The forgotten round of Nas vs. Jay-Z: Blueprint 2 vs. Last Real N*gga Alive

Truth Writer

I know, these two have been compared ever which way about 547,903,665 times. However, I never really hear about these two tracks during their battle.

I also know that by the time each of these songs came out, the battle was pretty much decided. That being said, do you think either one of these tracks made any difference for either emcee?

The Lonious Monk

Not that this topic will get any attention at all, but you could have at least put the videos up.





On topic, I don't really see the comparison. Blueprint 2 is a weak diss. LRNA is basically Nas' account of how their beef came to be.

jonlakadeadmic

I love the blueprint 2 instrumental though

Lab Baby

Last Real Nigga broke down a lot of history, and was a great story track. Not a diss song, but a real song. BP2 was just... mean. Jay's best shots at Nas were all in this song.

'Cause the nigga wear a coofie, it don't mean that he bright
'Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice
It just means you don't understand all the bullshit that he write
Is it 'Oochie Wally Wally' or is it 'One Mic'?
Is it 'Black Girl Lost' or shorty owe you for ice?


I get the spoils 'cause the victor is me
You're an actor, you're not who you're depicted to be
The street dreamin', all y'all niggas livin' through me
I gave you life when niggas was forgettin' you emcee
I'm a legend, you should take a picture with me
You should be happy to be in my presence, I should charge you a fee
I'm Big Dog, Glenn Rob, listen, God, you a flea
An' the little homey Jungle is a garden to me


I like both equally for different reasons. Makes it that much harder to decide.

its....JOHN B

The last real nigga alive was checkmate in that battle, Jay talking about going at him annually and pay per view events, Nas destroyed him with Ether and LRNA was his fatality

Davis eyebrow

Stop reading thread after @Lab Baby post

NothingButTheTruth

Not taking anything away from "Last Real" because that shit was crazy dope, but "Ether" was the knockout and everything after that was just Nas bullying dude. I used to laugh at how bad Nas use to son dude just for the fun of it.

"Jehovah witness, him and his co-defendants, I eat 'em like lucky charms
With 2% low fat milk, 5% pro-black built"

"First of all this is Nas, I'm a braveheart veteran,
and you already know who I'm better than"

"Even Jigga want the crown, how that sound?
poor thing"

"Feel I'm who you supposed to be, real I know it hurts you
Soldiers approach you, you want to squash it, you older than most dudes
Although Nas did you and your whole crew"

"I was Scarface, Jay was Manolo
It hurt me when I had to kill him and his whole squad for dolo"

"Ask another rapper, how it feels to lose his whole gangsta"

etc.

Jay was letting dude completely destroy his character and was slowly losing his spot as a force in Hip-Hop. Then Jay started releasing those wackass pop albums and stopped caring about lyrics and it sealed the deal. Dun wasn't even Hip-Hop anymore. He was now a pop artist.

In the words of Cam (who also got at Jay), "you can fool the rest of the world, long as NY know."

Mr.LV

"I got my mojo back baby oh behave"-Jay-Z

Jay was having fun with this track

waterproof

Mr.LV wrote: »

"I got my mojo back baby oh behave"-Jay-Z

Jay was having fun with this track

naw Jay was laughing to keep himself from crying, that nigga was hurt deep in his soul.

jono

Blueprint 2 is Jay's best diss record towards Nas. Jay released 3 disses on Nas and none made the impact of "Ether", in fact 2 of them were released AFTER "Ether" dropped.

Last Real Nigga Alive wasn't really a diss record, it was a story that just happened to have disses in it. He never made another whole song for Jay, just lines here and there. So "Stillmatic Freestyle" & "Ether" were the only released diss records from Nas towards Jay.

blackgod813

Jay father of hiphop showed was he was god on this song fake muslims insults an all hiphop was.jigggas an crowleys

The Lonious Monk

NothingButTheTruth wrote: »

Not taking anything away from "Last Real" because that shit was crazy dope, but "Ether" was the knockout and everything after that was just Nas bullying dude. I used to laugh at how bad Nas use to son dude just for the fun of it.

"Jehovah witness, him and his co-defendants, I eat 'em like lucky charms
With 2% low fat milk, 5% pro-black built"

"First of all this is Nas, I'm a braveheart veteran,
and you already know who I'm better than"

"Even Jigga want the crown, how that sound?
poor thing"

"Feel I'm who you supposed to be, real I know it hurts you
Soldiers approach you, you want to squash it, you older than most dudes
Although Nas did you and your whole crew"

"I was Scarface, Jay was Manolo
It hurt me when I had to kill him and his whole squad for dolo"

"Ask another rapper, how it feels to lose his whole gangsta"

etc.

Jay was letting dude completely destroy his character and was slowly losing his spot as a force in Hip-Hop. Then Jay started releasing those wackass pop albums and stopped caring about lyrics and it sealed the deal. Dun wasn't even Hip-Hop anymore. He was now a pop artist.

In the words of Cam (who also got at Jay), "you can fool the rest of the world, long as NY know."

You giving Nas a little too much credit here. He didn't really destroy Jay's career. Even after Ether crushed Jay in the battle, Jay was still selling millions. And all this pop music is just another example of Jay bandwagon riding. Hip Hop and R&B in general have become a lot more pop sounding. Jay has just incorporated that into his music to stay relevant.

GSonII

Ether is overrated

Lab Baby

waterproof wrote: »

Mr.LV wrote: »

"I got my mojo back baby oh behave"-Jay-Z

Jay was having fun with this track

naw Jay was laughing to keep himself from crying, that nigga was hurt deep in his soul.

I thought so too the first time I heard it til the 2nd verse. Don't tell me he wasn't spittin truth in the beginning.

Reggie80

blackgod813 wrote: »

Jay father of hiphop showed was he was god on this song fake muslims insults an all hiphop was.jigggas an crowleys

Wait what....

DR. JEK

Jay's blueprint 2 song in my opinion was further indication that he lost to me. The whole song this nigga came off like feelings were caught. Nigga spent most of the song coppin pleas and being angry at the fans for thinking ether was harder. After you cried at hot 97 and the blame game went from everything from fans to his mom, blueprint 2 was the wrong approach.

Nas came off as a guy who was really on some "I ain't mean to fuck you up but you forced my hand" father shit on LRNA when I hear it. Definately takeover was the better try for jay

Reggie80

NothingButTheTruth wrote: »

Not taking anything away from "Last Real" because that shit was crazy dope, but "Ether" was the knockout and everything after that was just Nas bullying dude. I used to laugh at how bad Nas use to son dude just for the fun of it.

"Jehovah witness, him and his co-defendants, I eat 'em like lucky charms
With 2% low fat milk, 5% pro-black built"

"First of all this is Nas, I'm a braveheart veteran,
and you already know who I'm better than"

"Even Jigga want the crown, how that sound?
poor thing"



"Feel I'm who you supposed to be, real I know it hurts you
Soldiers approach you, you want to squash it, you older than most dudes
Although Nas did you and your whole crew"

"I was Scarface, Jay was Manolo
It hurt me when I had to kill him and his whole squad for dolo"

"Ask another rapper, how it feels to lose his whole gangsta"

etc.

Jay was letting dude completely destroy his character and was slowly losing his spot as a force in Hip-Hop. Then Jay started releasing those wackass pop albums and stopped caring about lyrics and it sealed the deal. Dun wasn't even Hip-Hop anymore. He was now a pop artist.

In the words of Cam (who also got at Jay), "you can fool the rest of the world, long as NY know."

They plan was to knock me out the top of the game
But I overstand they truth is all lame
I hold cannons that shoot balls of flames
Right in they fat mouth then I carve my name
Nas - too real, Nas - true king
It's however you feel, g'head, you swing
Your arms too short to box with god
I don't kill soloists only kill squads
Fame went to they head, so now it's "Fuck Nas"
Yesterday you begged for a deal, today you tough guys
I seen it comin
Soon as I popped my first bottle I spotted my enemies tryna' do what I do
Came in with my style, so I fathered you
I kept changin on the world since "...Barbeque"
Now you wanna hang with niggas I hung with
Fuck bitches I hit,

Shitting on Jigga and everyone else dude was mad reckless back then

its....JOHN B

DR. JEK wrote: »

Jay's blueprint 2 song in my opinion was further indication that he lost to me. The whole song this nigga came off like feelings were caught. Nigga spent most of the song coppin pleas and being angry at the fans for thinking ether was harder. After you cried at hot 97 and the blame game went from everything from fans to his mom, blueprint 2 was the wrong approach.

Nas came off as a guy who was really on some "I ain't mean to fuck you up but you forced my hand" father shit on LRNA when I hear it. Definately takeover was the better try for jay

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rip.dilla

Feelings will definitely be caught as this thread progresses . .

Tommy bilfiger

After jigga decapitated nasir on takeover it was over,he exhumed the body and merked him again on Bp2

Nasir had to write 2 WHOLE songs off 2 verses then wanted white people to help orchestrate a hangin of jigga like a step n fetch tap dancing coon

If u want to hang your opponent on stage(after hot 97 says u won) You lost it and you lost.That's some emotional rosewood shit

Tommy bilfiger

Can't y'all see that he's fake/ the rap version of TD jakes/Prophesizing on your CDs and tapes/Won't break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes/And this is with whom you want to place your faith?

And y'all buy the shit, caught up in the hype/Cause the nigga wear a kufi it don't mean that he bright

Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice/It just means you don't understand all the bullshit that he write

Is it "Oochie Wally Wally" or is it "One Mic"?/Is it "Black Girl Lost" or shorty owe you for ice?

^Jigga bodied this kid wit facts the only rappa that ever got at Jigga was Cam'ron

vageneral08

Last real nigga alive was the ending of the battle whatever jay said after that was irrelavant because nas said nothing but real shit if jay-z would've dropped the blueprint 2 right after ether named it something else it would've been a much closer battle because superugly was overrated and jay got in his feelings

georgia boi

Blueprint 2 is a dope song, but it's weak as a diss for the following reasons:

1) it's basically a concession
2) it's not really addressing Nas, but more so speaks to the listener specifically those who sided w/ Nas. It's like he's trying to convince listeners that he won the battle
3) it sounds like he's desperate i.e. mentioning what he gave to charity

Still like the song though.

I don't really consider "Last Real N**** Alive" a diss either. It's basically a storytelling track with a couple of lines of directed at Jay. Nice imagery though with the final lines of the song.

"Last Real N**** Alive" gets my vote though.

darkrain

Last Real N!gga Alive got my voted. I liked both of track but Jay-Z sounds a bitter on this track. Nas just telling a story and he's having fun with his track. I can listen to LRNA track over and over again unlike BP2 track.

usmarin3

BP2 exposed Nas for the hypocrite he is.

tompetrez3

Last real nigga alive was the nail in the coffin for the soul of jay z. It was a very deep, dark and daring diss record from nas that took it to another level besides insults and jokes like jay z used on bp2 and takeover. The first time I heard that "gift and the curse fuck that shit first shall be last" line I was pumping my fist on my car roof so hard geeked. Why nas do that mammal like that. The diss was cinematic. The content was truthful and logical and the execution was swift. What he want I already had. Nas went over niggas head with this track. Bp2 wasn't shit but jay z crying in lyrical form. I will ask you guys like I did when I joined the ic in 2009 HOW CAN YOU CHEAT IN A RAP BATTLE? When a nigga use a Austin powers catchphrase in a diss record you already know he lost. The thing I didn't understand about jay z is why he didn't he have south Philly motherfuckers on bp2. Not the murda Marcyville version I'm talking about the summer 2001 version where he went in at nas on 2 verses and beans dissing nas on the last verse. If spmf was on bp1 or bp2 the battle would of went a different route. Don't you know was also a dope nas diss from Jay Z that went low key. That Hov son across your belly and rewind your life with a shotgun blast are insane diss lines that jay z should of built on instead of crying on bp2. LRNA wins by a landslide