Why do people act like HBK drew money??

Paul Hate.Paul Hate. Posts: 4,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
He never drew money until DX.

People always seem to question Bret's drawing ability but everyone knows he was an overseas attraction.HBK ...is the one who always seems to get a pass especially on the internet.

The company was dying when he was champ..Bret was at least an okay draw and he was huge in Canada,the UK and Germany that kept the doors open when he was the top dog.But he didnt draw that well either.He was just slightly better than okay in the US.

Then they force fed us Deisel and HBK(obviously b/c of politics) and business just went ass up and didnt pick back up til bret came back and austin caught on fire.

HBK is the most overated motherfucker ever.I honestly think the WWF talent at the time was so horrible and his style at the time was fresh water but he didnt really draw a dime until DX.

I'm not saying he wasn't popular but he wasnt't gonna put asses in seats and make people ppv's and merchandise with a fucking giggalo gimmick in 96.

I honestly would have bypassed him and focused on HHH and Austin that year instead of that overated junkie.
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  • MC The RapperMC The Rapper Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭✭✭
    HBK's political antics didn't help either burying dudes behind the scenes
  • genocidecuttergenocidecutter Posts: 11,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • dalyricalbanditdalyricalbandit Co-Owner Of AllhipHop.com, Super Moderator, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 53,689 Regulator
    Bret the GOAT
    genocidecutterChi-Town BullyP swayze166
  • Peezy_JenkinsPeezy_Jenkins Artist/Producer #Hustlin #VegasLights Posts: 18,784 ✭✭✭✭✭
    bret and hbk being overrated and not drawing are some of the dumbest opinions ive ever seen in this subforum
    genocidecuttersouth4lifeCutler 26 INT's LOL!Sion
  • JokerKingJokerKing Вони виявили, Ваш номер STATION в рамках цієї спільноти! Watching Jimmy Fallon With Barbara GordonPosts: 27,483 Regulator
    I been tellin niggas hbk wasn't shit
    Peezy_JenkinsP swayze166
  • TRILLip BrooksTRILLip Brooks Lefty Gunz, Lord High Executioner Posts: 18,016 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    Outside of Hogan, Savage, Warrior, Rock, Austin and Cena, who did?
  • kj_da_midwest_mobstakj_da_midwest_mobsta Posts: 530 ✭✭✭
    your crazy he had the females and kids goin crazy like cena does now
  • CopperCopper The WickPosts: 38,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
    HBK wasnt really a money draw tbh....he had no outside appeal or attraction only people that liked him were white hardcore wrestling fans
    Peezy_Jenkinsblackgod813
  • lookdudelookdude Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TheIraq wrote: »

    lol at that black kid getting his hug in
    TheIraq
  • Anti_matterAnti_matter Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭✭
    Late 1994 til early 1996 was a dark time for WWF/E....

    1995 WWF alumni.

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  • iKingGodGivBiziKingGodGivBiz Batman With Prep Time Posts: 19,623 Regulator
    I think people see him as an amazing talent not amazing draw. Hogan, Flair, Austin, The Rock trascend the sport. Sting, Macho Man and Warrior were borderline trascending In fact, very few trascend the business.

    So basically I think overall in ring ability, charsima, on the mic, and as far as all around HBK will be a GOAT to alot of people n not necesarilly as someone who sold the most nerchandise. Lets not get the perception confused. We are all huge fans of his work as real wrestling fans n not for the business side of shit.
  • Paul Hate.Paul Hate. Posts: 4,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Outside of Hogan, Savage, Warrior, Rock, Austin and Cena, who did?

    ^sting,goldberg,jericho??

  • Paul Hate.Paul Hate. Posts: 4,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CopperKing wrote: »
    HBK wasnt really a money draw tbh....he had no outside appeal or attraction only people that liked him were white hardcore wrestling fans


    ^exactly.He was a product of the WWF hype machine.
  • Peezy_JenkinsPeezy_Jenkins Artist/Producer #Hustlin #VegasLights Posts: 18,784 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    niggas really disrespecting the goat hbk, when the entire industry was down, sid vicious and diesel certainly werent doin their thing, disgusting, hbk had to be at least a decent draw and one of the best in ring ever, matter fact, who judges their favorite wrestler on drawing ability?
    blackgod813
  • Paul Hate.Paul Hate. Posts: 4,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dont got time to bring up ppv orders,ticket sales at those same ppv's or shit like that.Just google.Bret was ok to slight above okay as a draw cuz of canada,the uk and germany love him like crazy.

    But HBK aint draw shit.Him and deisel almost put them out of business.
  • Paul Hate.Paul Hate. Posts: 4,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think Cena has somewhat transcended the business..in a minor way.He's a minor crossover celebrity for wrestling.

    He's the most popular wrestler in the last 10 years basically no one comes close.
  • dalyricalbanditdalyricalbandit Co-Owner Of AllhipHop.com, Super Moderator, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 53,689 Regulator
    Paul Hate. wrote: »
    Outside of Hogan, Savage, Warrior, Rock, Austin and Cena, who did?

    ^sting,goldberg,jericho??

    they was WCW
  • jonojono Right fist = power, left fist = unity Posts: 19,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paul Hate. wrote: »
    Outside of Hogan, Savage, Warrior, Rock, Austin and Cena, who did?

    ^sting,goldberg,jericho??

    Sting drew based on the power of the nWo. Without that lengthy feud he wasn't the man like that. In fact Sting was the face of WCW and got bumped by Hogan, returned and then got bumped again by Goldberg....


    Speaking of Goldberg he was indeed a big star for WCW. No doubt about it.


    Jericho was never a draw anywhere he performed, highly entertaining but nowhere near HBK as a PPV or live attraction. The fact you even brought him up is askew in my opinion.


    There are 5 big time draws in modern wrestling:
    Hogan, Savage, Flair (questionable), Austin & Rock everyone else is at best a moderate draw (HBK, Bret, Nash, Sting, Luger, Angle etc).
  • jonojono Right fist = power, left fist = unity Posts: 19,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
    *Cena is more recent and is the biggest draw of recent wrestlers. Jeff Hardy, Brock Lesnar & Randy Orton are also on that list.


    Jeff could have surpassed Cena in my opinion if he had decided to stay around.
    Peezy_JenkinsiKingGodGivBiz
  • Paul Hate.Paul Hate. Posts: 4,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The ROck and Austin have the biggest WM and PPv's of all time..let's not talk about Merchandise.Austin technically speaking made more dollars for the WWF than Hogan but obviously Hogan was in a different era less tv and ppv's and licsenced merchandise.

    Jericho sold merchandise than a motherfucker and he was involved in some very succesful PPv's.


  • Paul Hate.Paul Hate. Posts: 4,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff hardy passing Cena?Right.Okay.Cool.
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