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Hip Hop Holograms: Pros and Cons/Future Success

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  • MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14 Posts: 15,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    GeE-757 wrote: »
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    here is the thing though.....with 5 to 10 more years of technology improvements it could cost a company less and there is a huge market for themed events of artists who have died or a group with members who have died. Them michael jackson cirque du solei and the beatles cover band rain and many other tribute bands get racks on racks on racks by doing these shows.

    Now that this shit is shifting to hip hop its a whole new market of people to make money off. While now it will be only at special awards shows or big festivals i expect to see this shit more and more and years progress.

    therr mayb a big market fa da michael jacksonz & shit but havin 2pac shoutin out people he didnt fuk wit aint gonna make people happy..

    Maybe but the average fan doesn't get that cause they associate both artists as being west coast affiliated. Now if diddy is doing his dancing in front of a hollogram pac and pac says "my nigga diddy!" then fans will get mad cause thats obvious. As long as they get consent from a family or estate owner and it seems somewhat realistic people will be flock to whatever hollogram event is being shown mid concert.

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  • IceBergTaylorIceBergTaylor The Spectacular Posts: 19,116 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VIBE wrote: »
    On camera it looked real but being there live? The crowd didn't seem to really go all nuts to me.

    I could see the bigs like Pac, Nate and Biggie being used in the future. Maybe even concerts, they may be expensive but the concerts would pay for them.

    I could see this being big for an MJ concert.


    I thought the same thing. It didnt seem like ppl were fuckin with it
  • semi-auto-matosemi-auto-mato Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    pro: visuals to go along with music we love
    cons: it has to be expensive
    I will say that its not something we will see often because of the cost. only at large concerts like this one. i dont we see snoop on stage with a tupac hologram or jay on stage with biggie if they have to come out they on pocket for it

    here is the thing though.....with 5 to 10 more years of technology improvements it could cost a company less and there is a huge market for themed events of artists who have died or a group with members who have died. Them michael jackson cirque du solei and the beatles cover band rain and many other tribute bands get racks on racks on racks by doing these shows.

    Now that this shit is shifting to hip hop its a whole new market of people to make money off. While now it will be only at special awards shows or big festivals i expect to see this shit more and more and years progress.

    I cant see it being profitable at any given time. No one is gonna pay a $100 dollars for a seat in a arena to see 3 hours of a hologram. the money tossed around for these tribute bands is nothing compared to what a hologram cost to make. in a few years that production cost is not gonna go down that much.
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  • GeE-757GeE-757 Posts: 6,441
    edited April 2012
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    Maybe but the average fan doesn't get that cause they associate both artists as being west coast affiliated. Now if diddy is doing his dancing in front of a hollogram pac and pac says "my nigga diddy!" then fans will get mad cause thats obvious. As long as they get consent from a family or estate owner and it seems somewhat realistic people will be flock to whatever hollogram event is being shown mid concert.

    that dont make sense that soundz like a white hiphop fan cuz a REAL PAC fan knowz pac didnt like gay azz dre & pac made that very clear like n my sig & n his musik anybody sayin otherwize is not a real pac fan again i just dont c folkz likin pac shoutin out folkz he didnt like hell pac didnt even like SNOOP i just think this whole hologram of rapperz like TUPAC is wack especially when people is tryna change pac n2 sumthang hez not...
    HLF aka icesissy is a FAG pac was talkin 2 u MANN!


    i dont even like black chics like that

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  • infamous114infamous114 Down in Miami where it's warm in the winter. Posts: 51,155 Regulator
    edited April 2012
    GeE-757 wrote: »
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    Maybe but the average fan doesn't get that cause they associate both artists as being west coast affiliated. Now if diddy is doing his dancing in front of a hollogram pac and pac says "my nigga diddy!" then fans will get mad cause thats obvious. As long as they get consent from a family or estate owner and it seems somewhat realistic people will be flock to whatever hollogram event is being shown mid concert.

    that dont make sense that soundz like a white hiphop fan cuz a REAL PAC fan knowz pac didnt like gay azz dre & pac made that very clear like n my sig & n his musik anybody sayin otherwize is not a real pac fan again i just dont c folkz likin pac shoutin out folkz he didnt like hell pac didnt even like SNOOP i just think this whole hologram of rapperz like TUPAC is wack especially when people is tryna change pac n2 sumthang hez not...

    That doesn't make sense, cause a hip hop fan would know about Pac's beef with both of them, you should have said the casual fan
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  • GeE-757GeE-757 Posts: 6,441
    edited April 2012
    That doesn't make sense, cause a hip hop fan would know about Pac's beef with both of them, you should have said the casual white fan

    call me ignorant but thatz da 1st thang that popp;d n my head is a clueless white person not gettin that shit o well lol..yeah i couldve word;d that betta
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  • DarthRozayDarthRozay Posts: 20,406 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2012
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    Pro: He can't be hit with a rape charge
    con: he can't shoot living cops.

    lmao i dunno as the technology improves i think they could get him to use weapons and shit lol

    he could shoot hologram cops lmao
    GeE-757 wrote: »
    da shit is WACK cuz tupac wouldve neva said wat up GAY AZZ DRe u c wat da REAL makaveli is sayin n my SIG...
    So you're saying if Pac was still alive his opinions on Dre wouldn't have changed even after 16 years? stop it man
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  • semi-auto-matosemi-auto-mato Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    we really cant argue about what pac would or wouldnt say. its a hologram so he's only gonna say things they have recordings of. the person behind the scenes gets to pick and choose how they want to present the artist. someone might want him yelling fuck bad boy and someone might want him and big on stage together. he has done both so u cant say he would or wouldnt.
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  • GeE-757GeE-757 Posts: 6,441
    So you're saying if Pac was still alive his opinions on Dre wouldn't have changed even after 16 years? stop it man

    i dont care about all that all i want is da REAL PAC & he said FUK GAY AZZ DRE! fuk a fake hologram!
    we really cant argue about what pac would or wouldnt say. its a hologram so he's only gonna say things they have recordings of. the person behind the scenes gets to pick and choose how they want to present the artist. someone might want him yelling fuck bad boy and someone might want him and big on stage together. he has done both so u cant say he would or wouldnt.

    itz not really about arguin wat pac would say itz just i dont wanna c pac bein changed n2 sumthang hez not itz bad enuff they do shit like that wit his MUSIK havin pac sayin shit he wouldve neva said imean we dont need no fake azz hologram of pac puttin on a show sayin sum fake shit 2
    HLF aka icesissy is a FAG pac was talkin 2 u MANN!


    i dont even like black chics like that

    ^ & this feminem cracka protectin clown aint a white boy?? PLZ!

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  • 2stepz_ahead2stepz_ahead Who I am is Complex, What i am, simply put. I'm a Threat walking out the lions denPosts: 31,528 ✭✭✭✭✭
    white people finding anyway to get money outta black people...even the dead ones

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  • BDBIIDBDBIID 5* Poster. Ranked #1 ESPNU150,Rivals,247Sports. Uncommitted. Tri-State Posts: 18,671 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That shit was dope as fuck.


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  • RickyRichRickyRich Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    we really cant argue about what pac would or wouldnt say. its a hologram so he's only gonna say things they have recordings of. the person behind the scenes gets to pick and choose how they want to present the artist. someone might want him yelling fuck bad boy and someone might want him and big on stage together. he has done both so u cant say he would or wouldnt.

    oo thats how it works .. they should made his set lil longer

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  • just.might.b.okjust.might.b.ok Posts: 6,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    GeE-757 wrote: »
    da shit is WACK cuz tupac wouldve neva said wat up GAY AZZ DRe u c wat da REAL makaveli is sayin n my SIG...

    yeah, 2Pac was an irrational fuck that would have stayed mad for more than 15 years
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  • GeE-757GeE-757 Posts: 6,441
    edited April 2012
    yeah, 2Pac was an irrational fuck that would have stayed mad for more than 15 years

    tupac would have plenty of reasonz 2 still b piss;d @ gay dre 2DAY especially since alize sign;d a RACIST CRACKA pac wouldve kick;d gay azz drez azz!
    HLF aka icesissy is a FAG pac was talkin 2 u MANN!


    i dont even like black chics like that

    ^ & this feminem cracka protectin clown aint a white boy?? PLZ!

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    ^MANN ALERT!....that ugly azz cracka BostonHoe aka BostonDro is a male stalkin faggot u straight malez on herr betta beware...

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  • rapmastermindrapmastermind Entertainment/Pop Culture/Media Analyst New York CityPosts: 5,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2012
    I don't know how it looks live as in the audience but seeing it on video was mind-blowing. I actually thought it was creative and cool and really brought me back to being 15-16 year old listening to Pac. I thought the CGI for the hologram and the movements were pretty accurate for Pac. I think this is going to be huge in the future for dead artist especially Michael Jackson, The Beatles and even Whitney Houston. This will be looked back on as historic for them being able to achieve this. With that said, I don't think they should be putting words in artist mouth. Like the way Eminem had Pac saying "Gunit" on that album, just use real audio of things Pac said or other artist said. Don't be having Pac up there with Lil Wayne saying "Young Money" cause that would be weak or saying "Roc Nation" or whatever. And Yes, Diddy already put in his Biggie order now, as soon as Diddy saw this, he saw dollar signs. LOL. But it was dope, errie and weird all at the same time. Pac is still with us.
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  • young_reezyyoung_reezy Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2012
    i'm sure this is some industry exec's dream. you don't have to pay the artist, you may even own all their publishing, they contributed all the artistry but since they're gone you can have them perform at any venue, get them to give the show you want and the best part about it the artist isn't even here. They have found a way to make the artist a 100% commodity.

    It was nice to see what looked like Pac and Snoop on stage again though but it's all about that dollar lets not forget.
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  • rapmastermindrapmastermind Entertainment/Pop Culture/Media Analyst New York CityPosts: 5,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2012
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    How can anyone who grew up on Pac not like this, dope tribute. It so strange cause he's kinda transparent and it seems like a ghost is on stage, amazing visual effects.
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  • GeE-757GeE-757 Posts: 6,441
    edited April 2012
    How can anyone who grew up on Pac not like this, dope tribute. It so strange cause he's kinda transparent and it seems like a ghost is on stage, amazing visual effects.

    eazy da shit is fake as fuk pac didnt even like snoop b4 he died thatz a fake tribute i just think hologramz of rapperz like pac shouldnt b allow;d imo..especially since snoop has said alot of FOUL shit about pac since hez been dead like biggie couldve destroy;d pac & nas had pac shook & shit smh
    HLF aka icesissy is a FAG pac was talkin 2 u MANN!


    i dont even like black chics like that

    ^ & this feminem cracka protectin clown aint a white boy?? PLZ!

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  • D.D.S.D.D.S. Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭✭✭
    shit was crazy.
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    Was amazing, shit gave Me goose bumps... Reminds Me of the Klitscko ring entrance with Fraiser and them...

    I woulda thought Pac woulda long got over the drama and beef Suge was filling his mind with and made up with Snoop and Dre and got real money... Anyways

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  • rapmastermindrapmastermind Entertainment/Pop Culture/Media Analyst New York CityPosts: 5,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    GeE-757 wrote: »
    How can anyone who grew up on Pac not like this, dope tribute. It so strange cause he's kinda transparent and it seems like a ghost is on stage, amazing visual effects.

    eazy da shit is fake as fuk pac didnt even like snoop b4 he died i just think hologramz of rapperz like pac shouldnt b allow;d imo...

    Again I agree about exploiting Pac's image for profit but they doing that now with all the remix albums and soon to be movie. As for Pac not liking Snoop and Dre, they were both on his last LP released while he was alive, the beef didn't start till right before he died. Dre gave Pac his biggest hit. If done right this is a good way to keep Pac's and other dead artist legacy going, give the fans something. Trust me there will be Holograms of:

    Biggie
    Michael Jackson
    Whitney Houston
    John Lennon and George Harrison (Beatles)
    Bob Marley
    Kurt Cobain


    This will open the flood gates.
  • GeE-757GeE-757 Posts: 6,441
    edited April 2012
    Again I agree about exploiting Pac's image for profit but they doing that now with all the remix albums and soon to be movie. As for Pac not liking Snoop and Dre, they were both on his last LP released while he was alive, the beef didn't start till right before he died. Dre gave Pac his biggest hit. If done right this is a good way to keep Pac's and other dead artist legacy going, give the fans something. Trust me there will be Holograms of:

    Biggie
    Michael Jackson
    Whitney Houston
    John Lennon and George Harrison (Beatles)
    Bob Marley
    Kurt Cobain


    This will open the flood gates.

    but da thang is when tupac was ALIVE snoop didnt even want 2 perform 2 of amerikkkaz most want;d wit pac so again fuk this fake azz shit...& pac made it very clear long b4 his def that gay azz dre was a FAGGOT that shit was not rite b4 pac died like da snoop shit im just not feelin this pac hologram shit....but this hologram shit would work betta fa artist like a michael jackson & whitney or marley but fuk that tupac shit lol
    HLF aka icesissy is a FAG pac was talkin 2 u MANN!


    i dont even like black chics like that

    ^ & this feminem cracka protectin clown aint a white boy?? PLZ!

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  • semi-auto-matosemi-auto-mato Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dont think this will be at all. it may be good here and there but a bunch of fans will consider it disrespectful to their fav artist. there is no interaction with the crowd at all. u are basically just watching a video.
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  • GeE-757GeE-757 Posts: 6,441
    edited April 2012
    lamontbdc wrote: »
    yeah gee you need to just give up on this one homie. I mean you talking as if 3 months before not fucking with Snoop he was fucking with Snoop. He was fucking with Dre til we heard Dre's leaving Death row. Yet you in here talking like Pac's feelings were set in stone and you can project his feelings in the future. so he can meet up with Nas and squash that beef but there is no possible way that he would have squashed a beef with Dre and Snoop? And we all know he didn't really have a beef with them Suge put him up to the shit. come on now

    ya krazy tupac was callin gay azz dre a faggot long b4 his def pac didnt like gay azz dre da only beef that happen;d b4 pac died was that snoop shit & that beef really start;d when snoopyz scary azz didnt want 2 perform 2 of amerikkaz most want;d



    & pac had a legit reason not 2 like gay azz dre cuz he was a faggot & he left snoop high & dry when snooop was facin a murder case that shit aint have nuttin 2 do wit suge & da beef wit snoop was brought on by SNOOp not suge...

    HLF aka icesissy is a FAG pac was talkin 2 u MANN!


    i dont even like black chics like that

    ^ & this feminem cracka protectin clown aint a white boy?? PLZ!

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    ^MANN ALERT!....that ugly azz cracka BostonHoe aka BostonDro is a male stalkin faggot u straight malez on herr betta beware...

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