Lupe Fiasco 'Bitch Bad' - Reactions

I watched again Lupe's video Bitch Bad and I know a lot of people have different reactions to it. Mine is positive. I think it's a needed message that needs to be out there plus a good beat and good flow. I've seen a lot of feminists and others say the song is wrong or what not. I wanted to see what other IC heads thought about it.

I've seen more positive responses than negative ones.

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  • rip.dillarip.dilla Posts: 14,870 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When the vid came out, a thread was made and the reactions were mostly positive ..


    There you go
    ROZAYTABERNACLE
  • Cool. Appreciate it.
  • G MackG Mack Posts: 6,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lupe needs to make a video for fruition
  • I agree. That would be tight. His content and popularity shakes up the industry and rap stereotypes.

  • 32DaysOfInfiniti32DaysOfInfiniti Posts: 3,523 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was an okay song with a good message but misguided overall as Lupe often is

    The video was a desperate attempt to shock and the lyrics were allot of commentary and criticism with no solution.

    I'd like Lupe more if he didn't complain so much. He always wanna talk down about something but never provides any solutions...

    And for those who are gonna say "Oh, so you'd rather listen to (insert shitty rapper)?" No, Fiasco holds himself to a higher standard so he gets judged on a different scale. I expect more
    Demarco27shtoopidBuilt 4 cuban linx
  • Demarco27Demarco27 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭✭
    I initially liked the song...until i thought about it logically. Who is he trying to reach? Kids? using words like aquiescent? Or is he talking down to niggas on some barbarian caveman shit (Bitch bad, woman good is some caveman lingo). Its a Self Righteous smart nigga record

    Overall i thought it was a cool concept, could have been executed better tho.
  • DMTxTHCDMTxTHC Posts: 14,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I didn't like the song, but...
    Demarco27 wrote: »
    i thought it was a cool concept, could have been executed better tho.
  • rip.dillarip.dilla Posts: 14,870 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How better could it have been executed?

    Any options or ideas?
  • King Lee King Lee The Danger ZonePosts: 1,447 ✭✭✭✭
    I thought it was a cool concept
  • It was an okay song with a good message but misguided overall as Lupe often is

    The video was a desperate attempt to shock and the lyrics were allot of commentary and criticism with no solution.

    I'd like Lupe more if he didn't complain so much. He always wanna talk down about something but never provides any solutions...

    And for those who are gonna say "Oh, so you'd rather listen to (insert shitty rapper)?" No, Fiasco holds himself to a higher standard so he gets judged on a different scale. I expect more

    I think he did give solutions in the song. He said women should not call themselves bitch and men shouldn't really go for those women. He didn't say it, but yeah men should also stop calling women bitches as some kind of standard. But I think he gave a lot of solutions, especially if you include solutions regarding as what not to do. Good record.
    32DaysOfInfiniti
  • Been a while since I got a co-sign in here :D Ha ha. To the Groupthinking Haters it' all love. :)
  • Demarco27Demarco27 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭✭
    How is saying that it couldve been executed better....hating?

    Problem wit conscious niggas is they preach to the choir. U aint saving lil girls saying words like"aquiesent" lmao
  • s3nterockss3nterocks Posts: 219 ✭✭✭
    It was an okay song with a good message but misguided overall as Lupe often is

    The video was a desperate attempt to shock and the lyrics were allot of commentary and criticism with no solution.

    I'd like Lupe more if he didn't complain so much. He always wanna talk down about something but never provides any solutions...

    And for those who are gonna say "Oh, so you'd rather listen to (insert shitty rapper)?" No, Fiasco holds himself to a higher standard so he gets judged on a different scale. I expect more

    Lupe said, as he's said before regarding his music that he isn't trying to tell you how to live your life, but rather point out the ills and wrongs in the world no one seems to talk about. His objective was to get you to talk about, and that as long as that occurred he's good.
    AHipHopLovers
  • bdbdbdbdbdbd Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    people aint always gotta provide solutions for you...thats the problem with the hiphop generation nowadays... the majority of you are to lazy to figure shit out for yourself which is why you are so enamoured with hashtag rapping.

    songs like these aren't the answer to a problem.... merely a catalyst to make you think for yourself
    AHipHopLovers
  • Demarco27 wrote: »
    How is saying that it couldve been executed better....hating?

    Problem wit conscious niggas is they preach to the choir. U aint saving lil girls saying words like"aquiesent" lmao

    That hating post wasn't personally directed at you. More of a general thing. Sure it could of been executed better. In fact, since nothing is perfect, pretty much everything can be executed better.

    Maybe they preach a lot the choir. But I doubt if it's all the choir. I'm sure new people hear new music everyday. Besides saying acquiescent, doesn't mean all of a sudden a little girl can't understand the whole song or even the basic meaning of the song, or even the chorus for that matter.
  • Mister B.Mister B. The IC'sTeacher...learn some shit! Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Demarco27 wrote: »
    I initially liked the song...until i thought about it logically. Who is he trying to reach? Kids? using words like aquiescent? Or is he talking down to niggas on some barbarian caveman shit (Bitch bad, woman good is some caveman lingo). Its a Self Righteous smart nigga record

    That sounds like a cop-out to me. Contrary to what he already said, tthat record was in fact "dumbed down" to help folk understand that whole topic. People can't use that 'holier than thou' shit as an excuse to stop KNOWINGLY fucking up the youth out here.

    I thought the song was executed pretty good. The fact that the beat was catered to the current popular style of hip-hop today further drove the song into the masses.
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  • 32DaysOfInfiniti32DaysOfInfiniti Posts: 3,523 ✭✭✭✭✭
    bdbdbd wrote: »
    people aint always gotta provide solutions for you...thats the problem with the hiphop generation nowadays... the majority of you are to lazy to figure shit out for yourself which is why you are so enamoured with hashtag rapping.

    songs like these aren't the answer to a problem.... merely a catalyst to make you think for yourself

    Which has been done over and over again, Lupe is like IC folks, we know the problem so now what? Are you a part of the solution or you just gonna stay in your room and cry about? Lupe always seems to do the latter.

    Sure you dont have to provide solutions, but then whats the point? Does he not want change, does he not want people behind him, does he not ultimately want things to get better?

    Great leaders dont just point at you, they also point in the direction you should be headed.

    Obviously Lupe isnt that
  • bdbdbd wrote: »
    people aint always gotta provide solutions for you...thats the problem with the hiphop generation nowadays... the majority of you are to lazy to figure shit out for yourself which is why you are so enamoured with hashtag rapping.

    songs like these aren't the answer to a problem.... merely a catalyst to make you think for yourself

    Which has been done over and over again, Lupe is like IC folks, we know the problem so now what? Are you a part of the solution or you just gonna stay in your room and cry about? Lupe always seems to do the latter.

    Sure you dont have to provide solutions, but then whats the point? Does he not want change, does he not want people behind him, does he not ultimately want things to get better?

    Great leaders dont just point at you, they also point in the direction you should be headed.

    Obviously Lupe isnt that

    Say what? I think he's part of the solution and leading by actions by one, refraining from saying bitch. 2nd by putting music and knowledge out there at the risk of not selling records (unlike so many other rappers), making money and being popular. 3rd, by even putting that video out demonstrating many of the problems in hip hop and what we should refrain from doing. It's one thing if he was talking about it and not putting it on records, but he is. In fact, dude even released the track as a single with promotion at the risk of backlash, instead of sticking it in the back of his CD.

    He's definitely pointing in the direction we should be headed.
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