The forgotten round of Nas vs. Jay-Z: Blueprint 2 vs. Last Real N*gga Alive

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I know, these two have been compared ever which way about 547,903,665 times. However, I never really hear about these two tracks during their battle.

I also know that by the time each of these songs came out, the battle was pretty much decided. That being said, do you think either one of these tracks made any difference for either emcee?
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  • jonlakadeadmicjonlakadeadmic Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭
    I love the blueprint 2 instrumental though
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  • its....JOHN Bits....JOHN B Posts: 18,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The last real nigga alive was checkmate in that battle, Jay talking about going at him annually and pay per view events, Nas destroyed him with Ether and LRNA was his fatality
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  • Davis eyebrowDavis eyebrow Posts: 518 ✭✭✭✭
    Stop reading thread after @Lab Baby post
  • Mr.LVMr.LV Posts: 13,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "I got my mojo back baby oh behave"-Jay-Z

    Jay was having fun with this track

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  • jonojono Right fist = power, left fist = unity Posts: 29,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Blueprint 2 is Jay's best diss record towards Nas. Jay released 3 disses on Nas and none made the impact of "Ether", in fact 2 of them were released AFTER "Ether" dropped.

    Last Real Nigga Alive wasn't really a diss record, it was a story that just happened to have disses in it. He never made another whole song for Jay, just lines here and there. So "Stillmatic Freestyle" & "Ether" were the only released diss records from Nas towards Jay.
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  • blackgod813blackgod813 Posts: 7,808 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jay father of hiphop showed was he was god on this song fake muslims insults an all hiphop was.jigggas an crowleys
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  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Posts: 24,307 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not taking anything away from "Last Real" because that shit was crazy dope, but "Ether" was the knockout and everything after that was just Nas bullying dude. I used to laugh at how bad Nas use to son dude just for the fun of it.

    "Jehovah witness, him and his co-defendants, I eat 'em like lucky charms
    With 2% low fat milk, 5% pro-black built"

    "First of all this is Nas, I'm a braveheart veteran,
    and you already know who I'm better than"

    "Even Jigga want the crown, how that sound?
    poor thing"

    "Feel I'm who you supposed to be, real I know it hurts you
    Soldiers approach you, you want to squash it, you older than most dudes
    Although Nas did you and your whole crew"

    "I was Scarface, Jay was Manolo
    It hurt me when I had to kill him and his whole squad for dolo"

    "Ask another rapper, how it feels to lose his whole gangsta"

    etc.

    Jay was letting dude completely destroy his character and was slowly losing his spot as a force in Hip-Hop. Then Jay started releasing those wackass pop albums and stopped caring about lyrics and it sealed the deal. Dun wasn't even Hip-Hop anymore. He was now a pop artist.

    In the words of Cam (who also got at Jay), "you can fool the rest of the world, long as NY know."

    You giving Nas a little too much credit here. He didn't really destroy Jay's career. Even after Ether crushed Jay in the battle, Jay was still selling millions. And all this pop music is just another example of Jay bandwagon riding. Hip Hop and R&B in general have become a lot more pop sounding. Jay has just incorporated that into his music to stay relevant.
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  • Lab BabyLab Baby Parts Unknown via BrooklynPosts: 8,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
    waterproof wrote: »
    Mr.LV wrote: »
    "I got my mojo back baby oh behave"-Jay-Z

    Jay was having fun with this track

    naw Jay was laughing to keep himself from crying, that nigga was hurt deep in his soul.

    I thought so too the first time I heard it til the 2nd verse. Don't tell me he wasn't spittin truth in the beginning.
  • Reggie80Reggie80 Posts: 2,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jay father of hiphop showed was he was god on this song fake muslims insults an all hiphop was.jigggas an crowleys
    Wait what....
    Bitch shut your mouth before I fuck it

    I'm still a rap fan, microphone fiend
    An insider like Russell Crowe, behind the scenes
    You can be the hottest MC, literally leave the mic smoking
    No marketing and promotion
    No 106 & Park, no TRL
    Don't kill the messenger homey but don't expect to sell
    Viacom own MTV, VH1
    BET, five labels until BMG
    Merged with Sony, EMI, Universal and WEA
    Only four labels in the music industry bruh
    All radio controlled by two companies
    Just two rap magazines, read between the lines
    Hip-hop used to be the expression of struggle with rhymes
    Corporate monopolized, only certain shit shines
    Only way to get radio and video and blow
    They control what you say, and the images you show
    CNN owned by AOL, own Time Warner
    Trickle down effect of the New World Order
    And you wonder why "Van Gogh" was killed
    Same reason Dead Prez lost they deal, get real
    I spit for the cabbage, grind with a mission
    And put Capitol Records in missionary positions
    Used to love H.E.R. like Common, but then you get signed
    (Behind the Music) now I just fuck the music from behind

    Magazine writers misprint you, take words out of context
    And got the nerve to wonder why I'm vexed
    When I read the publication
    I was like "Damn, was we in the same conversation?"
    This for the rap conniseurs, magazine critics
    Backpackers, rap stars with bullshit gimmicks
    Fans, even the "Stans," the groupies and label executives
    With corporate cards trickin my budget on coochie
    Video chicks sucking dick between takes
    Hoping to get saved, and thanks for the ass shake
    Like Dave Chappelle in "Half Baked," need a backyotomy
    And some of these thugs is into sodomy
    Large print giveth, fine print taketh away
    Your favorite rapper ain't recoup label take it away
    Have a nigga tempted to take an AK, goin postal
    Rap made me loco, hustle bicoastal
    (Why?) Because the West monopolize
    Same ol' niggas tellin the same ol' lies
    L.A. radio, quick to suck out of town dick
    South support they own create international hits
    Out of regional records, East coast create the buzz
    Music capitol of the world, thought it wasn't when it was
    And somehow manage to screw us
    Call West coast gangster rap whack, then sold it back to us...
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  • Reggie80Reggie80 Posts: 2,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not taking anything away from "Last Real" because that shit was crazy dope, but "Ether" was the knockout and everything after that was just Nas bullying dude. I used to laugh at how bad Nas use to son dude just for the fun of it.

    "Jehovah witness, him and his co-defendants, I eat 'em like lucky charms
    With 2% low fat milk, 5% pro-black built"

    "First of all this is Nas, I'm a braveheart veteran,
    and you already know who I'm better than"

    "Even Jigga want the crown, how that sound?
    poor thing"



    "Feel I'm who you supposed to be, real I know it hurts you
    Soldiers approach you, you want to squash it, you older than most dudes
    Although Nas did you and your whole crew"

    "I was Scarface, Jay was Manolo
    It hurt me when I had to kill him and his whole squad for dolo"

    "Ask another rapper, how it feels to lose his whole gangsta"

    etc.

    Jay was letting dude completely destroy his character and was slowly losing his spot as a force in Hip-Hop. Then Jay started releasing those wackass pop albums and stopped caring about lyrics and it sealed the deal. Dun wasn't even Hip-Hop anymore. He was now a pop artist.

    In the words of Cam (who also got at Jay), "you can fool the rest of the world, long as NY know."


    They plan was to knock me out the top of the game
    But I overstand they truth is all lame
    I hold cannons that shoot balls of flames
    Right in they fat mouth then I carve my name
    Nas - too real, Nas - true king
    It's however you feel, g'head, you swing
    Your arms too short to box with god
    I don't kill soloists only kill squads
    Fame went to they head, so now it's "Fuck Nas"
    Yesterday you begged for a deal, today you tough guys
    I seen it comin
    Soon as I popped my first bottle I spotted my enemies tryna' do what I do
    Came in with my style, so I fathered you
    I kept changin on the world since "...Barbeque"
    Now you wanna hang with niggas I hung with
    Fuck bitches I hit,

    Shitting on Jigga and everyone else dude was mad reckless back then
    Bitch shut your mouth before I fuck it

    I'm still a rap fan, microphone fiend
    An insider like Russell Crowe, behind the scenes
    You can be the hottest MC, literally leave the mic smoking
    No marketing and promotion
    No 106 & Park, no TRL
    Don't kill the messenger homey but don't expect to sell
    Viacom own MTV, VH1
    BET, five labels until BMG
    Merged with Sony, EMI, Universal and WEA
    Only four labels in the music industry bruh
    All radio controlled by two companies
    Just two rap magazines, read between the lines
    Hip-hop used to be the expression of struggle with rhymes
    Corporate monopolized, only certain shit shines
    Only way to get radio and video and blow
    They control what you say, and the images you show
    CNN owned by AOL, own Time Warner
    Trickle down effect of the New World Order
    And you wonder why "Van Gogh" was killed
    Same reason Dead Prez lost they deal, get real
    I spit for the cabbage, grind with a mission
    And put Capitol Records in missionary positions
    Used to love H.E.R. like Common, but then you get signed
    (Behind the Music) now I just fuck the music from behind

    Magazine writers misprint you, take words out of context
    And got the nerve to wonder why I'm vexed
    When I read the publication
    I was like "Damn, was we in the same conversation?"
    This for the rap conniseurs, magazine critics
    Backpackers, rap stars with bullshit gimmicks
    Fans, even the "Stans," the groupies and label executives
    With corporate cards trickin my budget on coochie
    Video chicks sucking dick between takes
    Hoping to get saved, and thanks for the ass shake
    Like Dave Chappelle in "Half Baked," need a backyotomy
    And some of these thugs is into sodomy
    Large print giveth, fine print taketh away
    Your favorite rapper ain't recoup label take it away
    Have a nigga tempted to take an AK, goin postal
    Rap made me loco, hustle bicoastal
    (Why?) Because the West monopolize
    Same ol' niggas tellin the same ol' lies
    L.A. radio, quick to suck out of town dick
    South support they own create international hits
    Out of regional records, East coast create the buzz
    Music capitol of the world, thought it wasn't when it was
    And somehow manage to screw us
    Call West coast gangster rap whack, then sold it back to us...
    [Deleted User]NothingButTheTruth
  • its....JOHN Bits....JOHN B Posts: 18,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    Jay's blueprint 2 song in my opinion was further indication that he lost to me. The whole song this nigga came off like feelings were caught. Nigga spent most of the song coppin pleas and being angry at the fans for thinking ether was harder. After you cried at hot 97 and the blame game went from everything from fans to his mom, blueprint 2 was the wrong approach.

    Nas came off as a guy who was really on some "I ain't mean to fuck you up but you forced my hand" father shit on LRNA when I hear it. Definately takeover was the better try for jay

    This
  • rip.dillarip.dilla 天道様 Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Feelings will definitely be caught as this thread progresses . .
    ... always immediately go for my boobs ... She feelin me up like "are those your nipples?" I'm like "don't touch there. my money is there." So she's running my hips and thighs ...
  • Tommy bilfigerTommy bilfiger Posts: 21,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2013
    After jigga decapitated nasir on takeover it was over,he exhumed the body and merked him again on Bp2

    Nasir had to write 2 WHOLE songs off 2 verses then wanted white people to help orchestrate a hangin of jigga like a step n fetch tap dancing coon

    If u want to hang your opponent on stage(after hot 97 says u won) You lost it and you lost.That's some emotional rosewood shit
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  • Tommy bilfigerTommy bilfiger Posts: 21,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can't y'all see that he's fake/ the rap version of TD jakes/Prophesizing on your CDs and tapes/Won't break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes/And this is with whom you want to place your faith?

    And y'all buy the shit, caught up in the hype/Cause the nigga wear a kufi it don't mean that he bright

    Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice/It just means you don't understand all the bullshit that he write

    Is it "Oochie Wally Wally" or is it "One Mic"?/Is it "Black Girl Lost" or shorty owe you for ice?

    ^Jigga bodied this kid wit facts the only rappa that ever got at Jigga was Cam'ron
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  • vageneral08vageneral08 Fuck how ya feel Posts: 19,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Last real nigga alive was the ending of the battle whatever jay said after that was irrelavant because nas said nothing but real shit if jay-z would've dropped the blueprint 2 right after ether named it something else it would've been a much closer battle because superugly was overrated and jay got in his feelings
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  • darkraindarkrain Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭
    Last Real N!gga Alive got my voted. I liked both of track but Jay-Z sounds a bitter on this track. Nas just telling a story and he's having fun with his track. I can listen to LRNA track over and over again unlike BP2 track.
  • usmarin3usmarin3 Posts: 37,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BP2 exposed Nas for the hypocrite he is.
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