Lol at more consistent than Jay-Z. In this era yes, but Ross releases literally 5 times more material. We're lucky to hear a new Jay song once every few months at best. We hear a new Ross or Ross-featured song every few days. No exaggerating. Typically it's above average to great.
Totally different approaches to music though. Ross grinds this hard because he HAS to in this new market. Let him take a Jeezy amount of time off and see what happens. It'll be "Rick Who? Nah this new nigga Mosh Grizzly GOT THE SCREETS". That's how fast it moves if you are clearly establishing your dominance on a constant basis. The attention span of the casual Hip-Hop fan is like.. 4 year old ADD level.
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PS Kanye has created a lane for all these "guy next door" rappers like J Cole, Drake,etc too. No way in hell is this Ross's era.
True, but Ross survived that exposure. Kanye gets props for ending the domination of street rappers cause he dropped his debut right after Jay "retired."
I swear the Ross detractors use the same talking points over and over again
Explain to me how he not moving more units than he is . He gets the best production,best features and his promotion is not bad and its supposed to be his era right now come on b.
Its not my job to explain his record sales, i just enjoy his music. All im saying is y'all running out with the "he only has good production" or my favorite one "he relies on features"......both are blatant lies that any real fan of Ross can see right through.
Its just amazes me that instead of just saying you don't like the nigga, u dudes gotta make up all the extra shit to justify your hate for Ross.
How u be a Kanye fan but claim u can't listen to Ross because he can't rap?
How are u a fan of Jay Z but knock Ross for "lack of subject matter"??
How are u an Odd Future fan yet knock Ross for not going Plat??
You dudes are just ridiculous with the double standards. I mean do u really think ppl aren't noticing the hypocrisy when it comes to Ross and the "internet fan"??
Just admit u don't like ole boy, all that extra shit is unnecessary
So 9 outta 10 songs on Teflon Don didn't have features. Odd Future are Indie backed by themselves and don't make radio friendly music at all so that a mute point next Subject matter okay lets see how we gon poke holes in this . Jay -Z can rap about the same thing every song but make it interesting, Ross doesn't have that talent. Kanye is not a better rapper than rick ross but I never said any thing about him not being able to rap. I said how is it his era when unlike all the other Bigtime cats he can't move units he has good promotion,great features buzz all that . He doesn't have a release date . So if I'm a label what the fuck do I have to do to make him for real get on that next level because at this point I would be tired of him wasting cash even tho we all know thats def jam's favorite thing to do.
has kanye just gone missing or something?? lol ....but yeah man ross is coo the only album of his i think is top notch qaulity or comprable with the best work of his peers would be his last shit .... tho ....rozzzzzzay!
I swear the Ross detractors use the same talking points over and over again
Explain to me how he not moving more units than he is . He gets the best production,best features and his promotion is not bad and its supposed to be his era right now come on b.
Its not my job to explain his record sales, i just enjoy his music. All im saying is y'all running out with the "he only has good production" or my favorite one "he relies on features"......both are blatant lies that any real fan of Ross can see right through.
Its just amazes me that instead of just saying you don't like the nigga, u dudes gotta make up all the extra shit to justify your hate for Ross.
How u be a Kanye fan but claim u can't listen to Ross because he can't rap?
How are u a fan of Jay Z but knock Ross for "lack of subject matter"??
How are u an Odd Future fan yet knock Ross for not going Plat??
You dudes are just ridiculous with the double standards. I mean do u really think ppl aren't noticing the hypocrisy when it comes to Ross and the "internet fan"??
Just admit u don't like ole boy, all that extra shit is unnecessary
I swear the Ross detractors use the same talking points over and over again
Explain to me how he not moving more units than he is . He gets the best production,best features and his promotion is not bad and its supposed to be his era right now come on b.
Its not my job to explain his record sales, i just enjoy his music. All im saying is y'all running out with the "he only has good production" or my favorite one "he relies on features"......both are blatant lies that any real fan of Ross can see right through.
Its just amazes me that instead of just saying you don't like the nigga, u dudes gotta make up all the extra shit to justify your hate for Ross.
How u be a Kanye fan but claim u can't listen to Ross because he can't rap?
How are u a fan of Jay Z but knock Ross for "lack of subject matter"??
How are u an Odd Future fan yet knock Ross for not going Plat??
You dudes are just ridiculous with the double standards. I mean do u really think ppl aren't noticing the hypocrisy when it comes to Ross and the "internet fan"??
Just admit u don't like ole boy, all that extra shit is unnecessary
So 9 outta 10 songs on Teflon Don didn't have features. Odd Future are Indie backed by themselves and don't make radio friendly music at all so that a mute point next Subject matter okay lets see how we gon poke holes in this . Jay -Z can rap about the same thing every song but make it interesting, Ross doesn't have that talent. Kanye is not a better rapper than rick ross but I never said any thing about him not being able to rap. I said how is it his era when unlike all the other Bigtime cats he can't move units he has good promotion,great features buzz all that . He doesn't have a release date . So if I'm a label what the fuck do I have to do to make him for real get on that next level because at this point I would be tired of him wasting cash even tho we all know thats def jam's favorite thing to do.
Again DOUBLE STANDARDS.
Regardless of what you say an Odd Future fan has no reason to turn their nose up at ANYBODYS record sales
Kanyes last album had features on 10 outta 13 tracks(he wasnt even really rapping on one of the 3 tracks he had by himself)
Saying Jay Z can be redundant lyrically only because you "prefer" him to Ross is just you sticking your head in the sand.
Why are you so worried about a "release date" for an album you obviously have no interest in purchasing? Ross just gave away a free album in Rich Forever so i think he has some leeway in taking time to craft GFID. I expect PREMIUM sound from Ross so i have no problem waiting for him to get his next album exactly the way he wants it.....
Deeper Than Rap
The Timeless Audemar Piguet Collection
Albert Anastasia
Teflon Don
Ashes To Ashes
Rich Forever
Thats 6 projects in the last 3 years all of which have classic records on them. Ross kept it HIPHOP while all those BIGTIME cats pandered to white people for record sales. Since 2009 its hard pressed to name a HIPHOP artist who has been more consistent MUSICALLY than Ross.
It wasnt Nas
It wasnt Jay
It wasnt Em
It wasnt Kanye
It wasnt Jeezy
If anything this praise Ross is getting in 2012 is LONG OVERDUE.
Meh, if Ross drops three solid albums the snow-bunnies will say "Dude it was all production dude".
If he drops 3 Gold albums within 6 years they will say "Dude he never went platinum like our Vanilla Ice did dude".
if he would have gone platinum they would say "Dude, Def Jam bought all those albums dude".
If the streets co-sign Rozay the blog geeks will say "Dude that fat Black cop is fake dude, he was a C.O. as a teen dude"
I heard one Pink-toe say "Dude Emenim is a real nigger, when he raps about serial-killing and sticking gerbils in his ass it's because he lives his lyrics dude and he's qualified to rap about that based on his experiences dude".
So when blog-geeks, nerds, wannabees's, outsiders, mutants, and G-Unit wiggers share their opinions on our culture I typically just laugh and imagine what they look like.
Its not my job to explain his record sales, i just enjoy his music. All im saying is y'all running out with the "he only has good production" or my favorite one "he relies on features"......both are blatant lies that any real fan of Ross can see right through.
Its just amazes me that instead of just saying you don't like the nigga, u dudes gotta make up all the extra shit to justify your hate for Ross.
How u be a Kanye fan but claim u can't listen to Ross because he can't rap?
How are u a fan of Jay Z but knock Ross for "lack of subject matter"??
How are u an Odd Future fan yet knock Ross for not going Plat??
You dudes are just ridiculous with the double standards. I mean do u really think ppl aren't noticing the hypocrisy when it comes to Ross and the "internet fan"??
Just admit u don't like ole boy, all that extra shit is unnecessary
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Third Grade Logic smh... Ross is alright. He is nobody to rave over. He isnt doing anything groundbreaking. Odd Future and Kanye are. Jay not so much any more but he still is the goat imo. He could rap circles around ross if he wanted too.
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Totally different approaches to music though. Ross grinds this hard because he HAS to in this new market. Let him take a Jeezy amount of time off and see what happens. It'll be "Rick Who? Nah this new nigga Mosh Grizzly GOT THE SCREETS". That's how fast it moves if you are clearly establishing your dominance on a constant basis. The attention span of the casual Hip-Hop fan is like.. 4 year old ADD level.
^^From a diff forum but what somebody else said that i co sign
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •So 9 outta 10 songs on Teflon Don didn't have features. Odd Future are Indie backed by themselves and don't make radio friendly music at all so that a mute point next Subject matter okay lets see how we gon poke holes in this . Jay -Z can rap about the same thing every song but make it interesting, Ross doesn't have that talent. Kanye is not a better rapper than rick ross but I never said any thing about him not being able to rap. I said how is it his era when unlike all the other Bigtime cats he can't move units he has good promotion,great features buzz all that . He doesn't have a release date . So if I'm a label what the fuck do I have to do to make him for real get on that next level because at this point I would be tired of him wasting cash even tho we all know thats def jam's favorite thing to do.
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Regardless of what you say an Odd Future fan has no reason to turn their nose up at ANYBODYS record sales
Kanyes last album had features on 10 outta 13 tracks(he wasnt even really rapping on one of the 3 tracks he had by himself)
Saying Jay Z can be redundant lyrically only because you "prefer" him to Ross is just you sticking your head in the sand.
Why are you so worried about a "release date" for an album you obviously have no interest in purchasing? Ross just gave away a free album in Rich Forever so i think he has some leeway in taking time to craft GFID. I expect PREMIUM sound from Ross so i have no problem waiting for him to get his next album exactly the way he wants it.....
Deeper Than Rap
The Timeless Audemar Piguet Collection
Albert Anastasia
Teflon Don
Ashes To Ashes
Rich Forever
Thats 6 projects in the last 3 years all of which have classic records on them. Ross kept it HIPHOP while all those BIGTIME cats pandered to white people for record sales. Since 2009 its hard pressed to name a HIPHOP artist who has been more consistent MUSICALLY than Ross.
It wasnt Nas
It wasnt Jay
It wasnt Em
It wasnt Kanye
It wasnt Jeezy
If anything this praise Ross is getting in 2012 is LONG OVERDUE.
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Thats the key to his success. He didnt.
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Its just amazes me that instead of just saying you don't like the nigga, u dudes gotta make up all the extra shit to justify your hate for Ross.
How u be a Kanye fan but claim u can't listen to Ross because he can't rap?
How are u a fan of Jay Z but knock Ross for "lack of subject matter"??
How are u an Odd Future fan yet knock Ross for not going Plat??
You dudes are just ridiculous with the double standards. I mean do u really think ppl aren't noticing the hypocrisy when it comes to Ross and the "internet fan"??
Just admit u don't like ole boy, all that extra shit is unnecessary
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Third Grade Logic smh... Ross is alright. He is nobody to rave over. He isnt doing anything groundbreaking. Odd Future and Kanye are. Jay not so much any more but he still is the goat imo. He could rap circles around ross if he wanted too.
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