Trayvon had drugs in his system and all injuries show signs of a struggle.

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  • ShizlanskyShizlansky Posts: 10,509
    DaCaliKing wrote: »
    Trill 5015 wrote: »
    Still, none of this justifies what Zimmerman did. He should've listened to the 911 operator and not pursue Martin. If he'd stayed his bitch ass in his vehicle, none of this would've occurred
    At the end of day, him following Trayvon asking him what he is doing here isn't illegal. Beating someone's head into concrete is and could be considered attempted murder. He had a right to fear for his life and defend himself at this point and Trayvon ended up shot. It was justified self-defense even if you disagree with the initial following of Trayvon.

    Like I said, he should've stayed his bitch ass in his vehicle. He wouldn't have gotten his head busted against the concrete. Nothing Zimmerman did was justifiable; Trayvon had the right to defend himself from this muthafucka Batman.

    lmao @ batman if batman would of hoped out of no where i would bust out laughing just cant take a nigga in a cape&tights serious but on the real zimmerman didnt have to do lil daddy like



    NO HOMOOOOOOOOO SMDH

    How what he said is gay?
    DaCaliKingScumbagSwag
  • cool ampcool amp Posts: 165
    cool amp wrote: »
    man, fuck this case. the crakka has given us overwhelming evidence that when it comes to minorities & people of color he just cannot do the right thing. but the crakka is not too bright after all. how are you gonna
    Trayvon's family fucked up by not taking justice into their own hands.

    This was actually the right thing to do, somebody killed your son and now you want to go to the police? And your Black? They should've expected this.

    I don't believe in anyone else getting justice for me. The police force is meant to protect white people.

    Blacks are guilty even of the crimes committed against us.. which doesn't make sense but they'll make it so.

    Niggas better smarten up.

    His father should've killed the man in return and waited to see what his consequences would be.

    This is his fathers failure, somebody killed your son for no reason.

    This is where squares lose. When Jimmy Henchmens son got smacked up, niggas died. End of story.

    Jimmys going to jail but his son still breathing.

    Being a square in white America just isn't beneficial if you are Black.
    man, somebody get this nigga a talk show cause hes spittin some real shit in 2012!

    i meant to make a post but i saw that homeboy said what i was trying to say even better so i just said fukk it and quoted his instead. carry on.
  • DaCaliKingDaCaliKing Posts: 265
    DaCaliKing wrote: »
    Trill 5015 wrote: »
    Still, none of this justifies what Zimmerman did. He should've listened to the 911 operator and not pursue Martin. If he'd stayed his bitch ass in his vehicle, none of this would've occurred
    At the end of day, him following Trayvon asking him what he is doing here isn't illegal. Beating someone's head into concrete is and could be considered attempted murder. He had a right to fear for his life and defend himself at this point and Trayvon ended up shot. It was justified self-defense even if you disagree with the initial following of Trayvon.

    Like I said, he should've stayed his bitch ass in his vehicle. He wouldn't have gotten his head busted against the concrete. Nothing Zimmerman did was justifiable; Trayvon had the right to defend himself from this muthafucka Batman.

    lmao @ batman if batman would of hoped out of no where i would bust out laughing just cant take a nigga in a cape&tights serious but on the real zimmerman didnt have to do lil daddy like



    NO HOMOOOOOOOOO SMDH

    How what he said is gay?

    ummm..idk..maybe a grown man calling a another dude LITTLE DADDY...yea thats it....

  • Drgoo0285Drgoo0285 Posts: 483
    VIBE wrote: »
    lol@ weed makes EVERYONE mellow and laid back, therefore, weed smokers don't fight.

    1. They didn't say he was high at the time, just that he had THC in his system. This stays in your system for up to 20 hours in your blood and about 10 days in urine and body fat. Depending on how regular he smokes it the numbers would be higher. He could've smoked earlier that day.

    2. Weed doesn't make you "not aggressive", I've personally seen stupid shit people do while high on weed. Weed makes you paranoid, his fear could've escalated into self-defense.

    A: There wasn't enough in his system to alter his performance (e.i. he'd be considered sober if he was alive)

    b: Zimmerman was on medications that could cause side effects such as agitation and mood swings.
  • TheEyeronic1TheEyeronic1 Posts: 5,176


    bringing up the weed thing is stupid.


    but ultimately, zimmerman is going to walk as a free-man.


    yeah..he shouldnt have pursued homie against the 911 dispatcher's request but guess what, he did. Not a crime.


    we wanted justice for trayvon, well here it is.

  • TheEyeronic1TheEyeronic1 Posts: 5,176


    ....and it had to be a WATERMELON arizona, huh.



    smh.
  • fiat_moneyfiat_money Posts: 16,671

    ....and it had to be a WATERMELON arizona, huh.



    smh.
    TheEyeronic1
  • VIBEVIBE Posts: 23,091
    There's video footage of TM at 7/11 before he was killed.
  • VIBEVIBE Posts: 23,091
  • LPastLPast Posts: 1,088
    Injures only conclude that he was losing the fight.
  • CopperKingCopperKing Posts: 21,619
    how did the fight start after zimmerman approached him is the only question that matters...who won the fight, who was smoking weed is irrelevant
  • fiat_moneyfiat_money Posts: 16,671
    how did the fight start after zimmerman approached him is the only question that matters...who won the fight, who was smoking weed is irrelevant
    Not quite. Even if Zimmerman started the fight, that alone wouldn't make his use of force unlawful.
    VIBE
  • fuc_i_look_likefuc_i_look_like Posts: 5,621
    The media bringing up the weed shit is beyond pointless and obvious is following an agenda to vilify Treyvon. What teen/young adult hasn't smoked weed before? Fuck outta here. These pigs have the audacity to drug test a murder victim but not the killer.

    Real talk I honestly didn't give 2 fucks about this case till a couple weeks ago, but when I actually took the time to research this shit, man I'm disgusted. Truly disgusted, especially when there's a Black woman sitting in prison for possibly the next 20 years for merely shooting a gun which didnt injure ANYONE.
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  • Iheart~CaliIheart~Cali Posts: 5,245
    I can't agree with the OP, simply because Zimmerman is recorded as saying he was following Martin. Even after dispatch told him to stop pursuing him he did it anyway. Anything that happened after that is irrelevant to me. You can't go back later and claim self-defense when you're the one doing the chasing. If you got your ass beat because you want to walk up on somebody in the dark, then oh well. You shouldn't be able to pull the victim card later. That's bullsh*t.
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  • VIBEVIBE Posts: 23,091
    911 operators statement of "do not follow" is not a direct order which breaks any law, this complaint needs to stop.

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  • Iheart~CaliIheart~Cali Posts: 5,245
    No one said it's a violation of law.
  • CopperKingCopperKing Posts: 21,619
    only thing that prove is that he pursued him and got his ass whooped
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  • CopperKingCopperKing Posts: 21,619
    fiat_money wrote: »
    how did the fight start after zimmerman approached him is the only question that matters...who won the fight, who was smoking weed is irrelevant
    Not quite. Even if Zimmerman started the fight, that alone wouldn't make his use of force unlawful.

    it would be pretty hard to claim self-defense in a fight that you instigated
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  • Iheart~CaliIheart~Cali Posts: 5,245
    fiat_money wrote: »
    how did the fight start after zimmerman approached him is the only question that matters...who won the fight, who was smoking weed is irrelevant
    Not quite. Even if Zimmerman started the fight, that alone wouldn't make his use of force unlawful.

    it would be pretty hard to claim self-defense in a fight that you instigated

    ^^^This^^^
  • Drgoo0285Drgoo0285 Posts: 483
    VIBE wrote: »
    911 operators statement of "do not follow" is not a direct order which breaks any law, this complaint needs to stop.

    but it could be part of a bigger picture that he was making nonsensical decisions that lead to the ending of trayvon martins life.
  • Hyde ParkeHyde Parke Posts: 2,463
    the laws were designed for "us", just not for our benefit. that is evident by the percentage of black males sitting in prison in comparison to the total population of black males in America.
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  • VIBEVIBE Posts: 23,091
    fiat_money wrote: »
    how did the fight start after zimmerman approached him is the only question that matters...who won the fight, who was smoking weed is irrelevant
    Not quite. Even if Zimmerman started the fight, that alone wouldn't make his use of force unlawful.

    it would be pretty hard to claim self-defense in a fight that you instigated

    Asking someone what they're doing there is instigating a fight?
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  • Hyde ParkeHyde Parke Posts: 2,463
    VIBE wrote: »
    fiat_money wrote: »
    how did the fight start after zimmerman approached him is the only question that matters...who won the fight, who was smoking weed is irrelevant
    Not quite. Even if Zimmerman started the fight, that alone wouldn't make his use of force unlawful.

    it would be pretty hard to claim self-defense in a fight that you instigated

    Asking someone what they're doing there is instigating a fight?

    it led to one did it not?
    Iheart~Cali
  • fiat_moneyfiat_money Posts: 16,671
    fiat_money wrote: »
    how did the fight start after zimmerman approached him is the only question that matters...who won the fight, who was smoking weed is irrelevant
    Not quite. Even if Zimmerman started the fight, that alone wouldn't make his use of force unlawful.

    it would be pretty hard to claim self-defense in a fight that you instigated
    Not if the conditions satisfy the following:
    776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
    (1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
    (2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
    (a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
    (b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.
    History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1190, ch. 97-102.
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