Are there any emcees that are top 20 artist of all time?

And_So_It_Burns

I'm curious; do you think any rapper deserves to be in such a list? Based on quality of music, impact and other qualities?

Ear2DaSt

Rap is the best music!

nj2089

no but i think tupac is the closest

CeLLaR-DooR

All genres?...pssssh...Ice Cube

And_So_It_Burns

nj2089 wrote: »

no but i think tupac is the closest

So what qualities are the best rappers in the genre missing to be listed with the greats?

_Menace_

And_So_It_Burns wrote: »

nj2089 wrote: »

no but i think tupac is the closest

So what qualities are the best rappers in the genre missing to be listed with the greats?

"Respect and Recognition" from people who dont listen to rap.

not everyone listens to rock yet Elivs is crowned as a top 10 musician and we have to accept that?

If we say Pac/Nas should be in the top 20 musicians of all time than people will try to state a case why they shouldnt

nj2089

hiphop is not respected by masses like other genres

c1up

Tough to call, so many great artist out there in the world past to present, but LL, Pac, Eminem, the Roots, maybe Nas, maybe Jay-Z, top 20 though is a rough fitting...

Michael Jackson, Bruce Springsteen, Frank Sinatra, Luther Vandross, the Beatles, Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, Bach, The Temptations, Madonna, Mariah Carey, Bob Marley, Beethoven, Miles Davis, Prince, Jimi Hendrix, Rolling Stones, Celine Dion, Whitney Houston, Beyonce, Mozart, Phil Collins, David Brubeck, Elton John, Queen, ABBA, Stevie Wonder, Nirvana, Tina Turner, Led Zepplin, James Brown, Sade, Elvis

Cabana_Da_Don

Nas,Jay-z,Tupac,Rakim etc.A lot of mcs.

CeLLaR-DooR

Beatles...Bob Dylan...Michael Jackson...Prince..the Rollin' Stones...Bob Marley...Miles Davis...Coltrane...Fela Kuti...Louis Armstong...Does any rapper belong with these names?...And if we're talkin' music...Bach?...Mozart?...

I think that because most of these guys play instruments as well as write their own stuff...they have an edge...

And_So_It_Burns

_Menace_ wrote: »

And_So_It_Burns wrote: »

nj2089 wrote: »

no but i think tupac is the closest

So what qualities are the best rappers in the genre missing to be listed with the greats?

"Respect and Recognition" from people who dont listen to rap.

not everyone listens to rock yet Elivs is crowned as a top 10 musician and we have to accept that?

If we say Pac/Nas should be in the top 20 musicians of all time than people will try to state a case why they shouldnt

We all know why rap won't be looked at or held in positive light like other genres of music. It has been marginalized as negative, thug, and a nihilistic art form since its inception from various groups(I wont mention any names) but that shouldn’t disqualify exceptional artists from being mentioned with the greats if they meet that criteria.
I think Jay and Nas deserve a spot in the top 20. WHat have other great artist done that these two haven't.

CeLLaR-DooR

c1up wrote: »

Tough to call, so many great artist out there in the world past to present, but LL, Pac, Eminem, the Roots, maybe Nas, maybe Jay-Z, top 20 though is a rough fitting... Michael Jackson, Bruce Springsteen, Frank Sinatra, Luther Vandross, the Beatles, Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, Bach, The Temptations, Madonna, Mariah Carey, Bob Marley, Beethoven, Miles Davis, Prince, Jimi Hendrix, Rolling Stones, Celine Dion, Whitney Houston, Beyonce, Mozart, Phil Collins, David Brubeck, Elton John, Queen, ABBA, Stevie Wonder, Nirvana, Tina Turner, Led Zepplin, James Brown, Sade, Elvis

CS these geniuses...Jimi...James Brown...Aretha...Nirvana...David Brubeck and his quartet...

_Menace_

Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

Frank Sinatra
Tupac
Nas
Mariah Carey
Bob Marley
Marvin Gaye
Jimi Hendrix
The Beatles
Whitney Houston
Micheal Jackson
James Brown
Bruce Springsteen
Elvis
Rick James
The Temptations
Al Green
Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
Madonna
Stevie Wonder
Prince

CeLLaR-DooR

_Menace_ wrote: »

Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

Frank Sinatra
Tupac
Nas
Mariah Carey
Bob Marley
Marvin Gaye
Jimi Hendrix
The Beatles
Whitney Houston
Micheal Jackson
James Brown
Bruce Springsteen
Elvis
Rick James
The Temptations
Al Green
Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
Madonna
Stevie Wonder
Prince

lol at Aaliyah's inclusion...bitch didn't write or produce her own shit...fuck she doin' on this list?

_Menace_

CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »

_Menace_ wrote: »

Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

Frank Sinatra
Tupac
Nas
Mariah Carey
Bob Marley
Marvin Gaye
Jimi Hendrix
The Beatles
Whitney Houston
Micheal Jackson
James Brown
Bruce Springsteen
Elvis
Rick James
The Temptations
Al Green
Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
Madonna
Stevie Wonder
Prince

lol at Aaliyah's inclusion...bitch didn't write or produce her own shit...fuck she doin' on this list?

I know you you didnt just say Aaliyah was a bitch.

Imma pretend I didnt read that..........

*inhales* *shakes head*

c1up

_Menace_ wrote: »

Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

Frank Sinatra
Tupac
Nas
Mariah Carey
Bob Marley
Marvin Gaye
Jimi Hendrix
The Beatles
Whitney Houston
Micheal Jackson
James Brown
Bruce Springsteen
Elvis
Rick James
The Temptations
Al Green
Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
Madonna
Stevie Wonder
Prince

great list but then some would ask why no Elton or Beethoven or Bach or LL or Em or Celine or the Roots, or Curtis Mayfield or Aretha or Yolanda Adams... it can be tough to make an open and shut case just based on them examples I threw right there to consider. Again nothing wrong with ya list, it's great but you see some names and you say well damn just maybe.

nj2089

cause she died lol

CeLLaR-DooR

And also...hip-hop is sample-based...other genres of music don't rate that at all...its not like in jazz where you would reinterpret a song...

Tommy bilfiger

Pac was a wacc ass mc so how can he be a top 20 artist of all time? He aint even a top 10 mc of all time

Only Jigga qualifies

CeLLaR-DooR

_Menace_ wrote: »

CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »

_Menace_ wrote: »

Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

Frank Sinatra
Tupac
Nas
Mariah Carey
Bob Marley
Marvin Gaye
Jimi Hendrix
The Beatles
Whitney Houston
Micheal Jackson
James Brown
Bruce Springsteen
Elvis
Rick James
The Temptations
Al Green
Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
Madonna
Stevie Wonder
Prince

lol at Aaliyah's inclusion...bitch didn't write or produce her own shit...fuck she doin' on this list?

I know you you didnt just say Aaliyah was a bitch.

Imma pretend I didnt read that..........

*inhales* *shakes head*

Mate I refer to everyone in such ways...mum...niece...dad, even though he's dead...Don't take offence

but still...fuck she doin' on the list?

CeLLaR-DooR

Tommy bilfiger wrote: »

Pac was a wacc ass mc so how can he be a top 20 artist of all time? He aint even a top 10 mc of all time

Only Jigga qualifies

Or Cube...Even though Jig is in my top 5 and Cube may or may not be in it...

_Menace_

CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »

_Menace_ wrote: »

CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »

_Menace_ wrote: »

Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

Frank Sinatra
Tupac
Nas
Mariah Carey
Bob Marley
Marvin Gaye
Jimi Hendrix
The Beatles
Whitney Houston
Micheal Jackson
James Brown
Bruce Springsteen
Elvis
Rick James
The Temptations
Al Green
Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
Madonna
Stevie Wonder
Prince

lol at Aaliyah's inclusion...bitch didn't write or produce her own shit...fuck she doin' on this list?

I know you you didnt just say Aaliyah was a bitch.

Imma pretend I didnt read that..........

*inhales* *shakes head*

Mate I refer to everyone in such ways...mum...niece...dad, even though he's dead...Don't take offence

but still...fuck she doin' on the list?

Just a personal list

_Menace_

Tommy bilfiger wrote: »

Pac was a wacc ass mc so how can he be a top 20 artist of all time? He aint even a top 10 mc of all time

Only Jigga qualifies

no one gives a fuck about your wack ass input

go to the cheapseats and talk how u a Heat fan now

CeLLaR-DooR

_Menace_ wrote: »

CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »

_Menace_ wrote: »

CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »

_Menace_ wrote: »

Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

Frank Sinatra
Tupac
Nas
Mariah Carey
Bob Marley
Marvin Gaye
Jimi Hendrix
The Beatles
Whitney Houston
Micheal Jackson
James Brown
Bruce Springsteen
Elvis
Rick James
The Temptations
Al Green
Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
Madonna
Stevie Wonder
Prince

lol at Aaliyah's inclusion...bitch didn't write or produce her own shit...fuck she doin' on this list?

I know you you didnt just say Aaliyah was a bitch.

Imma pretend I didnt read that..........

*inhales* *shakes head*

Mate I refer to everyone in such ways...mum...niece...dad, even though he's dead...Don't take offence

but still...fuck she doin' on the list?

Just a personal list

no doubt...I kno' what IMO means...can you at least explain it?

c1up

CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »

Tommy bilfiger wrote: »

Pac was a wacc ass mc so how can he be a top 20 artist of all time? He aint even a top 10 mc of all time

Only Jigga qualifies

Or Cube...Even though Jig is in my top 5 and Cube may or may not be in it...

good person to add

_Menace_

CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »

_Menace_ wrote: »

CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »

_Menace_ wrote: »

CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »

_Menace_ wrote: »

Top 20 musicians of all time imo (No order )

Frank Sinatra
Tupac
Nas
Mariah Carey
Bob Marley
Marvin Gaye
Jimi Hendrix
The Beatles
Whitney Houston
Micheal Jackson
James Brown
Bruce Springsteen
Elvis
Rick James
The Temptations
Al Green
Aaliyah (YES AALIYAH)
Madonna
Stevie Wonder
Prince

lol at Aaliyah's inclusion...bitch didn't write or produce her own shit...fuck she doin' on this list?

I know you you didnt just say Aaliyah was a bitch.

Imma pretend I didnt read that..........

*inhales* *shakes head*

Mate I refer to everyone in such ways...mum...niece...dad, even though he's dead...Don't take offence

but still...fuck she doin' on the list?

Just a personal list

no doubt...I kno' what IMO means...can you at least explain it?

"In My Opinion"