"You youngings don't know ish about music"

angrymaninc

As an eighties baby i feel like most of these new cats coming out suck although they appeal to a lot of these younger cats... now that reminds me of when i was younger and the older cats around me used to tell me how rap wasn't shit and i used to dismiss them like disgruntled older folks... kinda makes me wonder whether or not i became one of these bitter old cats

Turfaholic

Ima product of 86, I fucks wit every generation of hip hop. Earliest song I remember hearing is "It Takes 2" by Rob Base. Coolio introduced me to the genre with "Fantastic Voyage". Mom used to play "Doggystyle" tape heavy. I cried when 2Pac died. Thought I was a Hot Boy in 8th grade. Was crunk as a freshman. Hyphy as a senior. Was "So Icy" & seeing "Spaceships On Bankhead" in my early 20's. Now I listen to J. Cole and Jay-Z. What I'm saying is music is always growing and evolving. There's always a new artist spitting the shit you wanna hear at your point in life.

CirocObama

I'm only 22 but i still keep my ears and mind open. I've always been a well rounded music head, not just hip-hop wise. I always dig for older music but i can still appreciate a new song too as long as it evokes emotion, has lyrics or just content.

I would describe myself as a hip-hop head. On the flip though i really dislike those cornballs that tries to fit in and be a hip-hop head just to let people know how much they know about hip-hop. I mean how many times are we gonna see a comment about Justin Beiber or about the 90's on literally every damn Youtube video? SMH.

But on the other side i really really can't stand most of my generation. Musically or just the way they are. That's why i'm kinda a loner. I'm far from a nerd or whatever but my way of thinking have always been a little different.

As you can see i can see from my tape deck i really love listening to that old school hip-hop shit. However i've been rocking with cats like Jay Rock, Nipsey, Kendrick, Big Krit and a few others from the early-mid 00's too. I'm not a closeminded hip-hop geek nor am i nigga that loves any garbage just cuz it's hot, cuz my friends like it or cuz it's selling basically.

pop duke

angrymaninc wrote:

As an eighties baby i feel like most of these new cats coming out suck although they appeal to a lot of these younger cats... now that reminds me of when i was younger and the older cats around me used to tell me how rap wasn't shit and i used to dismiss them like disgruntled older folks... kinda makes me wonder whether or not i became one of these bitter old cats

Ur not a bitter old cat. I feel U as far as what da old heads said to U N da '80's but da music we grew up on vs dis sh*t dat's all ova da airwaves now is totally diff. If U rememba like I do,when we were shorties U could go to a record store & cop multiple CLASSICS N 1 visit i.e.Public Enemy,Tribe,Run-DMC,Cool J,KRS,NWA,Geto Boys,Rakim,Kane,G Rap,Juice Crew,Beasties,Salt/Pepa,Fat Boys,Skinny Boys(Philly),etc etc etc. Nowadays U will B hard pressed to go to B Buy or Target or whateva & cop 1 classic.........things done changed mane

Tru_Hitta

lol well i just turned twenty in april so im a 90's baby all day but i feel some old school but really i think its more of the meaning behind the music...like back when N.W.A,KRS-One,2Pac,Biggie,Ice Cube&Ice-T was rapping all of them where rapping about shit that happened in the streets of that era so the people of the 80's generation can relate to that but now a days the folks born in like 1997&on cant relate to older artist alot because they aint go throught none of the shit this older rappers was talking about although that doesnt they dont bump there music it just means they hear the words but there not getting the whole meaning like somebody who was around when that song came out would cause they never lived that life they dont understand the meaning that song had or the effect it had on people living in that era

angrymaninc

all good answers... i mean i ain't going to front there's still music coming out now a days that i'll bump but it ain't the same as it was when i was coming up. Nowadays i find myself discrediting most of the new ish coming out more often than appreciating it; it kinda reminds me of the older folks imo

RuffDraft

Thread seems to be two halves.

1. I don't think you can categorise a generation. So the quote as stated in the thread title cannot be taken as gospel. It's true that a lot of 'youngins' won't know shit about hip hop. But then why would they? They missed a generation or three of the genre. Yet 'youngins' can always be schooled and a well-rounded 20 year old can have a better knowledge of the culture than a 30 year old (depending upon the extense of their interests and exposure).

2. Like @turfaholic states, the music is always expanding. The subject matter is what is lacking in the mainstream. But if you grow with the music then you'll likely find yourself underground if you're a fan of substance/politically-fuelled/socially conscious/life music. The following tracks are evidence of this…





Yet you have Kendrick Lamar and a number of other substance-driven artists who may make headway soon. So… it's neither here nor there.

As an 80s baby, I don't feel apart from hip hop music… but I do feel apart from the large majority of commercially-driven hip hop. I guess that's how a 70s baby felt about the latter 90s and early 00s though.

Bottom line: There's always a group of artists outputting music that's for you.

angrymaninc

RuffDraft wrote: »

Thread seems to be two halves.

1. I don't think you can categorise a generation. So the quote as stated in the thread title cannot be taken as gospel. It's true that a lot of 'youngins' won't know shit about hip hop. But then why would they? They missed a generation or three of the genre. Yet 'youngins' can always be schooled and a well-rounded 20 year old can have a better knowledge of the culture than a 30 year old (depending upon the extense of their interests and exposure).

2. Like @turfaholic states, the music is always expanding. The subject matter is what is lacking in the mainstream. But if you grow with the music then you'll likely find yourself underground if you're a fan of substance/politically-fuelled/socially conscious/life music. The following tracks are evidence of this…





Yet you have Kendrick Lamar and a number of other substance-driven artists who may make headway soon. So… it's neither here nor there.

As an 80s baby, I don't feel apart from hip hop music… but I do feel apart from the large majority of commercially-driven hip hop. I guess that's how a 70s baby felt about the latter 90s and early 00s though.

Bottom line: There's always a group of artists outputting music that's for you.

i ain't denying the fact that there is still good music that is coming out what i'm saying is that there's a lot of new cats getting praise that are really subpar

now me complaining about it seems reminiscent of when ppl used to tell me rap wasn't shit

RuffDraft

angrymaninc wrote: »

RuffDraft wrote: »

Thread seems to be two halves.

1. I don't think you can categorise a generation. So the quote as stated in the thread title cannot be taken as gospel. It's true that a lot of 'youngins' won't know shit about hip hop. But then why would they? They missed a generation or three of the genre. Yet 'youngins' can always be schooled and a well-rounded 20 year old can have a better knowledge of the culture than a 30 year old (depending upon the extense of their interests and exposure).

2. Like @turfaholic states, the music is always expanding. The subject matter is what is lacking in the mainstream. But if you grow with the music then you'll likely find yourself underground if you're a fan of substance/politically-fuelled/socially conscious/life music. The following tracks are evidence of this…





Yet you have Kendrick Lamar and a number of other substance-driven artists who may make headway soon. So… it's neither here nor there.

As an 80s baby, I don't feel apart from hip hop music… but I do feel apart from the large majority of commercially-driven hip hop. I guess that's how a 70s baby felt about the latter 90s and early 00s though.

Bottom line: There's always a group of artists outputting music that's for you.

i ain't denying the fact that there is still good music that is coming out what i'm saying is that there's a lot of new cats getting praise that are really subpar

now me complaining about it seems reminiscent of when ppl used to tell me rap wasn't shit

True. But then emceeing isn't why you get signed anymore and the majority of artists who are out right now understand that - which is why they're successful.

Definitely agree with you on all fronts though, except that Rap was always the shit - don't care what other people say, then or now.

angrymaninc

RuffDraft wrote: »

angrymaninc wrote: »

RuffDraft wrote: »

Thread seems to be two halves.

1. I don't think you can categorise a generation. So the quote as stated in the thread title cannot be taken as gospel. It's true that a lot of 'youngins' won't know shit about hip hop. But then why would they? They missed a generation or three of the genre. Yet 'youngins' can always be schooled and a well-rounded 20 year old can have a better knowledge of the culture than a 30 year old (depending upon the extense of their interests and exposure).

2. Like @turfaholic states, the music is always expanding. The subject matter is what is lacking in the mainstream. But if you grow with the music then you'll likely find yourself underground if you're a fan of substance/politically-fuelled/socially conscious/life music. The following tracks are evidence of this…





Yet you have Kendrick Lamar and a number of other substance-driven artists who may make headway soon. So… it's neither here nor there.

As an 80s baby, I don't feel apart from hip hop music… but I do feel apart from the large majority of commercially-driven hip hop. I guess that's how a 70s baby felt about the latter 90s and early 00s though.

Bottom line: There's always a group of artists outputting music that's for you.

i ain't denying the fact that there is still good music that is coming out what i'm saying is that there's a lot of new cats getting praise that are really subpar

now me complaining about it seems reminiscent of when ppl used to tell me rap wasn't shit

True. But then emceeing isn't why you get signed anymore and the majority of artists who are out right now understand that - which is why they're successful.

Definitely agree with you on all fronts though, except that Rap was always the shit - don't care what other people say, then or now.

That's something on which we can both agree on

nujerz84

Just peep Hot 97 Summerjam lineup... for the most part all new artist or artist that came out post 2002 it might be one of the worst Summerjam lineup in history.

angrymaninc

nujerz84 wrote: »

Just peep Hot 97 Summerjam lineup... for the most part all new artist or artist that came out post 2002 it might be one of the worst Summerjam lineup in history.

enlighten me... who's on the lineup?

nujerz84

Waka Flocka Flame, 2Chainz, French Montana, Maino, Young Jeezy, Rick Ross, DJ Khaled & Friends and Nicki Minaj


Big Sean, J Cole, MMG (Wale, Stalley, Meek Mills), Trey Songs

angrymaninc

nujerz84 wrote: »

Waka Flocka Flame, 2Chainz, French Montana, Maino, Young Jeezy, Rick Ross, DJ Khaled & Friends and Nicki Minaj


Big Sean, J Cole, MMG (Wale, Stalley, Meek Mills), Trey Songs

yea i see what you saying lol most of these cats are good for a laugh

BlackGerald

Krit, pusha, TDE, and asap rocky will be there as well. This line up is not that bad

angrymaninc

Black Jerry Maguire wrote: »

Krit, pusha, TDE, and asap rocky will be there as well. This line up is not that bad

oh there are definitely some good names up there... some of em though i just listen to cause they crack me up

32DaysOfInfiniti

Your not bitter, popular music is actually worse these days

angrymaninc

32DaysOfInfiniti wrote: »

Your not bitter, popular music is actually worse these days

But according to the younger generation we refuse to move on...

32DaysOfInfiniti

angrymaninc wrote: »

32DaysOfInfiniti wrote: »

Your not bitter, popular music is actually worse these days

But according to the younger generation we refuse to move on...

But really, they are the ones that refuse to move on. 20 years later and the "younger generation" is still talking about the same drugs, crime and filthy hoes that they were talking about in the early 90s.

As a matter a fact, they are regressing because now they tell the stories with less detail and forethought. I dont think it is us with the problem

We know reality and 9/10 as it did in the past, a detrimental lifestyle will lead to serious repercussions and setbacks and not lavish careless living that these uniformed youths seem to think

In Your Moms Room

False. You mad shit is changing and you can't keep up and adapt to it.

Bklyn's_OX_KING

Tell em why you mad son. I feel the same way sometimes T/S. I tried listening to the new age upcoming rappers but none of them interest me. We getting old yo. I feel like I'm trapped in the matrix of so much wackness and mundane rappers. I'm still waiting for the Neo of Emcees with this new generation.

angrymaninc

32DaysOfInfiniti wrote: »

angrymaninc wrote: »

32DaysOfInfiniti wrote: »

Your not bitter, popular music is actually worse these days

But according to the younger generation we refuse to move on...

But really, they are the ones that refuse to move on. 20 years laters and the "younger generation" is still talking about the same drugs, crime and filthy hoes that they were talking about in the early 90s.

As a matter a fact, they are regressing because now they tell the stories with less detail and forethought. I dont think it is us with the problem

We know reality and 9/10 as it did in the past, a detrimental lifestyle will lead to serious repercussions and setbacks and not lavish careless living that these uniformed youths seem to think

that's true though... like there are rappers that are still rhyming about the same shit they were rhyming about in the 90s... i'm just saying if you been rapping for about 20 years but meanwhile you've stayed on the block during that time then maybe it's time to drop the mic... just saying...

But going back to what i was saying originally... the new wave of artist coming out don't give me that same feeling as the ones that used to

32DaysOfInfiniti

I think for the most part, it is because they are telling stories weve already heard countless times before and now they arent even telling them right.

Its like when a parent tells a night time story to their kid. The kids think the story is exciting and new cause theyve never heard it before, but when they grow up and tell the same story to their kids. Only the parts they thought were important will make the story.

Now if grandpa were to come in one day and tell your kids his version of the same story after they been hearing your abridged microwave version, they will probably think your's is better cause its more prevalent to them. With age of course they will be able to take whats best from both and make their own but while we are young, we tend to take things as they are. Which is the biggest problem with radio these days...

Thats what were facing imo, same story less informed tellers.

Thats why its hard for us to feel it

nujerz84

angrymaninc wrote: »

Black Jerry Maguire wrote: »

Krit, pusha, TDE, and asap rocky will be there as well. This line up is not that bad

oh there are definitely some good names up there... some of em though i just listen to cause they crack me up

The lineupe of good mcs are not on the main stage but rather some fesitval shit before the big show.

SlickestR

if you're a Lover of MUSIC in general, it doesn't matter which genre it is, there's always going to be good music, you just gotta be open minded and keep your ear out there. It doesn't matter what year you were born or where you were born, there's always something from each generation that's going to catch your ear.

the artists, producers, the methods and the sound may change, but there's always going to be timeless music...

angrymaninc

SlickestR wrote: »

if you're a Lover of MUSIC in general, it doesn't matter which genre it is, there's always going to be good music, you just gotta be open minded and keep your ear out there. It doesn't matter what year you were born or where you were born, there's always something from each generation that's going to catch your ear.

the artists, producers, the methods and the sound may change, but there's always going to be timeless music...

and on that note you are right...

But really all i wanted to point out was how funny it was that our elders were telling us that our music sucks and how we are not chastising the slightly younger generation for nominating wayne as the best rapper alive... or whoever they feeling right now when we compare them to the ones we consider the greatest