‘Obama Girl’ is ‘not as excited’ about 2012, won’t endorse Obama
Amber Lee Ettinger, widely known as “Obama Girl” during the 2008 presidential campaign, told The Daily Caller she is “not as excited as I was the last time, that’s for sure.”
The model-actress became a nationally known celebrity after starring in the viral YouTube video “Crush on Obama.”
“Barack Obama was definitely the first ‘Internet President,’” she said, describing her experiences during the last cycle as “quite a roller coaster ride.”
This time, however, Ettinger won’t say if she still supports Obama.
“At this point I’m keeping that to myself,” she told TheDC. “If I’m not making videos, I’m not sure it’s anyone’s business who I’m voting for this time around.”
“I think in the next few months it’s going to be very interesting to see what happens,” Ettinger said. ”I’d like to get out there and see what the young voters think about both candidates… I might need to break out my flip cam and take a road trip.”
It sounds like your only beef with Obama is Weed and the war overseas that he's helped calm down dramatically. If you're a Crip and you're beef is with a set down the street that's been fuckin with u for quite sometime then it's just not going to stop overnight. A lot of people are Superficial about the Presidency of the United States.
Now while I share the same sediments about Weed (not medical marijuana that you're trying to pass it off as just to sound more intelligent and intellectual), its not the deciding factor for Me and Most People in the election of 2012. Talking as if Mitt Romney (the real life only other Candidate to vote for) will do any better is histerical.
Goes a lot beyond weed and war lol.....Obama just isn't fighting for change enough in general, too timid and too weak.
Marijuana Decriminalization: Efforts To Relax Pot Rules Gaining Momentum In U.S.
A survey by Rasmussen last month found that 56 percent of respondents favored legalizing and regulating marijuana. A national Gallup poll last year showed support for legalizing pot had reached 50 percent, up from 46 percent in 2010 and 25 percent in the mid-'90s.
Medical marijuana helped bring marijuana policy into the mainstream back in 1996, when California became the first state to authorize the use of cannabis for medicinal use. Other states followed suit.
"It's now politically viable to talk about these things," said Robert Capecchi, legislative analyst with the Marijuana Policy Project, a Washington, D.C.-based group that supports the reduction or elimination of penalties for medical and recreational pot use. "The public understands that there are substances that are far more harmful – alcohol, tobacco – that we regulate. People are realizing just how much money is being wasted on prohibition."
Colorado and Washington state will hold fall referendums on legalizing marijuana. A ballot question on legalization failed in California in 2010.
This month, Connecticut's governor signed legislation to allow medical marijuana there. Last week, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo proposed cutting the penalty for public possession of small amounts of pot.
Liberal state policies on marijuana have run into conflict with federal prohibition. Federal authorities have shut down more than 40 dispensaries this year in Colorado, even though they complied with state and local law. In Rhode Island, Gov. Lincoln Chafee blocked three dispensaries from opening last year after the state's top federal prosecutor warned they could be prosecuted.
--Let's see if Obama can get with the program or remain the big Uncle Scrooge as he's been for the last 3 years now.
Fam u wonder why I backed away from this thread ? Never argue with an idiot cuz from far away you can't tell who's who. Niggas have their minds made up, the truth is in front of them but niggas choose to ignore it. Just let them have their pyrrhic victory LOL.
It's near impossible to have an objective debate about politics b/c almost EVERYBODY has a personal problem with the way a politician does something.
Obama saved the United States from collapse what else more is there to say ? And instead of praise he gets tomatoes thrown at him from spoiled brats who are mad he had to give Wall Street a bailout to save the whole country, cuz he pulled the troops out and ended the war and more. I bet you the same niggas hatin on the man will be the same niggas who will vote for him too..... but if you ask them they'll tell you Romney and Obama are somehow the "same" so there's no sense in them voting at all.... RIIIIIIGHT LOLOLOLOLOL.
Fam u wonder why I backed away from this thread ? Never argue with an idiot cuz from far away you can't tell who's who. Niggas have their minds made up, the truth is in front of them but niggas choose to ignore it. Just let them have their pyrrhic victory LOL.
It's near impossible to have an objective debate about politics b/c almost EVERYBODY has a personal problem with the way a politician does something.
Obama saved the United States from collapse what else more is there to say ? And instead of praise he gets tomatoes thrown at him from spoiled brats who are mad he had to give Wall Street a bailout to save the whole country, cuz he pulled the troops out and ended the war and more. I bet you the same niggas hatin on the man will be the same niggas who will vote for him too..... but if you ask them they'll tell you Romney and Obama are somehow the "same" so there's no sense in them voting at all.... RIIIIIIGHT LOLOLOLOLOL.
Hmm it seems you're just mad that many people out there are disappointed in Obama at this point, to call people who are disappointed in him brats is out of bounds. It doesn't make someone a brat to hate the fact Obama is a bloodthirsty warmonger as Lupe Fiasco said, and bails out Wall Street while spending crumbs on the American public and cities nationwide. It also doesn't make someone a brat for hating Obama's childish position on medical marijuana, something that saves lives and can produce hundreds of thousands of jobs, if not persecuted by the DOJ. The Bush tax cuts also ruined the nation, and it doesn't take a brat to figure that out. These are issues very important to moderates and liberals, but Obama doesn't get it. He and you think people should just accept his positions on these things and stop complaining. That attitude got Democrats to lose the House in 2010.
It's a position of arrogance, and has costed Obama TONS of goodwill he used to have and will NEVER get back. Not until he thinks outside the box, something he was so willing to do for the homo vote. Hmm....I wonder why......
Truth be told and I don't wanna beat a dead horse here but it's obvious you don't know too much about Obama if u feel that way. You also keep proving my point when I said people are Superficial about the Presidency of the United States.
This thread is done here. Dissapointment doesn't mean people are going to vote for the other guy when they already know or figuring what he's about. It looks like u don't wanna learn anything and give the President his props on what he's done and has been trying to get Congress to do. But something tells me that you don't care about that, you're a sheep voter. Then again come November you'll smarten up and stop acting out.
Truth be told and I don't wanna beat a dead horse here but it's obvious you don't know too much about Obama if u feel that way. You also keep proving my point when I said people are Superficial about the Presidency of the United States.
This thread is done here. Dissapointment doesn't mean people are going to vote for the other guy when they already know or figuring what he's about. It looks like u don't wanna learn anything and give the President his props on what he's done and has been trying to get Congress to do. But something tells me that you don't care about that, you're a sheep voter. Then again come November you'll smarten up and stop acting out.
I don't know much about Obama if I feel the way feel? HUH? So Obama isn't a close minded fool when it comes to marijuana and Obama isn't a bloodthirtsy warmonger? Obama also did not extend the Bush tax cuts, further bankrupting the country?
Am I missing something here? Listen, if you're willing to overlook these things, more power to you. But me and millions of others are NOT willing to overlook them. I guess that's what it comes down to at the end of the day. And come November, I'm voting 3rd party down the line. Democrats and Republicans can all suck my dick at this point, fuck them.
I like how niggaz conveniently ignored my question..
One thing I know.. People will feel how they feel.. Going back and forth in here will not change anyone's opinion or their votes..
My thing with Obama is this.. Even if you despise the guy.. If you dont vote for him... What is your alternative?.. Romney?.. Give me a fuggin break...
War, Weed, the Economy, The catering to special Interests, and Lying to the Public about what is really going on while throwing up smokescreen discussion on shit that has no bearing on the legitimate issues is where I find myself not feeling Obama. Little sneak moves to further strip the public of its right to not only be informed of problems but to protest against them. Hr347 for example is just one of the many moves made by Barack that shows he does not really give a fuck about the people, just his fellow politicians and the special interests that help hold power. So again Obama and Romeney are more of the same shit they are playing the same game on us the people they are just selling slightly different products for the same company...
Oh yeah at my Canadian Brother SIon come on fam you are not even a US citizen your residence is not here so how can you speak from any real expperience on what Obama is doing for us that do live here???
Obama is a puppet for the oligarchs and the big corporations. If people really did their research, and stop supporting him because he is a black democrat, they would see that Barry is basically a lying snake oil sales man. Obama is just as bad as Bush.
Oh yeah at my Canadian Brother SIon come on fam you are not even a US citizen your residence is not here so how can you speak from any real expperience on what Obama is doing for us that do live here???
LOLOL this sentence is riddled with ignorance . Show me in my posts where I lied or said anything about Obama's term that wasn't true. The U.S. is the biggest economy in the world, the WHOLE world is watching the U.S., it's part of my job to understand economies all over the world, how they operate and what's happening to them down to the politics.
Goes to show you tho that I'm not even an American yet I can appreciate what he's done for you country and how lucky you guys are while you are blinded by your own dislike of the man. Comments like that is why I said its hard to debate politics objectively b/c it gets personal. I don't mind tho.
If we're gonna debate convince me WHY Obama is bad for the economy BASED on what he's donein comparison to Mitt Romney without trying to downplay my nationality... go on.... do it..... I'm ready lets debate fam !!!
Oh yeah at my Canadian Brother SIon come on fam you are not even a US citizen your residence is not here so how can you speak from any real expperience on what Obama is doing for us that do live here???
LOLOL this sentence is riddled with ignorance . Show me in my posts where I lied or said anything about Obama's term that wasn't true. The U.S. is the biggest economy in the world, the WHOLE world is watching the U.S., it's part of my job to understand economies all over the world, how they operate and what's happening to them down to the politics.
Goes to show you tho that I'm not even an American yet I can appreciate what he's done for you country and how lucky you guys are while you are blinded by your own dislike of the man. Comments like that is why I said its hard to debate politics objectively b/c it gets personal. I don't mind tho.
If we're gonna debate convince me WHY Obama is bad for the economy BASED on what he's donein comparison to Mitt Romney without trying to downplay my nationality... go on.... do it..... I'm ready lets debate fam !!!
Given that I already picked apart the bailouts in how they could have been translated into legitmate help for the American People and not just the special corporate interests, Why don't you show with facts not rhetoric how Obama has legitemately helped to institute change that will help the Citizens of this nations currently and for the future. Also it is my hobby that I volunteer to help get people work here in the states done so in 3 seperate states same shit each state which is nothing good on the economic front. Hell I lived in a county in Ohio where the Unemployment rate was @19% and half the town was vacant I see the real side of the spin game the media feeds you foreignors...
Oh yeah at my Canadian Brother SIon come on fam you are not even a US citizen your residence is not here so how can you speak from any real expperience on what Obama is doing for us that do live here???
LOLOL this sentence is riddled with ignorance . Show me in my posts where I lied or said anything about Obama's term that wasn't true. The U.S. is the biggest economy in the world, the WHOLE world is watching the U.S., it's part of my job to understand economies all over the world, how they operate and what's happening to them down to the politics.
Goes to show you tho that I'm not even an American yet I can appreciate what he's done for you country and how lucky you guys are while you are blinded by your own dislike of the man. Comments like that is why I said its hard to debate politics objectively b/c it gets personal. I don't mind tho.
If we're gonna debate convince me WHY Obama is bad for the economy BASED on what he's donein comparison to Mitt Romney without trying to downplay my nationality... go on.... do it..... I'm ready lets debate fam !!!
Given that I already picked apart the bailouts in how they could have been translated into legitmate help for the American People and not just the special corporate interests, Why don't you show with facts not rhetoric how Obama has legitemately helped to institute change that will help the Citizens of this nations currently and for the future. Also it is my hobby that I volunteer to help get people work here in the states done so in 3 seperate states same shit each state which is nothing good on the economic front. Hell I lived in a county in Ohio where the Unemployment rate was @19% and half the town was vacant I see the real side of the spin game the media feeds you foreignors...
You'd think you'd have the decency spell "foreigners" correct SMH......
Alright below are my posts, where valid I post my facts and the data to back them up. If you are going to debate politics please back up with your claims with facts from reputable people and websites. Judging by your spelling I sure hope you know the difference between opinion and fact.... LOLOL im playin but real talk post facts to back up your posts.
1. The bailout wasn't for special corporate interests. The bailout was done to give the largest banks of America liquidity so they could then circulate that money throughout the economy and stay afloat aka prevent the U.S. economy from collapsing (in 2007 you do remember the credit crunch right ? LOL). If even 1 of the major banks in America were to have failed the U.S. would've seen a domino effect that would've plunged the United States into a Depression so deep it would've destroyed America. Was it terrible that there are still rich people who don't care and still drive Ferraris in recessions ? Perhaps but what is it a bad idea ? Hell no. It had to be done as it would've benefited everyone and did in the short term and will do even more in the long term.
2. Spin game ? This is irrelevant and has nothing to do with any of my points. I posted facts you posted opinion. I was the only optimistic one telling people to invest in America when everybody (primarily Kingblaze) said America was finished and how he was gonna move away to Europe or Africa b/c Americans were doomed to live like Mad Max and were gonna have people having to farm their own goods to survive as inflation would be too high. Nobody outside of the U.S. even respected you guys while Bush was in office. When Bush was in office we considered yall lazy, stupid and fat SMH. Obama saved the U.S. economy from a recession that apparently resembled the Great Depression of the 1930s something nobody other than Roosevelt was able to do.
- He saved the auto industry and in the process saved as many jobs as he could.
3. He said in 2007/2008 he would restore the U.S. economy - so far he's doing a very good job and already has, he said that he'd end the war and did so during his term. People complained about oil prices in 2007/2008 when they were at $140 a barrel and today oil is at $84 a barrel, natural gas is at an all time low too. He said he'd do the best he could to curb the price of oil and did. U.S. stock markets lost nearly 40% in 2008 but recovered back into the green with the Dow Jones hitting 13k for the first time EVER while EVERY stock exchange around the world plunged and is still in the red.
4. He said he'd curb unemployment in 2008 and so far unemployment is down from what 12% to 8.2% , the housing market and much of corporate America's profits are waaay better today than they've ever been and they are hiring again at a pace faster than they have. In George Bush's term the U.S. saw 2 recessions and one you barely managed to climb out of after the tech bubble popped. Obama has done a lot of the things he said he would.
5. As controversial as it was he was the only one to enforce Medicare something the Clintons could NOT do (namely Hillary Clinton and need I remind you Hillary's failure saw the pharmaceutical industry plunge as companies stock prices fell to record lows). And that was something he was campaigning for before he became president.
6. Oh and if you're going to debate please get your facts right, Aggregate unemployment in Ohio is 7.5% NOT 19% , please refer to the Ohio government website and please post supporting claims that unemployment is in fact 19% in Ohio otherwise your claim has no validity.
7. As for the long term ? He is currently pushing to have taxes on the rich raised so that instead of borrowing on the backs of working families, the rich can do their part and help provide surplus to the government so that they don't have to cut all those social assistance programs. Obama is pushing to have a minimum 30% tax rule on anybody making over a million dollars.
Now above all everything he's doing to help the United States is going to benefit the country in the long term. Whether you like the man or not he did his thing and was definitely a big help in saving your country. If you don't like him cool but hey at least give your president his props where due.
Oh and if your going to refute my claims please post FACTS not opinion.
You got me on the typo shit happens but fam you have to get your reading game up Already in this thread the Unemployment Numbers have been refuted form legit sources where they broke down the spin and change in the way Unemployment is reported back to the general public so that the Numbers appear Lower, ANother point for you fam is the past tense use of "I lived In a County" was not stating it was the whole state specifically I was in Wake County and the Galion Inquirer a Local publication reported the real unemployment rate versus what was being fed to the media this was a few years back(2009) but those I know still in that area have made it clear things have not changed much the area is still dead and becoming more vacant.
Ironically that same auto industry you say Obama saved is what once supported the area and no longer does so to this day. It is funny you speak on Gas prices when they are over 4 a gallon and keep coming close to breaking 5 a gallon, so while the barrel price is way down the per gallon price is way up yet another way the people are getting fucked here. Again there is a big difference in what you foreigners are fed by the media and what is actually happening here with the people. I will give Obama's administration props on their propaganda game as it is off the chain. What is sad is they push through shit like HR347 to strip people of their rights in their information control games so that kats like yourself on the outside never really get to see what those of us here living it should already know...
I'm cool with him helping to bring more peace to the world, but he folded alot of times when the Republican played chicken with his ass.....especially on the bush tax cuts and them threatening to "shut down" Congress. They Deebo'd that nigga for the first good 1.5 years of his term.
Plus, he single-handedly destroyed the student loan industry. Trust me, I used to work in one, and that Educational Bill in 2010 put alot of niggas out of work.
I'm cool with him helping to bring more peace to the world, but he folded alot of times when the Republican played chicken with his ass.....especially on the bush tax cuts and them threatening to "shut down" Congress. They Deebo'd that nigga for the first good 1.5 years of his term.
Plus, he single-handedly destroyed the student loan industry. Trust me, I used to work in one, and that Educational Bill in 2010 put alot of niggas out of work.
How has Obama brought more peace to the world, LMAO.....drone strikes are at an all time high around the world, and so are military operations as well.....seriously, what are you talking about? We're still in Afghanistan and we'll be killing civilians and Taliban there till 2024 (thereby creating even more terrorists). If you're talking about the war in Iraq, I give you that, but how has Obama been a man of peace for the most part? I don't even wana argue, I just want to see what you can possibly mean lol
Probably a B+/A- kept over 90% of his promises Lol @Sion. dude stright dropping gems. He seems to be one of the only people on this site that actually understands how the economy works. Someone went to college lol good posts
Obama gets a B- and he will win again when the competition golden bidet owning Romney is F grade. Obama 2012-2016. The prezzy black my Caddy blue. Fuck what anyone else thinks.
it was when the post was made shit it was to 4.70 now it is back down to 3.50 which is still all bad given about 10 years prior it was less then 1.50 a gallon...
it was when the post was made shit it was to 4.70 now it is back down to 3.50 which is still all bad given about 10 years prior it was less then 1.50 a gallon...
lol. You acting like that post was made in June of last year. You can't give Obama no credit. You actually expecting $1.50 a gallon even with natural inflation? We need to get off that oil like Obama is fighting for.
Obama gets a b he is doing the best with what he has we need to get dems in the house and hold the senate. The money is here ceos are making off like fat rats they need to raise taxes ronnie regan did it ghbush did and we ended up with a surplus in the 90's
it was when the post was made shit it was to 4.70 now it is back down to 3.50 which is still all bad given about 10 years prior it was less then 1.50 a gallon...
lol. You acting like that post was made in June of last year. You can't give Obama no credit. You actually expecting $1.50 a gallon even with natural inflation? We need to get off that oil like Obama is fighting for.
the shit was a month ago and with natural inflation we should be about 2.40 -2.60 a gallon and that is still extreme this shit is next level and yes ideally a new eneergy source would be nice but it takes money to buy new cars that take a new fuel and with most kats struggling and the gap becoming wider each year that is unrealistic. You kats want to give Obama too much credit and not enough criticism he has not done shit that has helped me or those that I know and is just Bush Jr. with people skills as far as the moves I have seen. Again hr347 learn about it and then holler back about how your boy is actually making positive moves for the rights of the people with a straight face...
Obama gets a b he is doing the best with what he has we need to get dems in the house and hold the senate. The money is here ceos are making off like fat rats they need to raise taxes ronnie regan did it ghbush did and we ended up with a surplus in the 90's
That all happened in 2008 through 2010. Democrats and Obama didn't do much during those years, and that's the reason Democrats lost the House......
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http://news.yahoo.com/obama-girl-not-excited-2012-won-t-endorse-193610215.html
‘Obama Girl’ is ‘not as excited’ about 2012, won’t endorse Obama
Amber Lee Ettinger, widely known as “Obama Girl” during the 2008 presidential campaign, told The Daily Caller she is “not as excited as I was the last time, that’s for sure.”
The model-actress became a nationally known celebrity after starring in the viral YouTube video “Crush on Obama.”
“Barack Obama was definitely the first ‘Internet President,’” she said, describing her experiences during the last cycle as “quite a roller coaster ride.”
This time, however, Ettinger won’t say if she still supports Obama.
“At this point I’m keeping that to myself,” she told TheDC. “If I’m not making videos, I’m not sure it’s anyone’s business who I’m voting for this time around.”
“I think in the next few months it’s going to be very interesting to see what happens,” Ettinger said. ”I’d like to get out there and see what the young voters think about both candidates… I might need to break out my flip cam and take a road trip.”
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Goes a lot beyond weed and war lol.....Obama just isn't fighting for change enough in general, too timid and too weak.
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1 • Wack Feelings Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Marijuana Decriminalization: Efforts To Relax Pot Rules Gaining Momentum In U.S.
A survey by Rasmussen last month found that 56 percent of respondents favored legalizing and regulating marijuana. A national Gallup poll last year showed support for legalizing pot had reached 50 percent, up from 46 percent in 2010 and 25 percent in the mid-'90s.
Medical marijuana helped bring marijuana policy into the mainstream back in 1996, when California became the first state to authorize the use of cannabis for medicinal use. Other states followed suit.
"It's now politically viable to talk about these things," said Robert Capecchi, legislative analyst with the Marijuana Policy Project, a Washington, D.C.-based group that supports the reduction or elimination of penalties for medical and recreational pot use. "The public understands that there are substances that are far more harmful – alcohol, tobacco – that we regulate. People are realizing just how much money is being wasted on prohibition."
Colorado and Washington state will hold fall referendums on legalizing marijuana. A ballot question on legalization failed in California in 2010.
This month, Connecticut's governor signed legislation to allow medical marijuana there. Last week, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo proposed cutting the penalty for public possession of small amounts of pot.
Liberal state policies on marijuana have run into conflict with federal prohibition. Federal authorities have shut down more than 40 dispensaries this year in Colorado, even though they complied with state and local law. In Rhode Island, Gov. Lincoln Chafee blocked three dispensaries from opening last year after the state's top federal prosecutor warned they could be prosecuted.
--Let's see if Obama can get with the program or remain the big Uncle Scrooge as he's been for the last 3 years now.
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1 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign 1Ether GOAT LOL •Fam u wonder why I backed away from this thread ? Never argue with an idiot cuz from far away you can't tell who's who. Niggas have their minds made up, the truth is in front of them but niggas choose to ignore it. Just let them have their pyrrhic victory LOL.
It's near impossible to have an objective debate about politics b/c almost EVERYBODY has a personal problem with the way a politician does something.
Obama saved the United States from collapse what else more is there to say ? And instead of praise he gets tomatoes thrown at him from spoiled brats who are mad he had to give Wall Street a bailout to save the whole country, cuz he pulled the troops out and ended the war and more. I bet you the same niggas hatin on the man will be the same niggas who will vote for him too..... but if you ask them they'll tell you Romney and Obama are somehow the "same" so there's no sense in them voting at all.... RIIIIIIGHT LOLOLOLOLOL.
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2 • 1Wack Feelings 1Nosign 3Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •That's a dumb statement
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Hmm it seems you're just mad that many people out there are disappointed in Obama at this point, to call people who are disappointed in him brats is out of bounds. It doesn't make someone a brat to hate the fact Obama is a bloodthirsty warmonger as Lupe Fiasco said, and bails out Wall Street while spending crumbs on the American public and cities nationwide. It also doesn't make someone a brat for hating Obama's childish position on medical marijuana, something that saves lives and can produce hundreds of thousands of jobs, if not persecuted by the DOJ. The Bush tax cuts also ruined the nation, and it doesn't take a brat to figure that out. These are issues very important to moderates and liberals, but Obama doesn't get it. He and you think people should just accept his positions on these things and stop complaining. That attitude got Democrats to lose the House in 2010.
It's a position of arrogance, and has costed Obama TONS of goodwill he used to have and will NEVER get back. Not until he thinks outside the box, something he was so willing to do for the homo vote. Hmm....I wonder why......
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0 • Wack Feelings 2Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •I don't know much about Obama if I feel the way feel? HUH? So Obama isn't a close minded fool when it comes to marijuana and Obama isn't a bloodthirtsy warmonger? Obama also did not extend the Bush tax cuts, further bankrupting the country?
Am I missing something here? Listen, if you're willing to overlook these things, more power to you. But me and millions of others are NOT willing to overlook them. I guess that's what it comes down to at the end of the day. And come November, I'm voting 3rd party down the line. Democrats and Republicans can all suck my dick at this point, fuck them.
No hope and change = NO VOTE
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •One thing I know.. People will feel how they feel.. Going back and forth in here will not change anyone's opinion or their votes..
My thing with Obama is this.. Even if you despise the guy.. If you dont vote for him... What is your alternative?.. Romney?.. Give me a fuggin break...
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1 • Wack Feelings Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Oh yeah at my Canadian Brother SIon come on fam you are not even a US citizen your residence is not here so how can you speak from any real expperience on what Obama is doing for us that do live here???
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Goes to show you tho that I'm not even an American yet I can appreciate what he's done for you country and how lucky you guys are while you are blinded by your own dislike of the man. Comments like that is why I said its hard to debate politics objectively b/c it gets personal. I don't mind tho.
If we're gonna debate convince me WHY Obama is bad for the economy BASED on what he's done in comparison to Mitt Romney without trying to downplay my nationality... go on.... do it..... I'm ready lets debate fam !!!
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Given that I already picked apart the bailouts in how they could have been translated into legitmate help for the American People and not just the special corporate interests, Why don't you show with facts not rhetoric how Obama has legitemately helped to institute change that will help the Citizens of this nations currently and for the future. Also it is my hobby that I volunteer to help get people work here in the states done so in 3 seperate states same shit each state which is nothing good on the economic front. Hell I lived in a county in Ohio where the Unemployment rate was @19% and half the town was vacant I see the real side of the spin game the media feeds you foreignors...
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Alright below are my posts, where valid I post my facts and the data to back them up. If you are going to debate politics please back up with your claims with facts from reputable people and websites. Judging by your spelling I sure hope you know the difference between opinion and fact.... LOLOL im playin but real talk post facts to back up your posts.
1. The bailout wasn't for special corporate interests. The bailout was done to give the largest banks of America liquidity so they could then circulate that money throughout the economy and stay afloat aka prevent the U.S. economy from collapsing (in 2007 you do remember the credit crunch right ? LOL). If even 1 of the major banks in America were to have failed the U.S. would've seen a domino effect that would've plunged the United States into a Depression so deep it would've destroyed America. Was it terrible that there are still rich people who don't care and still drive Ferraris in recessions ? Perhaps but what is it a bad idea ? Hell no. It had to be done as it would've benefited everyone and did in the short term and will do even more in the long term.
2. Spin game ? This is irrelevant and has nothing to do with any of my points. I posted facts you posted opinion. I was the only optimistic one telling people to invest in America when everybody (primarily Kingblaze) said America was finished and how he was gonna move away to Europe or Africa b/c Americans were doomed to live like Mad Max and were gonna have people having to farm their own goods to survive as inflation would be too high. Nobody outside of the U.S. even respected you guys while Bush was in office. When Bush was in office we considered yall lazy, stupid and fat SMH. Obama saved the U.S. economy from a recession that apparently resembled the Great Depression of the 1930s something nobody other than Roosevelt was able to do.
- He saved the auto industry and in the process saved as many jobs as he could.
http://useconomy.about.com/od/criticalssues/a/auto_bailout.htm
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Before
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/06/12/12/automotive-sales-rise-307-may
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After the bailout
3. He said in 2007/2008 he would restore the U.S. economy - so far he's doing a very good job and already has, he said that he'd end the war and did so during his term. People complained about oil prices in 2007/2008 when they were at $140 a barrel and today oil is at $84 a barrel, natural gas is at an all time low too. He said he'd do the best he could to curb the price of oil and did. U.S. stock markets lost nearly 40% in 2008 but recovered back into the green with the Dow Jones hitting 13k for the first time EVER while EVERY stock exchange around the world plunged and is still in the red.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S&P_500#Total_annual_returns_.28b.29
S&P 500 returns from 2008 to 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brent_Spot_monthly.svg
History of the price of oil - look at 2008 and today
4. He said he'd curb unemployment in 2008 and so far unemployment is down from what 12% to 8.2% , the housing market and much of corporate America's profits are waaay better today than they've ever been and they are hiring again at a pace faster than they have. In George Bush's term the U.S. saw 2 recessions and one you barely managed to climb out of after the tech bubble popped. Obama has done a lot of the things he said he would.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate
5. As controversial as it was he was the only one to enforce Medicare something the Clintons could NOT do (namely Hillary Clinton and need I remind you Hillary's failure saw the pharmaceutical industry plunge as companies stock prices fell to record lows). And that was something he was campaigning for before he became president.
6. Oh and if you're going to debate please get your facts right, Aggregate unemployment in Ohio is 7.5% NOT 19% , please refer to the Ohio government website and please post supporting claims that unemployment is in fact 19% in Ohio otherwise your claim has no validity.
http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/05/ohios_unemployment_rate_down_b.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_unemployment_rate
7. As for the long term ? He is currently pushing to have taxes on the rich raised so that instead of borrowing on the backs of working families, the rich can do their part and help provide surplus to the government so that they don't have to cut all those social assistance programs. Obama is pushing to have a minimum 30% tax rule on anybody making over a million dollars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffett_Rule
Now above all everything he's doing to help the United States is going to benefit the country in the long term. Whether you like the man or not he did his thing and was definitely a big help in saving your country. If you don't like him cool but hey at least give your president his props where due.
Oh and if your going to refute my claims please post FACTS not opinion.
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7 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign 5Ether 2GOAT LOL •Hit me up on the PMs !
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0 • Wack Feelings Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •Ironically that same auto industry you say Obama saved is what once supported the area and no longer does so to this day. It is funny you speak on Gas prices when they are over 4 a gallon and keep coming close to breaking 5 a gallon, so while the barrel price is way down the per gallon price is way up yet another way the people are getting fucked here. Again there is a big difference in what you foreigners are fed by the media and what is actually happening here with the people. I will give Obama's administration props on their propaganda game as it is off the chain. What is sad is they push through shit like HR347 to strip people of their rights in their information control games so that kats like yourself on the outside never really get to see what those of us here living it should already know...
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-2 • 3Wack Feelings 1Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •I'm cool with him helping to bring more peace to the world, but he folded alot of times when the Republican played chicken with his ass.....especially on the bush tax cuts and them threatening to "shut down" Congress. They Deebo'd that nigga for the first good 1.5 years of his term.
Plus, he single-handedly destroyed the student loan industry. Trust me, I used to work in one, and that Educational Bill in 2010 put alot of niggas out of work.
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1 • Wack Feelings 1Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •How has Obama brought more peace to the world, LMAO.....drone strikes are at an all time high around the world, and so are military operations as well.....seriously, what are you talking about? We're still in Afghanistan and we'll be killing civilians and Taliban there till 2024 (thereby creating even more terrorists). If you're talking about the war in Iraq, I give you that, but how has Obama been a man of peace for the most part? I don't even wana argue, I just want to see what you can possibly mean lol
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-1 • 1Wack Feelings 1Nosign Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •lol. You acting like that post was made in June of last year. You can't give Obama no credit. You actually expecting $1.50 a gallon even with natural inflation? We need to get off that oil like Obama is fighting for.
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1 • Wack Feelings Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •the shit was a month ago and with natural inflation we should be about 2.40 -2.60 a gallon and that is still extreme this shit is next level and yes ideally a new eneergy source would be nice but it takes money to buy new cars that take a new fuel and with most kats struggling and the gap becoming wider each year that is unrealistic. You kats want to give Obama too much credit and not enough criticism he has not done shit that has helped me or those that I know and is just Bush Jr. with people skills as far as the moves I have seen. Again hr347 learn about it and then holler back about how your boy is actually making positive moves for the rights of the people with a straight face...
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1 • Wack Feelings 1Nosign 1Cosign Ether GOAT LOL •That all happened in 2008 through 2010. Democrats and Obama didn't do much during those years, and that's the reason Democrats lost the House......
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