Lets Discuss the Description of Babylon ...

PremeerPremeer Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 2013 in For The Grown & Sexy
we'll start off with Rev. 1:6

Rev. 1:6

AND there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgement of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and i saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blashphemy, having seven heads and 10 horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked out with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication. And upon her forhead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON, THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And i saw the woman drunked with the blood of saints, and with the blood of the marytyrs of Jesus: and when i saw her, i wondered with great admiration. [/b

so in this short scripture, we have this about Babylon.. Babylon:

-sits upon many waters
-Kings from around the world committed fornication with her
-she made the world drunk with her fornication
-sits upon a scarlet coloured beast with names of blashpemy with7 heades and 10 horns
-dressed in purple and scarlet
-accessories: gold and diamonds / precious stones
-holding a golden cup full of abominations and filthiness from her fornication
-she was drunk with the blood of saints and with the blood of marytyrs of Jesus
-And she was admired (great)

ok. all of this is symbolic, obviously. luckily, i have been into dreams and its symbolism the last few years, so breaking this down wasnt as hard as it could have been. now let me tell you why Babylon is America:

sits upon many waters- America is surrounded by Atlantic, Pacific, and the Gulf of Mexico

Kings from around the world committed fornication with her- Babylon is the "whore" so "fornication" is symbloc for dirty business. All the "kings" from around the world come here to do business

she made the world drunk with her fornication -

sits upon a scarlet coloured beast with names of blashpemy with 7 heades and 10 horns-

dressed in purple and scarlet - the symbolism here is the colors- purple: royalty, high rank, justice, wealth and dignity. scarlet: Flagrantly immoral or unchaste. basically very sinful.. (another reference to scarlet in the Bible:Isaiah 1-18
come now, and let us reason together, said the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow)... i think the colors definitions / symbolism are self-explanatory.

accessories: gold and diamonds / precious stones- this is clearly just referencing the whores appearance and what they value.. gold and diamonds, which can relate to money and fame, self absorbed, living for the world and the worlds glory. look at what "america" loves and obsesses over, here, its all about fame (much more than any other nation. in fact, america is commonly known around the world to be obsessed with fame.) america loves / lusts money, jewelry, flashy things, etc... so again, this description fits america to a T.

holding a golden cup full of abominations and filthiness from her fornication -

she was drunk with the blood of saints and with the blood of marytyrs of Jesus -

And she was admired (great)- clearly, america is looked at around the world as the great nation. look at america as if america is on a pedal-stool for its "greatness" as a nation.



the ones i left blank are ones im not exactly sure of how to explain, so i dont want to put anything thats not clear / false / misunderstood. im sure DoUWant2Go2Heaven can smooth break those down without a hesitation.

but thats what this thread is about... discussing Babylon.

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  • Judah BackJudah Back Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Babylon
    Babylon
    out my window all I see is Babylon
    on the news all i see is Babylon
    and all niggas do is just babble onnnnnn
    money and hoes.." - ab-soul

    im sry this is all i have to contribute at the moment
  • fortyacres&amulefortyacres&amule wubalubadubdub Posts: 14,829 Regulator
    edited February 2013
    BobMarley-BabylonByBus.jpg

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  • PremeerPremeer Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VIBE wrote: »
    DoU says its America, even though "no one knows". How is it "mystery Babylon" when it is easy to decipher?

    Babylon = whatever you want it to be.

    babylon - been a mystery since, forever.. up until NOW, people are catching on to what babylon is. and even still, obviously, people dont know.. like you and everybody else on here not having a clue what the thread is about.


    im sure you didnt even read a word .. i broke down exactly how the description is america.

    you should humble yourself to learn something once in a while.
  • twatgettatwatgetta Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • sullysully Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Perfect wrote: »
    gotdammit sully, you stole all i had to contribute. typical cracker

    The only thing insulting about that is that you think i'm white.
  • PremeerPremeer Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    Oceanic wrote: »
    Ancient Rome and the Catholic Church

    /thread

    sorry to say it, but ancient rome is impossible.. its ancient, and babylon is the last great nation...

    get it together.
  • VIBEVIBE The Man, The Myth, The Fommie Posts: 41,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Like I said, it can be any country you choose that fits te description. It doesn't have to be America.
  • gem$tonegem$tone Posts: 452 ✭✭✭✭
    Why not MT. Olympus

    Why not Atlantis? Did it fall during the 40 days/nights flood?
  • BodhiBodhi Posts: 7,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    100 Prime wrote: »
    Oceanic wrote: »
    Ancient Rome and the Catholic Church

    /thread

    sorry to say it, but ancient rome is impossible.. its ancient, and babylon is the last great nation...

    get it together.

    The woman in the description of Babylon represents a church as does the "bride of Christ" The church is always metaphorically mentioned by way of a woman.


    Revelation 17:9
    The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.

    The Rome of the Kings was built on seven hills: the Aventine Hill, the Caelian Hill, the Capitoline Hill, the Esquiline Hill, the Palatine Hill, the Quirinal Hill, and the Viminal Hill.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome


    The woman in revelations is described as riding a beast. Since woman represents the church and the beast as described in the bible represents a Kingdom, the metaphor means that the church is riding the kingdom. In other words, the church is controlling the kingdom. The papacy had major power over the political leaders throughout history.


    Mystery babylon is described as a rich church.

    ...Obvious...


    "The mother of prositutes" means that the Church "whores" itself out to pagan religions and worship of foreign gods.

    The Romans were notorious for pagan worship and polytheism. Early Christians were persecuted for their beliefs until Christianity was legalized in 313.

    Nowadays it can be debated that Catholicism involves worship of the saints.


    Revelations 17:1
    Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters
    Revelations 17:15
    The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages.

    The Roman Catholic Church has one of the largest percentage of members within Christianity.

    The Catholic Church, also known as the Roman Catholic Church, is the world's largest Christian Church, with more than one billion members worldwide
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_church
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  • BodhiBodhi Posts: 7,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • zombiezombie Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mystery babylon is unrestricted capitalism the hidden hand of the market ,greed and the love of money and all the things it produces. Heartless Capitalism is the mother of all harlots not america america is only a child of the mother of all harlots mystery babylon.
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  • PremeerPremeer Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1354070002570.jpg

    HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
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  • PremeerPremeer Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    lol @ this thread going plat with solely oceanic posting his non-sense lol
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  • CopperCopper The WickPosts: 38,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    chant down
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  • blacktuxblacktux Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭✭✭
    100 Prime wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    DoU says its America, even though "no one knows". How is it "mystery Babylon" when it is easy to decipher?

    Babylon = whatever you want it to be.

    babylon - been a mystery since, forever.. up until NOW, people are catching on to what babylon is. and even still, obviously, people dont know.. like you and everybody else on here not having a clue what the thread is about.


    im sure you didnt even read a word .. i broke down exactly how the description is america.

    you should humble yourself to learn something once in a while.

    If you broke down something "exactly" you wouldnt have openings in your theory.

    You are just picking and choosing pieces of the bible to support some bullshit.... Anyone of intelligence would look at that shit and see it for the fairytale bullshit it is.

  • BodhiBodhi Posts: 7,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Revelations 17:5
    Mother of Harlets

    The Roman Catholic Church is thought by some to be the mother church of the Protestant and other churches that broke away from it over time. Prominent among these are Lutheran, Reformed, Anglican churches and other Christian faith communities formed over time from these.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Church#The_Roman_Catholic_Church

  • PremeerPremeer Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    100 Prime wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    DoU says its America, even though "no one knows". How is it "mystery Babylon" when it is easy to decipher?

    Babylon = whatever you want it to be.

    babylon - been a mystery since, forever.. up until NOW, people are catching on to what babylon is. and even still, obviously, people dont know.. like you and everybody else on here not having a clue what the thread is about.


    im sure you didnt even read a word .. i broke down exactly how the description is america.

    you should humble yourself to learn something once in a while.

    If you broke down something "exactly" you wouldnt have openings in your theory.

    You are just picking and choosing pieces of the bible to support some bullshit.... Anyone of intelligence would look at that shit and see it for the fairytale bullshit it is.

    im not picking and choosing nothing lol i made it clear im not exactly sure how to explain the openings. dont mean its not true.

    just because you cant explain something (yet) dont mean its not true...


    that would beat the purpose of the whole idea of "learning"... you know what learning means?
  • powerman 5000powerman 5000 Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rome is known to be built upon seven hills. Rome was said to have been founded when Romulus and Remus, twin sons of Mars, ended up at the foot of the hill Palatine and founded the city. The other six hills are Capitoline (the seat of government), Quirinal, Viminal, Esquiline, Caelian, and Aventine.

    geography.about.com/library/faq/blqzromeseven.htm
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  • PremeerPremeer Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL @ oceanic posting information from thousands of years ago...

    we're talking about babylon... which is in revelation... do you know what the book of revelation is? its about the end of the world, silly boi.

    why do atheists insist on talking about the Bible?
    Bodhi
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