2008 NBA draft>>>>>>>>>>2003 NBA draft

TheIraq

Did you say Mo Williams??????

t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088

nycest_1 wrote: »

Throwed Off Axel wrote:

nycest_1 wrote: »

DaBull wrote:

for the last 7 years, people have debated if the 03 draft deserved to be put up on the GOAT draft classes that include 84 (Hakeem, MJ, Barkley) and 96 (Kobe, nash, Ray-Ray, AI) but its now time to acknowledge that 2008 class crushes that 2003 draft and in time will be on the level of 1984 and 1996. Check out the top 10 (IMO) from each and then speak on it

2003 draft:
Lebron
Wade
Bosh
Melo
mo williams
Chris kaman
David West
Kirk Hinrich
tj ford
Michael Pietrus

2008 draft
Rose
Westbrook
K Love
Ibaka
Roy Hibbert
OJ Mayo
Danillo Gallanari
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
DeAndre Jordan

brook is shit
dandre is shit
eric gordon = mo williams
chris kaman > roy hibbert
david west > serge ibaka (so far, but i like ibaka's jumper)
oj mayo is mad sometimesy
gallinari might be suttin but the jury is still out as to whether he'll be more than a role player

so you pretty much only got rose, westbrook and kevin love vs lebron wade bosh and melo
with the exception of rose i don't think any of them dudes are drafted ahead of those 4

lmao gtfoh wit the bolded man

brook lopez has either been injured or avg 17 and 7 rebounds per game
i guess that mediocre line isn't shit *mind you he's on the nets as a second option, some games 1st

dandre jordan is dj mbenga that can speak english
oh my fault his averages of 5 pts 6 rebounds and 1.5 blocks isn't shit. those are all star numbers. fuck outta here with niggaz buyin into that lob city marketing campaign

roy hibbert
Career 278 24.0 4.5-9.3 .480 0.0-0.0 .273 2.1-2.9 .724 6.2 1.6 1.6 0.4 3.2 1.7 11.0

chris kaman
Career 532 29.7 4.9-10.1 .482 0.0-0.0 .000 2.1-2.9 .740 8.3 1.4 1.4 0.5 2.9 2.3 11.9

umm statistically they are similar but the edge does go to kaman.
or is this somehow impossible to digest cuz hes a balding white boy?

i'll take the argument that eric gordon is better than mo williams but they pretty much play the same role on whatever team they are on.

eric gordon has more potential yeah but hasn't done much more

How you gonna use stats as your reason for someone being better if the stats are similar despite one player still getting better and the other player maxing out his potential....

CopperKing

yeah the 08 class have more talent...

smh @ chris kaman lookin like he was part of the 84 draft

TheIraq

t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088 wrote: »

nycest_1 wrote: »

Throwed Off Axel wrote:

nycest_1 wrote: »

DaBull wrote:

for the last 7 years, people have debated if the 03 draft deserved to be put up on the GOAT draft classes that include 84 (Hakeem, MJ, Barkley) and 96 (Kobe, nash, Ray-Ray, AI) but its now time to acknowledge that 2008 class crushes that 2003 draft and in time will be on the level of 1984 and 1996. Check out the top 10 (IMO) from each and then speak on it

2003 draft:
Lebron
Wade
Bosh
Melo
mo williams
Chris kaman
David West
Kirk Hinrich
tj ford
Michael Pietrus

2008 draft
Rose
Westbrook
K Love
Ibaka
Roy Hibbert
OJ Mayo
Danillo Gallanari
Eric Gordon
Brook Lopez
DeAndre Jordan

brook is shit
dandre is shit
eric gordon = mo williams
chris kaman > roy hibbert
david west > serge ibaka (so far, but i like ibaka's jumper)
oj mayo is mad sometimesy
gallinari might be suttin but the jury is still out as to whether he'll be more than a role player

so you pretty much only got rose, westbrook and kevin love vs lebron wade bosh and melo
with the exception of rose i don't think any of them dudes are drafted ahead of those 4

lmao gtfoh wit the bolded man

brook lopez has either been injured or avg 17 and 7 rebounds per game
i guess that mediocre line isn't shit *mind you he's on the nets as a second option, some games 1st

dandre jordan is dj mbenga that can speak english
oh my fault his averages of 5 pts 6 rebounds and 1.5 blocks isn't shit. those are all star numbers. fuck outta here with niggaz buyin into that lob city marketing campaign

roy hibbert
Career 278 24.0 4.5-9.3 .480 0.0-0.0 .273 2.1-2.9 .724 6.2 1.6 1.6 0.4 3.2 1.7 11.0

chris kaman
Career 532 29.7 4.9-10.1 .482 0.0-0.0 .000 2.1-2.9 .740 8.3 1.4 1.4 0.5 2.9 2.3 11.9

umm statistically they are similar but the edge does go to kaman.
or is this somehow impossible to digest cuz hes a balding white boy?

i'll take the argument that eric gordon is better than mo williams but they pretty much play the same role on whatever team they are on.

eric gordon has more potential yeah but hasn't done much more

How you gonna use stats as your reason for someone being better if the stats are similar despite one player still getting better and the other player maxing out his potential....

It doesn't make any sense does it? And Kaman has played 200+ games more

Cosmic_Cannon

R.D. wrote: »

damn

Cosmic_Cannon wrote: »

In terms of franchise players..
03>>

In terms of overall depth..
08>>>

no sign

03 had 2 franchise players and they play together making them one

so 08 class got more franchise players

So Bosh and Melo are not top 5 players at their position, and didn't lead their team to P/O runs?

ocelot

Wait I say this in another thread and I get wacks and no signs but come in here and everyone agrees?

Only in the IC...smh

NothingButTheTruth

ghost tho wrote: »

bullshit....this is borderline trollish

I know right. These dudes know damn well if you put all the players from '03 and '08 in a draft pool, damn near all the top dudes in '03 gettin' drafted before EVERYONE in '08.

R.D.

Cosmic_Cannon wrote: »

R.D. wrote: »

damn

Cosmic_Cannon wrote: »

In terms of franchise players..
03>>

In terms of overall depth..
08>>>

no sign

03 had 2 franchise players and they play together making them one

so 08 class got more franchise players

So Bosh and Melo are not top 5 players at their position, and didn't lead their team to P/O runs?

NO

Cosmic_Cannon

R.D. wrote: »

Cosmic_Cannon wrote: »

R.D. wrote: »

damn

Cosmic_Cannon wrote: »

In terms of franchise players..
03>>

In terms of overall depth..
08>>>

no sign

03 had 2 franchise players and they play together making them one

so 08 class got more franchise players

So Bosh and Melo are not top 5 players at their position, and didn't lead their team to P/O runs?

NO

Really OP? Really? You talking out of your ass right now.

t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088

Niggas on the i.c. really have trouble with reading comprehension. No one is arguing that the 03' players are better than the 08' players at the top. But the 08' class has more depth, period....

greenwood1921

'08 *might* beat '03 in a actually game. But '03 would win a 7-game series.

But I'm sure 08 would win in a poll right now simply because they're younger and the new "flavors of the month" whereas we've seen the '03 cats ball for damn near a decade and we've all formed solid (and stubborn) opinions about them. Some of which are personal.

DaBull

ocelot wrote: »

Wait I say this in another thread and I get wacks and no signs but come in here and everyone agrees?

Only in the IC...smh

dont hate, niggaz respect DaBull's sports opinion in da CS

DaBull

NothingButTheTruth wrote: »

ghost tho wrote: »

bullshit....this is borderline trollish

I know right. These dudes know damn well if you put all the players from '03 and '08 in a draft pool, damn near all the top dudes in '03 gettin' drafted before EVERYONE in '08.

not true, only player that would completely go number one is Lebron. I think if you polled all 30 GM n coaches that rose and wade would be a toss up for the 2nd pick. and Love would go b4 Bosh. westbrook and Melo is also ALOT closer than people think. the 2 draft classes r close.....very close

kAjUn

R.D. wrote: »

Cosmic_Cannon wrote: »

R.D. wrote: »

damn

Cosmic_Cannon wrote: »

In terms of franchise players..
03>>

In terms of overall depth..
08>>>

no sign

03 had 2 franchise players and they play together making them one

so 08 class got more franchise players

So Bosh and Melo are not top 5 players at their position, and didn't lead their team to P/O runs?

NO

name 5 sf's better than melo and name 5 pf's better than bosh

Peezy_Jenkins

too soon..

Shizlansky

the 03 class play much better defense the the 08 class

KeepOnPushing

Fuckin Hate DeAndre Jordan , Athletic fool who doesn't have a fuckin clue what he's doing on the court

Starting Center averaging that weak ass 7 & 8 ...

DaBull

KeepOnPushing wrote: »

Fuckin Hate DeAndre Jordan , Athletic fool who doesn't have a fuckin clue what he's doing on the court

Starting Center averaging that weak ass 7 & 8 ...

yeah but he got a Hell of an Agent, nigga got a 4 year, 44 milli deal this summer!!!!

DaBull

Shizlansky87 wrote: »

the 03 class play much better defense the the 08 class

keep in mind they have had 5 more years of Defensive coaching, I dont agree with you anyway. Melo n Bosh dont play D

R.D.

kAjUn wrote: »

R.D. wrote: »

Cosmic_Cannon wrote: »

R.D. wrote: »

damn

Cosmic_Cannon wrote: »

In terms of franchise players..
03>>

In terms of overall depth..
08>>>

no sign

03 had 2 franchise players and they play together making them one

so 08 class got more franchise players

So Bosh and Melo are not top 5 players at their position, and didn't lead their team to P/O runs?

NO

name 5 sf's better than melo and name 5 pf's better than bosh

KD
LeBron
Rudy Gay
.....i ll give you Melo at 4th


LA
Kevin Love
Josh Smith
Dirk
Pau Gasol
Blake Griffin

t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088

DaBull wrote: »

KeepOnPushing wrote: »

Fuckin Hate DeAndre Jordan , Athletic fool who doesn't have a fuckin clue what he's doing on the court

Starting Center averaging that weak ass 7 & 8 ...

yeah but he got a Hell of an Agent, nigga got a 4 year, 44 milli deal this summer!!!!

that has a lot to do with the market for centers also. I'm scared to even think about how much bread hibbert bout to get...

ocelot

DaBull wrote: »

ocelot wrote: »

Wait I say this in another thread and I get wacks and no signs but come in here and everyone agrees?

Only in the IC...smh

dont hate, niggaz respect DaBull's sports opinion in da CS

Only in the IC...smh

Alpha Outlaw

Just compare the 03's accomplishments through 3 years to the 08' class.

I aint doin that shit though lol

Inglewood_B

....

almighty breeze

1.LeBron
2.Wade
3. Rose
4. Love
5. Bosh
6. Melo
7. Westbrook
8. Roy Hibbert
9. OJ Mayo
10. Eric Gordon

That would be the order of the draft TODAY
had this draft happened with 06-07 results (1st 4 years for 03 draft) then compare i cant say that 03 wouldnt have the first 5 picks