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Obamacare upheld by Supreme Court, Bush's Chief Justice casts decisive vote, ahahahahahaha

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http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/people-moving-to-canada-because-of-obamacare

Chinese readers strain to understand the political incentives for arguing against providing care. A piece about how the Supreme Court’s decision will affect the campaign, broadcast on China National Radio today, struggled to explain how rational voters could find common cause with a party that seeks to prevent them from gaining access to care. “More and more poor people in America will realize that the Obama Administration is truly on their side.” There was something quaint in its conclusion: “This whole debate over health-care reform is a good thing for the Obama Administration. For the Republicans, it’s a miscalculation.”

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/evanosnos/2012/06/so-let-me-explain-how-american-health-care-works.html#ixzz1zDKwvdG0

"I think there is a lot of whistling past the graveyard going on among conservatives who think that Obamacare is really in the political crosshairs now, and indeed, could lead to the defeat of the president’s reelection effort. I worry that the opposite is true. Sure, opponents who care a lot about the constitutionality and policy propriety of the ACA are very upset and motivated to defeat the president. But they already were. For the relatively uninvolved, the message of the Roberts ruling, despite the justice’s protests to the contrary, is that Obamacare is A-okay. That will increase the law’s popularity — just as Roe v. Wade did with abortion. Alas," - Wesley J Smith, National Review

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And a half dozen top on-air reporters and producers within the esteemed news organization told BuzzFeed they are furious at what they see as yet another embarrassment to a network stuck in third place in the cable news race, and torn between an identity as the leader in hard news and the success of their opinionated, personality-driven rivals, Fox News and MSNBC.

“Fucking humiliating,” said one CNN veteran. “We had a chance to cover it right. And some people in here don’t get what a big deal getting it wrong is. Morons.”

“Shameful,” another long-time correspondent told BuzzFeed.

"It's outrageous and embarrassing,” a third CNN staffer vented. “Maybe this will shake the company into understanding that CNN has not been the 'most trusted name in news' for a very long time."

LMFAO FOX GOT IT WRONG TOO BUT FIXED THAT SHIT LITERALLY A MINUTE LATER LOL SMH

"Cable news needs to shut itself down. They failed high school newspaper tests this morning. There's no excuse whatsoever. They really ought to be ashamed. Covering live events is all they're really good for any more, if you are not partial to screeching propaganda or pure CNN tedium. And they even fuck that up - in a way many pajama-clad amateurs didn't."

"Remember, most Americans have no idea what this does; they've just been told it's either a terrible, awful, horrible scheme to allow the government to form death panels to kill them or it's a terrible, awful, horrible illegal power grab by that socialist/Communist/Kenyan anti-colonalist in the White House. Well, the second part turns out to be false. And it's hard to build a suitable conspiracy theory to explain away today's ruling when John Roberts is the decider on this."

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/06/live-blogging-scotus-healthcare-ruling.html

Roberts peered into the abyss of a world in which he and his colleagues are little more than Senators with lifetime appointments, and he recoiled. The long-term war over the shape of the state goes on, but the crisis of legitimacy has been averted. I have rarely felt so relieved.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/06/john-roberts-saves-us-all.html

Stocks are reacting very much as analysts predicted in the event that the law was upheld. Hospital stocks such as HCA (up 8%) and LifePoint (up 4%) are rising because the law is likely to result in increases in volume for their businesses without added costs. Insurers such as Wellpoint and Cigna (down 4% and 5% respectively) are dropping because the law is likely to crimp their profit margins.[/i]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2012/06/28/obamacare-question-for-stocks-do-you-prefer-the-devil-you-know/

"[W]e may learn that President Obama sacrificed his presidency to push through this piece of legislation — the Dems already lost Congress over it. But presidencies are for doing important things not just for getting elected to second terms in office. And I strongly suspect that even if Mitt Romney wins and gets a Republican Congress, they still won’t be able to get rid of this law.

That counts. That matters."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/06/it_matters.php


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  • jonojono Posts: 5,782
    Yeah I lol'd at idiots moving to a country where they have universal healthcare myself. Obama's fascist law shouldn't be applauded though. Forcing people to BUY healthcare is immoral & wrong.

    If you really want to insure everybody you would make healthcare a right, give it to everyone.

    I'm not surprised the Supreme Court upheld it, they are bought off. Insurance companies will be flooded with new customers and businesses can cut benefits because they no longer have to pay for people's health insurance. Walmart already started cutting what little benefits they did have when the law passed.

    Republicans are lying about it making it difficult to do business because it doesn't force businesses to provide healthcare, if anything it will create a need for wage increases so people can buy it themselves.
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  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Posts: 6,261
    Yeah, I see little wrong with the law, minus the short term cost. Long term, it will definitely save money. We have money for endless wars and the Pentagon, we might as well have money for widespread healthcare. Small businesses will no longer be able to take advantage of their employees and pay a fair share, along with every other American. I give Obama his credit for this one.
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  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Posts: 6,261
    I guess another worry I have is, where are all the doctors and nurses going to come from? More people being covered means inevitable rationing, so hopefully there will be more doctors and nurses to cover the millions being covered now. At the same time, Cuba has free healthcare and so does North Korea, so the "richest" nation in the world should have at least more affordable healthcare. Even Iraq has free healthcare.....
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  • FuriousOneFuriousOne Posts: 1,764
    kingblaze84 wrote: »
    I guess another worry I have is, where are all the doctors and nurses going to come from? More people being covered means inevitable rationing, so hopefully there will be more doctors and nurses to cover the millions being covered now. At the same time, Cuba has free healthcare and so does North Korea, so the "richest" nation in the world should have at least more affordable healthcare. Even Iraq has free healthcare.....

    preventative care should create less of a need for doctors. There is technology coming about that is making invasive surgery easier. There are plenty of nurses as i know a lot of females that take up that practice. Maybe the government can step in here and train more doctors with free education. Doctors have to limit their Good question though.
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  • TwentyFive.LightersTwentyFive.Lighters Posts: 1,842
    Republicans don't sleep. I'm for the decision though. Obama is really trying to convince people it isn't a "tax" though. I found the whole situation regarding Romney hilarious.
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  • nujerz84nujerz84 Posts: 8,566
    LOL at comparing Dred Scott slave/property racist ass case to allowing people to get healthcare.
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  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Posts: 6,261
    kai_valya wrote: »
    i just want to say to those people. please, please stay far away from canada. aside from the universal healthcare thing, canada also has legalized prostitution, decriminalized pot, gun control, legalized abortion with no time limit, and a population that is 45% atheist, isn't that every single thing republicans hate in the world?

    romney better not say one more thing about him being against his own plan

    Damn I really gota move to Canada one day....I've been there twice and I love it. Niagara Falls is the BOMB lol
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  • down2earthdown2earth Posts: 925
    People are so uninformed about this shit it's ridiculous. They stay eating what these shitty sensationalized media stations feed them smh. And lol@people saying they're going to "move to Canada".
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  • maestro_lungsmaestro_lungs Posts: 255
    kingblaze84 wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    i just want to say to those people. please, please stay far away from canada. aside from the universal healthcare thing, canada also has legalized prostitution, decriminalized pot, gun control, legalized abortion with no time limit, and a population that is 45% atheist, isn't that every single thing republicans hate in the world?

    romney better not say one more thing about him being against his own plan

    Damn I really gota move to Canada one day....I've been there twice and I love it. Niagara Falls is the BOMB lol

    Damn Canada is Sounding so Much Better Than America... Maybe a Move There Would be Good & I Like Obama Care...lol. It'll Take us another 50 Yrs to Catch up to Them as a Society in Terms of Being Progressive
    kingblaze84
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  • heyslickheyslick Posts: 1,179
    maestro_lungs wrote: »
    kingblaze84 wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    i just want to say to those people. please, please stay far away from canada. aside from the universal healthcare thing, canada also has legalized prostitution, decriminalized pot, gun control, legalized abortion with no time limit, and a population that is 45% atheist, isn't that every single thing republicans hate in the world?

    romney better not say one more thing about him being against his own plan

    Damn I really gota move to Canada one day....I've been there twice and I love it. Niagara Falls is the BOMB lol

    Damn Canada is Sounding so Much Better Than America... Maybe a Move There Would be Good & I Like Obama Care...lol. It'll Take us another 50 Yrs to Catch up to Them as a Society in Terms of Being Progressive


    YEAH! I thnk that would solve alot of Americas problems - most people never appreciate what they have unil they lose it. IMO most of the current gneration in America DON'T have any respect for what this country affords them. Seriously as long as I've been around this site - I RARELY see anyone talk about the good aspects of America - most just complain and compalin about what they haven't got - endlessly. GO! JUST LEAVE and let us live in peace.

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  • ThatDamnJayThatDamnJay Posts: 1,079
    The fact that Justice John Roberts upheld it will forever be funny to me, lol
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  • nujerz84nujerz84 Posts: 8,566
    heyslick wrote: »
    maestro_lungs wrote: »
    kingblaze84 wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    i just want to say to those people. please, please stay far away from canada. aside from the universal healthcare thing, canada also has legalized prostitution, decriminalized pot, gun control, legalized abortion with no time limit, and a population that is 45% atheist, isn't that every single thing republicans hate in the world?

    romney better not say one more thing about him being against his own plan

    Damn I really gota move to Canada one day....I've been there twice and I love it. Niagara Falls is the BOMB lol

    Damn Canada is Sounding so Much Better Than America... Maybe a Move There Would be Good & I Like Obama Care...lol. It'll Take us another 50 Yrs to Catch up to Them as a Society in Terms of Being Progressive


    YEAH! I thnk that would solve alot of Americas problems - most people never appreciate what they have unil they lose it. IMO most of the current gneration in America DON'T have any respect for what this country affords them. Seriously as long as I've been around this site - I RARELY see anyone talk about the good aspects of America - most just complain and compalin about what they haven't got - endlessly. GO! JUST LEAVE and let us live in peace.

    lol the irony of a racist white man tell people to leave and let us live in peace....Im sure Native Americans living on Reservations says otherwise.
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  • heyslickheyslick Posts: 1,179
    nujerz84 wrote: »
    heyslick wrote: »
    maestro_lungs wrote: »
    kingblaze84 wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    i just want to say to those people. please, please stay far away from canada. aside from the universal healthcare thing, canada also has legalized prostitution, decriminalized pot, gun control, legalized abortion with no time limit, and a population that is 45% atheist, isn't that every single thing republicans hate in the world?

    romney better not say one more thing about him being against his own plan

    Damn I really gota move to Canada one day....I've been there twice and I love it. Niagara Falls is the BOMB lol

    Damn Canada is Sounding so Much Better Than America... Maybe a Move There Would be Good & I Like Obama Care...lol. It'll Take us another 50 Yrs to Catch up to Them as a Society in Terms of Being Progressive


    YEAH! I thnk that would solve alot of Americas problems - most people never appreciate what they have unil they lose it. IMO most of the current gneration in America DON'T have any respect for what this country affords them. Seriously as long as I've been around this site - I RARELY see anyone talk about the good aspects of America - most just complain and compalin about what they haven't got - endlessly. GO! JUST LEAVE and let us live in peace.

    lol the irony of a racist white man tell people to leave and let us live in peace....Im sure Native Americans living on Reservations says otherwise.


    Laugh Laugh! my point of view stands, I never said anything about how one should actually show ones patriotism - I've told folks this repeatedly - content is what I go by and your character and color means nothing to me. This site is notorious for being THE MOST DANGEROUS & now you gotta claim otherwise? Incidentally I never categorically stated for people to leave. BTW us means peace loving folks - Y should any civil society want trouble makers within & not speak out about it.

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  • jonojono Posts: 5,782
    This country wouldn't exist as we know it if it wasn't for "trouble makers". Everything here should be questionable.
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  • c1upc1up Posts: 10,770
    Yo did anyone see this

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/pelosi-boehner-photo-captures-emotions-health-care-decision-170119810.html

    Please please see the pic lmao
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  • heyslickheyslick Posts: 1,179
    c1up wrote: »
    Yo did anyone see this



    Please please see the pic lmao


    Sure! He/She who laughs first laughs last. Oh please remember this was mentioned -- LMAO!
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  • ShuffingtonShuffington Posts: 2,537
    kai_valya wrote: »
    i just want to say to those people. please, please stay far away from canada. aside from the universal healthcare thing, canada also has legalized prostitution, decriminalized pot, gun control, legalized abortion with no time limit, and a population that is 45% atheist, isn't that every single thing republicans hate in the world?

    romney better not say one more thing about him being against his own plan

    GTFOH!

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  • The ProdigalsonThe Prodigalson Posts: 7,351
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    c1up wrote: »
    Yo did anyone see this

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/pelosi-boehner-photo-captures-emotions-health-care-decision-170119810.html

    Please please see the pic lmao

    This will be a new feeling Meme. I'm making it once I get home.
    c1up
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  • a.manna.mann Posts: 13,323
    ThatDamnJay wrote: »
    The fact that Justice John Roberts upheld it will forever be funny to me, lol

    the Ring Wing Conservatives wants this man head on a pike....lol
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  • janklowjanklow Posts: 4,256
    kai_valya wrote: »
    i just want to say to those people. please, please stay far away from canada. aside from the universal healthcare thing, canada also has ... gun control
    luckily, i think you guys are making some progress on fixing this
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  • c1upc1up Posts: 10,770
    The Prodigalson wrote: »
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    c1up wrote: »
    Yo did anyone see this

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/pelosi-boehner-photo-captures-emotions-health-care-decision-170119810.html

    Please please see the pic lmao

    This will be a new feeling Meme. I'm making it once I get home.

    yo I laughed so fucking hard at the pic and the IC popped right in my head
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  • VIBEVIBE Posts: 23,204
    What's wrong with Obamacare?
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