Kareem vs. Mike......seriously.

Mister B.Mister B. The IC'sTeacher...learn some shit!Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 2013 in From the Cheap Seats
I have YET to hear a comprehensive argument for why Mike is better than Kareem. And I've been saying Kareem>Mike for the better part of 10 years.

Someone please tell me - in the best terms - as to why Mike should be THE GOAT over Alcindor A.K.A. Abdul-Jabbar.

Stop running. Face this shit.
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  • MR.CJMR.CJ Posts: 52,021 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jordan should thank nike. Some people just forget about kareem.
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  • SocialAssassinRatiSocialAssassinRati Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Impact, popularity, charisma, athleticism, clutch gene, didnt look like a diet milk dud with check cashing windows on for goggles(ie marketability), played the game the way no one else before him, and most importantly he didnt alienate himself from crackaz like KAJ
  • dalyricalbanditdalyricalbandit Co-Owner Of AllhipHop.com, Super Moderator, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 52,104 Regulator
    It's all opinion, Jordan the GOAT in my eyes because i actually saw him play and dominate the league. Kareem's career was over when i was 3 so i never saw him play. The league made rules like illegal offense because Jordan was that much better and teams couldn't stop him.

    miamivice305
  • DaBullDaBull Posts: 7,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    they have always been 1 and 2 in my book...with kareem being 1
  • blu197blu197 Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Should've been a poll.....
    But Mike is better
    And i would take a prime Hakeem,Tim Duncan & Shaq>>>>>>>> KAJ
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  • TRILLip BrooksTRILLip Brooks Lefty Gunz, Lord High Executioner Posts: 17,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wouldn't even put KAJ over Hakeem
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  • NothingButTheTruthNothingButTheTruth Posts: 9,562 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm going with Kareem.
  • O.G.O.G. I WILL THROW THEM HANDS. Posts: 4,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Co-signs this thread. Nba careers its a coin flip but throw in the college careers also and The Big Fella is tops.
  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Posts: 16,805 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Admittedly I didn't see much of Kareem's play either, MJ just seemed to be able to do more than Kareem. And a lot of Kareem's stats are bloated because of the length of time he played. That's not to say he wasn't great, just that it's easier to be the all time scorer when you played 5 - 10 years longer than any of the other people in contention for that title.
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  • 1CK1S1CK1S Posts: 16,789 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Really T/S??? Nobody's touching Jordan & I'd rate Bill Russell & Wilt higher than Kareem!!!
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  • Mister B.Mister B. The IC'sTeacher...learn some shit! Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    icks86 wrote: »
    Really T/S??? Nobody's touching Jordan & I'd rate Bill Russell & Wilt higher than Kareem!!!

    Really, negro. Look at the responses. I'm not the only one who'se felt this way.
  • afromoafromo Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All about opinion you could start a team with either kareem, magic, mike, or bird and go on and win multiple titles. its the beauty of basketball. I'll take mike only because of his insane competitiveness and elevation of his play in the playoffs were uncanny. The guy literally turned on a switch and went up levels in the finals. You cant go wrong with any. I love kobe but I find it funny how the kobe stans on this board are quick to say Kareem is better than mike but what pushes kobe over kareem as the GOAT as some of you have said?
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  • ShizlanskyShizlansky Nothing better then being a father. Posts: 20,234 ✭✭✭✭✭
    10 time scoring champ.

    Career average of 30 (tied for first all-time)

    6 time champ
    6 time finals MVP

    That's why MJ is the GOAT
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  • northside7northside7 Posts: 18,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    afromo wrote: »
    All about opinion you could start a team with either kareem, magic, mike, or bird and go on and win multiple titles. its the beauty of basketball. I'll take mike only because of his insane competitiveness and elevation of his play in the playoffs were uncanny. The guy literally turned on a switch and went up levels in the finals. You cant go wrong with any. I love kobe but I find it funny how the kobe stans on this board are quick to say Kareem is better than mike but what pushes kobe over kareem as the GOAT as some of you have said?

    The bold and the fact I saw him play. Way too young to have seen Kareem play.

    The part about Kobe makes no sense at all. Just leave that alone lol
  • afromoafromo Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    lol I meant Kobe fans say hes the GOAT and also say Kareem is better than MJ, so what makes kobe better than kareem
  • DaBullDaBull Posts: 7,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    look at espn, when Bill Russell birthday came, there was no special dedicated to his most important moments
    same with kareem

    meanwhile MJ turning 50 and espn about to have 23,456 specials on this nigga like we dont know everything he did already

    MJ has had the most exposure by a huge margin which is why everyone has a false view of him being far and above a better player than every other great


    afromo wrote: »
    lol I meant Kobe fans say hes the GOAT and also say Kareem is better than MJ, so what makes kobe better than kareem

    bruh, this thread is about Kareem and MJ, take the other stuff somewhere else
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  • woah316woah316 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    -Kareem also played with the greatest point guard of all time, BY FAR.... Many consider Magic better than kareem.. So how could he be better than Mike if he wasn't even the best on his own team?


    -Magic >>> Scottie pippen... (and lakers supporting casts >>> bulls supporting casts)


    -Jordan never lost in a finals series


    Wait why am I even entertaining this, I've been dupped
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  • O.G.O.G. I WILL THROW THEM HANDS. Posts: 4,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Remembers when niggas was rushin' to get the new Kareem's way before the air jordans.

    Remembers when an old ass kareem was still the go to guy in the finsls vs pistons.

    Remembers when kareem was beastin' on my sixers before hr hurt his ankle and magic finished off the series for L.A.

    I always felt the media felt kareem was aloof and distant bcuz of his muslim conversion. IMO they didnt give him his deserved credit.

    Its kinda hard to compare the twos numbers becuz one had control over the ball and the other had to wait until he got the ball or go get it himself.
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  • afromoafromo Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DaBull wrote: »
    look at espn, when Bill Russell birthday came, there was no special dedicated to his most important moments
    same with kareem

    meanwhile MJ turning 50 and espn about to have 23,456 specials on this nigga like we dont know everything he did already

    MJ has had the most exposure by a huge margin which is why everyone has a false view of him being far and above a better player than every other great


    afromo wrote: »
    lol I meant Kobe fans say hes the GOAT and also say Kareem is better than MJ, so what makes kobe better than kareem

    bruh, this thread is about Kareem and MJ, take the other stuff somewhere else

    why u duckin though kobe is the GOAT aint he?
  • DR. JEKDR. JEK Posts: 3,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    One reason Kareem a little lower than MJ is because the nigga Kareem wouldn't be able to make a sky hook from 3 point range when you're down by 3 with 3 seconds left but we trust Jordan in that situation. And before I get called a hater I'm actually a Kareem fan sayin this.

    Now mods, lock up this shock thread please
  • afromoafromo Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    One reason Kareem a little lower than MJ is because the nigga Kareem wouldn't be able to make a sky hook from 3 pint range when you're down by 3 with 3 seconds left but we trust Jordan in that situation. and before I get called a hater I actually a Kareem fan sayin this.

    Now mods, lock up this shock thread please

    So ur saying no big man can be the GOAT?
  • DR. JEKDR. JEK Posts: 3,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    afromo wrote: »
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    One reason Kareem a little lower than MJ is because the nigga Kareem wouldn't be able to make a sky hook from 3 pint range when you're down by 3 with 3 seconds left but we trust Jordan in that situation. and before I get called a hater I actually a Kareem fan sayin this.

    Now mods, lock up this shock thread please

    So ur saying no big man can be the GOAT?


    not saying that. These days centers can shoot from outside but if you needed a 3 to win the game you had to go to magic or coop or Byron Scott. How can you be the Goat if you wasn't even getting the ball at the end of the game?

    Centers can be called the goat at their position or the goat of their era but until people show me a guy who's skillset allows then to dominate the game from anywhere on the floor for as long a period of time as Jordan did in the golden age of big men and when you was allowed to handcheck flagerent foul without getting calls, it's not that easy to say so and so is better than Jordan based on how MJ locked the league down for so long.
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