F**k the Hellcat..

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  • konceptjoneskonceptjones Old School Playa Posts: 11,322 ✭✭✭✭✭
    EmM HoLLa. wrote: »
    http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/ten-used-cars-that-can-kill-a-dodge-hellcat-for-less-th-1752856621
    JALOPNIK
    January 14, 2016
    Ten Used Cars That Can Kill A Dodge Hellcat For Less Than $60,000
    Freddy "Tavarish" Hernandez on The Garage, shared by Patrick George to Jalopnik

    When Dodge released its 707-horsepower Hellcat

    line of cars (and soon to be Jeeps!), it marked an rubber-covered line in sand that every other new car manufacturer wouldn’t dare cross. The used car market has quite a different story . Here are 10 cars that would show a Hellcat its taillights, under a 60 grand budget.
    10. 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1

    This Chevy Camaro ZL1 used to be the pony car top-dog for, like, 10 minutes until Ford and Dodge brought in their tactical nukes, but what this particular Camaro has on its side is the ability to be modified to four digit horsepower on a budget that would make any supercar owner question their seemingly frivolous life choices. Do not drive it in Virginia

    , ever.
    Grab a smaller pulley and some supporting mods with the left over budget and practice your hearty scoff for when a Hellcat owner comes ‘round.

    (Suggested by Arrivederci)

    9. 1991 Chevrolet Corvette

    This Chevy C4 Corvette isn’t exactly stock, but it will line up with and school anything made by Dodge in the last century. I’ll let NegativeEd explain:

    1991 Turbo Vette - Why? Because. Race Car. Claimed 1,000 hp and 1.45 60' in the quarter mile at 138 mph. Aside from the HUGE rear tires, car looks like a ‘91 Vette should look so none should be the wiser until you stomp on the skinny pedal. Unlike the Hellcat, this car appears to have all the mods needed to keep you as protected as possible should you NOT have the proper experience to handle all that horsepower as it is seen above at an actual drag strip where you need to pass a safety inspection.

    Other than that, it’s a beautiful blue, smokes the SNOT out of some beefy sneakers and comes stock with T-TOPS! Did I mention it’s a Corvette too?

    Mods I would make? Big f’in sign on the dash, “Sit down, buckle up, try not to scream like the Nance you are and hold the F on.”

    (Suggested by NegativeEd)

    8. 2012 Ford Shelby GT500

    This Shelby GT500 is two things: a misnomer because it has more than 550 horsepower coming from its supercharged V8 engine, and perhaps the world’s fastest rental car lookalike. No, I’m not counting the Corvette ZHZ. Although the drivetrain separates this car from what your neighbor’s daughter wrecked after her forever boyfriend found his forever boyfriend, it’s almost identical to the Florida-spec rental models. I’d debadge it, install a smaller pulley with a tune, put on some non-descript cheapo wheels and go Hellcat hunting.

    (Suggested by Arrivederci)

    7. 2010 BMW M5

    Just because this BMW E60 M5 has an incredibly complex and high strung engine doesn’t mean that the formula for heart-stopping power can’t be stupid simple. I’ll let mjensenwv explain:

    An E60 M5 has you at 500 hp and 400 pounds less than a challenger. Can be had for $30k in good order. For an additional $10k you can throw an ESS system on there, good for 650 ponies. Use the remaining $20k for stickers and shit.

    (Suggested by mjensenwv)

    6. 2011 Suzuki Hayabusa

    Yes, I’m aware that this isn’t technically a car. It’s in here anyway because, as my favorite philosopher Kirsten Dunst once said, “This isn’t a cheerocracy, this is a cheertatorship.”

    While I’m not much of a bike guy because my first and last ride ended up with me in a fence, I have to admire the sheer speed that a bone stock motorcycle can deliver. I’ll let themanwithsauce explain:

    Actual entry- 2 wheels good. Hayabusa is the gold standard of the 200hp bike club. Might not be the fastest of fastest of the fastest but it’ll run right up to 180+ and do more with mods and upgrades. Here’s a STOCK example for 8300. Faster than a challenger in a straight line all day, every day. Plus there’s plenty ofleftover room to modify the bike. They tour well if you don’t get the squid options like a long swingarm and a turbo. Get some bags and some comfy gear and this thing’ll do hundreds of miles at a time. Very, very, VERY quickly.

    (Suggested by themanwithsauce)

    5. 2006 Mercedes S65 AMG

    This Mercedes S65 AMG is the car that the public seldom talks about because most don’t know it exists, and an even smaller number of folks have been able to take them to their terrifying performance limits. I’ll let dannyzabolotny explain:

    It’s the last of the good looking Mercedes S-class, before they became all sharp and chunky looking with too many damn screens(in my opinion). The engine is a relatively simple 6.0L V12 with twin turbos, generating 604hp stock with 738 ft-lbs of torque. A tune can get it to over 700hp, enabling you to wipe the floor with anything that has “Hellcat” in its name.

    (Suggested by dannyzabolotny)

    4. 2004 Mustang Cobra SVT

    This relatively cheap, rip-roarin’ Mustang Cobra SVT is proof that there’s more than one way to skin a Hellcat. With its stout and throaty engine and ability to take to breathing mods with ease, it’s the used car adversary that might finally be the David to Dodge’s Goliath. I’m John Davis, and you’re watching MotorWeek.

    Here’s the rundown of what you’d need, as explained by MikaelVroom:

    Clean 2004 SVT Cobra: $30K, 3.4L Whipple Supercharger kit: $5700

    On the stock block, bottom end, heads, exhaust manifolds, cats, etc., this setup is capable of 700+hp at 24+psi. Figure another $4300 for installation, dyno tuning, etc., and you’re in Hellcat killing territory for $40k.

    (Suggested by MikaelVroom)

    3. 2010 Nissan GT-R

    This Nissan GT-R makes me want to write an article entitled Why Buy A Hellcat When You Can Liquify Your Organs With Lateral G-Forces For Less?

    Obviously you can crank the boost and acquire a 700+ horsepower a tune for almost no money at all, but even in stock form, this car defies logic and ignores the laws of physics like it’s a Powerball winner’s Facebook messages. It’s an automotive experience unlike any other.

    (Suggested by Patrick Frawley)

    2. Shelby Cobra Factory Five Replica

    This Shelby Cobra Replica made by one of the best kit car makers in the industry can be fitted with almost any insanely overpowered drivetrain you can imagine. With the curb weight of a Higgs-Boson and no roof or reasonable measure of safety, it had an incredible power delivery that was every bit as terrifying as it was record-breaking. Drive one and you’ll get it.

    (Suggested by TSJC)

    1. 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1

    This Chevrolet Corvette ZR1> is less practical than the Hellcat and it’s probably a little more pricey if you get into a fender bender. However, it’s one of the best looking, sounding and performing Corvettes ever made.

    Despite a lower horsepower figure, it’ll keep pace with a Hellcat and with some cash breathed into its 6.2 liter supercharged V8, it can be the overwhelming, cup-runneth-over handful that you always wanted but never had the nerve to actually purchase. Well, here’s your chance.



    AND A FIERO WITH A V8 GOTDAMMIT!!!

    I almost posted this myself, but changed my mind at the last second.

    Truthfully, supercharged and turbocharged 3800 Fieros have been the thing these days and they'll eat up a Hellcat.



  • konceptjoneskonceptjones Old School Playa Posts: 11,322 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The AMG Koncept posted is badass, but you have to get it knowing its going to be a money pit since its out of warranty and a freaking Mercedes.

    Fam... you do know the Charger and Challenger have Mercedes parts, right?

    A well maintained Mercedes can give you years without any trouble. Yes the parts can be expensive, but consider you may go a decade without anything more than basic maintenance with one it's pretty well worth it.

    ... Also, the 2005-2006 CL65 AMG uses the same twin turbo V12 but has two fewer doors if you're the type to like coupes over sedans. If you can't find a CL65 AMG, the CL600 is also a twin turbo V12, but with about 500hp stock instead of over 600 for the AMG variant.
  • wilberdmillzwilberdmillz Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The AMG Koncept posted is badass, but you have to get it knowing its going to be a money pit since its out of warranty and a freaking Mercedes.

    Fam... you do know the Charger and Challenger have Mercedes parts, right?

    A well maintained Mercedes can give you years without any trouble. Yes the parts can be expensive, but consider you may go a decade without anything more than basic maintenance with one it's pretty well worth it.

    ... Also, the 2005-2006 CL65 AMG uses the same twin turbo V12 but has two fewer doors if you're the type to like coupes over sedans. If you can't find a CL65 AMG, the CL600 is also a twin turbo V12, but with about 500hp stock instead of over 600 for the AMG variant.

    Yes, I know my car has a Mercedes Chassis. It doesn't have all the electronics the Mercedes has though and thats the main reason people get rid of older foreign cars. Built, high horsepower cars break, and break often. Just part of the game.

    My car was built to handle 425hp reliably, if I build it to make 707 I'll need to upgrade the rest of the car to handle the extra power too. That's costly.
  • konceptjoneskonceptjones Old School Playa Posts: 11,322 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The AMG Koncept posted is badass, but you have to get it knowing its going to be a money pit since its out of warranty and a freaking Mercedes.

    Fam... you do know the Charger and Challenger have Mercedes parts, right?

    A well maintained Mercedes can give you years without any trouble. Yes the parts can be expensive, but consider you may go a decade without anything more than basic maintenance with one it's pretty well worth it.

    ... Also, the 2005-2006 CL65 AMG uses the same twin turbo V12 but has two fewer doors if you're the type to like coupes over sedans. If you can't find a CL65 AMG, the CL600 is also a twin turbo V12, but with about 500hp stock instead of over 600 for the AMG variant.

    Yes, I know my car has a Mercedes Chassis. It doesn't have all the electronics the Mercedes has though and thats the main reason people get rid of older foreign cars. Built, high horsepower cars break, and break often. Just part of the game.

    My car was built to handle 425hp reliably, if I build it to make 707 I'll need to upgrade the rest of the car to handle the extra power too. That's costly.

    Electronics are one thing you don't have to worry about when buying a Merc from 00+. Truthfully you don't have it as an issue going as far back as the late 80's.

    The CL65 AMG is still kinda pricey at about $30k-$40k which is why I brought up the CL600. The CL600 from 2002 on up has a twin turbo V12 and there are mods for it that will take it into low 11 sec, high 10 sec territory. The best part? The 2002-2006 CL600's are running about $10k in excellent condition. The thing about these Mercs is that they're already built to take a shitload of hp/torque so aside from engine mods there's nothing else to do to get it down the strip in low 11's.
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