ISP's monitoring your downloading..

aladdin1978aladdin1978 Posts: 2,449
edited February 2013 in The Social Lounge
I didn't want to post the full story cause its even longer than this, but the bottom line is starting today most ISP's including Verizon, At&T, Comcast and others will have this "six strike" rule in effect. Which could ultimately get your service suspended...



Downloading music/movies...six strikes" system designed to curb copyright infringement will go live in the United States, affecting customers on many of the nations' top internet service providers (ISPs). While avoiding the most draconian of punishments proposed in past plans -- severing offenders' internet connections -- the system will carry serious consequences including connection throttling and forced "education" from anti-piracy groups.

Under the plan, copyright watchdogs like the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) -- groups that have been internationally involved in convictions or settlements involving their own "theft" of independent artists' work --will join peer-to-peer networks or BitTorrent transfers and log internet protocol (IP) addresses of people who are downloading "confirmed infringed content".

The first warning carries no action, but later warnings carry ISP-specific "Mitigation actions". The (sort of) good news is that there is a path to appeal warnings. Writes the CCI:

There is a $35 filing fee, which may be waived if you meet affordability criteria. The fee will be refunded if your challenge is successful.

Still, the system is a concern for real estate owners and Wi-Fi cafe owners, in that their services could be limited due to their customers’ actions. In many cases, it would be near impossible for such entities to police their customers’ actions.

The simple solution for business people in that situation is to cancel their service with AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, or Time Warner and seek a local alternative.

Of course that approach could be difficult in some regions, and may become infeasible if more ISPs jump on the CCI bandwagon. For now, though, there are alternatives for many customers who want to avoid the system.
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  • cobblandcobbland Posts: 3,428
    Warning System Launched for Movie, Music Pirates

    By CHRISTOPHER S. STEWART And SHALINI RAMACHANDRAN

    Internet service providers have launched a more coordinated effort to deal with subscribers who illegally download movies, TV shows and music.

    AT&T Inc., T +0.85% Cablevision Systems Corp., CVC +1.80% Time Warner Cable Inc, TWC +0.58% Verizon Communications Inc. VZ +0.87% and Comcast Corp. CMCSA +0.71% have put into place an alerts system with "six strikes," with various degrees of penalty for subscribers accused of piracy.

    The Digital Millennium Copyright Act already requires ISPs to notify users of piracy complaints made by media companies. But the new system, dubbed the Copyright Alert System, brings the major ISPs under one uniform program and for the first time involves a progressively assertive series of six alerts, starting with a letter or email about the infraction and escalating to where it may slow down a user's Internet connection.

    "The goal is to change behavior and get people to pay attention," said Jill Lesser, executive director of the Center for Copyright Information, the group coordinating the effort.

    The program will be driven by intelligence gathered by the Recording Industry Association of America and the Motion Picture Association of America, the trade groups for the music and media companies.

    The Internet service providers will employ harsher rules for repeat offenders who, once warned, don't rein in their piracy appetites. But the ISPs are using different kinds of penalties. Time Warner Cable, for instance, said that after the first four notifications, it will lock down offenders' browser until they call a number and show that they understand what they have done and agree to stop.

    After six strikes, ISPs reserve the right to curtail use. "We reserve the right to terminate a user's account for serious abuse," a Time Warner Cable spokesman said.

    Verizon's FiOS says it plans to slow down the Internet speeds of repeat offenders on the sixth time they are notified. Comcast won't slow down Internet speeds but it will ask repeat offenders to watch an educational video.

    The Internet service providers say that at each stage, the customers will be able to appeal a claim.

    Ms. Lesser said that the program probably won't deter "large scale pirates," though she expected it to address the more "casual infringer."

    The ISPs agreed to the system in 2011, though it has taken more than a year for the companies to deploy the program.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323699704578326402159158748.html#articleTabs=article
  • FuriousOneFuriousOne Posts: 3,208
    edited February 2013
    VPN, Seedbox, Direct Download , Private Torrent Trackers... Shit's gonna get difficult from here on out.
  • What about the that shit that rips music from youtube? can they track that?
  • aladdin1978aladdin1978 Posts: 2,449
    What about the that shit that rips music from youtube? can they track that?

    Probably not but who knows. They're wanting to control everything!
  • FuriousOneFuriousOne Posts: 3,208
    What about the that shit that rips music from youtube? can they track that?

    They probably can track it but they normally attack the sites that offer the service. This is mainly about torrents and p2p programs.
  • nex ginnex gin Posts: 7,040
    Does this also include downloading of software or just music and movies?
  • aladdin1978aladdin1978 Posts: 2,449
    nex gin wrote: »
    Does this also include downloading of software or just music and movies?

    Everything. Software included.
  • aladdin1978aladdin1978 Posts: 2,449
    In the last few weeks I've noticed my download speed has slowed down...
  • Bcotton5Bcotton5 Posts: 37,227
    lol I noticed too I dont check my email so idk if they sent me any warnings

    What if you get more than 6 warnings and keep doing it after watching the educational video?
  • Swiffness!Swiffness! Posts: 6,727
    Bcotton5 wrote: »
    its only applying to torrents?

    Yes. Everything else? Filestube? All them download sites? Usenet? Etc? you good...for now

    they already had a system before. i already got warnings before. Then I changed a few utorrent settings, installed peerblock, and have heard shit for years since. Oh and Verizon just wiped the record of them at the end of the calender year. How bout that. You gotta understand these ISPs ain't stupid they know why ppl even wanted high speed internet in the first place. They just trying to throw the RIAA and MPAA a bone so they'll stop calling them drunk & crying at 3am when all 30 DVD screeners they sent out yesterday pop up on Pirate Bay.

    I ain't changing shit. Let's see how real they is bout dis. Wreck Em Ralph 1080p should be a good test. New Disney movies are always "hot".

    gus-fring-come-at-me.gif

    If I get a warning, BTGuard is $6 a month.

    What year ya'll think this is? Unless the gov't pull a Syria and just shut it all down, can't NOBODY stop the internet no more, b. Haven't you niggas heard about Tor and the Deep Web? You can use Tor to mail-order drugs over the internet. You can buy an assassin on Tor. Seriously. The FBI even said they can't track the pedos using it for child porn....and there's LOTS OF THOSE. Supposedly there's even dark nets where they said you need to give dudes like $20k in cash and video of yourself, face visible, murdering someone or raping a kid, so you can't go to the cops. lmao shit's crazy.
  • perspective@100perspective@100 Posts: 1,286
    edited March 2013
    Swiffness! wrote: »
    Bcotton5 wrote: »
    its only applying to torrents?

    Yes. Everything else? Filestube? All them download sites? Usenet? Etc? you good...for now

    they already had a system before. i already got warnings before. Then I changed a few utorrent settings, installed peerblock, and have heard shit for years since. Oh and Verizon just wiped the record of them at the end of the calender year. How bout that. You gotta understand these ISPs ain't stupid they know why ppl even wanted high speed internet in the first place. They just trying to throw the RIAA and MPAA a bone so they'll stop calling them drunk & crying at 3am when all 30 DVD screeners they sent out yesterday pop up on Pirate Bay.

    I ain't changing shit. Let's see how real they is bout dis. Wreck Em Ralph 1080p should be a good test. New Disney movies are always "hot".

    gus-fring-come-at-me.gif

    If I get a warning, BTGuard is $6 a month.

    What year ya'll think this is? Unless the gov't pull a Syria and just shut it all down, can't NOBODY stop the internet no more, b. Haven't you niggas heard about Tor and the Deep Web? You can use Tor to mail-order drugs over the internet. You can buy an assassin on Tor. Seriously. The FBI even said they can't track the pedos using it for child porn....and there's LOTS OF THOSE. Supposedly there's even dark nets where they said you need to give dudes like $20k in cash and video of yourself, face visible, murdering someone or raping a kid, so you can't go to the cops. lmao shit's crazy.


    Nope.... Fuck is Tor? Fuck is Deep Web? Explain you tech ass nigga...

  • FuriousOneFuriousOne Posts: 3,208
    edited March 2013
    Swiffness! wrote: »
    Bcotton5 wrote: »
    its only applying to torrents?

    Yes. Everything else? Filestube? All them download sites? Usenet? Etc? you good...for now

    they already had a system before. i already got warnings before. Then I changed a few utorrent settings, installed peerblock, and have heard shit for years since. Oh and Verizon just wiped the record of them at the end of the calender year. How bout that. You gotta understand these ISPs ain't stupid they know why ppl even wanted high speed internet in the first place. They just trying to throw the RIAA and MPAA a bone so they'll stop calling them drunk & crying at 3am when all 30 DVD screeners they sent out yesterday pop up on Pirate Bay.

    I ain't changing shit. Let's see how real they is bout dis. Wreck Em Ralph 1080p should be a good test. New Disney movies are always "hot".

    gus-fring-come-at-me.gif

    If I get a warning, BTGuard is $6 a month.

    What year ya'll think this is? Unless the gov't pull a Syria and just shut it all down, can't NOBODY stop the internet no more, b. Haven't you niggas heard about Tor and the Deep Web? You can use Tor to mail-order drugs over the internet. You can buy an assassin on Tor. Seriously. The FBI even said they can't track the pedos using it for child porn....and there's LOTS OF THOSE. Supposedly there's even dark nets where they said you need to give dudes like $20k in cash and video of yourself, face visible, murdering someone or raping a kid, so you can't go to the cops. lmao shit's crazy.


    Nope.... Fuck is Tor? Fuck is Deep Web? Explain you tech ass nigga...

    Tor is an encryption software that uses servers all over the world to to hide peoples location. It's slow so people don't use it for torrents but they do use it to access websites that can only be found using a tor onion address. It was originally used to protect news reporters and their snitches from overzealous governments.

    Nothing is impossible to trace because at some point, your IP was logged. Just like VPN, and especially proxies, the connection tends to drop exposing your IP. A good idea would be to use someones open wifi, or remote to a different computer and then jump on an open wifi from there. You can use something like logmein hamatchi to create a bridge to remote into a different computer in a different location. The point is to not be at a location of origin for the IP. I only recommend these tools if you plan on getting into the seedy side of things on the Darknet.

    https://www.torproject.org/
    http://theanonymousinternet.tumblr.com/toranonymity

    If you want torrents, i recommend using a seedbox. You can use a money order to purchase it if you don't want your credit card traced. You log into a seedbox from a website and download the torrents and then you use a ftp client to transfer the torrent onto your computer. Once again, an ftp logs your IP which connects to the ftp server\seedbox. You can use a SSH (sftp or ftps) with a firewall to encrypt the data that you transfer from the seedbox to the ftp. Using a seedbox also increases your share ratio because of the high speeds which opens the door to private trackers.

    The likelihood that these services will be targeted grows with less regular folks using conventional means of bootlegging online. This also means less people seeding on open torrents. 6 strikes may scare off the novices.
  • in these 17 steps you could literally browse without a trace.....the whole guide on how to do so is bout 5 pages worth of typing...pm me for a guide


    1. Obtaining Tor Browser
    2. Using and Testing Tor Browser for the first time
    3. Securing Your Hard Drive
    4. Setting up TrueCrypt, Encrypted Hidden Volumes
    5. Testing TrueCrypt Volumes
    6. Securing your Hard Disk
    7. Temporarily Securing Your Disk, Shredding Free Space
    8. Installing VirtualBox
    9. Installing a Firewall
    10. Firewall Configuration
    11. Installing Ubuntu
    12. Ubuntu Initial Setup
    13. Installing Guest Additions
    14. Installing IRC (Optional)
    15. Installing Torchat (Optional)
    16. Creating TOR-Only Internet Environment
    17. General Daily Usage
  • Swiffness! wrote: »
    Bcotton5 wrote: »
    its only applying to torrents?

    Yes. Everything else? Filestube? All them download sites? Usenet? Etc? you good...for now

    they already had a system before. i already got warnings before. Then I changed a few utorrent settings, installed peerblock, and have heard shit for years since. Oh and Verizon just wiped the record of them at the end of the calender year. How bout that. You gotta understand these ISPs ain't stupid they know why ppl even wanted high speed internet in the first place. They just trying to throw the RIAA and MPAA a bone so they'll stop calling them drunk & crying at 3am when all 30 DVD screeners they sent out yesterday pop up on Pirate Bay.

    I ain't changing shit. Let's see how real they is bout dis. Wreck Em Ralph 1080p should be a good test. New Disney movies are always "hot".

    gus-fring-come-at-me.gif

    If I get a warning, BTGuard is $6 a month.

    What year ya'll think this is? Unless the gov't pull a Syria and just shut it all down, can't NOBODY stop the internet no more, b. Haven't you niggas heard about Tor and the Deep Web? You can use Tor to mail-order drugs over the internet. You can buy an assassin on Tor. Seriously. The FBI even said they can't track the pedos using it for child porn....and there's LOTS OF THOSE. Supposedly there's even dark nets where they said you need to give dudes like $20k in cash and video of yourself, face visible, murdering someone or raping a kid, so you can't go to the cops. lmao shit's crazy.

    Tor really isn't that secure.

    If you run a Tor exit node, you can essentially monitor everything people passing through your node do as long as it's not encrypted.

    You gotta encrypt your tor traffic along with your hard drive to be safe safe.....or just get backtrack n hop on some dumbasses wep
  • aladdin1978aladdin1978 Posts: 2,449
    in these 17 steps you could literally browse without a trace.....the whole guide on how to do so is bout 5 pages worth of typing...pm me for a guide


    1. Obtaining Tor Browser
    2. Using and Testing Tor Browser for the first time
    3. Securing Your Hard Drive
    4. Setting up TrueCrypt, Encrypted Hidden Volumes
    5. Testing TrueCrypt Volumes
    6. Securing your Hard Disk
    7. Temporarily Securing Your Disk, Shredding Free Space
    8. Installing VirtualBox
    9. Installing a Firewall
    10. Firewall Configuration
    11. Installing Ubuntu
    12. Ubuntu Initial Setup
    13. Installing Guest Additions
    14. Installing IRC (Optional)
    15. Installing Torchat (Optional)
    16. Creating TOR-Only Internet Environment
    17. General Daily Usage

    Yea...you know a few things about *ahem* network security and Hac...I won't say that word, but I'm with you 100%...!! @renegade410.
  • FuriousOne wrote: »
    Swiffness! wrote: »
    Bcotton5 wrote: »
    its only applying to torrents?

    Yes. Everything else? Filestube? All them download sites? Usenet? Etc? you good...for now

    they already had a system before. i already got warnings before. Then I changed a few utorrent settings, installed peerblock, and have heard shit for years since. Oh and Verizon just wiped the record of them at the end of the calender year. How bout that. You gotta understand these ISPs ain't stupid they know why ppl even wanted high speed internet in the first place. They just trying to throw the RIAA and MPAA a bone so they'll stop calling them drunk & crying at 3am when all 30 DVD screeners they sent out yesterday pop up on Pirate Bay.

    I ain't changing shit. Let's see how real they is bout dis. Wreck Em Ralph 1080p should be a good test. New Disney movies are always "hot".

    gus-fring-come-at-me.gif

    If I get a warning, BTGuard is $6 a month.

    What year ya'll think this is? Unless the gov't pull a Syria and just shut it all down, can't NOBODY stop the internet no more, b. Haven't you niggas heard about Tor and the Deep Web? You can use Tor to mail-order drugs over the internet. You can buy an assassin on Tor. Seriously. The FBI even said they can't track the pedos using it for child porn....and there's LOTS OF THOSE. Supposedly there's even dark nets where they said you need to give dudes like $20k in cash and video of yourself, face visible, murdering someone or raping a kid, so you can't go to the cops. lmao shit's crazy.


    Nope.... Fuck is Tor? Fuck is Deep Web? Explain you tech ass nigga...

    Tor is an encryption software that uses servers all over the world to to hide peoples location. It's slow so people don't use it for torrents but they do use it to access websites that can only be found using a tor onion address. It was originally used to protect news reporters and their snitches from overzealous governments.

    Nothing is impossible to trace because at some point, your IP was logged. Just like VPN, and especially proxies, the connection tends to drop exposing your IP. A good idea would be to use someones open wifi, or remote to a different computer and then jump on an open wifi from there. You can use something like logmein hamatchi to create a bridge to remote into a different computer in a different location. The point is to not be at a location of origin for the IP. I only recommend these tools if you plan on getting into the seedy side of things on the Darknet.

    https://www.torproject.org/
    http://theanonymousinternet.tumblr.com/toranonymity

    If you want torrents, i recommend using a seedbox. You can use a money order to purchase it if you don't want your credit card traced. You log into a seedbox from a website and download the torrents and then you use a ftp client to transfer the torrent onto your computer. Once again, an ftp logs your IP which connects to the ftp server\seedbox. You can use a SSH (sftp or ftps) with a firewall to encrypt the data that you transfer from the seedbox to the ftp. Using a seedbox also increases your share ratio because of the high speeds which opens the door to private trackers.

    The likelihood that these services will be targeted grows with less regular folks using conventional means of bootlegging online. This also means less people seeding on open torrents. 6 strikes may scare off the novices.

    Was a rhetorical, but damn you niggas went all Neo and shit... Average nigga aint doing none of the shit yall describing. I'ma try, but as soon as I get knocked I'm snitching and bringing them boys straight to this thread, hahahahah, j/k...

  • FuriousOneFuriousOne Posts: 3,208
    edited March 2013

    Was a rhetorical, but damn you niggas went all Neo and shit... Average nigga aint doing none of the shit yall describing. I'ma try, but as soon as I get knocked I'm snitching and bringing them boys straight to this thread, hahahahah, j/k...

    Lol, the stuff that @renagade410 provided is def difficult in that there are lots of steps, but it can be used for benefits other than bootlegging. A seedbox or direct download would at least protect you from being exposed by your ISP which is the more direct concern. The ISP's aren't going through the motions to find owners of a seedbox unless you out here uploading a thousand movies. VPN is too sketchy. It's only good to obtain direct download accounts that are blocked in the states and a proxy can't even do that.. They even trying to make it hard to obtain this things by blocking paypal and credit payments.
  • EasyAceEasyAce Posts: 13,022


    this video mad suspect, dude know how to surf the web undetected but cant type worth a fuck...lol..the government on to yall niggaz
  • in these 17 steps you could literally browse without a trace.....the whole guide on how to do so is bout 5 pages worth of typing...pm me for a guide


    1. Obtaining Tor Browser
    2. Using and Testing Tor Browser for the first time
    3. Securing Your Hard Drive
    4. Setting up TrueCrypt, Encrypted Hidden Volumes
    5. Testing TrueCrypt Volumes
    6. Securing your Hard Disk
    7. Temporarily Securing Your Disk, Shredding Free Space
    8. Installing VirtualBox
    9. Installing a Firewall
    10. Firewall Configuration
    11. Installing Ubuntu
    12. Ubuntu Initial Setup
    13. Installing Guest Additions
    14. Installing IRC (Optional)
    15. Installing Torchat (Optional)
    16. Creating TOR-Only Internet Environment
    17. General Daily Usage

    Yea...you know a few things about *ahem* network security and Hac...I won't say that word, but I'm with you 100%...!! @renegade410.

    lol computer science major looking to get my ceh(certified ethical hacker) but until then im a grey hat hacker for the time being. Had to step my security game up after the fuckin fbi raided my crib last year cuz of sprint bitch ass. Exploited sprints 4g and had the whole hood on a single connection and someone went HAM and that shit fell on me. Signal did 120tb in a month...yes you read that right. A nigga aint got nunin to hide just take pride in the fact that if i did the feds couldnt find SHAT on my system
  • MikeydaGawdMikeydaGawd Posts: 18,782
    in these 17 steps you could literally browse without a trace.....the whole guide on how to do so is bout 5 pages worth of typing...pm me for a guide


    1. Obtaining Tor Browser
    2. Using and Testing Tor Browser for the first time
    3. Securing Your Hard Drive
    4. Setting up TrueCrypt, Encrypted Hidden Volumes
    5. Testing TrueCrypt Volumes
    6. Securing your Hard Disk
    7. Temporarily Securing Your Disk, Shredding Free Space
    8. Installing VirtualBox
    9. Installing a Firewall
    10. Firewall Configuration
    11. Installing Ubuntu
    12. Ubuntu Initial Setup
    13. Installing Guest Additions
    14. Installing IRC (Optional)
    15. Installing Torchat (Optional)
    16. Creating TOR-Only Internet Environment
    17. General Daily Usage

    Yea...you know a few things about *ahem* network security and Hac...I won't say that word, but I'm with you 100%...!! @renegade410.

    lol computer science major looking to get my ceh(certified ethical hacker) but until then im a grey hat hacker for the time being. Had to step my security game up after the fuckin fbi raided my crib last year cuz of sprint bitch ass. Exploited sprints 4g and had the whole hood on a single connection and someone went HAM and that shit fell on me. Signal did 120tb in a month...yes you read that right. A nigga aint got nunin to hide just take pride in the fact that if i did the feds couldnt find SHAT on my system

    I'm thinking about majoring in computer science
  • MikeydaGawdMikeydaGawd Posts: 18,782
    so torrents a no go.. so how about websites like sharebeast, etc
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