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DC: Rebirth

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  • BroddieBroddie just me and my bitch NYCPosts: 10,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Broddie wrote: »
    Kyle has always been a Gary Stu. His whole existence depends on that trope and it could get outrageous at times.

    LOL get outta here man

    Kyle for a huge porton of his history was defined as the rookie/everyman Lantern. The "Kyle ALWAYS has a power upgrade" aspect of his character was only added because DC Editorial knew that when Hal Jordan (the true gary stu) was resurrected as lead of the franchise, sidelining/minimilizing Kyle was going to cause a huge backlash.

    So they just keep opting to make him "The Sixth Ranger" because he really has no true place with Hal, John, and Guy as active lanterns again.

    Yeah sure.

    "The last of the Green Lanterns", "the one and only Green Lantern", "willpower so strong his darkest desires could manifest as it's own independent entity", "the only human capable of becoming Ion"....
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  • BroddieBroddie just me and my bitch NYCPosts: 10,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2014
    Still hate Nu52 btw.

    Like what the fuck is the point of Futures End? A bunch of one shots and a weekly series about possible futures that we KNOW won't come to pass? Shit given that almost none of the main books are paying attention to Futures End, it feels like a complete exercise in futility.

    When has any possible dystopian future in the almost 80 year history of comic books really come to pass? I'll wait....

    The point of Future's End is to tell good stories with the DCU without having to be restricted by the limits of current continuity. It's the exact same reason Batman Eternal exists as well.

    Because of that freedom it also allows it's writers to come up with some new ideas and concepts which if successful (which it has greatly been) could see themselves end up in the regular continuity (which a lot of them will be). Furthermore the book has ties to the mainline books anyway. Like the end of the last Superman arc (Doomed) leading directly into what's happening in FE right now or like in the case of The Flash or Booster Gold the one shots were used to add another chapter to any ongoing story in certain existing or upcoming books.

    A lot of the ramifications of the story will also bleed into the event book narratives DC will explore in 2015. Like there being a Brainiac Prime who graduated to exploring the bleed and collecting multiversal cities instead of just cities from planets in one dimensional space. That's going to be a crucial part of their spring 2015 event which will actually appeal to a lot of the older DC fans.


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  • BroddieBroddie just me and my bitch NYCPosts: 10,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2014
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    Convergence will be a nine-week miniseries kicking off April 1st, and will spill into 40 two-part miniseries in April and May featuring a variety of writers and artists examining the worlds of the DC Universe over the decades, as well as the heroes and villains contained within.

    The story is described as a "meta epic" by co-publisher Dan DiDio, and involves Brainiac bringing together the populations of all of the multiverse cities he's trapped over the years in an experiment to see what would happen if they were to meet each other.

    Out of this, a new supervillian named Telos (Greek philosophical term for "end" or "goal") will be introduced. The series is to be penned by TV producer/writer Jeff King, who'll make his comic book debut.

    SOURCE: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2014/11/03/dc-comics-convergence-exclusive/18249201/
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  • MasterfultechMasterfultech Posts: 662 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Broddie wrote: »
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    Convergence will be a nine-week miniseries kicking off April 1st, and will spill into 40 two-part miniseries in April and May featuring a variety of writers and artists examining the worlds of the DC Universe over the decades, as well as the heroes and villains contained within.

    The story is described as a "meta epic" by co-publisher Dan DiDio, and involves Brainiac bringing together the populations of all of the multiverse cities he's trapped over the years in an experiment to see what would happen if they were to meet each other.

    Out of this, a new supervillian named Telos (Greek philosophical term for "end" or "goal") will be introduced. The series is to be penned by TV producer/writer Jeff King, who'll make his comic book debut.

    SOURCE: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2014/11/03/dc-comics-convergence-exclusive/18249201/

    Sounds interesting though it seems nu52 brianiac is quickly approaching the god hood his older incarnations had.
    Actions have reactions, don't be quick to judge
    You may not know the hardships people don't speak of
    It's best to step back, and observe with couth
    For we all must meet our moment of truth
    -Guru
  • BroddieBroddie just me and my bitch NYCPosts: 10,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's not new 52 Brainiac or any incarnation of Braniac in that picture. Also the Brainiac behind all this isn't New 52 Brainiac neither. It's the giant Brainiac from Future's End that is actually rumored to be the original pre-crisis Brainiac from the late 50's. Just evolved.
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  • GodNThaBuild'nGodNThaBuild'n Kneel at tha altar If dem looking fa mi then tell dem I be weh nobody knowsPosts: 8,161 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Has the Joker returned? If so what are they doing with the whole face cut off stuff
  • GodNThaBuild'nGodNThaBuild'n Kneel at tha altar If dem looking fa mi then tell dem I be weh nobody knowsPosts: 8,161 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cause I saw a preview for a batman endgame solicitation
  • lord nemesislord nemesis You ever dance with the Devil in the pale moonlight? Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Has the Joker returned? If so what are they doing with the whole face cut off stuff

    Apparently he dosed the entire Justice League with Joker venom and had them attack Batman. Think Snyder is building this up for Joker's grand return from Death of the Family.
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  • GodNThaBuild'nGodNThaBuild'n Kneel at tha altar If dem looking fa mi then tell dem I be weh nobody knowsPosts: 8,161 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Has the Joker returned? If so what are they doing with the whole face cut off stuff

    Apparently he dosed the entire Justice League with Joker venom and had them attack Batman. Think Snyder is building this up for Joker's grand return from Death of the Family.

    Will his face be intact. Because on the preview it shows like it was normal looking?
  • BroddieBroddie just me and my bitch NYCPosts: 10,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Scott Snyder didn't even bother to explain why Joker had his face cut off in the storyline he was supposed to explain it in. I doubt he even addresses that during this Endgame (which is the return of The Joker) garbage altogether.
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  • BroddieBroddie just me and my bitch NYCPosts: 10,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From newsarama
    DC's CONVERGENCE Week One: Donna Troy, Oracle, Married Superman, Montoya Question,

    DC has announced the first week’s worth of Convergence two-issue miniseries via CBR Tuesday morning, and it’s a doozy, with a heavy pre-52 focus. Basically everyone you’ve been missing is there, with some related creative teams to boot. It also sounds like the villains of the piece will be called the Extremists, and like most of the marooned heroes from other realities and Earths will have been on Blood Moon for at least a year when the mini-series begin.

    Yes, during Convergence we’ll see things like Stephanie Brown Batgirl working alongside Cassandra Cain Black Bat and Tim Drake in Cowl no-wings Red Robin costume. Wally West and Linda Park-West are married and have their kids in tow. Superman and Lois Lane? Also married, and she’s pregnant, too (don’t tell the Joker, Injustice fans, am I right?). Ray Palmer and Ryan Choi team-up. Dick Grayson and Barbara “Oracle” Gordon get married in a book written by Gail Simone. Donna Troy tries to help armless and childless Roy Harper (okay, maybe he can be left behind when this is all over). An all-female Justice League? Sure sounds like it. Greg Rucka writes The Question - starring Renee Montoya.

    Yeah, this is going to be fan service on a pretty consistent basis.

    SUPERMAN
    Writer: Dan Jurgens
    Artist Lee Weeks and Dan Jurgens/Norm Rapmund
    Superman and Lois deal with the impending birth of their child as he is called in to protect the city.

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    THE ATOM
    Writer: Tom Peyer
    Artist: Steve Yeowell / Andy Owens
    Ray Palmer finds that Ryan Choi is still alive. Together,
    they meet and confront Deathstroke, the man responsible for “killing” Choi, before fighting the invading Extremists.

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    BATGIRL
    Writer: Alisa Kwitney
    Artist: Rick Leonardi and Mark Pennington
    After a year in the dome, Stephanie Brown is not sure she wants to be Batgirl again. But when Flashpoint Catman attacks, Red Robin and Black Bat call her back into service.

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    NIGHTWING/ORACLE

    Writer: Gail Simone
    Artist: Jan Duursema and Dan Parsons
    Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon reevaluate their relationship under the dome (wedding!), but Flashpoint Hawkman & Hawkwoman attack, and everything changes.

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    SPEED FORCE
    Writer: Tony Bedard
    Artist: Tom Grummett and Sean Parsons
    Wally West and his kids are separated from Linda, which was bad enough, but when the dome falls, Flashpoint Wonder Woman comes for them.

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    TITANS
    Writer: Fabian Nicieza
    Artist: Ron Wagner and Jose Marzan
    Starfire and Donna Troy come to get Roy Harper who has gone into seclusion since the death of his child and loss of his arm, but then Arsenal has to choose between his team and resurrecting his dead daughter.

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    JUSTICE LEAGUE
    Writer: Frank Tieri
    Artist: Vicente Cifuentes
    When Supergirl, Zatanna, and Jade went to Jessie Quick's baby shower, they didn't expect to be taken to another planet for a year, or to be attacked by Flashpoint Aquaman.

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    QUESTION
    Writer: Greg Rucka
    Artist: Cully Hamner
    Two-Face is fighting another world's Harvey Dent, and it's up to Renee Montoya as the Question to help him beat the odds.

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    BATMAN & ROBIN
    Writer: Ron Marz
    Artist: Denys Cowan and Klaus Janson
    Bruce Wayne and Damian have friction with Red Hood before the Extremists attack.

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    HARLEY QUINN
    Writer: Steve Pugh
    Artist: Phil Winslade and John Dell
    Harley Quinn is enjoying her normal life under the dome until Catwoman and Poison Ivy draft her to fight Captain Carrot.

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  • GodNThaBuild'nGodNThaBuild'n Kneel at tha altar If dem looking fa mi then tell dem I be weh nobody knowsPosts: 8,161 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Was this a actual comic?
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  • BroddieBroddie just me and my bitch NYCPosts: 10,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah it's called Injustice. That was the end of year one.
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  • GodNThaBuild'nGodNThaBuild'n Kneel at tha altar If dem looking fa mi then tell dem I be weh nobody knowsPosts: 8,161 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Broddie wrote: »
    Broddie wrote: »
    Scott Snyder didn't even bother to explain why Joker had his face cut off in the storyline he was supposed to explain it in. I doubt he even addresses that during this Endgame (which is the return of The Joker) garbage altogether.


    I stand corrected

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    Looks more sadistic
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  • GodNThaBuild'nGodNThaBuild'n Kneel at tha altar If dem looking fa mi then tell dem I be weh nobody knowsPosts: 8,161 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Right under his nose with that one. Fooled the batman
  • DillaDeafDillaDeaf Ol' Deaf Bastard downstate IllinoisPosts: 4,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm trying to catch up on all the current DC stuff...but why are the "Flashpoint" heroes attacking?
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  • earth two supermanearth two superman ladies please dont fight. E2S is here all night! Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Broddie wrote: »
    Broddie wrote: »
    Scott Snyder didn't even bother to explain why Joker had his face cut off in the storyline he was supposed to explain it in. I doubt he even addresses that during this Endgame (which is the return of The Joker) garbage altogether.


    I stand corrected

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    I don't get it
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  • BroddieBroddie just me and my bitch NYCPosts: 10,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Broddie wrote: »
    Broddie wrote: »
    Scott Snyder didn't even bother to explain why Joker had his face cut off in the storyline he was supposed to explain it in. I doubt he even addresses that during this Endgame (which is the return of The Joker) garbage altogether.


    I stand corrected

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    I don't get it

    That's the cover for the next issue in the story.
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  • lord nemesislord nemesis You ever dance with the Devil in the pale moonlight? Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The implying of Joker as the Devil is interesting
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  • BroddieBroddie just me and my bitch NYCPosts: 10,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2015
    So Dan DiDio has been doing the press rounds for Convergence. His interview with newsarama is particularly interesting. These were the best parts.

    On the role Convergence plays across the greater DCU.
    I want people to understand that this is not just something that's a drop in the center of the line, and everything stops and then starts up again afterwards. It's quite the opposite.

    What's going on in the New 52 and the stories right now feed very nicely into the main Convergence storyline.

    And it also leads into other things coming out of it as well. So it's integral to what's going on in the DC Universe right now.
    it's not just about the generational characters and long-time fans coming back to see them, but really something that plays to all audiences, including the New 52 audience.
    When we launched the New 52, it was a rather harsh ending to the current universe. We did the Flashpoint story, which led us into the New 52, but you never got that sense of closure, like you did with other events.

    When you look at things like Crisis on Infinite Earths and Zero Hour, the characters that changed, you saw the character change occur and it sort of brought closure to certain books and characters and stories.

    We never did that with the pre-Flashpoint DC Universe. And there are a lot of interesting character beats and stories that we felt were still worth revisiting. So we're telling those stories, but we're also presenting characters in a way that I felt would intrigue fans.

    These aren't just leftover stories from pre-Flashpoint. These stories are as if we're joining their lives, later down the line, to see what happened to them.

    And then, more importantly, how it fits into the grander scope of things.

    And ultimately, you know, we're leaving every door open everywhere. We want to see what the reaction is, where the excitement is… because our goal is to reach as many people as possible. So the more people who get excited about ideas, the more that we'll go back and see whether or not there's this viable option on how to really capture whatever interest they're showing in those characters.

    Why Convergence is just another extension of DC since the creation of the multiverse back in the Silver Age
    Before Crisis on Infinite Earths, we had multiple worlds, multiple interpretations. We had imaginary stories. We had all these different things that basically allowed us to do multiple interpretations of our characters, under the auspices of continuity.

    Then when Crisis happened, we said no more multiverse, but then all of the sudden, lo and behold, "Elseworlds" emerges. And that's where we began to tell all the new stories with alternate characters and alternate storylines and alternate interpretations.

    Then after Infinite Crisis, we brought the Multiverse back, and wouldn't you know it, we went back out and showed different worlds.

    So I think, just because of creativity, storytelling in the medium that we're in, we're never going to be able to hold it that tight anymore.

    I think one of the things we talk about is this need to catalog or number every world. Or understand where they sit next to each other, and that's something that people push for more these days.

    But what we do is, if there's an important story to tell with our characters that can't be told in the normal confines of the way people perceive them right now, then we want to be able to give our writers and artists as much freedom as possible to tell those different interpretations. And whether it's an "Elseworlds" or a Multiverse or whatever, we're going to find ways to tell those stories.

    We have characters that have existed for dozens of years — for 75 years or more — and what audiences want to see is the true expansiveness, and see those characters true at the core, but see how else you can interpret them to give them different challenges.

    And I think the audience is hungry for that. [Next week], you'll see the Multiversity Guidebook. That lays out the entire Multiverse in that Guidebook. And pieces of that and worlds you see in there will play into Convergence.

    The main goal for Convergence
    In 2015, it's my hope that, as we bring the generational aspects of the DC Universe together, that we bring the multiple fans in together with Convergence — that there might be fans coming back in because they see something they remember from the past of DC, and we can bring them together with the new people that have really jumped on board and embraced the New 52.

    And what we're going to do right now is really make a commitment to our stories and characters, to make sure we present our characters in ways that are consistent to people's beliefs of them, and telling stories that we feel will entertain, excite and surprise them. If that's something we can do, then we win, because we build a foundation from which we can continue to build stories for years to come.
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  • VIBEVIBE Posts: 54,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I got lotta catching up to do..

    All of Injustice..

    When did Joker cut his face off? What series or issue?
  • BroddieBroddie just me and my bitch NYCPosts: 10,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A random scene in the first storyline of the New 52 Detective Comics. Which was garbage and not even worth tracking down.

    The important thing is that The Joker is back to having a face again. You're good enough just jumping into the current story. Scott Snyder's Batman book is not my cup of tea personally. I just read Detective Comics, Batman & Robin and Batman '66 when it comes to Batman. A lot of people do like it though and they seem to be enjoying the current Joker story much more than the previous one (Death in the Family) which IMO was pretty mediocre and a key reason why I dropped the book.
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  • VIBEVIBE Posts: 54,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm new to all this shit, so I have no clue what's considered good and bad.
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