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Do You Consider Eazy-E As The Godfather Of Gangsta Rap? (I Don't Ever See Him Get Love Like That)

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  • Say WhatSay What Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭✭
    Ice T was born on the east coast but started rapping from Cali as an adult. People act like Colors wasn't seen around the country. Easy did become a face (I think because he died) but he wasn't the godfather or drum major
    raheemclassickSneakDZASoloman_The_Wise
  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionPosts: 9,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    Gotta Love the revisionist.

    Schoolly D -PSK

    Ice-T - Who in his own words said, "6 in the morning" was inspired by Schooly D's PSK.

    I'd also mention Just-ice who's debut album(1986) had a song called "Gangster of Hip Hop. And was well known for toting a sawed off shotty and his work in the streets.

    Let's not forget one of Hip Hops founding fathers Africka Bambaataa was a warlord of the Black Spades. When Bam founded the Zulu nation many of the members were former Gang Members.

    All of this preceded Easy E's rap existence but I'll let yall revel in your Hip Hop fallacy. I'll stick to the True Historical facts.

    Now you know we on the same page on this hip hop.

    But this is not who's the Father of Gangsta Rap or hardcore rap, Just Ice was the first.

    But just like James Brown is the Godfather of soul, Not the Father of soul.

    Eazy E is the Godfather of Gangsta Rap, Eazy E brought the visual, slang, the stories of Gangsta Rap in what we know as Today.

    Eazy E became the face, spread gangsta rap all across the world.

    Much respect to Just Ice, Ice T, Schoolly D and all of them.

    But Eazy E took it to another level, He is The Godfather of Gangsta Rap


    I'll also sprinkle KRS in this as well, strictly off of Criminal Minded.

    I had this conversation with one of my southern homies. Some view it as Gangter Rap is actual gangsters rapping. Some view it as gangster themes being rapped about.

    In either case the artists I mentioned cover both. So, I can't agree with Easy being a God father. A God Son? Sure.


    Just Ice album strictly old school dropped in 1986.

    That's the same year NWA start recording NWA & The Posse in which Boyz N that Hood was making it ways through the L.A. Street.

    NWA Dropped NWA and the posse in 87, which went gold real fast off of Boyz N that Hood.

    Shit Mixmaster Spade had gangsta elements in talk before all of them.

    So what I'm saying what was going on in the East, The West was doing it also at the same time, and Mixmaster Spade before that.

    Eazy E Boyz N Tha Hood set the nation on fire, Boyz N that Hood was something they never heard in that light.
    Your best rapper saying 'YES, MASSA', when they beat 'em - HELL RAZAH


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  • $tayRichROLLIN$tayRichROLLIN Home away from homePosts: 2,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How do you not say Ice T isn't the godfather of this! Everyone who knows west coast history knows Ice was. And Believe it or not Ice was in them streets
    5 Grandmc317
  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionPosts: 9,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    Gotta Love the revisionist.

    Schoolly D -PSK

    Ice-T - Who in his own words said, "6 in the morning" was inspired by Schooly D's PSK.

    I'd also mention Just-ice who's debut album(1986) had a song called "Gangster of Hip Hop. And was well known for toting a sawed off shotty and his work in the streets.

    Let's not forget one of Hip Hops founding fathers Africka Bambaataa was a warlord of the Black Spades. When Bam founded the Zulu nation many of the members were former Gang Members.

    All of this preceded Easy E's rap existence but I'll let yall revel in your Hip Hop fallacy. I'll stick to the True Historical facts.

    Now you know we on the same page on this hip hop.

    But this is not who's the Father of Gangsta Rap or hardcore rap, Just Ice was the first.

    But just like James Brown is the Godfather of soul, Not the Father of soul.

    Eazy E is the Godfather of Gangsta Rap, Eazy E brought the visual, slang, the stories of Gangsta Rap in what we know as Today.

    Eazy E became the face, spread gangsta rap all across the world.

    Much respect to Just Ice, Ice T, Schoolly D and all of them.

    But Eazy E took it to another level, He is The Godfather of Gangsta Rap


    I'll also sprinkle KRS in this as well, strictly off of Criminal Minded.

    I had this conversation with one of my southern homies. Some view it as Gangter Rap is actual gangsters rapping. Some view it as gangster themes being rapped about.

    In either case the artists I mentioned cover both. So, I can't agree with Easy being a God father. A God Son? Sure.


    True Just Ice was a gangsta and so was Eazy E. Eazy was from Kelly Park Crip everybody knew that. He took his crack money and made Ruthless Record
    Your best rapper saying 'YES, MASSA', when they beat 'em - HELL RAZAH


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  • Kwan DaiKwan Dai Posts: 6,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    waterproof wrote: »
    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    Gotta Love the revisionist.

    Schoolly D -PSK

    Ice-T - Who in his own words said, "6 in the morning" was inspired by Schooly D's PSK.

    I'd also mention Just-ice who's debut album(1986) had a song called "Gangster of Hip Hop. And was well known for toting a sawed off shotty and his work in the streets.

    Let's not forget one of Hip Hops founding fathers Africka Bambaataa was a warlord of the Black Spades. When Bam founded the Zulu nation many of the members were former Gang Members.

    All of this preceded Easy E's rap existence but I'll let yall revel in your Hip Hop fallacy. I'll stick to the True Historical facts.

    Now you know we on the same page on this hip hop.

    But this is not who's the Father of Gangsta Rap or hardcore rap, Just Ice was the first.

    But just like James Brown is the Godfather of soul, Not the Father of soul.

    Eazy E is the Godfather of Gangsta Rap, Eazy E brought the visual, slang, the stories of Gangsta Rap in what we know as Today.

    Eazy E became the face, spread gangsta rap all across the world.

    Much respect to Just Ice, Ice T, Schoolly D and all of them.

    But Eazy E took it to another level, He is The Godfather of Gangsta Rap


    I'll also sprinkle KRS in this as well, strictly off of Criminal Minded.

    I had this conversation with one of my southern homies. Some view it as Gangter Rap is actual gangsters rapping. Some view it as gangster themes being rapped about.

    In either case the artists I mentioned cover both. So, I can't agree with Easy being a God father. A God Son? Sure.


    Just Ice album strictly old school dropped in 1986.

    That's the same year NWA start recording NWA & The Posse in which Boyz N that Hood was making it ways through the L.A. Street.

    NWA Dropped NWA and the posse in 87, which went gold real fast off of Boyz N that Hood.

    Shit Mixmaster Spade had gangsta elements in talk before all of them.

    So what I'm saying what was going on in the East, The West was doing it also at the same time, and Mixmaster Spade before that.

    Eazy E Boyz N Tha Hood set the nation on fire, Boyz N that Hood was something they never heard in that light.

    It would be fair to say that Just Ice album being released in 1986 was also recorded before that time circa 1985. However, that doesn't remove Schooly D's PSK. "Park Side Killas". Which was released in 1985. I also would note, the cadence and beat to Boyz in the hood. It's very PSK esqe. Easy just can't get that slot fam.
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  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionPosts: 9,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How do you not say Ice T isn't the godfather of this! Everyone who knows west coast history knows Ice was. And Believe it or not Ice was in them streets

    Because Ice T wasn't the torch bearer, I'm from The West and grew up off that gangsta shit.

    Ice T, Mixmaster Spade, NWA, Rodney O and Joe Cooley.

    Shit that electro hop, L.A. Dream Team, Jimmy and The Critters etc....

    Ice T was on that Punk Rap shit first. Eazy E came in gangsta shit no fillers. That Jherri Curl, Levis, T shirt that's his only disguise he wasn't lying he told Cube to write what he done and put it in the verse. All those stories from That E had Cube wrote those was his life.

    E was banging, Slanging for deals but he was smart and got out of it and flipped his drug money
    Your best rapper saying 'YES, MASSA', when they beat 'em - HELL RAZAH


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  • Kwan DaiKwan Dai Posts: 6,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    waterproof wrote: »
    How do you not say Ice T isn't the godfather of this! Everyone who knows west coast history knows Ice was. And Believe it or not Ice was in them streets

    Because Ice T wasn't the torch bearer, I'm from The West and grew up off that gangsta shit.

    Ice T, Mixmaster Spade, NWA, Rodney O and Joe Cooley.

    Shit that electro hop, L.A. Dream Team, Jimmy and The Critters etc....

    Ice T was on that Punk Rap shit first. Eazy E came in gangsta shit no fillers. That Jherri Curl, Levis, T shirt that's his only disguise he wasn't lying he told Cube to write what he done and put it in the verse. All those stories from That E had Cube wrote those was his life.

    E was banging, Slanging for deals but he was smart and got out of it and flipped his drug money

    While all this is factual. Eazy did'nt come up with the genre or style on his own. The influence and inspiration came from gangster rappers that preceded him. Yes, NWA was the first to have mainstream success with gangster theme raps but they were no where near the first or pioneering.

    Commercial success doesn't automagically give someone a loftier title.

    raheemclassickSoloman_The_Wise
  • MoneyLuverMoneyLuver Posts: 2,384 ✭✭✭✭
    NWA recorded music for tha sake of recording music, not to get a major deal (Dre even said that himself decades ago).


    Eazy gets tha spot becuz he's the embodiment of it. George Washington technically wasn't the first U.S. President but we still give him that nod.


    Also, the Media coined the term "Gangsta Rap" *I think it was the LA Times*. So while we shouldn't hardly forget about T, D, Spade, & Ice, we shouldn't over-inflate their History.



    Ain't no way u could give that title to T or any other of them niggaz. NWA got on and blazed trails that have embedded in Rap since theyve been on
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  • MoneyLuverMoneyLuver Posts: 2,384 ✭✭✭✭
    Also, Eazy's music is different from T's.


    T was on some hardcore punk rock hip hop shit for the most part. Eazy is the quintessential Gangsta Rapper.
    5 GrandSoloman_The_Wise
  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionPosts: 9,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MoneyLuver wrote: »
    NWA recorded music for tha sake of recording music, not to get a major deal (Dre even said that himself decades ago).


    Eazy gets tha spot becuz he's the embodiment of it. George Washington technically wasn't the first U.S. President but we still give him that nod.


    Also, the Media coined the term "Gangsta Rap" *I think it was the LA Times*. So while we shouldn't hardly forget about T, D, Spade, & Ice, we shouldn't over-inflate their History.



    Ain't no way u could give that title to T or any other of them niggaz. NWA got on and blazed trails that have embedded in Rap since theyve been on

    Questlove from The Roots said it the best, and we all know questions is a music head, hip hop junkie and musical Oracle.

    Questlove said hip hop got two halves.....Before NWA, After NWA and when he said this quote he was talking about the Impact of Eazy E and his group NWA have on hip hop
    Your best rapper saying 'YES, MASSA', when they beat 'em - HELL RAZAH


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  • 5 Grand5 Grand Posts: 12,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My two cents

    Everything has already been said. The only thing I'd add on is that the NWA and the Posse version of Boys In The Hood doesn't have any 808 (same with Dopeman). If you notice, those are remixes on the Eazy Duz It LP (and Strait Outta Compton).

    And don't make me bring up Melle Mel, he was talking about that street life in 1982.
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  • Say WhatSay What Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭✭
    Curtis Mayfield wrote im your pusher long before all of this. He started it lol
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  • level 7 bosslevel 7 boss Posts: 63 ✭✭
    E's voice is so dope. Contrasted nicely against Cube, Ren and them.
    5 GrandMoneyLuverSoloman_The_Wise
  • gamezpoggamezpog Posts: 334 ✭✭✭
    The Godfather of Gangsta Rap has always been and will be ... SCHOOLY D!!

    SneakDZASoloman_The_Wiseraheemclassick
  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionPosts: 9,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    _Lefty wrote: »
    Eazy took it to another level but I'd probably give ice-T the nod. He went into the street nigga's conciousness before Eazy put NWA together, the government was scared of Cop killer before they was scared of Fuck da police. They was talkin about ice-T havin the mac in the backpack in 1986, and I think he was the first person to ever have the explicit lyrics sticker that's on every album now too. You gotta give that nigga his due. Once straight outta Compton hit, it was a wrap though, NWA took it to another level, and Eazy put em together, but when you talkin about gangsta shit, I think Ice-T gotta be the answer(at least on the west coast) Schooly D was poppin back then too.

    You on time out, you carry yo ass in the corner and grab a Hip hop history book and study.

    And put on a dunce hat while you at it, and raise your hand next time before you ask a question
    Your best rapper saying 'YES, MASSA', when they beat 'em - HELL RAZAH


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  • 5 Grand5 Grand Posts: 12,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    waterproof wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
    Eazy took it to another level but I'd probably give ice-T the nod. He went into the street nigga's conciousness before Eazy put NWA together, the government was scared of Cop killer before they was scared of Fuck da police. They was talkin about ice-T havin the mac in the backpack in 1986, and I think he was the first person to ever have the explicit lyrics sticker that's on every album now too. You gotta give that nigga his due. Once straight outta Compton hit, it was a wrap though, NWA took it to another level, and Eazy put em together, but when you talkin about gangsta shit, I think Ice-T gotta be the answer(at least on the west coast) Schooly D was poppin back then too.

    You on time out, you carry yo ass in the corner and grab a Hip hop history book and study.

    And put on a dunce hat while you at it, and raise your hand next time before you ask a question

    yeah, Fuck the Police was about 3 years before Cop Killer but he had a point.
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  • _Lefty_Lefty Posts: 6,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    waterproof wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
    Eazy took it to another level but I'd probably give ice-T the nod. He went into the street nigga's conciousness before Eazy put NWA together, the government was scared of Cop killer before they was scared of Fuck da police. They was talkin about ice-T havin the mac in the backpack in 1986, and I think he was the first person to ever have the explicit lyrics sticker that's on every album now too. You gotta give that nigga his due. Once straight outta Compton hit, it was a wrap though, NWA took it to another level, and Eazy put em together, but when you talkin about gangsta shit, I think Ice-T gotta be the answer(at least on the west coast) Schooly D was poppin back then too.

    You on time out, you carry yo ass in the corner and grab a Hip hop history book and study.

    And put on a dunce hat while you at it, and raise your hand next time before you ask a question
    5 Grand wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
    Eazy took it to another level but I'd probably give ice-T the nod. He went into the street nigga's conciousness before Eazy put NWA together, the government was scared of Cop killer before they was scared of Fuck da police. They was talkin about ice-T havin the mac in the backpack in 1986, and I think he was the first person to ever have the explicit lyrics sticker that's on every album now too. You gotta give that nigga his due. Once straight outta Compton hit, it was a wrap though, NWA took it to another level, and Eazy put em together, but when you talkin about gangsta shit, I think Ice-T gotta be the answer(at least on the west coast) Schooly D was poppin back then too.

    You on time out, you carry yo ass in the corner and grab a Hip hop history book and study.

    And put on a dunce hat while you at it, and raise your hand next time before you ask a question

    yeah, Fuck the Police was about 3 years before Cop Killer but he had a point.
    @waterproof‌
    That's all he had to say. I had it wrong, I thought I had the years backward, but I figured ain't no way. All that other shit is corny my man.. A good rule of thumb is, don't type shit on a message board that you won't say to a nigga grill. That keeps good discussions in line, and respectful. If I say anything, i'll put a name, city, side of city, phone number and all that on it. Basically anyting but a real address. If you not willing to do the same, keep the crazy talk to yourself.
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  • Soloman_The_WiseSoloman_The_Wise The Make It Happen Man... Puget SoundPosts: 2,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think Kats got the term Godfather twisted calling Eazy the Godfather of Gangsta Rap does not mean he birthed it rather he took the honor to care for it and supported it to grow and become strong which he did...

    god·fa·ther
    ˈgädˌfäT͟Hər/Submit
    noun
    1.
    a male godparent.
    2.
    a man who is influential in a movement or organization, through providing support for it or through playing a leading or innovatory part in it.
    "the godfather of alternative comedy"
    The world Don't Understand Me, We are Living in Insanity, When I speak Profanity, It helps me Feed My Family, They Try and Banish Me, Because they Fear what I say, Spit Knowledge to the youth, Truth shows another way...

    Originally Posted by south4life

    "I'm not a drug dealer but, I'm cool with alot of street niggas...
    cause they respect the fact that I'm real with them, I'm not trying to be something I ain't.
    I'm cool with alot of street niggas here too cause, I come off as just being me and when I see them I holla and keep it moving. That's what's wrong with everybody now, they make being a gangsta or thug as the benchmark of being real. U know what's real, a nigga working a 9 to 5, busting his ass everyday without having to break a law."

    The world Don't Understand Me, We are Living in Insanity, When I speak Profanity, It helps me Feed My Family, They Try and Banish Me, Because they Fear what I say, Spit Knowledge to the youth, Truth shows a better way...

    I do not hate White People, Hell I regularly enjoy many White Women intimately, But I cannot stand Wiggers, RedNecks, or any Fag White Boys that do not Know there Place in shit...
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  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionPosts: 9,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    _Lefty wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
    Eazy took it to another level but I'd probably give ice-T the nod. He went into the street nigga's conciousness before Eazy put NWA together, the government was scared of Cop killer before they was scared of Fuck da police. They was talkin about ice-T havin the mac in the backpack in 1986, and I think he was the first person to ever have the explicit lyrics sticker that's on every album now too. You gotta give that nigga his due. Once straight outta Compton hit, it was a wrap though, NWA took it to another level, and Eazy put em together, but when you talkin about gangsta shit, I think Ice-T gotta be the answer(at least on the west coast) Schooly D was poppin back then too.

    You on time out, you carry yo ass in the corner and grab a Hip hop history book and study.

    And put on a dunce hat while you at it, and raise your hand next time before you ask a question
    5 Grand wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
    Eazy took it to another level but I'd probably give ice-T the nod. He went into the street nigga's conciousness before Eazy put NWA together, the government was scared of Cop killer before they was scared of Fuck da police. They was talkin about ice-T havin the mac in the backpack in 1986, and I think he was the first person to ever have the explicit lyrics sticker that's on every album now too. You gotta give that nigga his due. Once straight outta Compton hit, it was a wrap though, NWA took it to another level, and Eazy put em together, but when you talkin about gangsta shit, I think Ice-T gotta be the answer(at least on the west coast) Schooly D was poppin back then too.

    You on time out, you carry yo ass in the corner and grab a Hip hop history book and study.

    And put on a dunce hat while you at it, and raise your hand next time before you ask a question

    yeah, Fuck the Police was about 3 years before Cop Killer but he had a point.
    @waterproof‌
    That's all he had to say. I had it wrong, I thought I had the years backward, but I figured ain't no way. All that other shit is corny my man.. A good rule of thumb is, don't type shit on a message board that you won't say to a nigga grill. That keeps good discussions in line, and respectful. If I say anything, i'll put a name, city, side of city, phone number and all that on it. Basically anyting but a real address. If you not willing to do the same, keep the crazy talk to yourself.

    Crying and shit
    Your best rapper saying 'YES, MASSA', when they beat 'em - HELL RAZAH


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  • _Lefty_Lefty Posts: 6,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    waterproof wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
    Eazy took it to another level but I'd probably give ice-T the nod. He went into the street nigga's conciousness before Eazy put NWA together, the government was scared of Cop killer before they was scared of Fuck da police. They was talkin about ice-T havin the mac in the backpack in 1986, and I think he was the first person to ever have the explicit lyrics sticker that's on every album now too. You gotta give that nigga his due. Once straight outta Compton hit, it was a wrap though, NWA took it to another level, and Eazy put em together, but when you talkin about gangsta shit, I think Ice-T gotta be the answer(at least on the west coast) Schooly D was poppin back then too.

    You on time out, you carry yo ass in the corner and grab a Hip hop history book and study.

    And put on a dunce hat while you at it, and raise your hand next time before you ask a question
    5 Grand wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
    Eazy took it to another level but I'd probably give ice-T the nod. He went into the street nigga's conciousness before Eazy put NWA together, the government was scared of Cop killer before they was scared of Fuck da police. They was talkin about ice-T havin the mac in the backpack in 1986, and I think he was the first person to ever have the explicit lyrics sticker that's on every album now too. You gotta give that nigga his due. Once straight outta Compton hit, it was a wrap though, NWA took it to another level, and Eazy put em together, but when you talkin about gangsta shit, I think Ice-T gotta be the answer(at least on the west coast) Schooly D was poppin back then too.

    You on time out, you carry yo ass in the corner and grab a Hip hop history book and study.

    And put on a dunce hat while you at it, and raise your hand next time before you ask a question

    yeah, Fuck the Police was about 3 years before Cop Killer but he had a point.
    @waterproof‌
    That's all he had to say. I had it wrong, I thought I had the years backward, but I figured ain't no way. All that other shit is corny my man.. A good rule of thumb is, don't type shit on a message board that you won't say to a nigga grill. That keeps good discussions in line, and respectful. If I say anything, i'll put a name, city, side of city, phone number and all that on it. Basically anyting but a real address. If you not willing to do the same, keep the crazy talk to yourself.

    Crying and shit
    @waterproof‌

    Never that. Just a man of respect. Internet included. If you don't understand that. Then ig ain't nothin else to say.
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  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionPosts: 9,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    _Lefty wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
    Eazy took it to another level but I'd probably give ice-T the nod. He went into the street nigga's conciousness before Eazy put NWA together, the government was scared of Cop killer before they was scared of Fuck da police. They was talkin about ice-T havin the mac in the backpack in 1986, and I think he was the first person to ever have the explicit lyrics sticker that's on every album now too. You gotta give that nigga his due. Once straight outta Compton hit, it was a wrap though, NWA took it to another level, and Eazy put em together, but when you talkin about gangsta shit, I think Ice-T gotta be the answer(at least on the west coast) Schooly D was poppin back then too.

    You on time out, you carry yo ass in the corner and grab a Hip hop history book and study.

    And put on a dunce hat while you at it, and raise your hand next time before you ask a question
    5 Grand wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
    Eazy took it to another level but I'd probably give ice-T the nod. He went into the street nigga's conciousness before Eazy put NWA together, the government was scared of Cop killer before they was scared of Fuck da police. They was talkin about ice-T havin the mac in the backpack in 1986, and I think he was the first person to ever have the explicit lyrics sticker that's on every album now too. You gotta give that nigga his due. Once straight outta Compton hit, it was a wrap though, NWA took it to another level, and Eazy put em together, but when you talkin about gangsta shit, I think Ice-T gotta be the answer(at least on the west coast) Schooly D was poppin back then too.

    You on time out, you carry yo ass in the corner and grab a Hip hop history book and study.

    And put on a dunce hat while you at it, and raise your hand next time before you ask a question

    yeah, Fuck the Police was about 3 years before Cop Killer but he had a point.
    @waterproof‌
    That's all he had to say. I had it wrong, I thought I had the years backward, but I figured ain't no way. All that other shit is corny my man.. A good rule of thumb is, don't type shit on a message board that you won't say to a nigga grill. That keeps good discussions in line, and respectful. If I say anything, i'll put a name, city, side of city, phone number and all that on it. Basically anyting but a real address. If you not willing to do the same, keep the crazy talk to yourself.

    Crying and shit
    @waterproof‌

    Never that. Just a man of respect. Internet included. If you don't understand that. Then ig ain't nothin else to say.

    Look here man if you looking for respect on the internet you need to check your priorities.

    2nd of all man of a structure, never lose his calm and scream respect me, a man posture speaks for itself, and emotions losing your cool is a sign of weakness.

    3rd of all if your feelings was hurt, which it seems like it was with your emotional rant tough guy talk then as a Man I'm sorry to hurt your feelings, now go find somebody to stroke your ego because it ain't happening here.

    You see a man don't make threats If anything under them they don't even acknowledge it.

    Peace, and let's keep this moving tough guy

    Your best rapper saying 'YES, MASSA', when they beat 'em - HELL RAZAH


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  • _Lefty_Lefty Posts: 6,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    waterproof wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
    Eazy took it to another level but I'd probably give ice-T the nod. He went into the street nigga's conciousness before Eazy put NWA together, the government was scared of Cop killer before they was scared of Fuck da police. They was talkin about ice-T havin the mac in the backpack in 1986, and I think he was the first person to ever have the explicit lyrics sticker that's on every album now too. You gotta give that nigga his due. Once straight outta Compton hit, it was a wrap though, NWA took it to another level, and Eazy put em together, but when you talkin about gangsta shit, I think Ice-T gotta be the answer(at least on the west coast) Schooly D was poppin back then too.

    You on time out, you carry yo ass in the corner and grab a Hip hop history book and study.

    And put on a dunce hat while you at it, and raise your hand next time before you ask a question
    5 Grand wrote: »
    waterproof wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
    Eazy took it to another level but I'd probably give ice-T the nod. He went into the street nigga's conciousness before Eazy put NWA together, the government was scared of Cop killer before they was scared of Fuck da police. They was talkin about ice-T havin the mac in the backpack in 1986, and I think he was the first person to ever have the explicit lyrics sticker that's on every album now too. You gotta give that nigga his due. Once straight outta Compton hit, it was a wrap though, NWA took it to another level, and Eazy put em together, but when you talkin about gangsta shit, I think Ice-T gotta be the answer(at least on the west coast) Schooly D was poppin back then too.

    You on time out, you carry yo ass in the corner and grab a Hip hop history book and study.

    And put on a dunce hat while you at it, and raise your hand next time before you ask a question

    yeah, Fuck the Police was about 3 years before Cop Killer but he had a point.
    @waterproof‌
    That's all he had to say. I had it wrong, I thought I had the years backward, but I figured ain't no way. All that other shit is corny my man.. A good rule of thumb is, don't type shit on a message board that you won't say to a nigga grill. That keeps good discussions in line, and respectful. If I say anything, i'll put a name, city, side of city, phone number and all that on it. Basically anyting but a real address. If you not willing to do the same, keep the crazy talk to yourself.

    Crying and shit
    @waterproof‌

    Never that. Just a man of respect. Internet included. If you don't understand that. Then ig ain't nothin else to say.

    Look here man if you looking for respect on the internet you need to check your priorities.

    2nd of all man of a structure, never lose his calm and scream respect me, a man posture speaks for itself, and emotions losing your cool is a sign of weakness.

    3rd of all if your feelings was hurt, which it seems like it was with your emotional rant tough guy talk then as a Man I'm sorry to hurt your feelings, now go find somebody to stroke your ego because it ain't happening here.

    You see a man don't make threats If anything under them they don't even acknowledge it.

    Peace, and let's keep this moving tough guy
    waterproof wrote: »
    You on time out, you carry yo ass in the corner and grab a Hip hop history book and study.

    And put on a dunce hat while you at it, and raise your hand next time before you ask a question

    @waterproof‌
    Bruh.....You told me to sit in the corner, put on a dunce hat, and raise my hand when I had a question, but i'm the tough guy? I never threatened you, I just told you how I move. My personality is the same on a message board as it is movin around the city. Sayin what you mean don't make you emotional either, but if you feel that way so be it, it don't change my day. Internet or not, we still men talkin to men. I'm going to give total respect to the people around me, and ask for respect if a nigga out of line, I don't give a fuck if we was on Mars. Frontin on niggas is against the rules in any setting, and you gotta be willing to stand on it. Every thorough dude know that. When you feel free to say things on the net that you won't say IRL that says something about you. I don't need to make that distinction. We don't understand each other so lets just leave it there. You got it big homie.
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  • waterproofwaterproof Conqueror of Self On The Road to ZionPosts: 9,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think Kats got the term Godfather twisted calling Eazy the Godfather of Gangsta Rap does not mean he birthed it rather he took the honor to care for it and supported it to grow and become strong which he did...

    god·fa·ther
    ˈgädˌfäT͟Hər/Submit
    noun
    1.
    a male godparent.
    2.
    a man who is influential in a movement or organization, through providing support for it or through playing a leading or innovatory part in it.
    "the godfather of alternative comedy"

    And there you go, the definition laid it all out for y'all to see, Etymology of words need to be studied, now you know why the white man get over you because y'all don't understand the science and definitions of words.

    Name one Gangsta Rapper or emcee who was more influential in the movement of gangsta rap then Eazy E.

    He is the Godfather of Gangsta Rap
    Your best rapper saying 'YES, MASSA', when they beat 'em - HELL RAZAH


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  • Kwan DaiKwan Dai Posts: 6,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MoneyLuver wrote: »
    NWA recorded music for tha sake of recording music, not to get a major deal (Dre even said that himself decades ago).


    Eazy gets tha spot becuz he's the embodiment of it. George Washington technically wasn't the first U.S. President but we still give him that nod.


    Also, the Media coined the term "Gangsta Rap" *I think it was the LA Times*. So while we shouldn't hardly forget about T, D, Spade, & Ice, we shouldn't over-inflate their History.



    Ain't no way u could give that title to T or any other of them niggaz. NWA got on and blazed trails that have embedded in Rap since theyve been on

    As usual someone brings up commercial success to discredit the true creators, innovators, and pioneers.

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