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The Wire (Revisted)

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  • 313 wayz313 wayz Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stringer always thought he was smarter than everybody else, thats why I wasn't even mad when Clay Davis snaked String out of his money. He didn't want Avon to go to war with Marlo but he wanted to kill a political figure (Clay Davis) and bring all types of heat to they organization.
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  • D. MorganD. Morgan Not even on social media BUT.... I'M SWAGGIN SO HARD I FUCKED THE GRAM UPPosts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    freshb651 wrote: »

    we've gone over this a bunch of times,Avon didn't have a choice,Mouzone was gonna cut off his NY supply not just

    for dope but for muscle too,Avon clearly says how can we fix it and asks "how much",he was willing to pay for

    String's fuck up but Mouzone didn't want paper he wanted get back for being set-up. Annnnd at the time Avon was

    at war with Marlo,so he would have had to deal with Marlo and Mouzone's people.

    All you're doing is providing a justification. I'm sure Avon had a reason for betraying Stringer, that doesn't mean it wasn't a bad betrayal. Your girl might fuck another dude. She's got reasons (e.g., he has more money, better sex, etc...) that might have made it seem like a worthwhile move for her to make. That doesn't mean you're going to feel any less betrayed when it happens. Again, Stringer was the worse person/friend, but Avon's betrayal was worse because it had the more dire consequences.
    D. Morgan wrote: »

    Its a discussion because people like you are answering this question from a 9-5 John Q citizen point of view.

    Avon and Stringer are street niggas so they deal with shit from that point of view. From a street point of view snitching on your man or anybody period is the worst fucking thing you can do. End of story.

    A person who truly goes and lives by street codes knows that if you and your man are not seeing eye to eye. You either go your separate ways, work the shit out or start beefing and trying to kill one another. Whats never an option is snitching.

    That line of thinking you on is just another reason the streets is so fucked up the way they are now. Too many niggas have actually accepted that there are reasons and justifications for snitching where there isn't.

    Oh my bad King Gangsta, don't let me question your street authority. FOH lol

    "Real Street Niggas" snitch every day B. There has never been a period in criminal history in the world where criminals weren't telling on each other to improve their own interests. Half the mob bosses, gangsters, street niggas, etc... that people out there idolize snitched at some point. So stop it with that bullshit. Avon didn't go up to Stringer and tell him they were enemies and that it was on. He kicked it with him one last night and then set him up to be killed. The streets are fucked because niggas are stupid. The fact that you would come on here and try to act like there is any line of reasoning where snitching to the police is somehow worse than setting your man up to be killed proves it. Again, both are fucked up, but only one allows your man to come back from it. Avon was doing just fine in prison even at the end of the series. We saw that. What was String looking like by the end of the series?

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    But he was the worse of the two huh? Ok.

    Pull your skirt down sweeheart.

    The fact that you think a snitch is a "REAL" anything says everything I need to know.

    Didn't even bother to waste my time reading the rest of the bullshit you posted after the bold.
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  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Posts: 25,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    D. Morgan wrote: »
    freshb651 wrote: »

    we've gone over this a bunch of times,Avon didn't have a choice,Mouzone was gonna cut off his NY supply not just

    for dope but for muscle too,Avon clearly says how can we fix it and asks "how much",he was willing to pay for

    String's fuck up but Mouzone didn't want paper he wanted get back for being set-up. Annnnd at the time Avon was

    at war with Marlo,so he would have had to deal with Marlo and Mouzone's people.

    All you're doing is providing a justification. I'm sure Avon had a reason for betraying Stringer, that doesn't mean it wasn't a bad betrayal. Your girl might fuck another dude. She's got reasons (e.g., he has more money, better sex, etc...) that might have made it seem like a worthwhile move for her to make. That doesn't mean you're going to feel any less betrayed when it happens. Again, Stringer was the worse person/friend, but Avon's betrayal was worse because it had the more dire consequences.
    D. Morgan wrote: »

    Its a discussion because people like you are answering this question from a 9-5 John Q citizen point of view.

    Avon and Stringer are street niggas so they deal with shit from that point of view. From a street point of view snitching on your man or anybody period is the worst fucking thing you can do. End of story.

    A person who truly goes and lives by street codes knows that if you and your man are not seeing eye to eye. You either go your separate ways, work the shit out or start beefing and trying to kill one another. Whats never an option is snitching.

    That line of thinking you on is just another reason the streets is so fucked up the way they are now. Too many niggas have actually accepted that there are reasons and justifications for snitching where there isn't.

    Oh my bad King Gangsta, don't let me question your street authority. FOH lol

    "Real Street Niggas" snitch every day B. There has never been a period in criminal history in the world where criminals weren't telling on each other to improve their own interests. Half the mob bosses, gangsters, street niggas, etc... that people out there idolize snitched at some point. So stop it with that bullshit. Avon didn't go up to Stringer and tell him they were enemies and that it was on. He kicked it with him one last night and then set him up to be killed. The streets are fucked because niggas are stupid. The fact that you would come on here and try to act like there is any line of reasoning where snitching to the police is somehow worse than setting your man up to be killed proves it. Again, both are fucked up, but only one allows your man to come back from it. Avon was doing just fine in prison even at the end of the series. We saw that. What was String looking like by the end of the series?

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    But he was the worse of the two huh? Ok.

    Pull your skirt down sweeheart.

    The fact that you think a snitch is a "REAL" anything says everything I need to know.

    Didn't even bother to waste my time reading the rest of the bullshit you posted after the bold.
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    lol WTF? Nigga, did you not see the quotation marks in what you bolded? Nevermind, you just exposed yourself so there is no point trying to have a reasonable discussion with you.
    Niggas think that they own things and man sits high upon thrones
    But when you die, tell me what the fuck you own.
    When your skin, flesh, and bones find a permanent home
    as food for worms or fossils trapped in stone. - Rza in "What's Going On?"

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  • MD_PROPER MD_PROPER Way too many Tommy's not enough Ghosts.. Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    Some of you have a limited understand of Avon and Stringer...

    Avon by all accounts was a bonafide "street nigga". He lived by rules of the game....point blank period.

    On the other hand, Stringer Bell was more complex. As Stringer's story unfolded, it was shown that Stringer was not a "street nigga", but a business man whose business was in the streets. There is a huge difference between the two. Stringer's m.o. was maximizimg profits,while minimizing his loses so he could go legit. Stringer was never the killa type, but as a business man he put things in place to make shit happen whenever his progres was threatened. IMO, Avon knew that Stringer was never a street nigga, but kept him around because he was smart. Avon played himself because when he got knocked he left Stringer in the position to call all the shots..so for Avon to turn his back on his brother for a connect was some hoe shit...

    I'm gonna leave you with Avon and Stinger's version of Nino and G Money...he could have killed Stringer himself and made a bigger statement to the connect that he's all in,but he lined his guy up because he knew it was wrong despite the shit Stringer had done

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  • Elzo69RenaissanceElzo69Renaissance Never selling dreams, always serving cream SeattlePosts: 50,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was never about a connect
    As I look back over a misspent life, I find myself more and more convinced that I had more fun posting on the IC than in any other enterprise. It is really the life of kings.

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  • MD_PROPER MD_PROPER Way too many Tommy's not enough Ghosts.. Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was never about a connect

    It wsnt the whole reason but it was definitely a part of Avon's decision to let them hit Stringer

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  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Posts: 25,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some of you have a limited understand of Avon and Stringer...

    Avon by all accounts was a bonafide "street nigga". He livedd by rules of the game....point blank period.

    On the other hand, Stringer Bell was more complex. As Stringer's story unfolded, it was shown that Stringer was not a "street nigga", but a business man whose business was in the streets. There is a huge difference between the two. Stringer's m.o. was maximizimg profits,while minimizing his loses so he could go legit. Stringer was never the killa type, but as a business man he put things in place to make shit happen whenever his progres was threatened. IMO, Avon knew that Stringer was never a street nigga, but kept him around because he was smart. Avon played himself because when he got knocked he left Stringer in the position to call all the shota..so for Avon to turn his back on his brother for a connect was some hoe shit...

    I'm gonna leave you with Avon and Stinger's version of Nino and G Money...he could have killed Stringer himself and made a bigger statement to the connect that he's all in,but he lined his guy up because he knew it was wrong despite the shit Stringer had done

    I don't think Avon knew Stringer's true colors before he got knocked. I mean he probably suspected Stringer wasn't the same as him, but Stringer probably truly didn't become who he was until he got the power.
    Niggas think that they own things and man sits high upon thrones
    But when you die, tell me what the fuck you own.
    When your skin, flesh, and bones find a permanent home
    as food for worms or fossils trapped in stone. - Rza in "What's Going On?"

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  • MD_PROPER MD_PROPER Way too many Tommy's not enough Ghosts.. Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some of you have a limited understand of Avon and Stringer...

    Avon by all accounts was a bonafide "street nigga". He livedd by rules of the game....point blank period.

    On the other hand, Stringer Bell was more complex. As Stringer's story unfolded, it was shown that Stringer was not a "street nigga", but a business man whose business was in the streets. There is a huge difference between the two. Stringer's m.o. was maximizimg profits,while minimizing his loses so he could go legit. Stringer was never the killa type, but as a business man he put things in place to make shit happen whenever his progres was threatened. IMO, Avon knew that Stringer was never a street nigga, but kept him around because he was smart. Avon played himself because when he got knocked he left Stringer in the position to call all the shota..so for Avon to turn his back on his brother for a connect was some hoe shit...

    I'm gonna leave you with Avon and Stinger's version of Nino and G Money...he could have killed Stringer himself and made a bigger statement to the connect that he's all in,but he lined his guy up because he knew it was wrong despite the shit Stringer had done

    I don't think Avon knew Stringer's true colors before he got knocked. I mean he probably suspected Stringer wasn't the same as him, but Stringer probably truly didn't become who he was until he got the power.

    I agree with that....you can see this becoming clear to Avon once he got home


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  • Elzo69RenaissanceElzo69Renaissance Never selling dreams, always serving cream SeattlePosts: 50,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was never about a connect

    It wsnt the whole reason but it was definitely a part of Avon's decision to let them hit Stringer

    Naw man if anything they had already moved on to Prop Joe s package....plus a nigga like Avon can always find a new connect
    As I look back over a misspent life, I find myself more and more convinced that I had more fun posting on the IC than in any other enterprise. It is really the life of kings.

    MD_PROPER
  • MD_PROPER MD_PROPER Way too many Tommy's not enough Ghosts.. Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    It was never about a connect

    It wsnt the whole reason but it was definitely a part of Avon's decision to let them hit Stringer

    Naw man if anything they had already moved on to Prop Joe s package....plus a nigga like Avon can always find a new connect

    You right about them moving on, but Muzone basically told Avon he would be cut off in New York...this meant anything his business needed including drugs...Everybody know Avon wanted the crown alone, so that Prop Joe co-op wouldnt have lasted long had Avon been out longer....he never wanted them in is towers to begin with...

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  • R.D.R.D. Posts: 20,069 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Avon was loyal to the game/an honorable nigga

    String knew the game was bullshit and ain't give a fuck about honor in that shit

    "It's games beyond the games"

    String was a better version of Ghost. String could be a slimy nigga..favorite character though...respect his ambition, ruthlessness at times

    DeAngelo was probably good when they finally pulled the trigger on him...seemed like he was finally willing to be a man about it, just too late.
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  • Vader_F_KennedyVader_F_Kennedy Behind MissKPosts: 17,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    I would have liked to see a back story about how Avon and stringer came to power
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  • Elzo69RenaissanceElzo69Renaissance Never selling dreams, always serving cream SeattlePosts: 50,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was never about a connect

    It wsnt the whole reason but it was definitely a part of Avon's decision to let them hit Stringer

    Naw man if anything they had already moved on to Prop Joe s package....plus a nigga like Avon can always find a new connect

    You right about them moving on, but Muzone basically told Avon he would be cut off in New York...this meant anything his business needed including drugs...Everybody know Avon wanted the crown alone, so that Prop Joe co-op wouldnt have lasted long had Avon been out longer....he never wanted them in is towers to begin with...

    Now u getting it....it wasn't bout no drugs or nothing...Muzone was telling Avon if he didn't fix this shit, his name/reputation d be dead in the streets.....it's a parralel to Marlo s my name is my name scene
    As I look back over a misspent life, I find myself more and more convinced that I had more fun posting on the IC than in any other enterprise. It is really the life of kings.

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  • 2stepz_ahead2stepz_ahead Who I am is Complex, What i am, simply put. I'm a Threat walking out the lions denPosts: 31,557 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some of you have a limited understand of Avon and Stringer...

    Avon by all accounts was a bonafide "street nigga". He lived by rules of the game....point blank period.

    On the other hand, Stringer Bell was more complex. As Stringer's story unfolded, it was shown that Stringer was not a "street nigga", but a business man whose business was in the streets. There is a huge difference between the two. Stringer's m.o. was maximizimg profits,while minimizing his loses so he could go legit. Stringer was never the killa type, but as a business man he put things in place to make shit happen whenever his progres was threatened. IMO, Avon knew that Stringer was never a street nigga, but kept him around because he was smart. Avon played himself because when he got knocked he left Stringer in the position to call all the shots..so for Avon to turn his back on his brother for a connect was some hoe shit...

    I'm gonna leave you with Avon and Stinger's version of Nino and G Money...he could have killed Stringer himself and made a bigger statement to the connect that he's all in,but he lined his guy up because he knew it was wrong despite the shit Stringer had done

    nah bruh...

    stringer was a street business dude....not a man regular business dude..

    thats the difference

    its like a street level drug dealer and a pharma sales rep ...they are both the same but one knows who he is and the other thinks he does. string was a street level drug dealer thinking he was trapped an should be a pharma sales rep
    you have the dude who is naturally thorough -Alpha
    you have the dude that wants to be thorough so he pretend to be Alpha -Beta
    then you have the nigga who wants to hang with the first two to be seen and grab any dropped crumbs.- Omega

    I am still struggling between blocks to get from the have nots to the have yachts and I won't be stopped.



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  • AP21AP21 Posts: 17,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Will Munny wrote: »
    Rawls,was a DL fag got he was,that gay bar but they never expanded on it

    I didn't get that either, I think they did that tho just to show he's a cowardly person.

    nah...they did it to point out the obvious contradiction and overcompensating he had been doing the entire series with making homophobic slurs and references when he would talk to McNulty

    come to find out, he is the one who likes men all along

    but he has to gay bash to take attention/suspicion away from himself.
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  • nickel-us Pnickel-us P Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just noticed mcnulty's the traitor in 300. Ain't he tried to rape that bitch? Lol
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  • 9TRAY9TRAY EverywherePosts: 6,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 9
    "Let's walk
    What's the rule?"

    "I know the rule"

    "Say it"

    "Don't talk in the car
    Or on the phone, or in any place that ain't ours
    and don't say shit to anybody who ain't us
    But it was just you, yo
    It's your fuckin' truck
    Don't talk in the car



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  • AP21AP21 Posts: 17,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    on my 4th viewing of this show

    just finished second season

    i said this on another site, but if you view season 2 as the glue to the series instead of looking at it from the lack of the barksdale angle, this season is a pretty damn good one
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  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Posts: 25,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AP21 wrote: »
    on my 4th viewing of this show

    just finished second season

    i said this on another site, but if you view season 2 as the glue to the series instead of looking at it from the lack of the barksdale angle, this season is a pretty damn good one

    It's Immobilarity angle. When the first one was an instant classic and you depart from the formula of the first one, people aren't even going to give it a chance at first. It'll take a while before anyone gives it a fair chance.
    Niggas think that they own things and man sits high upon thrones
    But when you die, tell me what the fuck you own.
    When your skin, flesh, and bones find a permanent home
    as food for worms or fossils trapped in stone. - Rza in "What's Going On?"

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    AP21
  • BetaBeta #FastFamily Posts: 64,741 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I appreciated season 2 because of what it did to influence season 3 and 4
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  • BIGG WILLBIGG WILL Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AP21 wrote: »
    on my 4th viewing of this show

    just finished second season

    i said this on another site, but if you view season 2 as the glue to the series instead of looking at it from the lack of the barksdale angle, this season is a pretty damn good one

    I be trying to tell folks this all the time.
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  • mryounggunmryounggun Loading up my Grey Matter Glock Posts: 13,400 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BIGG WILL wrote: »
    AP21 wrote: »
    on my 4th viewing of this show

    just finished second season

    i said this on another site, but if you view season 2 as the glue to the series instead of looking at it from the lack of the barksdale angle, this season is a pretty damn good one

    I be trying to tell folks this all the time.

    Word. Season 2 is legit the most important season of the show. If you want to consider it 'boring' because there wasn't a bunch of street niggas trying to kill each other episode...I guess. Shit was pretty interesting to me.
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  • Elzo69RenaissanceElzo69Renaissance Never selling dreams, always serving cream SeattlePosts: 50,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beta wrote: »
    I appreciated season 2 because of what it did to influence season 3 and 4

    facts season 2 is so dope to me
    As I look back over a misspent life, I find myself more and more convinced that I had more fun posting on the IC than in any other enterprise. It is really the life of kings.

    Revolver OcelotAP21
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