Has KanYe West Fallen Off Musically ?

rip.dilla

May 25th

JDSTAYWITIT.

No.

georgia boi

Graduation wasn't game changing? It didn't popularize mixing electronica with hip hop, introduce a whole new demographic of fans

I'd argue that every guest on MBDTF helped the album sans Swizz Beatz[/quote]

I guess I just don't see that as game changing IMO... Who else produces tracks like that for RAPPERS anyways??? I know some dub step was on WTT, but the only other example I can really think of right now is Lupe's Lasers album and Busta's World Go Round single, which both sucked in my opinion...

Also, why does Swizz catch so much hate for his features? LoL...

When it comes to serious features, I honestly felt that Kanye didn't need Raekwon on Gorgeous. It felt like Kanye was in a zone, and then Rae just comes in and does his thing- it felt a little out of place to me.

It was still probably my second favorite joint on the album though, so I aint mad at it.[/quote]

I agree with you about Graduation. It didn't really help usher in anything. I mean, it's a dope album, but it wasn't a game changer. For the most part, it just took that stadium anthemic sound that DJ Toomp and T.I. had with "What You Know About That" and splashed some Kanye on it for the core sound of the album. Then you have some of the more electronica sounding songs, which is a style that The Neptunes had long popularized before Kanye even peaked.

georgia boi

I don't think he's fallen off. I think his music post-Late Registration is more of him just flexing his artistic vision rather than being hands-on with everything. He's still dope, but it's just not solely a Kanye show anymore.

just.might.b.ok

the_focused_one wrote: »

just.might.b.ok wrote: »

yet MBDTF is his most critically acclaimed album

Yeah, just like Madden 10 is the highest rated Madden ever, and we all know it ain't fuckin' with Madden 05...

Kanye was on comeback mode after 808's and the sorry drunken Taylor Swift saga. So when critics heard the updated lyricism and amazing production, they jumped on the comeback bandwagon...

Either that or Kanye is Illuminati LoL...

im sorry to say this bro, but madden sucks, you've been buyin the same game over 10 times for something that could be just an update.
i guess ignorance is a bliss.

bkkbully

rip.dilla wrote:

Late Registration was the last REAL music/project he put out IMO

He's shown glimpses of his genius on Graduation and MBDTF (my only beef was too many guest features) but I dunno these days

Dude don't even produce shit anymore. All he talks about these days is Paris ..

So what y'all think? Yay or Nay?

Nah pimpin', he still produces everything. Just because you get someone to play the keys on your track or play the bass on your track doesn't mean you didn't produce it. At a certain point a producer reaches a level when he can be the head conductor, and build a team of musicians that can play the vision that he has. That is called producer in the most traditional sense. Niggas thinking that Kanye plays every instrument on every beat. So musically has he fallen off? Hell no, every track he touches musically is fire. But lyrically is a whole 'nother story.

Cabana_Da_Don

Yes he fell off.How can you produce Jesus Walk then do some bullshit as song called theraflu.His last aight album was graduation.

Already Home_17

Cabana_Da_Don wrote: »

Yes he fell off.How can you produce Jesus Walk then do some bullshit as song called theraflu.His last aight album was graduation.

while he was making jesus walks he was also making workout plan

whats your point?

yeah i rap so don't

Black Jerry Maguire wrote: »

All his albums except MBDTF have been game changing, and Kanye has been taking the role of a traditional producer, do you think guys Rick Rubin and Dr Dre are in their playing all the instruments and doing all the drum programming? I thought he fell off after 808s but then he released the GOOD fridays and MBDTF so I will wait to pass judgement when he releases a solo album

rapmastermind wrote: »

MBDTF Was Amazing, WTT was solid, not Classic but solid. So I'd say no but "Mercy", "Theruflu" and the other GOOD music tracks have been average so maybe the GOOD MUSIC compilation won't be that great. If anything I feel like Ye is continuing to evolve. Yes "College Dropout and Late Registration" are still his best albums musically but KanYe is still dropping heat. What I do agree about is the whole co-producer fiasco. I'm all for collaborations but before Ye use to do beats by himself, I heard No ID forced KanYe to do the "Otis" beat cause he was working with to many other producers. So in that way He is getting a little lazy but overall he's still a musical genius.

Kanye always had co-producers, so your post has inaccurate statements.


Why are people giving me bad signs when I drop knowledge?

tompetrez3

Yeah he is washed up. That what happens when you sleep in the same bed as Jay Z, all the creativity and creatine gets sucked right out of you

BlackGerald

tompetrez3 wrote: »

Yeah he is washed up. That what happens when you sleep in the same bed as Jay Z, all the creativity and creatine gets sucked right out of you

do you know that from experience?

the_focused_one

just.might.b.ok wrote: »

the_focused_one wrote: »

just.might.b.ok wrote: »

yet MBDTF is his most critically acclaimed album

Yeah, just like Madden 10 is the highest rated Madden ever, and we all know it ain't fuckin' with Madden 05...

Kanye was on comeback mode after 808's and the sorry drunken Taylor Swift saga. So when critics heard the updated lyricism and amazing production, they jumped on the comeback bandwagon...

Either that or Kanye is Illuminati LoL...

im sorry to say this bro, but madden sucks, you've been buyin the same game over 10 times for something that could be just an update.
i guess ignorance is a bliss.

I guess my point just went right over your head...

tompetrez3

Black Jerry Maguire wrote: »

tompetrez3 wrote: »

Yeah he is washed up. That what happens when you sleep in the same bed as Jay Z, all the creativity and creatine gets sucked right out of you

do you know that from experience?

Usmarin3 told me about it.

FucktheIC

This thread that shit I don't like.

gman82

Kanye has consistently fallen off imo. His first 2 albums were classic, Graduation was good. His last album is overrated imo. 808's was average at best. His production has been very suspect lately.

choppa_style

You'all should get your facts straight before making threads like this.

'Ye had just as many if not more features on CD and LR than Graduation and MBDTF. In fact Graduation only had one guest rapper on it.

And the only that Kanye actually produced himself was CD. The rest were all co-produced by him.

haute

Yes if you count WTT

But collabs aside, he's gone through some artistic growing pains, but nothing so severe that I would completely dismiss him

MikeydaGawd

choppa_style wrote: »

You'all should get your facts straight before making threads like this.

'Ye had just as many if not more features on CD and LR than Graduation and MBDTF. In fact Graduation only had one guest rapper on it.

And the only that Kanye actually produced himself was CD. The rest were all co-produced by him.

Graduation had 2. Wayne and mos def

IceBergTaylor

Mos Def didnt rap on the album tho

Bawse D.Lox

Niggaz Sayin Ye Fell Off, How Nigga? His Last Album, was My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

soul rattler

skooby2315 wrote: »

choppa_style wrote: »

You'all should get your facts straight before making threads like this.

'Ye had just as many if not more features on CD and LR than Graduation and MBDTF. In fact Graduation only had one guest rapper on it.

And the only that Kanye actually produced himself was CD. The rest were all co-produced by him.

Graduation had 2. Wayne and mos def

FucktheIC

haute wrote: »

Yes if you count WTT

But collabs aside, he's gone through some artistic growing pains, but nothing so severe that I would completely dismiss him

Now I see why yo' triflin' ass hated on a nigga shoes. You can't appreciate sophisticated ignorance.

TayJone

I feel as if Kanye had a lot to prove when he first came out rapping.
his hunger to be the best is still there but he just isnt putting in the same type of effort. the only Kanye album i cant mess with is 808s (only song i can listen to is Welcome to Heartbreak). that album i feel like has an asterisk by it though.
Kanye being with Amber Rose and now Kim K isnt gonna help him sustain his legacy imo though. he needs to get his mind in order seriously. if he makes a whole bunch of songs about Kim im gonna flip a house over.

Disciplined InSight

No he hasn't fallen off musically...his content has watered down throughout each release though.

idoitforhiphop10

Disciplined InSight wrote: »

No he hasn't fallen off musically...his content has watered down throughout each release though.

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