Obama after 3 years...

kingblaze84

Sion. wrote: »

kingblaze84 wrote: »

Sion. wrote: »

@kingblaze

Something that Obama also deserves credit for is with what's happening with the dollar strengthening and oil and gold plummeting (b/c of the dollar), the Europeans and the rest of the world are pulling their money out of equities and Europe and are dumping them in the only country stable and doing well the U.S. and the U.S. dollar.

GDP growth rose 1.9 percent in the first quarter of 2012
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/glance.htm

2% is a lot btw, and that's only first quarter of the year. If that holds up it's possible that the U.S. GDP reaches 4-6% or even more. Even with Europe in shambles the U.S. is holding up quite well. Obama definitely deserves credit for that. Last time we even saw GDP go beyond 5% on a 15 trillion dollar economy was almost 10 years ago......

The dollar is stable compared to the Euro these days but that doesn't say much, considering the cost of living in America is still high, and inflation is preventing many business owners from creating jobs these days. Only 69,000 jobs were created last month, and the recovery is weakening. All job data showed a revision downward after months of research.

Obama isn't a horrible president, but far from a good one in my opinion. More jobs would have been created if Obama would mind his own fucking business in state rights and let medicinal marijuana shops be open without fear of the feds shutting them down. Obama can stop this but he's a stubborn hard ass who can't think outside of the box. More state jobs would also be open if we stopped building things overseas and spending money on constant bloodshed that creates more enemies overseas, and instead spend that money here in America. Obama deserves far less than an A- man lol, there's a reason so many of his own supporters are abandoning him these days. Obama is better than Bush, but not by much. He's a failed president in my opinion. His only positive is that he's better than Romney, but even than, Obama hasn't shown America any change at all. Bush might as well still be president, what has seriously changed? Nothing!

The bolded is not true. And the underlined is horse shit LOLOL. Buuuut I'll leave it alone.

You don't think the recovery is weakening???? Are you serious man?? 69,000 jobs created, less than Feb and Jan, and you don't think the recovery is weakening??? Sion, you okay? Who hacked your sn??

Shuffington

judging by the last 2 May months(10-11), the jobs created compared to prior months took a dip.... then there was an up tick in the summer and fall months. Its highly probable that this will ring true again.

Sion

kingblaze84 wrote: »

Sion. wrote: »

kingblaze84 wrote: »

Sion. wrote: »

@kingblaze

Something that Obama also deserves credit for is with what's happening with the dollar strengthening and oil and gold plummeting (b/c of the dollar), the Europeans and the rest of the world are pulling their money out of equities and Europe and are dumping them in the only country stable and doing well the U.S. and the U.S. dollar.

GDP growth rose 1.9 percent in the first quarter of 2012
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/glance.htm

2% is a lot btw, and that's only first quarter of the year. If that holds up it's possible that the U.S. GDP reaches 4-6% or even more. Even with Europe in shambles the U.S. is holding up quite well. Obama definitely deserves credit for that. Last time we even saw GDP go beyond 5% on a 15 trillion dollar economy was almost 10 years ago......

The dollar is stable compared to the Euro these days but that doesn't say much, considering the cost of living in America is still high, and inflation is preventing many business owners from creating jobs these days. Only 69,000 jobs were created last month, and the recovery is weakening. All job data showed a revision downward after months of research.

Obama isn't a horrible president, but far from a good one in my opinion. More jobs would have been created if Obama would mind his own fucking business in state rights and let medicinal marijuana shops be open without fear of the feds shutting them down. Obama can stop this but he's a stubborn hard ass who can't think outside of the box. More state jobs would also be open if we stopped building things overseas and spending money on constant bloodshed that creates more enemies overseas, and instead spend that money here in America. Obama deserves far less than an A- man lol, there's a reason so many of his own supporters are abandoning him these days. Obama is better than Bush, but not by much. He's a failed president in my opinion. His only positive is that he's better than Romney, but even than, Obama hasn't shown America any change at all. Bush might as well still be president, what has seriously changed? Nothing!

The bolded is not true. And the underlined is horse shit LOLOL. Buuuut I'll leave it alone.

You don't think the recovery is weakening???? Are you serious man?? 69,000 jobs created, less than Feb and Jan, and you don't think the recovery is weakening??? Sion, you okay? Who hacked your sn??

Bruh you gotta stop reading the tabloids & the huffington post and start read the Economist or Bloomberg LOLOL


- unemployment down from 12.1% to 8.2%

- has the whole world buying US dollars and as a result the price of oil & gold has been plummeting

- housing market coming back and is recovering quite well

- American corporations having record profits since the recession and many more stabilized

- automobile companies such as GM & Ford having record sales increases

- U.S. stock markets have finally covered the losses and then some sustained in 2008 with the Dow hitting 13k for the first time ever

- U.S. banks are more capitalized and are in the best shape they've ever been in their histories, shit even the small regional banks are holding up good numbers.


You said the dollar is stable to the Euro, you realize that there are countries that might leave the Euro and in doing so would crush and maybe even have the Euro eliminated for good right ? You also realize that everyone is pulling money out of Europe and buying up U.S. dollars right ?? Although highly debatable cost of living in the U.S. has gone down from what it was in the 50s. Back then a car was as big an investment as buying a house, now it's maaad common and 16 year olds are driving, but since most people are looking at more recent numbers b/c they never lived in those eras you might say it's higher. The dollar is cheaper too. Inflation right now or at any time in the last 4 years has not had any effect on hiring and 69k jobs created last month doesn't eliminate nor does it discredit the fact that unemployment is now 45% lower today than it was during the recession. THAT'S WHY I said it was horse shit LOLOL.

Recoveries aren't perfect upscale roads, they have hits and bumps but overall the recovery is NOT weakening. Look at where we were in the recession and look at where we are today. A few years ago, everyone (you included) thought the U.S. was gonna collapse and we'd all be living like Mad Max having to grow crops n shit (those were your words I remember) LOLOL. You can't name one country outside the United States that has seen such a recovery and isn't in beat up condition.


Aaannnnnd I just wanna say vote Barack Obama


Regards,
Sion.

Soloman the Wise

Sion. wrote: »

kingblaze84 wrote: »

Sion. wrote: »

kingblaze84 wrote: »

Sion. wrote: »

@kingblaze

Something that Obama also deserves credit for is with what's happening with the dollar strengthening and oil and gold plummeting (b/c of the dollar), the Europeans and the rest of the world are pulling their money out of equities and Europe and are dumping them in the only country stable and doing well the U.S. and the U.S. dollar.

GDP growth rose 1.9 percent in the first quarter of 2012
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/glance.htm

2% is a lot btw, and that's only first quarter of the year. If that holds up it's possible that the U.S. GDP reaches 4-6% or even more. Even with Europe in shambles the U.S. is holding up quite well. Obama definitely deserves credit for that. Last time we even saw GDP go beyond 5% on a 15 trillion dollar economy was almost 10 years ago......

The dollar is stable compared to the Euro these days but that doesn't say much, considering the cost of living in America is still high, and inflation is preventing many business owners from creating jobs these days. Only 69,000 jobs were created last month, and the recovery is weakening. All job data showed a revision downward after months of research.

Obama isn't a horrible president, but far from a good one in my opinion. More jobs would have been created if Obama would mind his own fucking business in state rights and let medicinal marijuana shops be open without fear of the feds shutting them down. Obama can stop this but he's a stubborn hard ass who can't think outside of the box. More state jobs would also be open if we stopped building things overseas and spending money on constant bloodshed that creates more enemies overseas, and instead spend that money here in America. Obama deserves far less than an A- man lol, there's a reason so many of his own supporters are abandoning him these days. Obama is better than Bush, but not by much. He's a failed president in my opinion. His only positive is that he's better than Romney, but even than, Obama hasn't shown America any change at all. Bush might as well still be president, what has seriously changed? Nothing!

The bolded is not true. And the underlined is horse shit LOLOL. Buuuut I'll leave it alone.

You don't think the recovery is weakening???? Are you serious man?? 69,000 jobs created, less than Feb and Jan, and you don't think the recovery is weakening??? Sion, you okay? Who hacked your sn??

Bruh you gotta stop reading the tabloids & the huffington post and start read the Economist or Bloomberg LOLOL


- unemployment down from 12.1% to 8.2%

- has the whole world buying US dollars and as a result the price of oil & gold has been plummeting

- housing market coming back and is recovering quite well

- American corporations having record profits since the recession and many more stabilized

- automobile companies such as GM & Ford having record sales increases

- U.S. stock markets have finally covered the losses and then some sustained in 2008 with the Dow hitting 13k for the first time ever

- U.S. banks are more capitalized and are in the best shape they've ever been in their histories, shit even the small regional banks are holding up good numbers.


You said the dollar is stable to the Euro, you realize that there are countries that might leave the Euro and in doing so would crush and maybe even have the Euro eliminated for good right ? You also realize that everyone is pulling money out of Europe and buying up U.S. dollars right ?? Although highly debatable cost of living in the U.S. has gone down from what it was in the 50s. Back then a car was as big an investment as buying a house, now it's maaad common and 16 year olds are driving, but since most people are looking at more recent numbers b/c they never lived in those eras you might say it's higher. The dollar is cheaper too. Inflation right now or at any time in the last 4 years has not had any effect on hiring and 69k jobs created last month doesn't eliminate nor does it discredit the fact that unemployment is now 45% lower today than it was during the recession. THAT'S WHY I said it was horse shit LOLOL.

Recoveries aren't perfect upscale roads, they have hits and bumps but overall the recovery is NOT weakening. Look at where we were in the recession and look at where we are today. A few years ago, everyone (you included) thought the U.S. was gonna collapse and we'd all be living like Mad Max having to grow crops n shit (those were your words I remember) LOLOL. You can't name one country outside the United States that has seen such a recovery and isn't in beat up condition.


Aaannnnnd I just wanna say vote Barack Obama


Regards,
Sion.

I do volunteer work helping Kats(mostly ex cons) find work those Numbers only reflect those collecting unemployment or ineligable for unemployment but applied. Actual Numbers for here in the US ewhen you factor in those that have given up looking are close to 13% if you count the underemployed the numbers hit 18% the medias deception is a spin tactic the economy is still severely hurting here in the United States. Politicians are Okey Doking you kats that will eat it up in this election year. It is sad that so many are so easily mislead and help further spread the propaganda. It oes nto matter either Romney or Obama the end results will be the smae and this shit is NOt all Georgies fault we were entering an economic downslope when Clinton left office and Bush did nothign to slow it down only sped it up with his ineptitude and war focus...

Soloman the Wise

At first glance, the latest jobs report for the month of April shows some promising signs: 115,000 jobs created and a lower official unemployment rate, albeit only by one-tenth of a percent. Unfortunately, things are not always what they seem and, in this instance, a closer look reveals something much different. Overshadowing April’s small job growth is the overwhelming number of Americans who have given up looking for work and dropped out of the labor force altogether. According to the numbers, 522,000 people simply gave up their job searches. Some grew tired and frustrated. Others perhaps decided to return to school or start retraining, in hope of following a new career path. No matter the reason, they are unemployed and therefore should be counted along with every other person without a job.

Not so. Instead, the official unemployment rate treats this subset of Americans, totaling as many as 88 million people, as if they just vanished.

Call it what is, an accounting gimmick intended to make the unemployment rate appear lower by purposely ignoring millions of Americans who should otherwise be listed as unemployed. Compared to the official unemployment rate of 8.1 percent, the civilian labor-participation rate now registers at 63.6 percent, its smallest size since the 1980s.

Counting those not in the labor force, but who have indicated a desire to work would put the national unemployment rate somewhere around 11 percent. An alternative measure calculated by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the U-5 rate, one of six measures calculated monthly that incorporates many of these individuals, reports a jobless rate of 9.5 percent.

The U-5 rate specifically calculates those who are considered “marginally attached” to the workforce, meaning these individuals are not in the labor force, but are available and ready to work. Since these individuals are not recorded as looking for work in the weeks preceding the monthly jobs survey, they are not counted in the official unemployment rate.

The fact that more Americans are dropping out of the workforce than new jobs are being created is troubling. At the same time, it is disingenuous for the White House to take credit for miscalculated job growth while millions of Americans are frustrated and discouraged to the point that they are giving up their job searches.

Addressing this backslide in the labor force presents a significant policy challenge, but no less important is coming to the realization that these unemployed Americans are as much a part of this country as those who the federal government selectively counts and highlights each month when the official unemployment rate is announced.

They deserve to be counted. And factoring them into the calculation should not be viewed as an attempt to perpetuate grandstanding or finger-pointing. The value is in the insight and understanding provided to policymakers, taxpayers and anyone else with a real interest in job creation and economic recovery, based on a reliable and honest assessment of the actual unemployment situation.

Several months ago, I introduced H.R. 4128, the Real Unemployment Calculation Act in the House of Representatives. The legislation would force the Bureau of Labor Statistics to cite the current U-5 calculation - consisting of people marginally attached to the workforce - as the primary unemployment measurement of the federal government.

Every administration and lawmaker has an obligation to be straightforward and truthful with the American people. Calling attention to a lower unemployment rate, knowing full well that millions of Americans are on the sidelines and going uncounted, is an attempt to mislead others on the conditions that most Americans know exist.

Americans are always eager for the truth, no matter how hard it is to take. Continuing to distract and base policy on questionable or incomplete information is a disservice to every American, working or not, who is committed to a successful and prosperous future for themselves and the entire country.

kingblaze84

Sion. wrote: »

kingblaze84 wrote: »

Sion. wrote: »

kingblaze84 wrote: »

Sion. wrote: »

@kingblaze

Something that Obama also deserves credit for is with what's happening with the dollar strengthening and oil and gold plummeting (b/c of the dollar), the Europeans and the rest of the world are pulling their money out of equities and Europe and are dumping them in the only country stable and doing well the U.S. and the U.S. dollar.

GDP growth rose 1.9 percent in the first quarter of 2012
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/glance.htm

2% is a lot btw, and that's only first quarter of the year. If that holds up it's possible that the U.S. GDP reaches 4-6% or even more. Even with Europe in shambles the U.S. is holding up quite well. Obama definitely deserves credit for that. Last time we even saw GDP go beyond 5% on a 15 trillion dollar economy was almost 10 years ago......

The dollar is stable compared to the Euro these days but that doesn't say much, considering the cost of living in America is still high, and inflation is preventing many business owners from creating jobs these days. Only 69,000 jobs were created last month, and the recovery is weakening. All job data showed a revision downward after months of research.

Obama isn't a horrible president, but far from a good one in my opinion. More jobs would have been created if Obama would mind his own fucking business in state rights and let medicinal marijuana shops be open without fear of the feds shutting them down. Obama can stop this but he's a stubborn hard ass who can't think outside of the box. More state jobs would also be open if we stopped building things overseas and spending money on constant bloodshed that creates more enemies overseas, and instead spend that money here in America. Obama deserves far less than an A- man lol, there's a reason so many of his own supporters are abandoning him these days. Obama is better than Bush, but not by much. He's a failed president in my opinion. His only positive is that he's better than Romney, but even than, Obama hasn't shown America any change at all. Bush might as well still be president, what has seriously changed? Nothing!

The bolded is not true. And the underlined is horse shit LOLOL. Buuuut I'll leave it alone.

You don't think the recovery is weakening???? Are you serious man?? 69,000 jobs created, less than Feb and Jan, and you don't think the recovery is weakening??? Sion, you okay? Who hacked your sn??

Bruh you gotta stop reading the tabloids & the huffington post and start read the Economist or Bloomberg LOLOL


- unemployment down from 12.1% to 8.2%

- has the whole world buying US dollars and as a result the price of oil & gold has been plummeting

- housing market coming back and is recovering quite well

- American corporations having record profits since the recession and many more stabilized

- automobile companies such as GM & Ford having record sales increases

- U.S. stock markets have finally covered the losses and then some sustained in 2008 with the Dow hitting 13k for the first time ever

- U.S. banks are more capitalized and are in the best shape they've ever been in their histories, shit even the small regional banks are holding up good numbers.


You said the dollar is stable to the Euro, you realize that there are countries that might leave the Euro and in doing so would crush and maybe even have the Euro eliminated for good right ? You also realize that everyone is pulling money out of Europe and buying up U.S. dollars right ?? Although highly debatable cost of living in the U.S. has gone down from what it was in the 50s. Back then a car was as big an investment as buying a house, now it's maaad common and 16 year olds are driving, but since most people are looking at more recent numbers b/c they never lived in those eras you might say it's higher. The dollar is cheaper too. Inflation right now or at any time in the last 4 years has not had any effect on hiring and 69k jobs created last month doesn't eliminate nor does it discredit the fact that unemployment is now 45% lower today than it was during the recession. THAT'S WHY I said it was horse shit LOLOL.

Recoveries aren't perfect upscale roads, they have hits and bumps but overall the recovery is NOT weakening. Look at where we were in the recession and look at where we are today. A few years ago, everyone (you included) thought the U.S. was gonna collapse and we'd all be living like Mad Max having to grow crops n shit (those were your words I remember) LOLOL. You can't name one country outside the United States that has seen such a recovery and isn't in beat up condition.


Aaannnnnd I just wanna say vote Barack Obama


Regards,
Sion.

Whoa, I never said America would be so bad in a few years we'd be living like Mad Max lol, what I said is there's potential for us to live like that, and many Americans already are. America is still on the wrong track overall, the only reason the economy hasn't fallen off a cliff (yet) is because of monopoly money. The govt is printing dollars like there's no tmw, and luckily, investors don't seem to mind the huge debt yet. But there will be a day when this monstrous debt will eat us alive, and thanks to inflation, it slowly is already. Ask the avg American how they feel about the cost of living these days, it's outrageous. And how can you possibly say inflation hasn't had an effect on hiring??!!!

Hiring is very expensive compared to years past, and guess what? Most new jobs being created are in low wage industries, check out the jobs reports for the past year. In fact, just check out this report from CNN.com and come back to me.......

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/05/opinion/etzioni-economy-deadlines/index.html

Washington (CNN) -- You do not have to be an investor in the stock market or real estate or looking for a job to be alarmed when several highly regarded observers warn that the United States economy is about to be driven "off the cliff" by increasing debt, the expiration of tax cuts and the prospect of deep spending cuts.

The alarm should concern anyone who cares about our democratic system.

The reason we are getting awfully close to the edge is because the Democrats and Republicans are inclined to pull the steering wheel in opposite directions. Granted, alarms are often sounded, but as we shall see shortly, this time there are strong reasons to fear that our gridlocked political system will prevent us from responding before we go over the edge.

The most authoritative voice speaking out this time is that of Ben Bernanke, the chairman of the Federal Reserve. He stated recently that, "It is very important to say that if no action were to be taken by the fiscal authorities, the size of the fiscal cliff is such that there is, I think, absolutely no chance that the Federal Reserve could or would have any ability whatsoever to offset that effect on the economy."

kingblaze84

Sion B, what's gonna happen when the monopoly money is put to a screeching halt? What's gonna happen than? Spending countless money in foreign countries and on losing wars while extending stupid deficit exploding tax cuts for the rich isn't very smart. Look at this other report if you really believe the economic recovery isn't weakening.....69,000 jobs last month dog, 69,000

http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/05/news/companies/hyundai--montgomery-alabama-jobs/index.htm?iid=HP_Highlight

ATLANTA (CNNMoney) -- When Hyundai announced in April it was planning to bring hundreds of new jobs to Montgomery, Ala., the news was met with excitement by local officials eager to boost the flagging economy.

But the reaction from job seekers has been nothing less than overwhelming.

Almost 22,000 applicants met the June 2 deadline to file online for 877 new jobs coming to Hyundai's assembly plant. The jobs would add a third shift and bring the total job tally at the facility to more than 3,000.

Sion

Ugghhh alright u guys win LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. This is getting redundant, better if we let time be the dictator of what happens LOLOL.

Anyways vote OBAMA !

janklow

kingblaze84 wrote: »

Whoa, I never said America would be so bad in a few years we'd be living like Mad Max

so i've got all these guns and dune buggies for nothing? lame

kingblaze84

Sion. wrote: »

Ugghhh alright u guys win LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. This is getting redundant, better if we let time be the dictator of what happens LOLOL.

Anyways vote OBAMA !

LOL........hey what can I say, I'm a good debater. I rarely lose debates, not including sports debates lately, all my basketball teams have been losing in the playoffs minus the Heat.

Won't vote for Obama though, sorry! Try to find some good arguments supporting endless wars without serious change from Bush's years and get back to me homie = )

kingblaze84

janklow wrote: »

kingblaze84 wrote: »

Whoa, I never said America would be so bad in a few years we'd be living like Mad Max

so i've got all these guns and dune buggies for nothing? lame

Hey, check out what CNN.com said, America is heading for a financial cliff. Keep stocking on the ammo and dune buggies man, you'll likely need them, sooner than you may expect. I'm mad I'm only armed with a couple of butcher knives and an icepick.

kingblaze84

SawedOff-N-SkiMask wrote: »

So the answer to yalls problem is being stubborn and easily submissive.


Let the white speak out and have all of the say while we sit back and complain about things we can actually help. And you guys r aware that Bush and Cheney actually put in place some good ass laws right?...or r u just buying into the propaganda yourselves?


Black Americans may still be going thru a Cold War but that's no reason to give the easy 'W' to our oppressors.

Romney is worse, if that's what you're trying to say, but Obama hasn't exactly been a liberator either.....more Black people have been locked up for minor drug offenses under Obama than even under George W Bush's reign. By hundreds of thousands more. What does that tell you? Whose side is Obama on? Aside from the gay vote of course lol

kingblaze84

^^^Because Obama is a bitch made coward and refuses to create change by at least supporting the decriminalization of marijuana. Something that would create jobs, revenue, and help lower the prison population, thereby saving money. One poll shows 56% of American voters now support decriminalizing or legalizing marijuana, but Obama has his dick so far up the ass of pharmaceutical companies, he won't support real change. Cops are hard asses when it comes to our youth, but Obama is giving them ammunition by not changing drug policy. SMFH

A.J. Trillzynski

aye ya'll - vote Obama so my stocks can stay going up and i can keep making this money.

thanks

kingblaze84

SawedOff-N-SkiMask wrote: »

I feel u, I wish weed was decriminalized too. That's still not going to stop Cops, Lawyers, Judges, and Politicians from not giving a fuck about "our best interests".


U can't hold Obama as the root of your dislike for Politucians and Presidents. Obama is the closet thing we'll have to a great President in this day and age, if u believe otherwise you aren't paying attention and you're one of those "super-semi experts" Doctor Dre was talking about earlier.


If u want results then kill/kidnap your local Politicians by the bundle. But you're probably too lazy to actually do something about your life.

Me lazy? Never. I work for a high powered law firm and make good money, have fun with my life and all that. It doesn't change the fact that I'm still disappointed in the "change" that was supposed to happen, especially when there is a president in the White House who isn't much of a fighter these days. It's one thing to be a president held hostage by Congress, it's another when one is a president and doesn't fight hard for what he believes. And the things he DOES believe in, like neverending wars and no change in drug policy, proves Cornel West right when he says Obama is nothing more than a slave to corporate interests, which is very true.And when he does fight, he backs down like a bitch every time. As far as kidnapping and killing politicians, I won't state my true feelings on that subject, for obvious reasons. But believe me, if I had a red button to push, most of Washington DC would disappear tonight. TRUST!!!!

kingblaze84

And if Obama is the closest thing we have to a great president these days, I can't move away from this country fast enough.......I'm counting my dollars closely so I can move away by the time I retire. My boss says this every day....

CottonCitySlim

You guys are idiots, the president is not the problem its the house and senate thats the problem and since they are state elected..we will always have problems because most people ignore state elections

kingblaze84

SawedOff-N-SkiMask wrote: »

You niggaz r so petrified that u can't tell a good thing when u c it. How come white people can Mobb up but black people and Latin people can't (we're 94 million deep)?


Y'all don't realize the tricks being played onto y'all thru the media and these little news articles here n there like the 1 thread on here on this first page talking about AfriCOM, it's little shit like that that distorts everything. Fact of the matter is y'all couldn't tell me 10 specific things (without googling them) that Obama has done Good and done Bad but yet y'all have all of this displaced criticism about him and don't really know the job of the President. You should be bitching at Congress but yet you bitch at the President when he doesn't really have shit to do with 70% of the shit u bit h about. That's about as "cut n dry" as I can be

What good thing LMAO

SawedOff-N-SkiMask wrote: »

You niggaz r so petrified that u can't tell a good thing when u c it. How come white people can Mobb up but black people and Latin people can't (we're 94 million deep)?


Y'all don't realize the tricks being played onto y'all thru the media and these little news articles here n there like the 1 thread on here on this first page talking about AfriCOM, it's little shit like that that distorts everything. Fact of the matter is y'all couldn't tell me 10 specific things (without googling them) that Obama has done Good and done Bad but yet y'all have all of this displaced criticism about him and don't really know the job of the President. You should be bitching at Congress but yet you bitch at the President when he doesn't really have shit to do with 70% of the shit u bit h about. That's about as "cut n dry" as I can be

I can't tell a good thing when I see it?? LMAO what the fuck are you smoking homie? You think spending billions a week in Afghanistan while American cities, social programs, and infrastructure is going bankrupt A GOOD THING??

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Funny post man....funny post. Obama is a bloodthirsty warmonger that has sold his soul to weapon and resource grabbing companies that want neverending wars. How the fuck is that a good thing??

Many, if not most, Democrats in the Senate and the House for the most part oppose the war in Afghanistan, and would have helped fight with Obama to end the wars but bloodthirsty Obama wants to stay in Afghanistan until 2024 LMAO.......how is this a good thing? Obama sucks as a president until you can prove to me otherwise.

kingblaze84

SawedOff-N-SkiMask wrote: »

^^^ Bingo ^^^


The fact IS that most people don't know, don't care, or what goes on in Elections. That might be a "funny" but it's not funny (its very oppressing actually). Too many of u dumb niggaz r too lazy to Google shit that's more than 5 letters

Please man, Obama is a failed president in so many ways it's not even funny, if he TRULY wants to help the economy improve, he would let states operate medicinal marijuana shops and create thousands upon thousands of jobs but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Bitch made Obama wants to crackdown on medicinal marijuana shops, all because pharmaceutical companies don't want the competition. Obama has had petitions handed to him by tons of Democrats and independents such as myself, asking him to tell the Department of Justice to stop the raids, but Obama, being a bitch made nigga and all, refuses to budge.

And yeah, Obama lost the House in 2010, guess why?? Because Americans didn't see any change, Obama should have taken advantage of the massive support and goodwill he had in 2009 and 2010, but Obama didn't do shit except promise to stay in Afghanistan a lot longer and......man I can't even think of much else he did, except bail out rich companies with tax payer dollars while giving crumbs to the middle and working class. Niggas aren't having Obama's back like they used to because Obama has been a huge disappointment, he extended the Bush tax cuts and sucks so much Republican dick he's actually governed like one.

kingblaze84

MobTown wrote: »

You guys are idiots, the president is not the problem its the house and senate thats the problem and since they are state elected..we will always have problems because most people ignore state elections

Obama has the power to tell the Department of Justice to end the raids against medical marijuana shops, but he hasn't done so. This would improve the economy dramatically, because if states and businesses wouldn't be threatened so much by the federal govt, they would flourish and create hundreds of thousands of jobs nationwide. There have been studies on this. Obama is a coward for refusing to do this.

Obama WANTS America to keep spending endless tax dollars in Afghanistan, despite American cities like Detroit and tons of others going bankrupt. Obama has become part of the problem, and he is indeed a big problem at this point, not as big a problem as Republicans but still a problem. Obama gets hate cuz he doesn't fight like he used to, and when he does fight for something, he backs down like a bitch, such was the case with the Bush tax cuts. I want a warrior as president, not a little bitch who governs like a half assed Republican. Obama would get my vote in November if he at least had balls and fought for the right thing. But Obama is a PUSSY, with a capital P. Straight PUSSY.

To win support in my case, fighting to end the wasteful war in Afghanistan, never extending the Bush tax cuts to begin with, and telling the Department of Justice to end the raids against medical marijuana. Even if he would have failed at these things, if he at least HAD BALLS to fight for these things, he would have my respect back. OH, and guess what??

Most Americans support an end to the Afghan war. Most Americans support medical marijuana, which would create hundreds of thousands of jobs if it wasn't being so persecuted. And most Americans disapproved of Obama extending the Bush tax cuts, which further bankrupted the country.

Soloman the Wise

Adding Up the Government’s Total Bailout Tab

Beyond the $700 billion bailout known as TARP, which has been used to prop up banks and car companies, the government has created an array of other programs to provide support to the struggling financial system. Through April 30, the government has made commitments of about $12.2 trillion and spent $2.5 trillion — but also has collected more than $10 billion in dividends and fees. Here is an overview, organized by the role the government has assumed in each case.







The Government as Investor

Commited $9.0 trillion

Spent: $1.6 trillion

Includes direct investments in financial institutions, purchases of high-grade corporate debt and purchases of mortgage-backed securities issued by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Ginnie Mae.



The Government as Insurer

Commited $1.7 trillion

Spent: $330 billion

Includes insuring debt issued by financial institutions and guaranteeing poorly performing assets owned by banks and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.



The Government as Lender

Commited $1.4 trillion

Spent: $528 billion

A significant expansion of the government's traditional overnight lending to banks, including extending terms to as many as 90 days and allowing borrowing by other financial institutions.





Money market funds The Treasury originally guaranteed these accounts up to $50 billion, but the program has been extended by the Fed, which has in a few cases had to step in to buy illiquid assets of some funds to help them meet obligations. The Treasury has received $814 million in fees from participating mutual funds. Some 1,900 funds are participating.


Committed: $3 trillion

Spent: $4 billion





Commercial paper The Federal Reserve has become the buyer of last resort in the $1.6 trillion commercial paper market.


Commited $1.6 trillion

Spent $178 billion





Federal Home Loan Bank securities The Treasury and the Federal Reserve have begun buying debt and mortgage-backed securities from Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Ginnie Mae.


Commited $1.5 trillion

Spent $641 billion





Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility (TALF) This program, launched on March 3, will provide loans and accept securities backed by consumer and small-business loans as collateral. Note: $100 billion of the total amount committed comes from the Troubled Asset Relief Program.


Commited $900 billion

Spent $5 billion





Public-private investment fund The Treasury announced details of this program on March 23. The government will seek private investors and use a combination of private and public money to buy nonperforming assets from banks. Note: $100 billion of the total amount committed comes from the Troubled Asset Relief Program.


Commited up to $900 billion

Spent $0 billion





Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) | See TARP recipients » In return for bailout cash, the Treasury now owns stock in hundreds of banks, General Motors, Chrysler and the insurer A.I.G. The largest recipients are A.I.G. ($70 billion), Bank of America ($45 billion) and Citigroup ($45 billion cash and $5 billion in support of a loan guarantee). The investments are in the form of preferred stock that pays quarterly dividends, which to date total $2.5 billion.


Commited $700 billion

Spent $645 billion




Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac The companies were put into conservatorship and the Treasury initally pledged up to $200 billion to cover their losses. Freddie Mac has now received almost $45 billion and Fannie Mae $15 billion.


Commited $400 billion

Spent $60 billion





A.I.G. The Federal Reserve has provided seed money to create investment vehicles to buy, hold and possibly dispose of bad securities held or insured by A.I.G.


Commited $53 billion

Spent $42 billion





Bear Stearns The Federal Reserve bought distressed assets from Bear Stearns to facilitate its sale to JPMorgan Chase.


Commited $29 billion

Spent $29 billion





Reserve U.S. Government Fund Despite the name, this was a private fund, not part of the government. It was the first big money market fund to experience liquidity problems, and the Treasury eventually bought some high-quality assets to help the fund unwind.


Commited $4 billion

Spent $2 billion

This is what we have promised to spend and then spent so far as of last year $2,397,700,000,000, that translate to a rebate of almost $21,000 each household could have received which would have stemmed the recession/mortgage crisis and spurred buying(automobiles included) and if we factor in what has been commited over $105,000 per household could be spent helping the people rather then filling corporate pockets which again in the end would have kept those companies in business without the need for company bailouts...

Soloman the Wise

SawedOff-N-SkiMask wrote: »

It sounds like your only beef with Obama is Weed and the war overseas that he's helped calm down dramatically. If you're a Crip and you're beef is with a set down the street that's been fuckin with u for quite sometime then it's just not going to stop overnight. A lot of people are Superficial about the Presidency of the United States.


Now while I share the same sediments about Weed (not medical marijuana that you're trying to pass it off as just to sound more intelligent and intellectual), its not the deciding factor for Me and Most People in the election of 2012. Talking as if Mitt Romney (the real life only other Candidate to vote for) will do any better is histerical.

while I share the same beliefs in a lot of cases as he who you directed this quote to I realize it was not for me but I will adress it in part. What could Mitt do worse then Obama? The case has been made by multiple people in this thread that the Pres does not have real power to effect change that lies in the House and and Senate. With that being the case if I am not mistaken Romney was a successful former CEO before he became a Governor. All of that sounds like he has more experience in regards to fiscal management then Obama who was simply a lawyer before becoming a senator. So again what would Romney make Worse with his experience? That said both canidates are trash in different areas and Ron Paul would be the better choice if the system had any type equal representation for all parties. But sadly both canidates will continue the same agendas of big corporate(just different Corps) as they are 2 sides of the same coin...

Soloman the Wise

SawedOff-N-SkiMask wrote: »

Becuz Romney only wants the Win, Barack wanted to be President.

I know what you're saying but his business experience is being overrated. I fuck bitches for hours but I'm no PornoStar

But again though the presidency is the Win which Barack wants also so they are chasing the same Dream. Right now the biggest issue to me and most others is the economy which contrary to the media spin is not improving. I honestly feel neither canidates policies will do anything to make things better but I can say Romney probaly knows a more about budgeting and meeting the bottom line then Obama has shown thus far. On your other comment only thing preventing you if you have the stamina from being a Porn star is you and filming the act, it is simply a choice like any other...

EmM HoLLa.

Soloman the Wise wrote: »

Adding Up the Government’s Total Bailout Tab

Beyond the $700 billion bailout known as TARP, which has been used to prop up banks and car companies, the government has created an array of other programs to provide support to the struggling financial system. Through April 30, the government has made commitments of about $12.2 trillion and spent $2.5 trillion — but also has collected more than $10 billion in dividends and fees. Here is an overview, organized by the role the government has assumed in each case.







The Government as Investor

Commited $9.0 trillion

Spent: $1.6 trillion

Includes direct investments in financial institutions, purchases of high-grade corporate debt and purchases of mortgage-backed securities issued by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Ginnie Mae.



The Government as Insurer

Commited $1.7 trillion

Spent: $330 billion

Includes insuring debt issued by financial institutions and guaranteeing poorly performing assets owned by banks and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.



The Government as Lender

Commited $1.4 trillion

Spent: $528 billion

A significant expansion of the government's traditional overnight lending to banks, including extending terms to as many as 90 days and allowing borrowing by other financial institutions.





Money market funds The Treasury originally guaranteed these accounts up to $50 billion, but the program has been extended by the Fed, which has in a few cases had to step in to buy illiquid assets of some funds to help them meet obligations. The Treasury has received $814 million in fees from participating mutual funds. Some 1,900 funds are participating.


Committed: $3 trillion

Spent: $4 billion





Commercial paper The Federal Reserve has become the buyer of last resort in the $1.6 trillion commercial paper market.


Commited $1.6 trillion

Spent $178 billion





Federal Home Loan Bank securities The Treasury and the Federal Reserve have begun buying debt and mortgage-backed securities from Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Ginnie Mae.


Commited $1.5 trillion

Spent $641 billion





Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility (TALF) This program, launched on March 3, will provide loans and accept securities backed by consumer and small-business loans as collateral. Note: $100 billion of the total amount committed comes from the Troubled Asset Relief Program.


Commited $900 billion

Spent $5 billion





Public-private investment fund The Treasury announced details of this program on March 23. The government will seek private investors and use a combination of private and public money to buy nonperforming assets from banks. Note: $100 billion of the total amount committed comes from the Troubled Asset Relief Program.


Commited up to $900 billion

Spent $0 billion





Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) | See TARP recipients » In return for bailout cash, the Treasury now owns stock in hundreds of banks, General Motors, Chrysler and the insurer A.I.G. The largest recipients are A.I.G. ($70 billion), Bank of America ($45 billion) and Citigroup ($45 billion cash and $5 billion in support of a loan guarantee). The investments are in the form of preferred stock that pays quarterly dividends, which to date total $2.5 billion.


Commited $700 billion

Spent $645 billion




Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac The companies were put into conservatorship and the Treasury initally pledged up to $200 billion to cover their losses. Freddie Mac has now received almost $45 billion and Fannie Mae $15 billion.


Commited $400 billion

Spent $60 billion





A.I.G. The Federal Reserve has provided seed money to create investment vehicles to buy, hold and possibly dispose of bad securities held or insured by A.I.G.


Commited $53 billion

Spent $42 billion





Bear Stearns The Federal Reserve bought distressed assets from Bear Stearns to facilitate its sale to JPMorgan Chase.


Commited $29 billion

Spent $29 billion





Reserve U.S. Government Fund Despite the name, this was a private fund, not part of the government. It was the first big money market fund to experience liquidity problems, and the Treasury eventually bought some high-quality assets to help the fund unwind.


Commited $4 billion

Spent $2 billion

This is what we have promised to spend and then spent so far as of last year $2,397,700,000,000, that translate to a rebate of almost $21,000 each household could have received which would have stemmed the recession/mortgage crisis and spurred buying(automobiles included) and if we factor in what has been commited over $105,000 per household could be spent helping the people rather then filling corporate pockets which again in the end would have kept those companies in business without the need for company bailouts...

You mention inflation is a big issue in this country... BUt if you gave every american household over 100k to spend.. Dont you think inflation would become an issue?..

Soloman the Wise

SawedOff-N-SkiMask wrote: »

Even tho u pm'd me begging me to change the title of the topic in fear of someone actually telling telling the truth, I'm not going to respond to u by PM I'm going to address it here.


When u can tell me 10 good things and 10 bad things Obama has done and signed then we can discuss it. Until then you're blindly reaching for something that isn't there and trying to be passé about it isn't gonna get u out of it or make u neutral.


Like I said, people are SUPERFICIAL about the Presidency of the United States and are really ill informed on the role of the President (aka the Scapegoat). A Politicians main weapon is the ignorance of the people he serves, why, becuz most people don't actually know who they are, what they're for, AND what they actually do. Being a Congressmen is 1 of the sweetest Hustles in the world, the President on the other hand gets blamed for everything everybody else does.


If u don't know what he's done this past 4 years years and at the same time expected him to have a total 180 on the Economy then you're an idiot and I would love to delegate your district of residency.

wow what kind of spin dooctor are you???

I PM'd you about a different thread but here I will post our conversations so there can be no discrepancy...

SawedOff-N-SkiMask and you


Soloman the Wise6:44PM

Hey I wanted to ask you if I could chnge your thread title onDo u really believe that all of these latest election numbers between the Democrats and Republicans? and make it the official2012 election thread then sticky it? I was gonna create a new thread for it but after reading yours I thought the topic line and comments to date would be perfect for the thread. you would keep all thread creation creditas all I would change is the title. Let me Know if not I understand and will just make a new thread...



SawedOff-N-SkiMask7:18PM

Please just make a new thread. Thank u



SawedOff-N-SkiMask7:23PM

You want the little kids and the misinformed youth to believe that it's a fair ball game in Politics and the White House when it's not even close to that. I'm not down with putting Obama and Romney on the same pedistal becuz u have some kind of agenda against whatever. Maybe if u actually visited Obama's website and read the PDF files about what he's signed then u'd feel the same way. Read a book, analyze, if ur not down with that then miss me with all of that



Soloman the Wise7:40PM

Did you mean to message me that last one or was that supposed to be a reply for the thread about Obama's 1st 3 years? as to the rest of it I read Obama's shit it does not impress me neither canidate Impresses me as you can see by my posts. Obama is full of the same shit as Romney he just spews it in different ways if you cannot see that I am sorry for you and the veil you have on...

that said I see you have some type of agenda, but you do your self a diservice when you are so easily disproven. Weird shit is I do not even get what you are trying to do other then make yourself look dumb and like a sheeple with a twist and turn agenda against anyone who posts facts versus the propaganda you are pushing...