialed 911. Almost none of the thousands of articles since have mentioned any of the details described by the witness. Some, however, have attributed false statements to this witness. On March 16th, the Sanford police department released new details to the Orlando Sentinel. Once again, these details have been ignored or changed by the media.

    The witness reports that George Zimmerman was on the ground and Trayvon is on top of him punching him.
    The witness says that George Zimmerman was screaming and yelling for help.
    Police arrive and find Zimmerman bleeding on his face and the back of his head. He also has had grass stains on his back. All this confirms the story told by Zimmerman and the witness.
    Police play the 911 tape for Trayvon Martin's father, who tells police that the voice screaming is not the voice of his son.

    The neighborhood this took place in has seen a lot of crime. Would you be surprised to learn that there were eight burglaries, nine thefts, and a shooting just in the past year? In fact, the local homeowners' association reports that George Zimmerman actually caught one thief and aided in the apprehension of other criminals. The Miami Herald wrote about this on March 17th. None of the thousands of articles and cable news segments that came after, thought this was important.

    In fact the Miami Herald goes on to interview neighbor, Ibrahim Rashada, who is black. Rashada ​confirms that there has been a lot of crime in the neighborhood and indicates to the reporter that the perpetrators are usually black.

    Continue reading on Examiner.com Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin - Charleston Charleston Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/zimmerman-was-on-the-ground-being-punched-when-he-shot-trayvon-martin#ixzz1pz37PAfs


    i give no fucks if Zimmerman caught anyone, white black or yellow. Martin was doing nothing illegal.

    Read this:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/anderson-cooper-interviews-witnesses-to-trayvon-martin-shooting/

    “So you heard some sort of whining, some sort of commotion outside?” Cooper asked.

    “We were in the kitchen, with the window open and the blinds pulled. So we had complete view from outside,” Cutcher explained.

    Cooper asked her what was the first thing she saw.

    “By that time, you hear like a shot — like some other noise,” Lamilla described.

    “You heard the gunshot?” Cooper interjected.

    “Yeah, I run away from my backyard and when I just get into the point of my — like my screen, it stopped me, I look at the person on his knees on top of a body,” Lamilla elaborated.

    RELATED: Lawrence O’Donnell On Zimmerman 911 Tape: ‘I Believe What We Have Here Is Evidence Of A Police Cover-Up’

    “So you saw Mr. Zimmerman on top of Trayvon Martin?” Cooper questioned.

    “Trayvon, exactly,” Lamilla said.

    “When you say on top of, how so?” the CNN anchor pressed.

    “Straddling him,” Cutcher replied.

    “His legs were straddling him?” Cooper followed up.

    “One on each side, on his knees, with his hands on his back. I immediately thought, okay, obviously if it’s the shooter, he would have ran,” Cutcher detailed. “I thought he’s holding the wound, helping the guy taking a pulse, making sure he’s okay. When she called to him three times, everything okay, what’s going on? Each time he looked back, didn’t say anything and then the third time he finally said, ‘just call the police.’”

    “But at that time it was so dark,” Lamilla added. “I just saw this person. When she started calling the police, I saw Zimmerman walking with — touching like his hair, like kind of like confused back and forth to the body.”

    Lamilla and Cutcher described Zimmerman pacing around the body, following the shooting, and disputed that there was any indication of a fight.
    This woman didn't see what happened. All she SAW was zimmerman on top after hearing a shot. She did not see the shot, she heard it. Afterwards Zimmerman could of been on top of Trayvon as he rolled off of him when he died.I wouldn't think he would run after getting into an altercation, firing his weapon, and killing someone. In fact that is what you expect a criminal to do. He more likely would stand around freaking out he just killed someone which seems like whath appened.

    I'll take the witness who saw what happened before the gunshot word over this woman. Secondly, according to the police she gave a different account before she went to the media. One guy gives an account before the media circus and publicity and then these women come out after the media circus. Who do you think is going to be more up front about what happened?

    By the way, someone found his Twitpic account last night and found some more pictures of the "little bright eyed boy" that we keep seeing in the media. He has some heft to his body frame that again, if him and zimmerman got into a fight he had the potential to put some hurt on zimmerman.

    33m91tf.jpg
    14w4p6w.jpg

    Kind of a desperate attempt to garner more sympathy because they know they can't get as much publicity and mourners for a drug dealing future drop out.

    Prove he is a drug dealer...i'll wait.
    nobody but a guy named 'john", which no video of exist saw what happened. sounds legit.
    You must have been there since you know exactly what Zimmerman did.
    I also see you failed to mention the crying for help as well as ignoring how Zimmerman eventually was on top when he shot him. Because the big bad drug dealer was so big and strong why didn't he just beat up Zimmerman and leave?

    Face it, your big brother Zimmerman is a coward, racist cunt who deserved to be jailed.
    From Trayvon "SLIMM" facebook
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    Here is his bro reminiscing about smoking with him. So he was a dealing and user.
    Raymond Victrum
    Bra u gotta tell me wat happen yesterday I knw u didin start nuttin up dere cuz u aint knw nobody damm b ur ole boy should of took u home early sunday morning I jus seen u remember all da times we smoke n I always ask u is u gud b n say im gud lol dat waz to funny u knw we smoke one for u b we had to it was only rite damm I feel how mario feel jus keep watchn ova us b n ur name wont neva die i still dnt believe dis bt r.i.p tray
    February 27 at 9:44pm ·

    Trillaaaaaau. motion
  • fiat_moneyfiat_money Posts: 16,671
    edited March 2012
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    fiat_money wrote: »
    lol - so there's a mystery witness nobody ever heard of who all of a sudden just appears and corroborates the police story?

    i wonder if the sandford p.d. is holding open casting calls right now.
    A witness is still a witness without doing TV interviews yo; there may be others who only gave statements to the police.

    The ABC story mentioned such witnesses about a week ago:
    Trayvon Martin Neighborhood Watch Shooting: 911 Tapes Send Mom Crying From Room

    To be honest this whole case was fucking botched by the police that if they ever do arrest this guy and bring him to trial his lawyer is going to have a lot of wiggle-room to get that shit thrown out.

    The police never really had an interest in witnesses since they never intended to do an investigation or make an arrest.
    I think Zimmerman initiated the fight, got his ass beat, and shot Treyvon. When the police got there; there was visible evidence that Zimmerman had just had his shit handed to him, and a witness(es) who confirmed they saw Zimmerman getting the beatdown. At this point, all Zimmerman--who police were familiar with and knew he was on the neighborhood watch--had to do was get the police to think that he was simply out performing his "duty" when attacked by Treyvon.

    So with evidence of an ass beating, a witness to an ass beating, and nothing suggesting Zimmerman (who they were positively biased toward) was the aggressor at the time; they concluded that this fell under the "stand your ground" law.

    but someone was killed... that alone should warrant a thorough investigation that lasted for more than a couple of hours

    zimmerman also has also been the subject of multiple complaints by neighbors for his aggressive behavior and he also has a history of domestic violence and of resisting arrest...
    Sure, but the "stand your ground" law prohibits arrests of individuals that appear to meet the requirements:
    776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of
    force.—
    (1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is
    justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for
    the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law
    enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of
    his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with
    any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that
    the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal
    prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the
    defendant.

    (2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of
    force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using
    force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was
    unlawful
    ..

    They simply felt he met the requirements and had nothing suggesting that the force was unlawful at the time.
  • BlackGeraldBlackGerald Posts: 12,856
    All the way back on February 27th, the local Orlando Fox station interviewed the witness who dialed 911. Almost none of the thousands of articles since have mentioned any of the details described by the witness. Some, however, have attributed false statements to this witness. On March 16th, the Sanford police department released new details to the Orlando Sentinel. Once again, these details have been ignored or changed by the media.

    The witness reports that George Zimmerman was on the ground and Trayvon is on top of him punching him.
    The witness says that George Zimmerman was screaming and yelling for help.
    Police arrive and find Zimmerman bleeding on his face and the back of his head. He also has had grass stains on his back. All this confirms the story told by Zimmerman and the witness.
    Police play the 911 tape for Trayvon Martin's father, who tells police that the voice screaming is not the voice of his son.

    The neighborhood this took place in has seen a lot of crime. Would you be surprised to learn that there were eight burglaries, nine thefts, and a shooting just in the past year? In fact, the local homeowners' association reports that George Zimmerman actually caught one thief and aided in the apprehension of other criminals. The Miami Herald wrote about this on March 17th. None of the thousands of articles and cable news segments that came after, thought this was important.

    In fact the Miami Herald goes on to interview neighbor, Ibrahim Rashada, who is black. Rashada ​confirms that there has been a lot of crime in the neighborhood and indicates to the reporter that the perpetrators are usually black.

    Continue reading on Examiner.com Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin - Charleston Charleston Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/zimmerman-was-on-the-ground-being-punched-when-he-shot-trayvon-martin#ixzz1pz37PAfs


    i give no fucks if Zimmerman caught anyone, white black or yellow. Martin was doing nothing illegal.

    Read this:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/anderson-cooper-interviews-witnesses-to-trayvon-martin-shooting/

    “So you heard some sort of whining, some sort of commotion outside?” Cooper asked.

    “We were in the kitchen, with the window open and the blinds pulled. So we had complete view from outside,” Cutcher explained.

    Cooper asked her what was the first thing she saw.

    “By that time, you hear like a shot — like some other noise,” Lamilla described.

    “You heard the gunshot?” Cooper interjected.

    “Yeah, I run away from my backyard and when I just get into the point of my — like my screen, it stopped me, I look at the person on his knees on top of a body,” Lamilla elaborated.

    RELATED: Lawrence O’Donnell On Zimmerman 911 Tape: ‘I Believe What We Have Here Is Evidence Of A Police Cover-Up’

    “So you saw Mr. Zimmerman on top of Trayvon Martin?” Cooper questioned.

    “Trayvon, exactly,” Lamilla said.

    “When you say on top of, how so?” the CNN anchor pressed.

    “Straddling him,” Cutcher replied.

    “His legs were straddling him?” Cooper followed up.

    “One on each side, on his knees, with his hands on his back. I immediately thought, okay, obviously if it’s the shooter, he would have ran,” Cutcher detailed. “I thought he’s holding the wound, helping the guy taking a pulse, making sure he’s okay. When she called to him three times, everything okay, what’s going on? Each time he looked back, didn’t say anything and then the third time he finally said, ‘just call the police.’”

    “But at that time it was so dark,” Lamilla added. “I just saw this person. When she started calling the police, I saw Zimmerman walking with — touching like his hair, like kind of like confused back and forth to the body.”

    Lamilla and Cutcher described Zimmerman pacing around the body, following the shooting, and disputed that there was any indication of a fight.
    This woman didn't see what happened. All she SAW was zimmerman on top after hearing a shot. She did not see the shot, she heard it. Afterwards Zimmerman could of been on top of Trayvon as he rolled off of him when he died.I wouldn't think he would run after getting into an altercation, firing his weapon, and killing someone. In fact that is what you expect a criminal to do. He more likely would stand around freaking out he just killed someone which seems like whath appened.

    I'll take the witness who saw what happened before the gunshot word over this woman. Secondly, according to the police she gave a different account before she went to the media. One guy gives an account before the media circus and publicity and then these women come out after the media circus. Who do you think is going to be more up front about what happened?

    By the way, someone found his Twitpic account last night and found some more pictures of the "little bright eyed boy" that we keep seeing in the media. He has some heft to his body frame that again, if him and zimmerman got into a fight he had the potential to put some hurt on zimmerman.

    33m91tf.jpg
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    Kind of a desperate attempt to garner more sympathy because they know they can't get as much publicity and mourners for a drug dealing future drop out.

    Prove he is a drug dealer...i'll wait.
    nobody but a guy named 'john", which no video of exist saw what happened. sounds legit.
    You must have been there since you know exactly what Zimmerman did.
    I also see you failed to mention the crying for help as well as ignoring how Zimmerman eventually was on top when he shot him. Because the big bad drug dealer was so big and strong why didn't he just beat up Zimmerman and leave?

    Face it, your big brother Zimmerman is a coward, racist cunt who deserved to be jailed.
    From Trayvon "SLIMM" facebook
    aow96d.jpg

    Here is his bro reminiscing about smoking with him. So he was a dealing and user.
    Raymond Victrum
    Bra u gotta tell me wat happen yesterday I knw u didin start nuttin up dere cuz u aint knw nobody damm b ur ole boy should of took u home early sunday morning I jus seen u remember all da times we smoke n I always ask u is u gud b n say im gud lol dat waz to funny u knw we smoke one for u b we had to it was only rite damm I feel how mario feel jus keep watchn ova us b n ur name wont neva die i still dnt believe dis bt r.i.p tray
    February 27 at 9:44pm ·

    that doesn't prove he is a drug dealer. try again.
    apocalypticaTrillaaaaaa
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