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Iraqi troops suffer mass slaughter one mile from Baghdad: the general ISIS Chat thread

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  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 18
    janklow wrote: »
    Funny how you don't show that same outrage to the MANY innocent victims of American bombs and bullets in Iraq and other places-
    except that i do? in that i acknowledge it happens, whereas you outright claim Assad's merely being a little harsh.
    -but yeah, Assad is not an angel.
    sorry, "not an angel!"
    I still remember the room. It was very small. The interrogators came and went. There were different men, different faces. I don’t remember all of them because I was so weak by that point. It's not easy to describe the pain and humiliation of torture.

    First they asked for the names of the people I was working with. Then they asked me to confess that I’d been carrying heavy weapons and that I’d murdered a military officer. I was screaming that I didn’t. I was shouting that I just wanted freedom for them, for myself, for everyone. I just wanted to live in freedom. They looked at me blankly. It was like I was speaking to them from another world. So they continued, and they were merciless.

    I was still holding out when they hung me from the ceiling by my wrists for an hour, feeling like my body weight was going to break my wrists. When they brought me down, they pulled out a chair and asked me to sit. That was when they pulled down my trousers and held up a sharpened metal pole and a clamp for my penis. When they started to turn the screw, I confessed everything they asked.
    "but yeah, Assad is not an angel."
    As Syrians, you grow up hearing a lot about torture. You hear things you cannot imagine even a psychopath doing. They did all those things to us and more. But in Sednaya they didn't even bother with an interrogation. It was sadism. Our cell was meant for seven men but it held almost 60. We took it in turns to lie down, and if too many of us were too weak to stand, we lay on each other. There was no bathroom, only a hole in the floor that every man had to share. The smell has never left me.

    I was one of the “service” guys. It meant we had to work for our jailers. Sometimes it was just cleaning; other times it was carrying away the bodies. They made us beat people, too. By the end, I didn't even question it. We'd get beaten for not attacking the inmates hard enough. I saw one man kicked to death because our guards didn’t think he had done a good job.
    "but yeah, Assad is not an angel."
    The police came in the middle of the night to take my three brothers. Two of them were silent as it happened, but Abdulsalam fought like a wild cat. He thought they were going to try to take me, too, but they left me behind in the destruction of my home and all our possessions.

    We asked everyone where the boys had been taken. My mother stood outside every prison, sometimes waiting so long that the sun was too much for her and we had to come and collect her. She did that outside a different place every day, just in case someone would tell her something. My father spent so much of our money, hoping the bribes would bring news from inside. A lot of people tricked us and said they had information. The wait made me empty. It was like there was a hole inside of me. We waited three years.

    One day we got a call. They told us they were all dead. They were killed days after they were taken and all that waiting was for nothing. Abdulsalam was my best friend. I still have nightmares about what they did to him. But you know what? Part of me still doesn't believe it. We haven't seen the bodies; we haven't had a death certificate. I still pray for them when I go to sleep, just in case.
    "but yeah, Assad is not an angel."

    don't tell me you give a shit about innocent victims when you literally pretend to not read stuff like this getting posted in this thread.
    Be careful what you wish for though-
    shit, you're insisting on being willfully ignorant about what i wish for.

    Well to be fair, we don't know if Assad is ordering these things but if he is, then that's horrible. At the end of the day, Assad's crimes are still quite small compared to American ones, but the Syrian regime has been shady for sure.

    I do care about innocent victims in war, America has a way bigger body count compared to Assad's regime, but hey, I would be curious to see what Syria would look like with Assad's regime falling. It would be interesting seeing jihadists enslave and chop off the heads of even more religious minorities, especially Christians. It would be interesting seeing even more Christian women being sold off into slavery and being raped.

    I don't see Syria being more peaceful with Assad falling down, I see only more chaos, mayhem, and slavery and enslavement of women from jihadis. Seeing all that INCREASE with Assad's regime falling down would be EXTREMELY interesting to me. Feel free to continue cheerleading for Assad's regime to fall. I would die with laughter seeing my predictions come true, but in a meanwhile, Assad is consolidating his grip in territories he controls. That disappoints you, I'm sure.
  • janklowjanklow god's lonely man. Posts: 8,538 Regulator
    I do care about innocent victims in war, America has a way bigger body count compared to Assad's regime, but hey, I would be curious to see what Syria would look like with Assad's regime falling. It would be interesting seeing jihadists enslave and chop off the heads of even more religious minorities, especially Christians. It would be interesting seeing even more Christian women being sold off into slavery and being raped.
    you know what this translates to? "i don't care about innocent victims in war unless i can blame them on America.
    Feel free to continue cheerleading for Assad's regime to fall. I would die with laughter seeing my predictions come true, but in a meanwhile, Assad is consolidating his grip in territories he controls. That disappoints you, I'm sure.
    again, you're insisting on being willfully ignorant about what i wish for. you have no idea what disappoints me because you're only interested in repeating the same damn complaints about the US no matter what.
    kingblaze84
  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 24
    janklow wrote: »
    I do care about innocent victims in war, America has a way bigger body count compared to Assad's regime, but hey, I would be curious to see what Syria would look like with Assad's regime falling. It would be interesting seeing jihadists enslave and chop off the heads of even more religious minorities, especially Christians. It would be interesting seeing even more Christian women being sold off into slavery and being raped.
    you know what this translates to? "i don't care about innocent victims in war unless i can blame them on America.
    Feel free to continue cheerleading for Assad's regime to fall. I would die with laughter seeing my predictions come true, but in a meanwhile, Assad is consolidating his grip in territories he controls. That disappoints you, I'm sure.
    again, you're insisting on being willfully ignorant about what i wish for. you have no idea what disappoints me because you're only interested in repeating the same damn complaints about the US no matter what.

    LOL, so you don't want Assad removed from power now?? You getting second thoughts?

    Either way, Trump has ZERO plans to take out Assad, but he does have plans to take down North Korea's regime sometime this year. The world isn't gonna do shit about Assad, not as ISIS blows up teenage girls in countries that are part of the US coalition.
  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 24
    At least 22 dead and 59 wounded in the extremely brutal bombing that ISIS claimed responsibility for in Britain last night, many of the dead and wounded teenage girls and their parents. How ironic this attack took place only a few days after Trump begged the Muslim world to stamp out terror. I also found it funny how Trump said Iran is a leading sponsor of terrorism in his speech, yet Saudi Arabian government officials and their friends according to the State Department's internal emails are funding and giving weapons to ISIS and Al-Qaeda.

    How hilarious that Trump is now BRAGGING about a 110 BILLION dollar weapons deal with the Saudis as well. I wonder how many of those weapons will eventually end up in Islamic State hands.

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  • janklowjanklow god's lonely man. Posts: 8,538 Regulator
    LOL, so you don't want Assad removed from power now?? You getting second thoughts?
    i don't know, i've said what i want in this thread repeatedly. why don't you try reading it for a change?

    kingblaze84
  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    janklow wrote: »
    LOL, so you don't want Assad removed from power now?? You getting second thoughts?
    i don't know, i've said what i want in this thread repeatedly. why don't you try reading it for a change?

    Another horrible post from you.

    You said REPEATEDLY that you think Assad's govt is illegitimate and that you want him to go. Now that you find out that Assad is consolidating his rule, you're suddenly gonna act like him being safer in power doesn't disappoint you? LOL yeah okay. If you are not disappointed in Assad consolidating his grip on power, then just say so.

  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 31
    Anyone here have family or friends in the Philippines? ISIS is said to have taken over a few towns there, not sure what the truth is because I'm seeing conflicting reports. Either way, militants who joined ISIS in 2014 or 2015 are said to have killed a lot of Filipino soldiers and cops these past few months, maybe hundreds. I haven't paid much attention to the situation in the Philippines but this is surprising to me.
  • Swiffness!Swiffness! PART OF THE CONSPIRACY Posts: 10,069 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2
    janklow wrote: »
    Terrible post from you. Anyway, I have already criticized Assad for being harsh numbskull, I just don't see how Assad's harshness even comes remotely close to the extreme horrors and chaos America has caused in the region.
    because you INSIST on being willfully obtuse about Assad. case in point, in this sentence, you:

    -describe Assad as "harsh"
    -describe the US as causing "extreme horrors and chaos"

    ...which tells us that you don't think Assad assigning tens of thousands of Syrian citizens to torture and murder in regime facilities as "extreme horrors." which in turn tells us that you would rather rant about the US than spend one second of your life acknowledging the crimes of Assad. again, his crimes have literally been posted about AT LENGTH in this thread, only for you to pretend to be unaware of them. disgusting.
    Multiple sources say the American invasion has led to at least a million plus civilian deaths in Iraq alone.
    multiple sources detail Assad's crimes, yet you dispute them or claim to be unaware of them. yet you cite sources that want to hold the US accountable for deaths caused by others in the wake of their conflict while ignoring sources that talk about crimes committed DIRECTLY by Assad's regime.
    But I have said several times that I would find it amusing if Assad gets taken down from power.
    this is just another version of you being ride or die for Assad's innocence.
    I would simply laugh at the massive chaos that would come as a result.
    massive chaos that would occur in Syria as a DIRECT result of Assad's response to non-violent protests. but you won't acknowledge how much of a massive hypocrite you are when it comes to Assad, because that would require you to man up to a level you either cannot or will not do.

    I already know Assad is harsh to his enemies

    still doing this in 2017 lol

    why can't you ever just admit "Assad is obviously preferable to ISIS running the show, but he's still a horrible monster in his own right too"

    this is what Janklow is getting at

    Is Assad evil? Yes. Better alternative than ISIS? Sadly, also yes. Boom. See? That wasn't hard.

    But you can never do this and that's why I quit this thread like 10 years ago lol, you reflexively throw the cape on for Assad and immediately launch into BUTWHATABOUTIRAQ-

    Nobody on the IC has supported the Iraq invasion since there was a G-Unit sub-forum in The Reason. You always turn it into this straw man argument like Janklow is some nigga that wanna gas the Palestinians and roll the tanks into Tehran....

    You come off like a WW2 scholar that keeps weirdly trying to argue that Stalin didn't commit any war crimes and the only alternative was Hitler so therefore Stalin wasn't a bad guy, he was just a little "harsh" to all those Poles in Katyn Forest, LOOK HOW MANY PEOPLE HITLER KILLED AGAIN-

    Always with this black and white binary thinking where two things cannot be true at the same time. Assad can't be both a cruel, genocidal monster that puts children in rape dungeons AND the only warlord that can stop jihadists from taking over. Its impossible. Can't be equally outraged by the Collateral Murder video and Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb's murder. No you have to CHOOSE SIDES. And since America's middle east policy is SO SHITTY, anybody that's not America is Not That Bad™ by default. America has the COPYRIGHT and EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS to war crimes in the Middle East. Its PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for Assad to be a horrible war criminal because that would mean the U.S hasn't committed horrible war crimes itself. That's you. That's how you think. You're an anti-war activist caping every day in a dead forum for a war criminal because he (sorta) opposes other war criminals you don't like. Congrats.

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    If I felt like wasting my time going through this thread, I'm sure there's a bunch of articles you ignored about how Assad released jihadist soldiers from his prisons when the war began ahhhh fuck it
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    kingblaze84
  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2
    Swiffness! wrote: »
    janklow wrote: »
    Terrible post from you. Anyway, I have already criticized Assad for being harsh numbskull, I just don't see how Assad's harshness even comes remotely close to the extreme horrors and chaos America has caused in the region.
    because you INSIST on being willfully obtuse about Assad. case in point, in this sentence, you:

    -describe Assad as "harsh"
    -describe the US as causing "extreme horrors and chaos"

    ...which tells us that you don't think Assad assigning tens of thousands of Syrian citizens to torture and murder in regime facilities as "extreme horrors." which in turn tells us that you would rather rant about the US than spend one second of your life acknowledging the crimes of Assad. again, his crimes have literally been posted about AT LENGTH in this thread, only for you to pretend to be unaware of them. disgusting.
    Multiple sources say the American invasion has led to at least a million plus civilian deaths in Iraq alone.
    multiple sources detail Assad's crimes, yet you dispute them or claim to be unaware of them. yet you cite sources that want to hold the US accountable for deaths caused by others in the wake of their conflict while ignoring sources that talk about crimes committed DIRECTLY by Assad's regime.
    But I have said several times that I would find it amusing if Assad gets taken down from power.
    this is just another version of you being ride or die for Assad's innocence.
    I would simply laugh at the massive chaos that would come as a result.
    massive chaos that would occur in Syria as a DIRECT result of Assad's response to non-violent protests. but you won't acknowledge how much of a massive hypocrite you are when it comes to Assad, because that would require you to man up to a level you either cannot or will not do.

    I already know Assad is harsh to his enemies

    still doing this in 2017 lol

    why can't you ever just admit "Assad is obviously preferable to ISIS running the show, but he's still a horrible monster in his own right too"

    this is what Janklow is getting at

    Is Assad evil? Yes. Better alternative than ISIS? Sadly, also yes. Boom. See? That wasn't hard.

    But you can never do this and that's why I quit this thread like 10 years ago lol, you reflexively throw the cape on for Assad and immediately launch into BUTWHATABOUTIRAQ-

    Nobody on the IC has supported the Iraq invasion since there was a G-Unit sub-forum in The Reason. You always turn it into this straw man argument like Janklow is some nigga that wanna gas the Palestinians and roll the tanks into Tehran....

    You come off like a WW2 scholar that keeps weirdly trying to argue that Stalin didn't commit any war crimes and the only alternative was Hitler so therefore Stalin wasn't a bad guy, he was just a little "harsh" to all those Poles in Katyn Forest, LOOK HOW MANY PEOPLE HITLER KILLED AGAIN-

    Always with this black and white binary thinking where two things cannot be true at the same time. Assad can't be both a cruel, genocidal monster that puts children in rape dungeons AND the only warlord that can stop jihadists from taking over. Its impossible. Can't be equally outraged by the Collateral Murder video and Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb's murder. No you have to CHOOSE SIDES. And since America's middle east policy is SO SHITTY, anybody that's not America is Not That Bad™ by default. America has the COPYRIGHT and EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS to war crimes in the Middle East. Its PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for Assad to be a horrible war criminal because that would mean the U.S hasn't committed horrible war crimes itself. That's you. That's how you think. You're an anti-war activist caping every day in a dead forum for a war criminal because he (sorta) opposes other war criminals you don't like. Congrats.

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    If I felt like wasting my time going through this thread, I'm sure there's a bunch of articles you ignored about how Assad released jihadist soldiers from his prisons when the war began ahhhh fuck it

    You haven't been paying attention to what I've been saying, I have ALREADY said Assad is not an angel, I know his regime has done some fucked up things. I have also made clear that his crimes still don't come close to America's war atrocities, so yeah, I don't criticize Assad as much as I do America's crimes.

    America's foreign policy is without question making things much worse and you better believe America gets more blame worldwide for terrorist groups exploding in numbers compared to any blame Assad may deserve. If you want to bash Assad here, go right on ahead. I've spoken to MAAANNNYYY people on this subject, women and men, and I usually get the same response: America is much more responsible for this situation then Assad. But if you want to bash Assad, by all means, go right on ahead. Enlighten me.

    America supporting Israel's apartheid is an EVIL action that GUARANTEES more recruitment for ISIS for many years to come. As bad as Assad is, at least he doesn't support Israeli apartheid. As long as America continues its policies of evil, I expect MORE groups who support ISIS to flourish.
  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2
    The situation in the Philippines is getting pretty crazy, ISIS claimed responsibility for what appears to be a big terror attack in a Filipino casino last night, at least 37 dead after a gunman described as a White guy shot at many gamblers and set fires all over the casino. This happened in Manilla, the Phillipines' capital.....Filipino authorities and Duerte are claiming publicly that it was just a "robber", but what kind of robber shoots at gamblers and casino employees all throughout a casino and sets explosions all over the place he wants to rob?

    Anyway, Filipino soldiers are so desperate to get rid of the ISIS threat that they're using air strikes against them now, air strikes which also accidentally killed 11 Filipino soldiers yesterday. Amazing how Muslim jihadis are still flocking to ISIS and its banner, despite the fact that Mosul and Raqqa are going to be taken from Islamic State soon. There are also rumors ISIS is responsible for the massive Afghanistan bombing on Monday, in which 100 people were killed, over 461 wounded.

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/isis-claims-manila-casino-attack-123642155.html

    http://www.newsweek.com/manila-shooting-isis-resort-attack-619281

    ISIS Claims Manila Casino Attack at Resorts World Complex


    The Islamic State militant group (ISIS) has claimed responsibility for an attack on a casino in the Philippine capital Manila that killed at least 36 people on Friday, the group's Amaq news agency said, after officials said there was no evidence of militant involvement.

    A gunman burst into the Resorts World Manila entertainment complex on Friday, firing shots, setting gaming tables alight and killing at least 36 people, all suffocating in thick smoke, in what officials have said was a botched robbery.

    "Islamic State fighters carried out the Manila attack in the Philippines," the news agency said.
  • janklowjanklow god's lonely man. Posts: 8,538 Regulator
    Another horrible post from you.
    you literally won't admit posts in this thread are in this thread, so you have absolutely no fucking room to talk.
    You said REPEATEDLY that you think Assad's govt is illegitimate and that you want him to go. Now that you find out that Assad is consolidating his rule, you're suddenly gonna act like him being safer in power doesn't disappoint you? LOL yeah okay. If you are not disappointed in Assad consolidating his grip on power, then just say so.
    so here's the thing: i have REPEATEDLY said it's not a cut-and-dry answer like you want it to be. and i have answered this question REPEATEDLY. but since you are pretending that things posted in this thread haven't been seen by you as is convenient, why am i repeating myself again?

    you won't even acknowledge posts about Assad that you have replied to before. so just white knight for the fucker and keep it moving.

  • janklowjanklow god's lonely man. Posts: 8,538 Regulator
    Swiffness! wrote: »
    why can't you ever just admit "Assad is obviously preferable to ISIS running the show, but he's still a horrible monster in his own right too"
    this is what Janklow is getting at
    Is Assad evil? Yes. Better alternative than ISIS? Sadly, also yes. Boom. See? That wasn't hard.
    But you can never do this and that's why I quit this thread like 10 years ago lol, you reflexively throw the cape on for Assad and immediately launch into BUTWHATABOUTIRAQ-
    Nobody on the IC has supported the Iraq invasion since there was a G-Unit sub-forum in The Reason. You always turn it into this straw man argument like Janklow is some nigga that wanna gas the Palestinians and roll the tanks into Tehran....
    You come off like a WW2 scholar that keeps weirdly trying to argue that Stalin didn't commit any war crimes and the only alternative was Hitler so therefore Stalin wasn't a bad guy, he was just a little "harsh" to all those Poles in Katyn Forest, LOOK HOW MANY PEOPLE HITLER KILLED AGAIN-
    Always with this black and white binary thinking where two things cannot be true at the same time. Assad can't be both a cruel, genocidal monster that puts children in rape dungeons AND the only warlord that can stop jihadists from taking over. Its impossible. Can't be equally outraged by the Collateral Murder video and Hamza Ali Al-Khateeb's murder. No you have to CHOOSE SIDES. And since America's middle east policy is SO SHITTY, anybody that's not America is Not That Bad™ by default. America has the COPYRIGHT and EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS to war crimes in the Middle East. Its PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for Assad to be a horrible war criminal because that would mean the U.S hasn't committed horrible war crimes itself. That's you. That's how you think. You're an anti-war activist caping every day in a dead forum for a war criminal because he (sorta) opposes other war criminals you don't like. Congrats.
    yes, yes, thank you
    Swiffness! wrote: »
    If I felt like wasting my time going through this thread, I'm sure there's a bunch of articles you ignored about how Assad released jihadist soldiers from his prisons when the war began ahhhh fuck it
    accurate

  • janklowjanklow god's lonely man. Posts: 8,538 Regulator
    edited June 6
    You haven't been paying attention to what I've been saying, I have ALREADY said Assad is not an angel, I know his regime has done some fucked up things. I have also made clear that his crimes still don't come close to America's war atrocities-
    two quick, redundant points:
    01. "Assad is not an angel": literally the harshest criticism you will levy against Assad, a man who imprisons, tortures and murders tens of thousands of HIS OWN CITIZENS
    02. you still REFUSE to utter a single sentence criticizing Assad without IMMEDIATELY crying about how wicked America is. and that is a fucking disgrace.
  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    janklow wrote: »
    You haven't been paying attention to what I've been saying, I have ALREADY said Assad is not an angel, I know his regime has done some fucked up things. I have also made clear that his crimes still don't come close to America's war atrocities-
    two quick, redundant points:
    01. "Assad is not an angel": literally the harshest criticism you will levy against Assad, a man who imprisons, tortures and murders tens of thousands of HIS OWN CITIZENS
    02. you still REFUSE to utter a single sentence criticizing Assad without IMMEDIATELY crying about how wicked America is. and that is a fucking disgrace.

    I have already said if you want to bash Assad here, go ahead. Tell the mountains, tell the hills, tell everyone.

    Knock yourself out, it doesn't change anything I have said previously.
  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    janklow wrote: »
    Another horrible post from you.
    you literally won't admit posts in this thread are in this thread, so you have absolutely no fucking room to talk.
    You said REPEATEDLY that you think Assad's govt is illegitimate and that you want him to go. Now that you find out that Assad is consolidating his rule, you're suddenly gonna act like him being safer in power doesn't disappoint you? LOL yeah okay. If you are not disappointed in Assad consolidating his grip on power, then just say so.
    so here's the thing: i have REPEATEDLY said it's not a cut-and-dry answer like you want it to be. and i have answered this question REPEATEDLY. but since you are pretending that things posted in this thread haven't been seen by you as is convenient, why am i repeating myself again?

    you won't even acknowledge posts about Assad that you have replied to before. so just white knight for the fucker and keep it moving.

    So you don't have a cut and dry answer on Assad, although you have said several times you feel his government is illegitimate. No problem. I expect his regime to survive one way or the other either way.
  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 7
    ISIS and their followers have been on a huge rampage these past few weeks, their brutality crossing various continents and over four or five nations. Islamic State officials seem to have been telling the truth last year when they said Trump's election boosted recruitment numbers for them, because the news lately has been shocking. It's becoming obvious ISIS as a terror group is not slowing down, I'll be bold enough to say I don't even think ISIS leadership is in Mosul or Raqqa anymore.

    ISIS committed the horrible van attack that killed at least 7, wounded 48 (21 critically) in London just last week and just this morning, ISIS jihadis were bold enough to raid IRAN's PARLIAMENT, on top of shooting at Shia guests in a major Shia monument. 12 dead at least, over 40 injured in the Iranian attacks today.

    Ironically, American soldiers attacked and bombed Shia militias affiliated with Syria's government last night in Syria, militias that are fighting ISIS on the ground. As American terrorism increases, ISIS terrorism is increasing as well.......it should be noted that the sister of the Manchester attacker who killed many teenagers and their parents last week blamed American airstrikes killing civilians for her brother becoming angry enough to do what he did.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/05/25/manchester-bombers-sister-attack-revenge-america-bombing-syria/

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/iran-attack-gunmen-storm-tehran-074742577.html

    Salman Abedi carried out his attack at a concert in Manchester, England, as revenge for the bombing of Syria by the U.S., his sister has said.
    Jomana Abedi said her brother was “kind” and “loving”, but had been driven to his actions by American military strikes against Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad.


    “I think he saw children – Muslim children – dying everywhere, and wanted revenge,” she told the Wall Street Journal.

    “He saw the explosives America drops on children in Syria, and he wanted revenge. Whether he got that is between him and God.”

  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some video of the Iranian parliament attack today, one of the attackers was a woman according to several sources. Machine guns and bombs were used



  • janklowjanklow god's lonely man. Posts: 8,538 Regulator
    I have already said if you want to bash Assad here, go ahead. Tell the mountains, tell the hills, tell everyone.
    Knock yourself out, it doesn't change anything I have said previously.
    i'm not bashing Assad there. i'm bashing your excusing of Assad.
    So you don't have a cut and dry answer on Assad, although you have said several times you feel his government is illegitimate.
    why does saying his government is illegitimate mean the answer is cut and dry?
    better yet: have you read prior posts yet or not?

  • janklowjanklow god's lonely man. Posts: 8,538 Regulator
    ISIS and their followers have been on a huge rampage these past few weeks, their brutality crossing various continents and over four or five nations. Islamic State officials seem to have been telling the truth last year when they said Trump's election boosted recruitment numbers for them, because the news lately has been shocking. It's becoming obvious ISIS as a terror group is not slowing down, I'll be bold enough to say I don't even think ISIS leadership is in Mosul or Raqqa anymore.
    except that as a caliphate they continue to slow down?

    Jomana Abedi said her brother was “kind” and “loving”, but had been driven to his actions by American military strikes against Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad.
    “I think he saw children – Muslim children – dying everywhere, and wanted revenge,” she told the Wall Street Journal.

    “He saw the explosives America drops on children in Syria, and he wanted revenge. Whether he got that is between him and God.”
    you know someone who INTENTIONALLY drops bombs on children in Syria? Assad.

    oh right, you don't give a fuck about anything he does.

  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14
    janklow wrote: »
    ISIS and their followers have been on a huge rampage these past few weeks, their brutality crossing various continents and over four or five nations. Islamic State officials seem to have been telling the truth last year when they said Trump's election boosted recruitment numbers for them, because the news lately has been shocking. It's becoming obvious ISIS as a terror group is not slowing down, I'll be bold enough to say I don't even think ISIS leadership is in Mosul or Raqqa anymore.
    except that as a caliphate they continue to slow down?

    Jomana Abedi said her brother was “kind” and “loving”, but had been driven to his actions by American military strikes against Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad.
    “I think he saw children – Muslim children – dying everywhere, and wanted revenge,” she told the Wall Street Journal.

    “He saw the explosives America drops on children in Syria, and he wanted revenge. Whether he got that is between him and God.”
    you know someone who INTENTIONALLY drops bombs on children in Syria? Assad.

    oh right, you don't give a fuck about anything he does.

    I did say ISIS as a terror group isn't slowing down, they're still very active in Iraq, Afghanistan, the Philippines, among other places. But as a caliphate, yeah they definitely are shrinking. ISIS as a terror group is probably much more dangerous and unpredictable though, so let's see how the world deals with that. I have a feeling the world won't deal with it well.

    As far as Assad purposely dropping bombs on civilians, it's terrible of course. But as we all know by now, America has killed WAAAAAAAAY MORE innocent civilians on purpose compared to Assad. Don't forget what Trump said about killing the families of ISIS. America is quite extreme when it comes to its CONSTANT killings of innocent civilians, word to the many Youtube videos from former American soldiers.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-holds-the-world-record-of-killings-innocent-civilians/5393789

    Prof. John McMurtry says that the U.S. government is a gigantic mass-murdering machine which earns profit through waging wars, and is never held accountable over its unspeakable war crimes and crimes against humanity. He also believes that the U.S. has become a police state, which treats its citizens in the most derogatory manner.

    “I have travelled alone with only backpack possession through the world, and have found no state in which police forces are more habituated to violent bullying, more likely to draw a gun, more discriminatory against the dispossessed, and more arbitrarily vicious in normal behavior,” said McMurtry. “The US now leads the globe in an underlying civil war of the rich against the poor.”

    “The US can … detain, kidnap and imprison without trial or indictment any US citizen or other citizen anywhere by designating them enemies to the US,” Prof. John McMurtry noted in an exclusive interview with Fars News Agency.


    --I agree with about 99% of what the professor says. America has a huge amount of foreign enemies worldwide for good reason. America has way more enemies worldwide then Assad does HAHAHAHA, no coincidence.
  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14
    For those who wonder why I am MUCH more disgusted at America's FREQUENT mass civilian killings compared to Assad's regime (the Syrian civil war is mostly over now by the way)......

    http://www.truthnewsmedia.com/paris-was-horrific-but-the-world-ignores-the-usa-uk-mass-murder-machine.html

    To date, the USA has been responsible for the deaths of at least 20 million people since the end of World War II, in 37 nations. A report by James A. Lucas of Counter Currents explains:


    This study reveals that U.S. military forces were directly responsible for about 10 to 15 million deaths during the Korean and Vietnam Wars and the two Iraq Wars. The Korean War also includes Chinese deaths while the Vietnam War also includes fatalities in Cambodia and Laos.

    The American public probably is not aware of these numbers and knows even less about the proxy wars for which the United States is also responsible. In the latter wars there were between nine and 14 million deaths in Afghanistan, Angola, Democratic Republic of the Congo, East Timor, Guatemala, Indonesia, Pakistan and Sudan.

    These figures do not include the full figures of more recent violations, such as drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and Afghanistan.


    --Let's hope these numbers are exaggerated? But I wouldn't be surprised if those numbers are accurate, America has been the NUMBER ONE exterminator of innocent life for a very long time now.
  • Will MunnyWill Munny Eatin pussy and kickin ass Posts: 29,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For those who wonder why I am MUCH more disgusted at America's FREQUENT mass civilian killings compared to Assad's regime (the Syrian civil war is mostly over now by the way)......

    http://www.truthnewsmedia.com/paris-was-horrific-but-the-world-ignores-the-usa-uk-mass-murder-machine.html

    To date, the USA has been responsible for the deaths of at least 20 million people since the end of World War II, in 37 nations. A report by James A. Lucas of Counter Currents explains:


    This study reveals that U.S. military forces were directly responsible for about 10 to 15 million deaths during the Korean and Vietnam Wars and the two Iraq Wars. The Korean War also includes Chinese deaths while the Vietnam War also includes fatalities in Cambodia and Laos.

    The American public probably is not aware of these numbers and knows even less about the proxy wars for which the United States is also responsible. In the latter wars there were between nine and 14 million deaths in Afghanistan, Angola, Democratic Republic of the Congo, East Timor, Guatemala, Indonesia, Pakistan and Sudan.

    These figures do not include the full figures of more recent violations, such as drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and Afghanistan.


    --Let's hope these numbers are exaggerated? But I wouldn't be surprised if those numbers are accurate, America has been the NUMBER ONE exterminator of innocent life for a very long time now.

    How can we be number one exterminator when like Moa killed like 78 million people, 78 is way more than 20 unless my math is wrong. Stalin killed like 60 million people, and that still way more than 20.
    Times are tough, but they ain't got nothin' on me.
  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14
    Will Munny wrote: »
    For those who wonder why I am MUCH more disgusted at America's FREQUENT mass civilian killings compared to Assad's regime (the Syrian civil war is mostly over now by the way)......

    http://www.truthnewsmedia.com/paris-was-horrific-but-the-world-ignores-the-usa-uk-mass-murder-machine.html

    To date, the USA has been responsible for the deaths of at least 20 million people since the end of World War II, in 37 nations. A report by James A. Lucas of Counter Currents explains:


    This study reveals that U.S. military forces were directly responsible for about 10 to 15 million deaths during the Korean and Vietnam Wars and the two Iraq Wars. The Korean War also includes Chinese deaths while the Vietnam War also includes fatalities in Cambodia and Laos.

    The American public probably is not aware of these numbers and knows even less about the proxy wars for which the United States is also responsible. In the latter wars there were between nine and 14 million deaths in Afghanistan, Angola, Democratic Republic of the Congo, East Timor, Guatemala, Indonesia, Pakistan and Sudan.

    These figures do not include the full figures of more recent violations, such as drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and Afghanistan.


    --Let's hope these numbers are exaggerated? But I wouldn't be surprised if those numbers are accurate, America has been the NUMBER ONE exterminator of innocent life for a very long time now.

    How can we be number one exterminator when like Moa killed like 78 million people, 78 is way more than 20 unless my math is wrong. Stalin killed like 60 million people, and that still way more than 20.

    I'm talking for the past 16 years specifically that America has been number one, but I know all about Mao and Stalin.

    I've never seen sources that say Stalin is responsible for 60 million dead, but I've seen some that say 20 million. Mao is possibly around the 70 million range, depending on the source that's believed.


  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 17
    Fun fact: Winston Churchill was a White supremacist who may be responsible for the deaths of over 22 million people.

    The British Empire killed over 150 million people since the 1700s, making it more deadly then the Nazi Empire and even the Soviet Union. Just found this out about a few days ago, I knew Churchill killed a ton of Africans and Indians, but I didn't know his crimes were large to this extent.

    Just thought I'd bring this up, since we've mentioned Mao and Stalin.



  • Will MunnyWill Munny Eatin pussy and kickin ass Posts: 29,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    British have been one of the most oppressive societies since forever.

    Times are tough, but they ain't got nothin' on me.
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