Screw all this "social experience" bs the big 3 console makers are "marketing"

Monizzle14Monizzle14 Posts: 10,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 2013 in The Arcade
After Wii U and PS4 have released videos and in the Wii U's been released im sick of all this social online experience bs. And while the next xbox hasnt been confirmed im sure they will do the same bs.

Why? Because they want people who are not gamers but have temple run on the i phone to consider buying a console which wont happen. I feel like for this generation it is important that all 3 console makers focus on showing the games and not this shit about being on some virtual reality bullshit. Casual or once in a blue moon gamer's aren't dropping 400 plus on a home console and with the i pad and iphone having simpler games they might not even buy one at all. So they really need to focus on the niggas who play madden, or play role playing games or play shooters.

Like for example in that ps4 presentation a few days ago no console gamer needs to be shown what to download why is sony even wasting their time on that? But the new killzone that some shit niggas wanna see more of. And that's not to single out playstation because again all 3 companies do the same bs in the presentations. Anyone else agree?
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  • Wild SelfWild Self Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Game consoles do everything and put gaming in later. I already got a laptop. I buy game systems to play games. Not to look up on realitykings.com or my email. lol
  • Monizzle14Monizzle14 Posts: 10,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wild Self wrote: »
    Game consoles do everything and put gaming in later. I already got a laptop. I buy game systems to play games. Not to look up on realitykings.com or my email. lol

    lol woww son you went there hahahahaha. nah but that's what im sayin. a few things are great to have i.e. netflix app for consoles now but outside of something like that im trina play games completely agree.

  • Supreme_GentlemanSupreme_Gentleman #RapeCulture Posts: 19,543 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm ok with the netflix app but there's a problem when the develops are focusing on ustream apps.
    MikeydaGawdjoshuaboy
  • VIBEVIBE Awww Yeeaah! Posts: 37,983 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • Monizzle14Monizzle14 Posts: 10,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VIBE wrote: »
    You guys don't understand the future of big business.

    please elaborate because consoles aren't taking market share from i pad and i phone users who could care less about the next metal gear solid. buying a console for an virtual social world aint no casual gamer got time fo dat lmaooo. Call of duty moves consoles i aint never heard of anybody buying a ps3 for playstation home son lmaoo

    Supreme_Gentleman
  • Supreme_GentlemanSupreme_Gentleman #RapeCulture Posts: 19,543 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    Lol @ sony calling the niggas that aren't down for the social experience anti social. This is what sony thinks of you sonyggers.
    Wild Self
  • VIBEVIBE Awww Yeeaah! Posts: 37,983 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    You guys don't understand the future of big business.

    please elaborate because consoles aren't taking market share from i pad and i phone users who could care less about the next metal gear solid. buying a console for an virtual social world aint no casual gamer got time fo dat lmaooo. Call of duty moves consoles i aint never heard of anybody buying a ps3 for playstation home son lmaoo

    Everything is interactive, big time players use YouTube to get paid, they also use twitter and FaceBook to promote themselves and keep their fans in the loop.

    It's opening the door for more people to do the same. Recording your gameplays and uploading them is the hottest thing to do right now. People are trying to be the next breakout youtube sensation.

    Twitter and FaceBook have millions of users, celebrity endorsed too. The usage of being able to share through that is big.

    YOU may not want to, but what the companies see is bigger than your ideas. Sony has always been ahead of the competition. You'll see.
    scoop1215
  • Monizzle14Monizzle14 Posts: 10,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VIBE wrote: »
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    You guys don't understand the future of big business.

    please elaborate because consoles aren't taking market share from i pad and i phone users who could care less about the next metal gear solid. buying a console for an virtual social world aint no casual gamer got time fo dat lmaooo. Call of duty moves consoles i aint never heard of anybody buying a ps3 for playstation home son lmaoo

    Everything is interactive, big time players use YouTube to get paid, they also use twitter and FaceBook to promote themselves and keep their fans in the loop.

    It's opening the door for more people to do the same. Recording your gameplays and uploading them is the hottest thing to do right now. People are trying to be the next breakout youtube sensation.

    Twitter and FaceBook have millions of users, celebrity endorsed too. The usage of being able to share through that is big.

    YOU may not want to, but what the companies see is bigger than your ideas. Sony has always been ahead of the competition. You'll see.

    youtube videos get paid cents based on every million views or so. The biggest viral videos are not some nigga on halo or uncharted doing some crazy shit so that argument is pointless. Shit it real out here for sony.

    TV's losing market share to samsung LG since the LED HD era
    walkman dead
    sony music group = lackluster sales

    sony is depending on the playstation brand to help the hurting in the company. and ask any market analyst the money in twitter/facebook/youtube views aint shit when it comes to a company that needs billions more in revenue.

    unless you are getting new users to buy a console and or winning back old users you are not going to make profit its that simple lol.
    Wild Self
  • ocelotocelot Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Niggas kill me with this all I care about are the games but don't have a Vita.
  • scoop1215scoop1215 Posts: 301 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    You guys don't understand the future of big business.

    please elaborate because consoles aren't taking market share from i pad and i phone users who could care less about the next metal gear solid. buying a console for an virtual social world aint no casual gamer got time fo dat lmaooo. Call of duty moves consoles i aint never heard of anybody buying a ps3 for playstation home son lmaoo

    Everything is interactive, big time players use YouTube to get paid, they also use twitter and FaceBook to promote themselves and keep their fans in the loop.

    It's opening the door for more people to do the same. Recording your gameplays and uploading them is the hottest thing to do right now. People are trying to be the next breakout youtube sensation.

    Twitter and FaceBook have millions of users, celebrity endorsed too. The usage of being able to share through that is big.

    YOU may not want to, but what the companies see is bigger than your ideas. Sony has always been ahead of the competition. You'll see.

    youtube videos get paid cents based on every million views or so. The biggest viral videos are not some nigga on halo or uncharted doing some crazy shit so that argument is pointless. Shit it real out here for sony.

    TV's losing market share to samsung LG since the LED HD era
    walkman dead
    sony music group = lackluster sales

    sony is depending on the playstation brand to help the hurting in the company. and ask any market analyst the money in twitter/facebook/youtube views aint shit when it comes to a company that needs billions more in revenue.

    unless you are getting new users to buy a console and or winning back old users you are not going to make profit its that simple lol.

    not true look at this guy he just got this house of of cod youtube fame he was on foodstamps before the youtube money came in

  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't really see the problem. As long as their efforts to add extra functionality to the systems doesn't take away from the gaming, why do you care? I probably won't use 90% of the extra options they tie into the PS4, but I'm not going to complain that it's there. Who does that? Who gets mad because they are getting more more their money? lol
    scoop1215joshuaboyzombie
  • brown321brown321 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ocelot wrote: »
    Niggas kill me with this all I care about are the games but don't have a Vita.

    Vita don't have games tho.
    ocelotSupreme_GentlemanWild Self
  • Monizzle14Monizzle14 Posts: 10,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    scoop1215 wrote: »
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    You guys don't understand the future of big business.

    please elaborate because consoles aren't taking market share from i pad and i phone users who could care less about the next metal gear solid. buying a console for an virtual social world aint no casual gamer got time fo dat lmaooo. Call of duty moves consoles i aint never heard of anybody buying a ps3 for playstation home son lmaoo

    Everything is interactive, big time players use YouTube to get paid, they also use twitter and FaceBook to promote themselves and keep their fans in the loop.

    It's opening the door for more people to do the same. Recording your gameplays and uploading them is the hottest thing to do right now. People are trying to be the next breakout youtube sensation.

    Twitter and FaceBook have millions of users, celebrity endorsed too. The usage of being able to share through that is big.

    YOU may not want to, but what the companies see is bigger than your ideas. Sony has always been ahead of the competition. You'll see.

    youtube videos get paid cents based on every million views or so. The biggest viral videos are not some nigga on halo or uncharted doing some crazy shit so that argument is pointless. Shit it real out here for sony.

    TV's losing market share to samsung LG since the LED HD era
    walkman dead
    sony music group = lackluster sales

    sony is depending on the playstation brand to help the hurting in the company. and ask any market analyst the money in twitter/facebook/youtube views aint shit when it comes to a company that needs billions more in revenue.

    unless you are getting new users to buy a console and or winning back old users you are not going to make profit its that simple lol.

    not true look at this guy he just got this house of of cod youtube fame he was on foodstamps before the youtube money came in


    What did the console he has get from it? did they get higher sales totals did they get a few mill? Hes the exception and it didn't translate to the console getting more revenue.
  • Monizzle14Monizzle14 Posts: 10,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't really see the problem. As long as their efforts to add extra functionality to the systems doesn't take away from the gaming, why do you care? I probably won't use 90% of the extra options they tie into the PS4, but I'm not going to complain that it's there. Who does that? Who gets mad because they are getting more more their money? lol

    because the shit they are trying to do goes into the console cost (even if the console is sold at a loss) also it costs millions if not billions in pointless marketing. If the console and servers are so focused on trying to find out which games you want to download you don't think that going to effect the price i pay or the quality of the game?

  • VIBEVIBE Awww Yeeaah! Posts: 37,983 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • ocelotocelot Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭✭✭
    brown321 wrote: »
    ocelot wrote: »
    Niggas kill me with this all I care about are the games but don't have a Vita.

    Vita don't have games tho.
    Right.
  • joshuaboyjoshuaboy Posts: 10,833 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    You guys don't understand the future of big business.

    please elaborate because consoles aren't taking market share from i pad and i phone users who could care less about the next metal gear solid. buying a console for an virtual social world aint no casual gamer got time fo dat lmaooo. Call of duty moves consoles i aint never heard of anybody buying a ps3 for playstation home son lmaoo

    Everything is interactive, big time players use YouTube to get paid, they also use twitter and FaceBook to promote themselves and keep their fans in the loop.

    It's opening the door for more people to do the same. Recording your gameplays and uploading them is the hottest thing to do right now. People are trying to be the next breakout youtube sensation.

    Twitter and FaceBook have millions of users, celebrity endorsed too. The usage of being able to share through that is big.

    YOU may not want to, but what the companies see is bigger than your ideas. Sony has always been ahead of the competition. You'll see.

    youtube videos get paid cents based on every million views or so. The biggest viral videos are not some nigga on halo or uncharted doing some crazy shit so that argument is pointless. Shit it real out here for sony.

    TV's losing market share to samsung LG since the LED HD era
    walkman dead
    sony music group = lackluster sales

    sony is depending on the playstation brand to help the hurting in the company. and ask any market analyst the money in twitter/facebook/youtube views aint shit when it comes to a company that needs billions more in revenue.

    unless you are getting new users to buy a console and or winning back old users you are not going to make profit its that simple lol.




    Sony/MS/Nin/Apple etc. might not see a single dollar from youtube/fb/twitter, but they will see increased sales depending on which console the user finds easier to upload their data to the networks from
    scoop1215
  • scoop1215scoop1215 Posts: 301 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    well if he didnt have the console and a recording device he wont be posting cod video's and getting paid of them. i mean there's alot of big name yotubers outhere this guy i posted, fps russia who was in the black ops 2 commercial with hollywood stars and started off cod youtube fame but now he doing gun video's and gets paid off of that, wings, etc. granted alot of people dont make it that big to get a partnership with youtube but now with the new consoles both sony and microsoft are giving people a chance to try to get that big. i say mircosoft too because i know they are going to do that as well to compete with sony alot of xbox 360 players stream to twitch while sony with the ps4 is going to be on ustream.
  • Monizzle14Monizzle14 Posts: 10,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    joshuaboy wrote: »
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    You guys don't understand the future of big business.

    please elaborate because consoles aren't taking market share from i pad and i phone users who could care less about the next metal gear solid. buying a console for an virtual social world aint no casual gamer got time fo dat lmaooo. Call of duty moves consoles i aint never heard of anybody buying a ps3 for playstation home son lmaoo

    Everything is interactive, big time players use YouTube to get paid, they also use twitter and FaceBook to promote themselves and keep their fans in the loop.

    It's opening the door for more people to do the same. Recording your gameplays and uploading them is the hottest thing to do right now. People are trying to be the next breakout youtube sensation.

    Twitter and FaceBook have millions of users, celebrity endorsed too. The usage of being able to share through that is big.

    YOU may not want to, but what the companies see is bigger than your ideas. Sony has always been ahead of the competition. You'll see.

    youtube videos get paid cents based on every million views or so. The biggest viral videos are not some nigga on halo or uncharted doing some crazy shit so that argument is pointless. Shit it real out here for sony.

    TV's losing market share to samsung LG since the LED HD era
    walkman dead
    sony music group = lackluster sales

    sony is depending on the playstation brand to help the hurting in the company. and ask any market analyst the money in twitter/facebook/youtube views aint shit when it comes to a company that needs billions more in revenue.

    unless you are getting new users to buy a console and or winning back old users you are not going to make profit its that simple lol.




    Sony/MS/Nin/Apple etc. might not see a single dollar from youtube/fb/twitter, but they will see increased sales depending on which console the user finds easier to upload their data to the networks from

    How so? Its easier than ever to purchase a videogame instantly via download.....but if thats the case why are video game sales down. Why are more and more video game compaies facing bankruptcy. If you want the new (insert game here) you will go to the store and download it or physically buy it. Putting a game to download at the opening home screen isn't going to boost sales.

    Consumers who want a game will buy it weather its in their face or not
  • Monizzle14Monizzle14 Posts: 10,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    scoop1215 wrote: »
    well if he didnt have the console and a recording device he wont be posting cod video's and getting paid of them. i mean there's alot of big name yotubers outhere this guy i posted, fps russia who was in the black ops 2 commercial with hollywood stars and started off cod youtube fame but now he doing gun video's and gets paid off of that, wings, etc. granted alot of people dont make it that big to get a partnership with youtube but now with the new consoles both sony and microsoft are giving people a chance to try to get that big.

    again the average consumer doesn't buy more games cause of this guy and 95% of gamers aren't going to see the money this guy is seeing. That's my point.
  • VIBEVIBE Awww Yeeaah! Posts: 37,983 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    scoop1215 wrote: »
    well if he didnt have the console and a recording device he wont be posting cod video's and getting paid of them. i mean there's alot of big name yotubers outhere this guy i posted, fps russia who was in the black ops 2 commercial with hollywood stars and started off cod youtube fame but now he doing gun video's and gets paid off of that, wings, etc. granted alot of people dont make it that big to get a partnership with youtube but now with the new consoles both sony and microsoft are giving people a chance to try to get that big.

    again the average consumer doesn't buy more games cause of this guy and 95% of gamers aren't going to see the money this guy is seeing. That's my point.

    Wrong.

    Look at YouTube comments, there's thousands who look up to these YouTube players and say they're the reason they're buying the system and games, so not only are they banking off YouTube, they're promoting the companies and having people going out to buy their products.

    They're doing a review without doing a review.

  • scoop1215scoop1215 Posts: 301 ✭✭✭
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    scoop1215 wrote: »
    well if he didnt have the console and a recording device he wont be posting cod video's and getting paid of them. i mean there's alot of big name yotubers outhere this guy i posted, fps russia who was in the black ops 2 commercial with hollywood stars and started off cod youtube fame but now he doing gun video's and gets paid off of that, wings, etc. granted alot of people dont make it that big to get a partnership with youtube but now with the new consoles both sony and microsoft are giving people a chance to try to get that big.

    again the average consumer doesn't buy more games cause of this guy and 95% of gamers aren't going to see the money this guy is seeing. That's my point.

    true but then 95 percent of people think cod and halo are the only great games out once again because thats all the big youtubers play.
  • Monizzle14Monizzle14 Posts: 10,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VIBE wrote: »
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    scoop1215 wrote: »
    well if he didnt have the console and a recording device he wont be posting cod video's and getting paid of them. i mean there's alot of big name yotubers outhere this guy i posted, fps russia who was in the black ops 2 commercial with hollywood stars and started off cod youtube fame but now he doing gun video's and gets paid off of that, wings, etc. granted alot of people dont make it that big to get a partnership with youtube but now with the new consoles both sony and microsoft are giving people a chance to try to get that big.

    again the average consumer doesn't buy more games cause of this guy and 95% of gamers aren't going to see the money this guy is seeing. That's my point.

    Wrong.

    Look at YouTube comments, there's thousands who look up to these YouTube players and say they're the reason they're buying the system and games, so not only are they banking off YouTube, they're promoting the companies and having people going out to buy their products.

    They're doing a review without doing a review.

    The majority of people seek out opinions they already want which is why video game sales are down not up. Untill you can show me how overally video games sales are up their opinions on youtube just sway people who have already made up their mind for the most part.
  • brown321brown321 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ocelot wrote: »
    brown321 wrote: »
    ocelot wrote: »
    Niggas kill me with this all I care about are the games but don't have a Vita.

    Vita don't have games tho.
    Right.

    I know everyone's tastes' are different but that thing don't have shit to play. If I got one I would play nothing but the psone FF games & some of the E-shop games. Not worth the 2fif.
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