Complex: Will You '90s Babies Shut Up and Admit Rap Was 100 Times Better in the '90s?

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  • ocelotocelot Posts: 9,459
    So born in the 90s babies are 90s babies now?... If you're past 91 you're no longer generation Y... You're generation ME.
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    We went to music stores to get music.



    Tapes rocked 'til tapes popped. CDs scratched and skipped. Richer sounding vinyl required constant attention or it warped like neglected children. And for all these headaches, a tangible music collection could also have your spot looking like an episode of Hoarders. Still, as these technologies went the way of the woolly mammoth, hip-hop lost something important: the music store.

    Every community needs a place to gather, share information, and debate. Until the digital revolution, famed shops like Manhattan's Fat Beats, Brooklyn's Beat Street Records, L.A.'s VIP Records, and lesser-known but equally important local fixtures were musical Meccas where rap heads made weekly pilgrimages to cop new releases (when "first" actually meant something), be put up on artists, watch in-store performances, hop in freestyle ciphers, and kick it with people who shared their passion for boom-bap.

    The Internet provides the simulacrum of the record shop experience now with social networks and music databases, but connecting (in the loosest sense of the word) to 100 million people in isolation via "likes," RTs, comments sections, and tag-driven links to other artist pages pales in comparison to looking someone in the eye and giving them a pound. Not to mention, it might get you catfished

    This is the truth. I remember the several hours of life I spent at Sam Goody, Warehouse, Record Town, etc...

    Now the only places I know similar to this are Amoeba and Rasputin. Damn.
  • Monizzle14Monizzle14 Posts: 10,293
    I fucks with collecting CD's but amazon $2 or $3 Mp3's >>>>> buing a $15 cd at a store. Shit i got GKMC for $2 on amazon and a few other cd's for that price like Krits LFTUG.
  • Complex making articles about themselves again i see

    Them muthafuckas love coddling and making excuses for wack trends and artists then dropping shit like this as if they arent partially to blame for co-signing and not policing anything as a publication with such attention toward it.
  • cosign...

    you young niggas man... it aint that we shitting on you... we pitying you... it's easy to see why we pity you when you aren't reliant on some type irradiated communications device, 24/7...

    to see yall act like sheep... shit is sad yo...
    and the fucked up part about it, is yall will say that im outta touch with reality....

    while doing your best to simulate augmented reality and deus ex machina...

    you niggas aint transformers... yall go-bots...
    Quoted for realness. Exactly my point as well.
  • Swiffness!Swiffness! Posts: 6,719
    Beats are better tho and anyone that think otherwise is kidding themselves
  • I guess Complex is trying to make up for all the BS lists...
  • 1. why is anybody taking complex seriously?
    2. all this "the 90's was better" talk sounds like my mom in the 80's when she said " that rap shit is only a fad they aint no gil scott herron"
    3. you oldheads need to let these young niggas do their thing
  • Black_SamsonBlack_Samson Posts: 40,601
    optimistic wrote: »
    1. why is anybody taking complex seriously?
    2. all this "the 90's was better" talk sounds like my mom in the 80's when she said " that rap shit is only a fad they aint no gil scott herron"
    3. you oldheads need to let these young niggas do their thing
    yeah... cause it's not like Japan hasn't done this already and it not have a negative impact on their kids, social ability, and ability to breed.

    if we dont keep these niggas grounded in reality then our youth will be just as lost.

    them japanese let their kids get lost in fantasy and now look... killing themselves over webcomics, animes, and video games... broadcasting suicides via the internet, all with dramatic ass suicide notes trying to rationalize their decisions, sent to people that dont give a shit.

    only a matter of time till it starts happening here... oh wait... its already starting to spread... isnt it???

    oops...
  • optimistic wrote: »
    1. why is anybody taking complex seriously?
    2. all this "the 90's was better" talk sounds like my mom in the 80's when she said " that rap shit is only a fad they aint no gil scott herron"
    3. you oldheads need to let these young niggas do their thing
    yeah... cause it's not like Japan hasn't done this already and it not have a negative impact on their kids, social ability, and ability to breed.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    i'm not understanding how this relates to musical choices

    if we dont keep these niggas grounded in reality then our youth will be just as lost.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    soooooo grounded in reality is 90's hip hop the same hip hop that had the kids running around acting like mobsters?
    them japanese let their kids get lost in fantasy and now look... killing themselves over webcomics, animes, and video games... broadcasting suicides via the internet, all with dramatic ass suicide notes trying to rationalize their decisions, sent to people that dont give a shit.
    ^^^^^^^^^
    once again i'm not understanding how this relates to musical choices
    only a matter of time till it starts happening here... oh wait... its already starting to spread... isnt it???


    oops...

    so i guess to sum it up your opinion is ..........listen to 90's hip hop and save the world ooooooookay
  • Black_SamsonBlack_Samson Posts: 40,601
    optimistic wrote: »
    optimistic wrote: »
    1. why is anybody taking complex seriously?
    2. all this "the 90's was better" talk sounds like my mom in the 80's when she said " that rap shit is only a fad they aint no gil scott herron"
    3. you oldheads need to let these young niggas do their thing
    yeah... cause it's not like Japan hasn't done this already and it not have a negative impact on their kids, social ability, and ability to breed.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    i'm not understanding how this relates to musical choices

    if we dont keep these niggas grounded in reality then our youth will be just as lost.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    soooooo grounded in reality is 90's hip hop the same hip hop that had the kids running around acting like mobsters?
    them japanese let their kids get lost in fantasy and now look... killing themselves over webcomics, animes, and video games... broadcasting suicides via the internet, all with dramatic ass suicide notes trying to rationalize their decisions, sent to people that dont give a shit.
    ^^^^^^^^^
    once again i'm not understanding how this relates to musical choices
    only a matter of time till it starts happening here... oh wait... its already starting to spread... isnt it???


    oops...

    so i guess to sum it up your opinion is ..........listen to 90's hip hop and save the world ooooooookay

    now youre trackin....
  • CirocObamaCirocObama Posts: 3,825
    edited February 2013
    "Now people can't wave their hands in the air because they're too busy Instagramming and Twitpic'in and Four-Squaring and branding themselves as a 21st century "party person in the place to be" instead of paying attention to the artist on the stage. The real question: is that their fault? Or the fault of technology? Or are today's MCs just not living up to Rakim's definition of the term: "Cause to me, MC means move the crowd."

    Spot on.

    I usually dislike these 90's discussions tho especially from people who were kids or never into rap at the time. Problem is they let the nostalgia factor blind them. You can see it even here. What i said about how artists like a 2pac, Biggie etc were viewed back then was real and honest shit yet people caught mad feelings because yall were kids who got caught up in that whole media aura after they died and now yall older with that idea of them being rap gods or some shit brainwashed in your heads.

    The whole "90's was better" is such a internet trend. I agree with some, disagree with others. I just hate the fake talk and the delusional shit. Shit was not that different back in the day no matter what you guys think.

    Yall saw the comment on that Ja Rule song "Mesmerize" or whatever it was, right? But niggas who really were old enough to remember how hip-hop felt about a song like that know the deal. Kids who grow up now will say the same dumb shit in 10 years.

    Again, it's that nostalgia factor. People associate certain artists/songs/albums with a certain time in their life and the further they grow from that time the more they miss it and the more value they place on those artists/songs/albums.
  • CirocObamaCirocObama Posts: 3,825
    edited February 2013
    See, comments like this are a real reality of that era. Not some internet trendy bullshit gone from generation to the next with a strong fake sense of reality.

    Found this on the net..

    "When I was growing up in the early 90's, and I had my westcoast tapes, my older cousins were talking about how wack Coolio and Domino were and how Rob Bass and Public Enemy shits on them. Every older generation thinks their music was better and somewhere between their time listening to music and now, someone or somewhere fucked it up. What's the difference between some of the shit that plays now and 2 Live Crew or Gucci Crew II (yes that was an 80's group with a hit song) or Tone-Loc. People act like everyone was digging Poor Righteous Teachers when they only had one hit and it was called Butt Naked Booty Bliss. MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice were the most popular artist while Public Enemy was dropping classics. Things ain't change, we only remember what we want to. You can't tell me I Got 5 On It was a great lyrical classic, or that the Luniz had any hits afterwards. Saying Hip-Hop is ruined is to deny people like Kendrick Lamar or J.Cole or Lupe don't exist. To say Kanye West ruined Hip-Hop is to act like College Dropout didn't exist and it's to ignore that for the last 10 years the hottest tracks have said produced by Kanye West. Nothing's change but the quality of the recordings."
  • Everybody had a lane and the fans supported. Thats why the 90's where better. And every type of rap was actually getting radio play.
  • 32DaysOfInfiniti32DaysOfInfiniti Posts: 3,134
    edited February 2013
    Everybody had a lane and the fans supported. Thats why the 90's where better. And every type of rap was actually getting radio play.

    No, thats why people were more readily successful because people didnt have lanes and it forced the world to open up.

    Now everybody is in a lane and if you get out of it people are going to blame you for the pile up

    You are right about the support part though, nowadays though they know "the formula" or what "a hit" sounds like so they not taking chances. You can thank ya boy Dr. Dre for alot of that

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