Lets keep it real, NYC has had a lesser impact on the urban community than California and the south

tru_m.a.c

zay_24 wrote: »

LOl, is this nigga really tryna say crips n bloods down south got it from NY? smh

I think he may be referring to the UBN

blackdemo

I feel like theres a inferiority complex going on here. People shittin on NYC because they city was never mentioned as one of the greats, as a mecca, as a powerhouse. NYC is a great city, Great MCs came from NY, trending fashions come from NY, niggas in the south get they steez from NYC about 6 months latge, I mean i hate to say it but its true. NYC is a powerhouse in buisness, I mean NYC is one of the best cities in the world and some people on this site feel the need to TRY to make it look bad so it can stoop down to their level because they know NYC is better. This is coming from a niga who live in Canada and reps NC. But i lived in NYC for 7 years n im riding with NYC. I dont care how many no signs, feelings, or whacks I get. Theres no place like NY and its had the largest impact on urban culture.


Jay-z
Nas
Biggie
Big Pun
LL Cool J
Wu-tang
Mobb deep
Gangstarr
AZ
Onyx
Rakim
Run DMC
50 cent
CNN
Big Pun
Big L

I mean the list goes on for days. I respect other coast and their music and impact. I love the south, When im 30 and up I want to raise my kids and get married in the south. I love the west coast for the swag they had back in the day and the music they providing for us right now, I love the midwest. Shit I love america. But i mean I cant just shit on NYC and ignore what its done for the urban culture. Lets be real here

Tommy_Milfhitta

@ blackdemo

All the ppl u listed are either dead or have fallen off the radar and have no real impact on the Hip Hop culture as a whole. The South and West are running the game right now as far as cultural influence eg, fashion, southern influenced sound (boom bap been dead since the 90's) and other traits that are distinctly southern/western. I lived in South Africa till I was 18 and now I live in the UK and I can tell you that NY cats aint makin no impact anywhere apart from their hometown.

Hip Hop as the rest of the world knows it, is the West/South style hip hop. East Coast been fell off since the 90's and its mostly the old heads and the nostalgic niggas that are still living in the 90's that fux with NYC cats.

Jay-Z and 50 are the only reason NY stayed on the map, otherwise NYC woulda fallen off long time ago.

fiat_money

zay_24 wrote:

...The only thing NY done started was rap...

I'm not from New York, but this is all I give a fuck about.

Ounceman

zombie wrote: »

zay_24 wrote: »

They didn't make it popular?
LMAO stop it, grills aint become a nation wide trend until the SOUTH started doing it, so yes they did make it popular.

But where did the south get it from? nyc so they still had to follow.

If you want to argue he fact that new yorkers were the first to rock golds in the hip hop world than u have an argument. But if your arguing the fact the NYC was the first to wear golds aesthetically in general than the above statement is invalid. People have been wearing gold teeth as a fashion statement in the south during a time that predates hip hop itself. Blacks in Miami have been wearing them since the 60's

numbaz...80's baby

Dr.Chemix wrote: »

Damn you niggas really need to go outside or some shit

If the thread isn't about New York falling off, its about some duck tale with some broad

Or its some race relation question...

What you niggas do? Scratch your brains for 15 mins, struggling to come up with a thread topic?

It's GNS...but threads be on that BNS

Knives Amilli

no fucking duh.

Its not so much that NYC has no impact, its that NYC is too culturally distinct to truly be mimicked or understood.

NYC niggas are a breed of their own. Not only are a good portion of them *NOT* even niggas in sense of being historically African American (good portion of them are 1st-3rd generation immigrants) but they grew up in close living conditions with Jews, Italians, Irish, Polish, Koreans, Chinese, Ricans and Dominicans. No where else in the nation have Black people lived in that close of space with that many ethnicities. And this is not even mentioning the cultural effect Islam has on NYC niggas and the East Coast period.

All West Coast and Midwest Niggas are former Southerners at some point in their family history. Thats why the cultures between the South, Midwest, and West aren't dramatically different from each other and you see how niggas like BG and Boosie get play all the way from Detroit to LA.

This is why there is such huge difference in the cultures of NYC niggas and the rest of the nation........

nex gin

lmao @ the amount of feelings that have been caught in this thread.

leftcoastkev

Knives Amilli wrote: »

No where else in the nation have Black people lived in that close of space with that many ethnicities. .

Bay Area CA

rico_ENS

West coast where all the original studio gangsters came out from, them niggas actors, bunch of mark buster ol proper slang talkin ass niggas, n they pussy too, got no hands so they gotta shoot niggas while goin 20mph smh aint no drivebys in ny we do walkbys boy...oh n ya gettin ya ass whooped by fatheads (messicans) when in the east them niggas targets....


Cali lost ....

Kushington

Lol @ rico

you dont know anything about gangbangin bruh, dont speak on what youre not familiar with



stick to your cardboard breakdancing routines dunny

BlackGerald

Black Jerry Maguire wrote: »

ROLF at entire regions having to shit on one city in order to feel good about themselves

underrated post

Bawse D.Lox

i'm born n raised in BK, but all bull shit aside... Ny is a melting pot, damn near every group of ppl in the globe is in NY...
alot of trends NY may think they started, actually came from else where ,and has been "remixed" a bit. and that includes Rap... rap= dance hall, but i digress.

folks from NY roots go back 2 the south , n Mid West n West to a way lesser extent.

so all that, back in the day, 100 years is bull shit.
100 years ago, new york niggaz wasn't doing shit, but being punching bags to European foreigners, and being the 1st one's shot at during riots.

it wasn't, until niggaz started coming in from the SOUTH, to NYC in the 1920's. and brought their food, music and literature . That's when the Harlem Renaissance happened.
Them krackers in the south wasn't letting niggaz in the south n midwest do they thing, so when they came up north, they flex they creativity.

same shit happened again, in the late 70's early 80's, but this time in Brooklyn. with the influx of west indians and that's when Rap came in; from the jamaicans . if it wasn't for us west indians, NY would be dead.


but in all fairness newyork from the late 50's all the way up to the early 90's was the shit. living in NY was an experience. them wack ass mayors n governors done fucked it up.

nowadays it's just an over priced, expensive ass rest haven for faggots.
they're even passing new laws, to where you can't even smoke a cigarette in ya crib. I'm thru with NY. the only thing keeping the city popping is us west indians.

there was a time period were every body was moving too newyork , now every one is getting the fuck out, i digress my greatness once more.

BlackGerald

Bawse D.Lox wrote: »

i'm born n raised in BK, but all bull shit aside... Ny is a melting pot, damn near every group of ppl from the globe is from NY...
alot of trends NY may think they started, actually came from else where ,and has been "remixed" a bit. and that includes hiphop, rap= dance hall, but i digress.

folks from NY roots go back 2 the south , n Mid West n West to a lesser extent.

so all that, back in the day, 100 years is bull shit.
100 years ago, new york niggaz wasn't doing shit, but being punching bags to European foreigners, and being the 1st one's shot at during riots.

it wasn't, until niggaz started coming in from the SOUTH, to NYC in the 1920's. and brought their food, music and literature that's when the Harlem Renaissance happened. Them krackers in the south wasn't letting niggaz in the south n midwest do they thing, so when they came up north they flexed.

same shit happened again in the late 70's early 80's, but this time in Brooklyn. with the influx of west indians and that's when hiphop came in; from the jamaicans . if it wasn't for us west indians, NY would be dead.


but in all fairness newyork from the late 50's all the way up to the early 90's was the shit. living in NY was an experience.

them wack ass mayors n governors done fucked it up, nowadays it's just an over priced, expensive ass rest haven for faggots.
they're even passing new laws, to where you can't even smoke a cigarette in ya crib. I'm thru with NY. the only thing keeping the city popping is us west indians.

West Indians>>>

loch121

PimpMVP wrote: »

New York isn't the Mecca of anything.

Maybe in the 80's but after that naw b.

The 90's the West owned hip hop and in the 00-current the South has been running hip hop.

Just look at how New York niggas try to emulate Southern culture

What about the time period between Pac dying and the south.NY had a great run again until 2004.NY influenced clothes a lot.Now NY is emulating, but hip hop has always shared styles and became a hybrid.Cali was influenced by NY alot.Dre's production was very east coast.

Now NY is the mecca still because you are not a major artist w/ out NY airplay.No national artist doesn't get NY airplay.NY record companies gave the game to the south.NY still cuts the checks, and I'm not from NY these are just the facts.Jay Z and Puff still got more bread than anybody.

What the south is doing now w/ 808's and bass is no different than early NY hip hop. Right now this yr NY may not be the trend, but everything goes in cycles.he new west coast is a lot like 90's NY hip hop

Bawse D.Lox

loch121 wrote: »

PimpMVP wrote: »

New York isn't the Mecca of anything.

Maybe in the 80's but after that naw b.

The 90's the West owned hip hop and in the 00-current the South has been running hip hop.

Just look at how New York niggas try to emulate Southern culture

What about the time period between Pac dying and the south.NY had a great run again until 2004.NY influenced clothes a lot.Now NY is emulating, but hip hop has always shared styles and became a hybrid.Cali was influenced by NY alot.Dre's production was very east coast.

Now NY is the mecca still because you are not a major artist w/ out NY airplay.No national artist doesn't get NY airplay.NY record companies gave the game to the south.NY still cuts the checks, and I'm not from NY these are just the facts.Jay Z and Puff still got more bread than anybody.

What the south is doing now w/ 808's and bass is no different than early NY hip hop. Right now this yr NY may not be the trend, but everything goes in cycles.he new west coast is a lot like 90's NY hip hop

the coastal shit is dead play boy , now everybody from every race (white, black, etc) and every coast is getting shine. yet the south still got the game in a choke hold.

i see the south reigning for another decade.

Wild Self

Bawse D.Lox wrote: »

i'm born n raised in BK, but all bull shit aside... Ny is a melting pot, damn near every group of ppl in the globe is in NY...
alot of trends NY may think they started, actually came from else where ,and has been "remixed" a bit. and that includes Rap... rap= dance hall, but i digress.

folks from NY roots go back 2 the south , n Mid West n West to a way lesser extent.

so all that, back in the day, 100 years is bull shit.
100 years ago, new york niggaz wasn't doing shit, but being punching bags to European foreigners, and being the 1st one's shot at during riots.

it wasn't, until niggaz started coming in from the SOUTH, to NYC in the 1920's. and brought their food, music and literature . That's when the Harlem Renaissance happened.
Them krackers in the south wasn't letting niggaz in the south n midwest do they thing, so when they came up north, they flex they creativity.

same shit happened again, in the late 70's early 80's, but this time in Brooklyn. with the influx of west indians and that's when Rap came in; from the jamaicans . if it wasn't for us west indians, NY would be dead.


but in all fairness newyork from the late 50's all the way up to the early 90's was the shit. living in NY was an experience. them wack ass mayors n governors done fucked it up.

nowadays it's just an over priced, expensive ass rest haven for faggots.
they're even passing new laws, to where you can't even smoke a cigarette in ya crib. I'm thru with NY. the only thing keeping the city popping is us west indians.

there was a time period were every body was moving too newyork , now every one is getting the fuck out, i digress my greatness once more.

A lot of black folk especially are moving down south in massive numbers. A lot of them are from the east coast, like you said, that got overpriced and lost its identity. Now you got ASAP Rocky dudes mimicking their sound from Houston as well as old rappers having a hard time adjusting to the information age.

Wild Self

Tommy_Milfhitta wrote: »

@ blackdemo

All the ppl u listed are either dead or have fallen off the radar and have no real impact on the Hip Hop culture as a whole. The South and West are running the game right now as far as cultural influence eg, fashion, southern influenced sound (boom bap been dead since the 90's) and other traits that are distinctly southern/western. I lived in South Africa till I was 18 and now I live in the UK and I can tell you that NY cats aint makin no impact anywhere apart from their hometown.

Hip Hop as the rest of the world knows it, is the West/South style hip hop. East Coast been fell off since the 90's and its mostly the old heads and the nostalgic niggas that are still living in the 90's that fux with NYC cats.

Jay-Z and 50 are the only reason NY stayed on the map, otherwise NYC woulda fallen off long time ago.

You got a whole generation of youngins that were raised on blaring 808s club beats. They don't know what a boom bap record is suppose to sound like.

harlem hustla

Uptown money was lovely
Harlem niggas knew about the good bad nd the ugly

I Am Jay Pee

Cali is overrated. Might be the most overrated state in the world. Considering they did start alot of fads, but alot of people don't know that Hollywood came from Chicago in the 1920s. And there was Gangster Disciples and Vice Lords and Black Stones in Chicago before Bloods and Crips. Both New York and Chicago started with the mob BS to.....both cities had gangs since the 1800s.......GOD forbid, but the drive-by was even started in Chicago......Disney movies, Twinkies....first comedy club.....Chicago secretly has maybe the most influence.

I Am Jay Pee

Hell even in training day that hood they were in was Black P stones hoods a gang from Chicago brought to LA and one of their biggest hoods...

grumpy_new_yorker

Hip-Hop began in NYC. They started the whole fucking thing. Can't get more influential than that.

7figz

Every so often this thread is made. Get off NY's dick.

I Am Jay Pee

Cali is just a b product of Chicago if you look at the overall history. Its really NY and Chicago that is the most influential

zay_24

I Am Jay Pee wrote: »

Hell even in training day that hood they were in was Black P stones hoods a gang from Chicago brought to LA and one of their biggest hoods...

p stones in LA are bloods. It aint liek some chicago niggas came to LA n set up shop. T rogers was from chicago n created a blood set, n jus happened to name them p stones. Thats where it ends.