The roots 'Black Thought' says he Top5 dead or alive, can any of y'all strongly dispute that?

internationalinternational Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 2013 in The Reason
How y'all feel about that statement? Better yet, where would y'all place him?

Speak on it!

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  • Stomp JohnsonStomp Johnson Illusions of oasis makin you look twice. Posts: 1,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He's in my top five (see avi). And since my top five is the only top five that matters to ME....fuck everybody else's...yes I agree.

    He been killin ablums/mics consistenly for years, I say he's earned the right to be a little arrogant.
    buttuh_bcobblanda.mannamenhotepiv
  • Stomp JohnsonStomp Johnson Illusions of oasis makin you look twice. Posts: 1,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Im aware of "ablums". Fucka edit tho.
  • unspoken_respectunspoken_respect I smell tittys Posts: 8,981 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll have to think about this. I can say with confidence I'd place him in my to 5 albums wise but lyrically I'd have to think about his placement more.
  • NothingButTheTruthNothingButTheTruth Posts: 9,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He's top 5 easy. He has Albums, Lyrics, Longevity etc.

    Where's the clip or interview?
    MuhannadYo_Killa!
  • rip.dillarip.dilla Posts: 14,788 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Still goes hard in da paint, he has a strong argument for that Top 5 Spot


    Over 2 decades though
    (Nope)
  • usmarin3usmarin3 Posts: 35,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My top 10 for certain is these dudes, where they rank varies by how i'm feeling

    Jay
    Pac
    Nas
    Face
    Cube
    Biggie
    Rakim
    KRS
    LL
    Kane
    amenhotepiv
  • internationalinternational Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He's top 5 easy. He has Albums, Lyrics, Longevity etc.

    Where's the clip or interview?



    Can't embed on the iPad...:unno
  • internationalinternational Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rip.dilla wrote: »
    What does "shifting a culture" mean?


    And if your talking "culture", Black has kept it 100% by rapping all over live production/instrumentals with every type of musical genre since he started . .

    That is true! And he did specify 'mc'...
  • usmarin3usmarin3 Posts: 35,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rip.dilla wrote: »
    What does "shifting a culture" mean?


    And if your talking "culture", Black has kept it 100% by rapping all over live production/instrumentals with every type of musical genre since he started . .

    When i say shifting culture i mean brought hiphop to places it's never been (mainstream, other countries, other cultures, other genres). You go to countries in Africa, Europe, Caribbean,etc they know who Pac is and know his movement. People like Black Thought have never shifted culture like that to me.

    It's like saying Lil Brother has had the same impact as Run Dmc.
  • rip.dillarip.dilla Posts: 14,788 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ok. You're speaking on 'impact' of an MC/rapper


    I think Black in this case is basing his assumption on lyrical skill-set . .
    buttuh_b
  • usmarin3usmarin3 Posts: 35,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rip.dilla wrote: »
    Ok. You're speaking on 'impact' of an MC/rapper


    I think Black in this case is basing his assumption on lyrical skill-set . .


    I would need to see the context of the statement. To me lyrics alone doesn't make you a top 5 rapper, if that was the case people like Canibus, Chino XL,etc would be ranked high.
    RawAcebuttuh_bgman82
  • Lou_CypherLou_Cypher One Cold Ass Honkey It's Cold, AlaskaPosts: 27,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
    With my top 5 constantly changing based on my mood, i cant say he's always in it. But a rapper like black thought, if anyone says he's in theirs I cant be mad at that and i will have to give him a thumbs up for decision making.
    rip.dillaRawAceLonedogAchilles
  • internationalinternational Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2013
    He's top 5 easy. He has Albums, Lyrics, Longevity etc.

    Where's the clip or interview?



    Can't embed on the iPad...:unno

    click share video
    chose the email option
    copy the link
    past it



    you're welcome

    You can't do that on the ipad, but Props nonetheless...
  • AggyAFAggyAF Ami stima hopi sankanan in yah gyal's pumpumPosts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good rapper, but Cube, Nas, Jay, Pac, LL, Common, Biggie are better
    NothingButTheTruth
  • GhostdenithegawdGhostdenithegawd Posts: 7,019 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Naaaaaaaaaaaaa
  • CirocObamaCirocObama Posts: 3,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    rip.dilla wrote: »
    What does "shifting a culture" mean?


    And if your talking "culture", Black has kept it 100% by rapping all over live production/instrumentals with every type of musical genre since he started . .

    When i say shifting culture i mean brought hiphop to places it's never been (mainstream, other countries, other cultures, other genres). You go to countries in Africa, Europe, Caribbean,etc they know who Pac is and know his movement. People like Black Thought have never shifted culture like that to me.

    It's like saying Lil Brother has had the same impact as Run Dmc.

    Just to play devil's advocate, Biggie and 2pac only "shifted the culture" when they died. They were just regular popular rappers prior to that. Snoop shifted the culture as much if not more than them and you wouldn't put him in your top 5 would you? When 2pac alive he did not have people in Africa root for him, trust me i'm from Africa too. All that is something that came with the media's sensationalizing their deaths and them becoming martyrs or "dead heroes" like they always do.

    I don't think i'd put Black Thought in a top 5, but if we're discussing pure skills and catalogue (with the Roots) he might be a contender.
    rip.dilla
  • usmarin3usmarin3 Posts: 35,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shifting the Culture??? Nigga do you mean "Commercial"?

    No, KRS, Rakim,etc aren't commercial rappers but they've clearly shifted culture. Try again!
    NoCanadiansEH?
  • achewon87achewon87 Midnight Marauder SDF-1Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He could make that claim, he is not in my top 5, maybe top 15.

    He is consistent I will give him that, and his subject matter is vast.

    My argument against is; heads don't say, "Did you hear that new Roots album? Black Thought ripped it"

    Maybe slept on and underrated but I would not put him in my top 5.
    NoCanadiansEH?Solitary SoldierMister B.
  • ohhhlaohhhla Posts: 10,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Marine, look at what you did.
    usmarin3
  • NoCanadiansEH?NoCanadiansEH? Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    achewon87 wrote: »

    He is consistent I will give him that, and his subject matter is vast.
    My argument against is; heads don't say, "Did you hear that new Roots album? Black Thought ripped it"
    Maybe slept on and underrated but I would not put him in my top 5.

    /thread
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