Did Mr. J Rape Barbara Gordon

Maximus Rex

I've always wondered this since I originally read the The Killing Joke, did J (or his goons,) have "have his way," with Barbara Gordon after he popped her. One of the things that makes The Joker such a enjoyable character is the fact that he's out of his mind and will do anything, but for some reason, I'm not comfortable with him raping or allowing Babs to have been assaulted in such a vile and brutal manner.





Or is one of those things that Moore (with his perpetually hating and angry ass,) left up to the readers in interpretation kinda this issue of Batman #424



Did Jason pushed that nigga over the edge, or did he spook him and potna fell over the railing? At this point in Jason's life he was going on hard on niggas, so I wouldn't put it pass him to had pushed dude. I really don't know.

ShencotheMC

Ehhh I doubt it. If that was true she woulda murked him with no question in her current series. Him and the one dude she caught from that gang

CottonCitySlim

im pretty sure most people agree that he did rape her, from most bat fans i heard this before i even went back and read it myself

ShencotheMC

CottonCitySlim wrote: »

im pretty sure most people agree that he did rape her, from most bat fans i heard this before i even went back and read it myself

Alan Moore allegedly said that Joker didn't rape her(well maybe not in any place we'd think. Eww). I mean it alludes to a rape, but if you peep Moore's style there prolly woulda been more clues to it than just naked pictures of the chick. This is when Joker went from crazy to start becoming a straight-up street thug because didn't he murk Jason like right after this or some shit?

Maximus Rex

ShencotheMC wrote: »

CottonCitySlim wrote: »

im pretty sure most people agree that he did rape her, from most bat fans i heard this before i even went back and read it myself

Alan Moore allegedly said that Joker didn't rape her(well maybe not in any place we'd think. Eww). I mean it alludes to a rape, but if you peep Moore's style there prolly woulda been more clues to it than just naked pictures of the chick. This is when Joker went from crazy to start becoming a straight-up street thug because didn't he murk Jason like right after this or some shit?

Actually The Killing Joke happened about two to three years after the A Death in the Family story arc.

ShencotheMC

Man truth be told the only time I remember them really going the rape route was Sue Dibny. And when that happened even fucking mid-carders wanted Dr. Light murked. Maybe it's because of the time periods, but I have a hard time believing that Joker could rape Barbara and damn near the whole DC universe not going after homie's head. And once again, if he did rape her, she woulda killed dude with no questions in her current series

CottonCitySlim

she is a bat family main stay, so it is his problem...not many other heroes play around in gotham anyways outside of the bat family

Lamilton3000

if he did him and bats definitely wouldn't be sharing a joke at the end of the story.

Paul Hate.

Sick nerd shit imo...

requiem v2.0

scottie pimpin' wrote: »

if he did him and bats definitely wouldn't be sharing a joke at the end of the story.

Yea this is what I'm thinking. Bats beat Joker halfway to death for killing Jason, he would have kicked the living hell out of Joker if he raped Babs.

Swiffness!

Well he DEFINITELY raped ol' girl in Brian Azzarello's Joker.....and people freaked the fuck out, caught mad feelings.

see: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil

Moore basically left it as a open question in Killing Joke. Stripping someone naked after you just shot them and taking pics is already a form of "sexual assault" anyway, so......

requiem v2.0 wrote: »

if he did him and bats definitely wouldn't be sharing a joke at the end of the story.

best argument against. they firmly got it in canon now that its the ONE time they just laughed together like friends.

Broddie

CottonCitySlim wrote: »

im pretty sure most people agree that he did rape her, from most bat fans i heard this before i even went back and read it myself

Actually most people agree that he didn't rape her. The Joker is super sane to the point that petty conventional crimes like rape are "beneath" him. He's always been portrayed as being asexual and his way of getting "off" is more in the way of psychological torture and not straight up physical (a point even Moore emphasized in his story). I know Alan Moore is known to be rape happy in his stories but there is a greater method to The Joker's madness.

Lamilton3000

Maximus Rex wrote: »

I've always wondered this since I originally read the The Killing Joke, did J (or his goons,) have "have his way," with Barbara Gordon after he popped her. One of the things that makes The Joker such a enjoyable character is the fact that he's out of his mind and will do anything, but for some reason, I'm not comfortable with him raping or allowing Babs to have been assaulted in such a vile and brutal manner.





Or is one of those things that Moore (with his perpetually hating and angry ass,) left up to the readers in interpretation kinda this issue of Batman #424



Did Jason pushed that nigga over the edge, or did he spook him and potna fell over the railing? At this point in Jason's life he was going on hard on niggas, so I wouldn't put it pass him to had pushed dude. I really don't know.

I have about 20 80's batman comics with Jason todd. around that time he had a chip on his shoulder he was beating up street pimps. batman had to restrain him a few times.

ShencotheMC

Swiffness! wrote: »

Well he DEFINITELY raped ol' girl in Brian Azzarello's Joker.....and people freaked the fuck out, caught mad feelings.

see: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil

Moore basically left it as a open question in Killing Joke. Stripping someone naked after you just shot them and taking pics is already a form of "sexual assault" anyway, so......

requiem v2.0 wrote: »

if he did him and bats definitely wouldn't be sharing a joke at the end of the story.

best argument against. they firmly got it in canon now that its the ONE time they just laughed together like friends.

Yea that whole graphic novel was wild. As far as canon though...nah never happened

Maximus Rex

Broddie wrote: »

CottonCitySlim wrote: »

im pretty sure most people agree that he did rape her, from most bat fans i heard this before i even went back and read it myself

Actually most people agree that he didn't rape her. The Joker is super sane to the point that petty conventional crimes like rape are "beneath" him. He's always been portrayed as being asexual.

@ bolded, I have a very hard time believing that Mr. J isn't smashing:



with a vengence.

harry knucklez

Look like he was about to rape Jim too on some Pulp Fiction shit. Egh!