Question: How do yall feel about rock influences over a Hip Hop backdrop

chiyosuke

While I love the traditional boom bap, Sounthern, West Coast sounds, I'm open other sounds, I'm generally open to a lot of differrent sounds helpin to lace a hip hop backdrop. And while it's not a necessary staple in hip hop production, rock inspired sounds mesh really well to me (aka go hard as fuck), especially to the point where a few of my most recent project incorporates different types of guitars in 'em. So how do yall in tha IC feel about this? Is it a good addition when done right or do yall prefer the more tradional sounds?

Some of my favorites:
Trick Daddy - Let's Go
Eminem - Won't Back Down
A$AP Rocky - Bass
Kanye West - Devin In a New Dress
Yelawolf - most of Trunk Muzik 0-60 and Radioactive
Linkin Park - When They Come For Me & Wretches and Kings (vice versa for them)
Hell, even Refill (forgot her name, and while not really rock influenced, tha fiddle was dope as fuck to me over that beat lol)

Lab Baby

Sheeit, a lot of 80s hip hop was rock influenced, and they all paved the way for the music today. Beastie Boys was originally a punk band, and since Ill Communication they been going back to their roots and beyond. Won't Back Down was wack to me, but I fucks with the rock style on Em's previous albums (Kim, Marshall Mathers, White America, etc.). Cypress Hill does a lot of rock stuff too, them joints be hittin.

chiyosuke

Yea I'm aware of a lot of that (fuckin touchscreen), Rock this Way and all that... Fuck, I'm pissed at myself for forgettin to add Kim. That shyt is beyond classic. I guess I really fuck with it because during the early 2000s hip hop was gettin severely redundant (just like the mainstream now) so I got put on to some punk. When I finally did back to rap (JEEZY) I guess the rock sounds kinda stuck with me

Sneak Dissa

moedays

As long as its dope, I don't care.

Lab Baby

chiyosuke wrote: »

Yea I'm aware of a lot of that (fuckin touchscreen), Rock this Way and all that... Fuck, I'm pissed at myself for forgettin to add Kim. That shyt is beyond classic. I guess I really fuck with it because during the early 2000s hip hop was gettin severely redundant (just like the mainstream now) so I got put on to some punk. When I finally did back to rap (JEEZY) I guess the rock sounds kinda stuck with me

Yeah, same thing happened to me around 03-04... I started getting deeper into Pink Floyd and Rush, bought Limp Bizkit's Significant Other (dope album btw, had All N Together with Mef). Only rap I was really fuckin with around that time was Kanye and DOOM (Madvilliany came out around that time, haven't stopped listening since). It pays to have an open ear, cuz sometimes music can be a little redundant.

BlackGerald

i have absolutely no problem. I play guitar (bass and acoustic) so i always love a good gutiar part. Mike Dean's solo in Devil In A New Dress are great as well as Cyphress Hill are doep. I also wouldn't say that having a guitar is a rock influence tho. Guitar is instrumental in funk, blues and jazz music so.....

SleepwalkingInJapan

electric guitar riffs go hard over joints

chiyosuke

@moebaby true enough

@Lab Baby exactly! I appreciate it a lot more now that I dabble in production myself now. As far as redundancy, I'm just glad artists old and and new (outside of tha mainstream at least) are bringing different sounds and scenerios to tha forefront

chiyosuke

@moedays, my fault >_>

Already Home_17

i dont mind it

32DaysOfInfiniti

I m o, music is music bro.

Lab Baby

chiyosuke wrote: »

@moebaby true enough

@Lab Baby exactly! I appreciate it a lot more now that I dabble in production myself now. As far as redundancy, I'm just glad artists old and and new (outside of tha mainstream at least) are bringing different sounds and scenerios to tha forefront

Exactly... cats was lookin at me crazy when I was bumpin the Beatles, then I showed them the Grey Album (Jay Z/Beatles mashup album produced by Danger Mouse, dope shit if you haven't heard it). I see a lot of people on here clownin dudes for listening to "white" music, when really is just sound we can all benefit from if used properly. *goes back to listening to Tori Amos's cover of '97 Bonnie and Clyde*

SupremeXXV

I'm a black man that likes some rock music here and there, so it's cool to me.

CeLLaR-DooR

Chonkyfire >>>

moedays

It's all black music anyway so...

Disciplined InSight

Real talk right here...it's a problem within the mixture of those two genre.

To be honest there was nothing wrong with the traditional Hip Hop sound in the first place. To see the whole spectrum, look at the genesis of that mixture which started with legendary producer Rick Rubin.

When Run DMC and Beastie Boys created their classics Kings Of Rock and Licensed To Ill I thought it was dope that they added the Rock element to the Hip Hop element because back then it was fresh and innovative. Soon afterwards, a majority of artists throughout the culture followed suit to do the same in their albums to variate their sounds (Public Enemy/Anthrax, Cypress Hill, Jay Z/Linkin Park, Outkast, Lil Wayne, Eminem etc...).

When I was younger, I didn't see anything wrong it, but as I got older and analyzed the music deeper into how certain sound frequencies positive or negative can influence mentally, spritually and psychologically through the chakras.


It's funny because Rock is an alloy mixture of both Black and White influences from the inception by Fats Domino, Ike Turner, Lloyd Price, Buddy Holly, Little Richard, Muddy Waters, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis...even Elvis Presley, who was influenced by Gospel music and Blues (go figure). Rock use to have that hard, soulful blend of blues, jazz, gospel until it transcended into the soulless heavy metal sound and it's sub-genres of that sound and the negative frequencies that followed it.

Today you see the elements (occult symbolism, skull and bones, anarchist mentality and Aleister Crowley) that shit wasn't in Hip Hop...

chiyosuke

i feel what you're saying, but I'm not really thinking of the negative, but rather the sound. mainly the guitar struts. when i think about messages, I'm thinkin about lyrics, though I've read that the music can have an impact on a person's phyche (hypnosis), i think it's ultimately up to the induvidual to take what they do from an instrumental *kanye shrug*

BlackGerald

I don't see the occult symbolism in hip hop

bigev240

M.O.P. did an album with a rock band that wasn't bad at all. It was mostly rock remixes of some of their songs.

KNiGHTS

I don't mind the influence until it reaches that 3000/Mos Def/Wayne level where they lowkey hate hip hop and want to be rock stars with all the Linkin' Park jerking and screaming on the mic.

Or worse, they're still rapping but with all the imagery of an 80s/90s rock band.

32DaysOfInfiniti

Black Jerry Maguire wrote: »

I don't see the occult symbolism in hip hop

And so you shall fall victim

jono

I love it, I fuck with rock music but I draw the line with rappers in rock bands...that shit is for the birds bro.
Hip-hop is the most versatile genre because you can bring in jazz, funk, rock, pop, reggae, other hiphop artists all in one album if you wanted. Shits kinda ill if you think about it.