Serious question: Where was Jay when this kinda shyt was dropping?

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  • achewon87achewon87 Midnight Marauder SDF-1Posts: 2,640 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wouldn't he have been the "Avon" or "Marlo" of Marcy at this point? Just sayin'
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  • Disciplined InSightDisciplined InSight The Clairvoyant One.... Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Possibly laying the foundation for Reasonable Doubt and forming Roc-A-Fella with Dame and Biggs.
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  • internationalinternational Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Possibly laying the foundation for Reasonable Doubt and forming Roc-A-Fella with Dame and Biggs.

    He didn't partake in the greatest era of hip hop, he did not compete! He can and should not be compared nor take place alongside a Nas or a Pac, and thats real!
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  • Disciplined InSightDisciplined InSight The Clairvoyant One.... Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pervis wrote: »
    It's funny how Jay wasn't a part of the era but eventually outsold and outlasted every single one of these rappers.

    You would too if you was an opportunist trendsetter.
  • internationalinternational Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2013
    Pervis wrote: »
    It's funny how Jay wasn't a part of the era but eventually outsold and outlasted every single one of these rappers.

    He did like he should have, how the fuck are you not gonna peep game from niggaz that already paved the way before you? You better soak some of that shyt up...And last I checked Snoop and Nas still very much active, Nas still making better music than this nigga too, and he came after them so he better still be going...Shyt last I check Em still goin and he sold more records than Jay, so I guess Em should be credit and more highly praised than Jay...
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  • internationalinternational Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pervis wrote: »
    using em as an example is just stupid. he's a white rapper in a white majority country, of course he'll sell a lot. he has a unfair advantage over every other single mc in history.

    but jay had the last laugh in the end. he might not have been releasing music when nas, mobb, snoop and pac was, but he sure did stay on top longer than every single one of them losers

    lmaoo, you must mean on top commercially? Cuz Nas been putting out better music than that nigga and has a way better catalogue than Jay and it ain't even close...

    America's demographics is changing, not sure how much of an advantage whites are having, specially in the growing numbers of the latinos, which was reflective and a huge factor on Obama getting a second term...so check them numbers....and Em still selling more than Jay and murdered him on the same track too...rofl...what makes Jay better than Em?
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  • usmarin3usmarin3 Posts: 35,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How is Nas the best rapper when he couldn't even sell out half of MSG in his own city.
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  • internationalinternational Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    How is Nas the best rapper when he couldn't even sell out half of MSG in his own city.

    Em is better than Jay he sold more records than him.
    Lurker6ROZAYTABERNACLEmrclassick
  • usmarin3usmarin3 Posts: 35,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    How is Nas the best rapper when he couldn't even sell out half of MSG in his own city.

    Em is better than Jay he sold more records than him.

    Where you logic fails is sure Em has sales like Jay, but Em doesn't have the critical acclaim albums like Jay-z.

    Nas has critical acclaim but no mass impact.
    Eminem has mass impact but not the critical acclaim
    Jay has both.

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  • PervisPervis Posts: 326 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2013
    lmaoo, you must mean on top commercially? Cuz Nas been putting out better music than that nigga and has a way better catalogue than Jay and it ain't even close...

    America's demographics is changing, not sure how much of an advantage whites are having, specially in the growing numbers of the latinos, which was reflective and a huge factor on Obama getting a second term...so check them numbers....and Em still selling more than Jay and murdered him on the same track too...rofl...what makes Jay better than Em?

    nas aint got a way better catalogue than jay. thats being extreme. its close. jay has good albums in blueprint 1, black album, american gangster.

    nas does have subpar albums too. lets not forget hip hop is dead, streets disciple. them shits was trash. gods son wasnt even all that.
  • internationalinternational Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    How is Nas the best rapper when he couldn't even sell out half of MSG in his own city.

    Em is better than Jay he sold more records than him.

    Where you logic fails is sure Em has sales like Jay, but Em doesn't have the critical acclaim albums like Jay-z.

    Nas has critical acclaim but no mass impact.
    Eminem has mass impact but not the critical acclaim
    Jay has both.
    Nah, Em has MORE SALES THAN JAY, google that stanley...and Marshall Mathers Lp is a classic, so your argument is refuted.

    I stand incorrected, Em is better than Jay based on that criteria.



    See easy.

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  • usmarin3usmarin3 Posts: 35,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    How is Nas the best rapper when he couldn't even sell out half of MSG in his own city.

    Em is better than Jay he sold more records than him.

    Where you logic fails is sure Em has sales like Jay, but Em doesn't have the critical acclaim albums like Jay-z.

    Nas has critical acclaim but no mass impact.
    Eminem has mass impact but not the critical acclaim
    Jay has both.
    Nah, Em has MORE SALES THAN JAY, google that stanley...and Marshall Mathers Lp is a classic, so your argument is refuted.

    I stand incorrected, Em is better than Jay based on that criteria.



    See easy.



    Name one credible hiphop source/critic who has ever rated MMLP as a classic. That album has flaws towards the back end of the project, it deserved the 4 out 5 mics it got. Shit ain't no classic.
  • PervisPervis Posts: 326 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2013
    em aint got no god damn classic albums

    and even if someone say mmlp is a classic, so fucken what?

    jay got at least 3 certified classics.

    em aint even got a stronger catalogue than nelly
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  • DMTxTHCDMTxTHC Posts: 14,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pervis wrote: »
    em aint got no god damn classic albums

    em aint even got a stronger catalogue than nelly

    Cosign this though..

    Jay ain't been shit in 6 years, aside from several verses (Shiny Suit Theory, Primetime, Murder to Excellence, etc.), but Em's catalogue is wack..
    nujerz84
  • internationalinternational Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pervis wrote: »
    em aint got no god damn classic albums

    and even if someone say mmlp is a classic, so fucken what?

    jay got at least 3 certified classics.

    em aint even got a stronger catalogue than nelly
    fuck nah, Jay aint got no 3 certified classics, I'd give him the black album and thats it...

    RD is an album that he been tryna force down niggaz throats for a long time, cuz no one gave a shyt about it, Blueprint got like 3-4 tracks to skip on that bs, with a big attempt to crossover can't even play it all the way through...I'd give him the black album and that is it...

    Em got the Marshall Mathers Lp as a classic so stop hating...
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  • internationalinternational Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh based on this criteria that yall choosing to go by enter WEEZY ON THIS SHYT TOO...

    Tune Chi....rofl.....
  • usmarin3usmarin3 Posts: 35,417 ✭✭✭✭✭
    SMH at this nigga Nas intentionally trying to go commercial and failing at it. lmfao

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  • 5th Letter5th Letter AKA 5th Element Posts: 26,453 Regulator
    It's about opportunity and while he wasn't signed yet, he was making noise in the mainstream. He was doing collabos with Big Daddy Kane, Mic Geronimo, Big L etc before he popped.
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