Let's be honest Hulk can't beat Juggernaut

CainCain Posts: 25,973
Hulk for all his strength has never out right beat Juggs. Juggs can't be stopped by any physical force so no matter how mad Hulk gets he can't hurt or stop Juggs. When Hulk did beat Juggs he was powered be Celestial armor so that doesn't count. In WW Hulk Juggs was half powered and he still Hulk couldn't beat even jumped away when Juggs went off into the lake.

I know Hulk fans aren't gonna like this but facts are facts. Juggs powers have been down played as of late due to Hulk being the franchise player in Marvel but Juggs is the strongest of the two.
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  • TrashboatTrashboat Posts: 14,339
    Isn't Hulk way smarter though? Couldn't he very easily just outsmart Juggernaut?
  • juggs power set is crazy op...thats why he is written that way and why they kinda got rid of him, until marvel can figure out a way to depower him a bit

    I say its really a stale mate, your cant hurt juggs...but hulks healing factor equalizes it
  • KNiGHTSKNiGHTS Posts: 3,269
    Aren't they two sides of the same coin? Hulk draws power off a universe in the Negative Zone or something, and Juggernaut draws power off Cytorrak's dimension, which is a universe unto itself. Furthermore, when bossman gets mad at Juggernaut, his power level decreases. Since he was half-ass good for a minute, didn't Cyt depower him as a lesson?
  • CainCain Posts: 25,973
    KNiGHTS wrote: »
    Aren't they two sides of the same coin? Hulk draws power off a universe in the Negative Zone or something, and Juggernaut draws power off Cytorrak's dimension, which is a universe unto itself. Furthermore, when bossman gets mad at Juggernaut, his power level decreases. Since he was half-ass good for a minute, didn't Cyt depower him as a lesson?

    Juggs was depowered in WWH but still he held his own for awhile. He begged Cytrroak for his full power and he got it. Hulk knew that he couldn't beat him so when Juggs ran at him he jumped away and Juggs on motion ran himself into a lake. Afterwards Juggs was written out of WWH so Hulk and Sentry could fight.

    The thing about Juggs he never really given all of Cyttorak power. He was given a larger portion in one comic arc and he was the strongest being ever. He was Scion Juggernaut and he could punch holes in reality.

  • yea people are ignorant to just how god like juggs really is...which also made the AvX storyline even dumber
  • Bcotton5Bcotton5 Posts: 38,015
    they actually showed a confrontation of Collossus/Juggs with his Phoenix power trying to confront Cytorrak to remove the Juggernaut curse and Cyttorak just laughed at him lol
  • Bcotton5Bcotton5 Posts: 38,015
    but yea I agree Hulk cant beat Juggs but I dont really know if Juggs could stop him either unless Cytorrak gives him all of his power then I think he could 1 shot KO him
  • waterproofwaterproof Posts: 8,872
    edited February 2013
    HULK SMASH, in WWH juggernaut wasn't facing The World Breaker, When Hulk in Worldbreaker mode the nigga destroy planets and galaxies....and when Apocalypse turned Hulk into War Hulk and he and Juggernaut meet, Hulk do what he always do outsmart juggernaut, had him pinned down ripped off juggs helmet and put a sword to his throat popped shit to juggs about how he always saying nothing can stop juggernaut and asked him do he want to.see if it's true and threaten to saw his neck off, lol......Banner is top 7 genius in marvel universe juggs is always out matched...

    Oh yeah in WWH, Hulk didn't have time to bullshit with Juggs, Hulk had bigger fish to slap.around

    Yall Going to Learn and pay homage to The Worldbreaker
  • lion_heartlion_heart Posts: 1,334
    Cain1 wrote: »
    Juggs was depowered in WWH but still he held his own for awhile. He begged Cytrroak for his full power and he got it. Hulk knew that he couldn't beat him so when Juggs ran at him he jumped away and Juggs on motion ran himself into a lake. Afterwards Juggs was written out of WWH so Hulk and Sentry could fight.

    The thing about Juggs he never really given all of Cyttorak power. He was given a larger portion in one comic arc and he was the strongest being ever. He was Scion Juggernaut and he could punch holes in reality.


    You making that shit up. Hulk said he ain't got time for this becuz that fight would take all day so he moved out of the way and Juggs ran into the lake. At one point Marvel said he was stronger than the Hulk but that was back in the 90's now he can't even fuck with Skaar, Hulk's son.

    Remember when Onslaught had Juggs under manners when he ran into him?
  • Lou_CypherLou_Cypher Posts: 23,425
    Is juggs in Marvel Now? i see Colossus in Cable and The X Force but now word on where the juggernaut suit went.
  • CainCain Posts: 25,973
    lion_heart wrote: »
    Cain1 wrote: »
    Juggs was depowered in WWH but still he held his own for awhile. He begged Cytrroak for his full power and he got it. Hulk knew that he couldn't beat him so when Juggs ran at him he jumped away and Juggs on motion ran himself into a lake. Afterwards Juggs was written out of WWH so Hulk and Sentry could fight.

    The thing about Juggs he never really given all of Cyttorak power. He was given a larger portion in one comic arc and he was the strongest being ever. He was Scion Juggernaut and he could punch holes in reality.


    You making that shit up. Hulk said he ain't got time for this becuz that fight would take all day so he moved out of the way and Juggs ran into the lake. At one point Marvel said he was stronger than the Hulk but that was back in the 90's now he can't even fuck with Skaar, Hulk's son.

    Remember when Onslaught had Juggs under manners when he ran into him?

    @waterproof and @lion_heart Hulk knew he couldn't beat him out right so he left with Prof X. So how is what I said made up? Onslaught had Prof X mental powers times a 1000. That's Juggs only weakness and not let's forget that Onslaught killed all heros so he's not a slouch.

    The fight with Skaar wasn't a physical fight because Skaar had to use his Old Power to shoot Juggs in space. He didn't hurt Juggs he just used a rock to shoot him in the air. Lol

    Lmao and the fight with Hulk when he was War he was amped up by Celestial armor. He couldn't be hurt or stopped with that armor he had own. So again without Celestial armor Hulk can't beat Juggs in a physical fight.

    @Du_Du the Gladiator did toss Juggs as in the water on the show and in the comic book. Gladiator is the original world breaker since his one punch can break planets. Also his powers are driven by will power so if he can think he can do it it will happen


    @Lou Cypher Juggs is back fully powered now. He got his powers back in Thunderbolts last book.
  • lion_heartlion_heart Posts: 1,334
    Cain1 wrote: »
    lion_heart wrote: »
    Cain1 wrote: »
    Juggs was depowered in WWH but still he held his own for awhile. He begged Cytrroak for his full power and he got it. Hulk knew that he couldn't beat him so when Juggs ran at him he jumped away and Juggs on motion ran himself into a lake. Afterwards Juggs was written out of WWH so Hulk and Sentry could fight.

    The thing about Juggs he never really given all of Cyttorak power. He was given a larger portion in one comic arc and he was the strongest being ever. He was Scion Juggernaut and he could punch holes in reality.


    You making that shit up. Hulk said he ain't got time for this becuz that fight would take all day so he moved out of the way and Juggs ran into the lake. At one point Marvel said he was stronger than the Hulk but that was back in the 90's now he can't even fuck with Skaar, Hulk's son.

    Remember when Onslaught had Juggs under manners when he ran into him?

    @waterproof and @lion_heart Hulk knew he couldn't beat him out right so he left with Prof X. So how is what I said made up? Onslaught had Prof X mental powers times a 1000. That's Juggs only weakness and not let's forget that Onslaught killed all heros so he's not a slouch.

    The fight with Skaar wasn't a physical fight because Skaar had to use his Old Power to shoot Juggs in space. He didn't hurt Juggs he just used a rock to shoot him in the air. Lol

    Lmao and the fight with Hulk when he was War he was amped up by Celestial armor. He couldn't be hurt or stopped with that armor he had own. So again without Celestial armor Hulk can't beat Juggs in a physical fight.

    @Du_Du the Gladiator did toss Juggs as in the water on the show and in the comic book. Gladiator is the original world breaker since his one punch can break planets. Also his powers are driven by will power so if he can think he can do it it will happen


    @Lou Cypher Juggs is back fully powered now. He got his powers back in Thunderbolts last book.

    The made up part was that you think Hulk knew he couldn't beat him and that wasn't the case. Hulk basically said that he didn't have all day so he redirected Jugg and let him go into the lake.

    Onslaught ain't use his mental powers on Jugg. He hit that nigga so hard we went flying half way through the country. When the X Men found him he was shook as fuck (that nigga was shook ones pt. 2). It took the Hulk to even crack Onslaught's armor

    Skaar used his old power to levitate him becuz he Jugg is unstopable once he gets going. Skaar hit that nigga so hard he dented his helmet and sent him flying into space.

    The gladiator might be the orginal world breaker but Hulk has beaten him when it came to strength.

  • KNiGHTSKNiGHTS Posts: 3,269
    Gladiator is the original Worldbreaker AND Shook One. Dude's power is based on confidence. Son gets depressed and his powers dip. Remind him of a time he fucked up and dude's done.
  • CainCain Posts: 25,973
    lion_heart wrote: »
    Cain1 wrote: »
    lion_heart wrote: »
    Cain1 wrote: »
    Juggs was depowered in WWH but still he held his own for awhile. He begged Cytrroak for his full power and he got it. Hulk knew that he couldn't beat him so when Juggs ran at him he jumped away and Juggs on motion ran himself into a lake. Afterwards Juggs was written out of WWH so Hulk and Sentry could fight.

    The thing about Juggs he never really given all of Cyttorak power. He was given a larger portion in one comic arc and he was the strongest being ever. He was Scion Juggernaut and he could punch holes in reality.


    You making that shit up. Hulk said he ain't got time for this becuz that fight would take all day so he moved out of the way and Juggs ran into the lake. At one point Marvel said he was stronger than the Hulk but that was back in the 90's now he can't even fuck with Skaar, Hulk's son.

    Remember when Onslaught had Juggs under manners when he ran into him?

    @waterproof and @lion_heart Hulk knew he couldn't beat him out right so he left with Prof X. So how is what I said made up? Onslaught had Prof X mental powers times a 1000. That's Juggs only weakness and not let's forget that Onslaught killed all heros so he's not a slouch.

    The fight with Skaar wasn't a physical fight because Skaar had to use his Old Power to shoot Juggs in space. He didn't hurt Juggs he just used a rock to shoot him in the air. Lol

    Lmao and the fight with Hulk when he was War he was amped up by Celestial armor. He couldn't be hurt or stopped with that armor he had own. So again without Celestial armor Hulk can't beat Juggs in a physical fight.

    @Du_Du the Gladiator did toss Juggs as in the water on the show and in the comic book. Gladiator is the original world breaker since his one punch can break planets. Also his powers are driven by will power so if he can think he can do it it will happen


    @Lou Cypher Juggs is back fully powered now. He got his powers back in Thunderbolts last book.

    The made up part was that you think Hulk knew he couldn't beat him and that wasn't the case. Hulk basically said that he didn't have all day so he redirected Jugg and let him go into the lake.

    Onslaught ain't use his mental powers on Jugg. He hit that nigga so hard we went flying half way through the country. When the X Men found him he was shook as fuck (that nigga was shook ones pt. 2). It took the Hulk to even crack Onslaught's armor

    Skaar used his old power to levitate him becuz he Jugg is unstopable once he gets going. Skaar hit that nigga so hard he dented his helmet and sent him flying into space.

    The gladiator might be the orginal world breaker but Hulk has beaten him when it came to strength.

    Skaar dent ok ng a helmet does not mean his stronger than Juggs. Lol he threw him in space still not a physical fight so again no Hulk has physically beat Juggs on there own merit.

    Onslaught went at Juggs first when he fell out of the sky coming from another universe. Onslaught had Prof X personna and it hated Juggs. Reread that book and see what really happen. Dude came at Juggs wanting him to help Juggs said no onslaught used his powers and wiped his mind then threw him to New York.
  • lion_heartlion_heart Posts: 1,334
    Cain1 wrote: »
    lion_heart wrote: »
    Cain1 wrote: »
    lion_heart wrote: »
    Cain1 wrote: »
    Juggs was depowered in WWH but still he held his own for awhile. He begged Cytrroak for his full power and he got it. Hulk knew that he couldn't beat him so when Juggs ran at him he jumped away and Juggs on motion ran himself into a lake. Afterwards Juggs was written out of WWH so Hulk and Sentry could fight.

    The thing about Juggs he never really given all of Cyttorak power. He was given a larger portion in one comic arc and he was the strongest being ever. He was Scion Juggernaut and he could punch holes in reality.


    You making that shit up. Hulk said he ain't got time for this becuz that fight would take all day so he moved out of the way and Juggs ran into the lake. At one point Marvel said he was stronger than the Hulk but that was back in the 90's now he can't even fuck with Skaar, Hulk's son.

    Remember when Onslaught had Juggs under manners when he ran into him?

    @waterproof and @lion_heart Hulk knew he couldn't beat him out right so he left with Prof X. So how is what I said made up? Onslaught had Prof X mental powers times a 1000. That's Juggs only weakness and not let's forget that Onslaught killed all heros so he's not a slouch.

    The fight with Skaar wasn't a physical fight because Skaar had to use his Old Power to shoot Juggs in space. He didn't hurt Juggs he just used a rock to shoot him in the air. Lol

    Lmao and the fight with Hulk when he was War he was amped up by Celestial armor. He couldn't be hurt or stopped with that armor he had own. So again without Celestial armor Hulk can't beat Juggs in a physical fight.

    @Du_Du the Gladiator did toss Juggs as in the water on the show and in the comic book. Gladiator is the original world breaker since his one punch can break planets. Also his powers are driven by will power so if he can think he can do it it will happen


    @Lou Cypher Juggs is back fully powered now. He got his powers back in Thunderbolts last book.

    The made up part was that you think Hulk knew he couldn't beat him and that wasn't the case. Hulk basically said that he didn't have all day so he redirected Jugg and let him go into the lake.

    Onslaught ain't use his mental powers on Jugg. He hit that nigga so hard we went flying half way through the country. When the X Men found him he was shook as fuck (that nigga was shook ones pt. 2). It took the Hulk to even crack Onslaught's armor

    Skaar used his old power to levitate him becuz he Jugg is unstopable once he gets going. Skaar hit that nigga so hard he dented his helmet and sent him flying into space.

    The gladiator might be the orginal world breaker but Hulk has beaten him when it came to strength.

    Skaar dent ok ng a helmet does not mean his stronger than Juggs. Lol he threw him in space still not a physical fight so again no Hulk has physically beat Juggs on there own merit.

    Onslaught went at Juggs first when he fell out of the sky coming from another universe. Onslaught had Prof X personna and it hated Juggs. Reread that book and see what really happen. Dude came at Juggs wanting him to help Juggs said no onslaught used his powers and wiped his mind then threw him to New York.

    Skaar vs Juggs

    He ain't throw him. If you watch put that shit on mute. I can't fuck with that music
  • louis richlouis rich Posts: 1,828
    limitless rage = strength vs limitless magic = invulnerable, its a Draw in my book
  • DWODWO Posts: 42,859
    edited February 2013
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYRi7jygVnQ

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    1015834-597676_juggs_gladiator1_super_super.jpg

    gladiator wrecked jugggs
  • Hulk is still the only character in the entire marvel universe that has ever stopped Juggernaut.

    Hulk>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
  • CainCain Posts: 25,973
    When did Hulk stop Juggernaut? Don't give the answer when he was powered by Apocalypse either.
  • DarkRaidenDarkRaiden Posts: 1,348
    No and Yes. Pretty much no one can put Juggs down for good, cause he's immortal and physical damage can't hurt him. He also regenerates fast as well. Even Odin can't put him down for good.

    As for beating him, yes. It's called BFR, battlefield removal and it's how everyone beats Juggs when it makes sense.
  • konceptjoneskonceptjones Posts: 8,846
    edited February 2013
    Cain1 wrote: »
    When did Hulk stop Juggernaut? Don't give the answer when he was powered by Apocalypse either.

    He wasn't necessarily "powered" by Apocalypse, but more "enhanced". Specific to this conversation, Hulk's strength was no longer rage-fueled when he was War, so he had complete access to what has been described on many occasions as unlimited strength at any given moment. Because he had access to the totality of his strength, he could stop Juggernaut cold. This means that Hulk could still do it if he was enraged enough to do so.
  • lion_heartlion_heart Posts: 1,334
    Du_Du wrote: »
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYRi7jygVnQ

    1239126-juggernaut_stopped_super.jpg
    1015834-597676_juggs_gladiator1_super_super.jpg

    gladiator wrecked jugggs

    Hulk vs Gladiator

    Starts about 11:08
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