Is it almost cool today to be A RAPPER WHO CAN'T RAP?

Disciplined InSightDisciplined InSight The Clairvoyant One.... Posts: 12,983 ✭✭✭✭✭
I mean let's be serious...because of the advanced technological revolution any asshole can become a rapper...It's not oblivious to the fact that the majority of these artists are about the money, so learning the craft and skills is an AFTERTHOUGHT because the top objects to rap about: sex, drugs, money=$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.


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  • mr.octobermr.october Posts: 238 ✭✭✭
    As long as people keep buying they will keep selling. U go 2 the club n get turnt up 2 it and the girls dance 2 it. The radio n tv play it. Yeah it's more profitable 2 have a gimmick not necessarily have talent but that will never change. I don't think it's cool cuz to be a rapper n not know how 2 rap but u can make simple tracks that r easy 2 follow about whatever.
  • 5th Letter5th Letter AKA 5th Element Posts: 26,428 Regulator
    A1000MILES wrote: »
    These Lil John mentions make no sense...John was/is a DJ, not a rapper, and he has never presented himself as a rapper the media did that...That's like sayin "Ever since Khaled blew up, rappers can't do a song by themselves"...Plus, the chants/verses John does on songs weren't some type of groundbreaking shit that had never been heard from a dj before...Niggas gon act like they don't remember a huge song by the name of "Let Me Clear My Throat"...

    you serious?
  • loch121loch121 Posts: 10,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    Music is more about relation than talent.

    being a wack rapper has been cool for a good 8 yrs now

    In fact rapping good has been looked down upon for a while until Wayne caught a good wind w/ The carter, then found Drake leading to your Cole's and Big Seans, and kendrick Lamars being commercial successes as far as new artists

    The south doesn't give a fuck about lyrics as a whole it's more about catchy songs ppl can dance to and lyrics are optional.

    There are southern artists who are very lyrical but besides Scarface,Outkast,TI and Luda most remain underground,local,or got a low profile
    SWAMPGODEar2DaSt
  • LUClENLUClEN Sociologist and Logician Hitler's VaginaPosts: 16,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They have the internet on computers now?
  • A1000MILESA1000MILES Posts: 13,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jamaica wrote: »
    A1000MILES wrote: »
    These Lil John mentions make no sense...John was/is a DJ, not a rapper, and he has never presented himself as a rapper the media did that...That's like sayin "Ever since Khaled blew up, rappers can't do a song by themselves"...Plus, the chants/verses John does on songs weren't some type of groundbreaking shit that had never been heard from a dj before...Niggas gon act like they don't remember a huge song by the name of "Let Me Clear My Throat"...

    you serious?

    The only times I've seen him referred to as a rapper, it was white people or the news...He's not a rapper, he's a dj/producer that put his club chants on actual songs...He got some songs where its just him but for the most part he does the hook and let's the rappers handle the rest...Sayin "Put yo hands up" and "run around the mothafuckin club" over and over makes you a rapper now?...I've never seen or heard any rapper say "Well, when Kings of Crunk revolutionized the game, I just said fuck tryin to have skills"...I ain't never seen Lil John on nobody top 5...
    SWAMPGOD
  • Billy_PonchoBilly_Poncho Fly solo like a fighter jet Posts: 17,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Name me a song where Lil Jon referred to himself as a rapper, dude's always presented himself as a DJ/producer...
  • 5th Letter5th Letter AKA 5th Element Posts: 26,428 Regulator
    A1000MILES wrote: »
    Jamaica wrote: »
    A1000MILES wrote: »
    These Lil John mentions make no sense...John was/is a DJ, not a rapper, and he has never presented himself as a rapper the media did that...That's like sayin "Ever since Khaled blew up, rappers can't do a song by themselves"...Plus, the chants/verses John does on songs weren't some type of groundbreaking shit that had never been heard from a dj before...Niggas gon act like they don't remember a huge song by the name of "Let Me Clear My Throat"...

    you serious?

    The only times I've seen him referred to as a rapper, it was white people or the news...He's not a rapper, he's a dj/producer that put his club chants on actual songs...He got some songs where its just him but for the most part he does the hook and let's the rappers handle the rest...Sayin "Put yo hands up" and "run around the mothafuckin club" over and over makes you a rapper now?...I've never seen or heard any rapper say "Well, when Kings of Crunk revolutionized the game, I just said fuck tryin to have skills"...I ain't never seen Lil John on nobody top 5...

    I've heard him rap on more occasions than I'd like. The thing is him chanting over and over on songs and making hits sets the precedent that you don't have to have good bars. That shit influenced a generation of wack rappers that do similar shit and got hits word to soulja boy.
    SWAMPGODWild SelfSolitary Soldieridoitforhiphop10
  • A1000MILESA1000MILES Posts: 13,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Soulja Boy has never done anything remotely close to soundin like Lil John...And Johns songs ain't set a precedent for shit...Nobody was tryna copy his song format, maybe his style of production...
    SWAMPGOD
  • 5th Letter5th Letter AKA 5th Element Posts: 26,428 Regulator
    A1000MILES wrote: »
    Soulja Boy has never done anything remotely close to soundin like Lil John...And Johns songs ain't set a precedent for shit...Nobody was tryna copy his song format, maybe his style of production...

    where did i say he did something to sound like lil jon? I said lil Jon style of chanting on the song over and over influenced a generation of rappers and I used Soulja Boy for example. He may not make his music to sound like Jon's to the tee, but the one thing that have in common was the repeating of the same words and chanting the same shit and calling it a verse. Waka Flocka is another one that has SOME lil Jon in him.

    SWAMPGODilledoutWild Selfidoitforhiphop10
  • A1000MILESA1000MILES Posts: 13,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Soulja Boy raps in most his verses, cuh, whether it's wack or not he sets out to deliver structured bars of rhymes...John doesn't...Where is the influence?...Matter fact, Soulja Boy has been more influential to the rap game in this millennium than Lil John, and SB is not really poppin right now...Chants that rappers like him and Flocka do are called ad libs...When a DJ like John gives call and response commands, it's not the same thing...
    SWAMPGODStoneColdMikey
  • 5th Letter5th Letter AKA 5th Element Posts: 26,428 Regulator
    A1000MILES wrote: »
    Soulja Boy raps in most his verses, cuh, whether it's wack or not he sets out to deliver structured bars of rhymes...John doesn't...Where is the influence?...Matter fact, Soulja Boy has been more influential to the rap game in this millennium than Lil John, and SB is not really poppin right now...Chants that rappers like him and Flocka do are called ad libs...When a DJ like John gives call and response commands, it's not the same thing...

    Because Soulja Boy is a rapper that's why he would "rap in most of his verses". You're saying Lil Jon doesn't set out to put structure in his bars? That's even worse if that's true however he has enough songs with him rapping so pardon anyone that would mistake him as a rapper. Kinda like what Swizz Beats does when he does hooks and occasionally spit a verse. If you want I can put up at least 5 songs with Lil Jon attempting to rap.

    I know the difference between an adlib and a chant.
    soul rattleridoitforhiphop10
  • DMTxTHCDMTxTHC Posts: 14,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ODB didn't suck though.. and nobody glorifies U-God, lol..
    Solitary Soldieridoitforhiphop10
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