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Colin Kaepernick refuses “to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people”...

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  • stringer bellstringer bell Posts: 24,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/11/49ers-safety-disputes-nfls-ability-to-require-players-to-stand-for-anthem/
    49ers safety disputes whether NFL has ability to require players to stand for anthem

    SANTA CLARA — 49ers safety Eric Reid believes any potential amendment to NFL rules that would require players to stand for the national anthem would have to be negotiated with the players association.

    NFL owners are reportedly planning to discuss the issue at their scheduled fall meeting next week. At present, the league’s policy only encourages players to stand for the anthem.

    “As far as I know, that would have to be something that’s collectively bargained,” Reid said Wednesday when asked about a potential vote by the owners. “I’m not sure if they can do that, but I guess we’ll find out soon.”
    As first reported by ESPN on Tuesday, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell sent a letter to all 32 teams saying in part that, “Like many of our fans, we believe that everyone should stand for the National Anthem. It is an important moment in our game. We want to honor our flag and our country, and our fans expect that of us.

    “We also care deeply about our players and respect their opinions and concerns about critical social issues. The controversy over the Anthem is a barrier to having honest conversations and making real progress on the underlying issues. We need to move past this controversy, and we want to do that together with our players.”

    Some NFL owners showed solidarity with players in one form or another the weekend of Sept. 24, two days after explosive comments by Trump, who used inflammatory language and said owners should fire players who do not stand for the anthem.

    Reid said he’s had discussions with 49ers owner Jed York “and he’s expressed very clearly that that he wants to support us, that he’s not going to force us to do anything.

    “Speaking for our team, that’s what he’s told me explicitly.”

    Reid did not know if York had told other 49ers players the same thing. Pressure has escalated from the White House and President Donald Trump, who tweeted Wednesday “It is about time that Roger Goodell of the NFL is finally demanding that all players STAND for our great National Anthem-RESPECT OUR COUNTRY”

    A league spokesman told NFL.com on Wednesday that it has no plans to mandate players stand for the national anthem, adding that “commentary this morning about the Commissioner’s position on the Anthem is not accurate. The NFL is doing the hard work of trying to move from protest to progress, working to bring people together.”

    Reid has consistently said his and the actions of other NFL players’ are not meant to disrespect the anthem, the flag or the U.S. military, but feel that the message has been distorted.

    “I was hoping that it wasn’t,” going to shift the tone of the conversation, Reid said, “but I guess, they said it was going to be a one week thing when they did it. I expected it.”

    The emotionally charged issue has been brewing for more than a year when it was noticed that former 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick sat down for the national anthem in a preseason game last August to raise awareness of police brutality and racial injustice.

    The following week, Kaepernick was joined by Reid and Eli Harold as all three players took a knee during the anthem. Reid was deeply affected by the shooting death of Alton Sterling by police in his hometown of Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

    Before Sunday’s game against the Colts in Indianapolis, 23 players knelt on the 49ers sideline while all the Colts players stood and locked arms during the anthem. That prompted Vice President Mike Pence to quickly leave Sunday’s game, which Reid dismissed as a publicity stunt.

    “I think we are reaching people, and there’s another handful of people who chose not to hear us. Those people, you can’t change their mind — they’ll never listen to you, you’ll never win with them,” Reid told this newspaper after the 49ers’ 26-23 overtime loss, in which he didn’t play because of a PCL injury.

    “We just need to keep the conversation going. When an opportunity presents itself to elect somebody into office at the state and national level, then we have to take advantage of those opportunities and put people in place who are going to do what we need done to fix these issues.”

    The week before the game against the Colts, the 49ers put forth a new demonstration in which 30 players knelt and others stood behind them with hands on the shoulders of those kneeling. The 49ers ownership has supported players’ rights to protest since last season.

    No 49ers knelt during the national anthem of the first two exhibitions. But then Reid resumed kneeling and about 10 teammates stood around him in support before the more team-wide demonstration two weeks ago.
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    “Every generation has its own evil. But our evil is a different kind of evil — our systems are evil.” - Rev. Nicholas Richards
  • thegreatunknownthegreatunknown Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/11/49ers-safety-disputes-nfls-ability-to-require-players-to-stand-for-anthem/
    49ers safety disputes whether NFL has ability to require players to stand for anthem

    SANTA CLARA — 49ers safety Eric Reid believes any potential amendment to NFL rules that would require players to stand for the national anthem would have to be negotiated with the players association.

    NFL owners are reportedly planning to discuss the issue at their scheduled fall meeting next week. At present, the league’s policy only encourages players to stand for the anthem.

    “As far as I know, that would have to be something that’s collectively bargained,” Reid said Wednesday when asked about a potential vote by the owners. “I’m not sure if they can do that, but I guess we’ll find out soon.”
    As first reported by ESPN on Tuesday, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell sent a letter to all 32 teams saying in part that, “Like many of our fans, we believe that everyone should stand for the National Anthem. It is an important moment in our game. We want to honor our flag and our country, and our fans expect that of us.

    “We also care deeply about our players and respect their opinions and concerns about critical social issues. The controversy over the Anthem is a barrier to having honest conversations and making real progress on the underlying issues. We need to move past this controversy, and we want to do that together with our players.”

    Some NFL owners showed solidarity with players in one form or another the weekend of Sept. 24, two days after explosive comments by Trump, who used inflammatory language and said owners should fire players who do not stand for the anthem.

    Reid said he’s had discussions with 49ers owner Jed York “and he’s expressed very clearly that that he wants to support us, that he’s not going to force us to do anything.

    “Speaking for our team, that’s what he’s told me explicitly.”

    Reid did not know if York had told other 49ers players the same thing. Pressure has escalated from the White House and President Donald Trump, who tweeted Wednesday “It is about time that Roger Goodell of the NFL is finally demanding that all players STAND for our great National Anthem-RESPECT OUR COUNTRY”

    A league spokesman told NFL.com on Wednesday that it has no plans to mandate players stand for the national anthem, adding that “commentary this morning about the Commissioner’s position on the Anthem is not accurate. The NFL is doing the hard work of trying to move from protest to progress, working to bring people together.”

    Reid has consistently said his and the actions of other NFL players’ are not meant to disrespect the anthem, the flag or the U.S. military, but feel that the message has been distorted.

    “I was hoping that it wasn’t,” going to shift the tone of the conversation, Reid said, “but I guess, they said it was going to be a one week thing when they did it. I expected it.”

    The emotionally charged issue has been brewing for more than a year when it was noticed that former 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick sat down for the national anthem in a preseason game last August to raise awareness of police brutality and racial injustice.

    The following week, Kaepernick was joined by Reid and Eli Harold as all three players took a knee during the anthem. Reid was deeply affected by the shooting death of Alton Sterling by police in his hometown of Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

    Before Sunday’s game against the Colts in Indianapolis, 23 players knelt on the 49ers sideline while all the Colts players stood and locked arms during the anthem. That prompted Vice President Mike Pence to quickly leave Sunday’s game, which Reid dismissed as a publicity stunt.

    “I think we are reaching people, and there’s another handful of people who chose not to hear us. Those people, you can’t change their mind — they’ll never listen to you, you’ll never win with them,” Reid told this newspaper after the 49ers’ 26-23 overtime loss, in which he didn’t play because of a PCL injury.

    “We just need to keep the conversation going. When an opportunity presents itself to elect somebody into office at the state and national level, then we have to take advantage of those opportunities and put people in place who are going to do what we need done to fix these issues.”

    The week before the game against the Colts, the 49ers put forth a new demonstration in which 30 players knelt and others stood behind them with hands on the shoulders of those kneeling. The 49ers ownership has supported players’ rights to protest since last season.

    No 49ers knelt during the national anthem of the first two exhibitions. But then Reid resumed kneeling and about 10 teammates stood around him in support before the more team-wide demonstration two weeks ago.

    I believe Eric Reid is correct here, but the NFLPA has shown itself to be weak. They couldn't collectively bargain to amend the suspension rule to take the power out of Goddell's hands on any appeal, its doubtful that if a rule is changed the union will be able to stop the owners.

    The question that needs to be asked here, is whether the players are willing to risk their livelihoods in order to prevent such a rule from being propagated?
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  • ineedpussyineedpussy long hair dont care but bald head dont give a fuck! Posts: 7,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    wasnt fritz one of the first black head coaches in the league
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    Shannon sharpe has like 10 civil suits from bitchws n restraining orders Lmaol
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    You post a lotta fake news, dummy
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    I see a lot of people saying they'd "give" family members money.

    Thats not what you want to do.

    You want to set up a trust fund so they get a monthly payment. You can set up a trust fund so your mother gets, say, $10,000 a month for the rest of her life. According to my math, $10,000 per month for 20 years is $2.4 million. That's better than giving her $2.4 million up front because she can blow it all in a matter of days and then she'll want more and you'd feel obligated to give it to her.

    So if you win, don't "give" anybody anything. Set up a trust fund.

    Now that I think about it, I could set up a trust fund for my brother. I'd give him $10,000 a month. He's about 45 now so $10,000 per month for 40 years is only $4.8 million. That makes more sense than giving him the money in one lump sum.

    AggyAF wrote: »
    Anyone else think it's crazy only about 10 posters regularly post here and we got damn near 500 pages?

    All the other sports threads on here are people with hobbies. This is football - the beautiful game. We eat, sleep and drink football.

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  • stringer bellstringer bell Posts: 24,740 ✭✭✭✭✭


    https://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-uses-presidential-weekly-address-to-go-after-nfl-players-again-for-not-respecting-our-flag/
    President Trump isn’t done criticizing NFL players for kneeling during the national anthem. Now he’s taking his criticism to the Presidential Weekly Address.

    The President talks about the history behind the American flag and says, “Every day millions of American citizens raise it, salute it, and honor it on the home front.”

    And then he gets around to the protesting players:

    Before watching a football game, you want to see those players be proud of their country. Respect our country. Respect our flag. And respect our national anthem and we think they will. We certainly hope they will.”
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  • playmaker88playmaker88 Boy, I tell you that's vision Like Tony Romo when he hitting Witten Posts: 67,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    SMDH...
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  • stringer bellstringer bell Posts: 24,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/oklahoma-cop-gets-social-media-counseling-slap-on-the-wrist-for-racist-facebook-threat-against-nfl-players/
    Oklahoma cop busted for racist Facebook threat against NFL players

    A part-time police officer in Oklahoma will spared punishment and instead receive “social media counseling” after threatening protesting NFL players on Facebook.

    According to News on 6, Verdigris police officer Brandon Jarvis launched a racist attack on professional football players who have protested anti-black police brutality by kneeling during the national anthem.

    Writing on Facebook, Jarvis threatened, “Precisely why I don’t watch NFL bunch of f*ckin overpaid greasy headed moon crickets expecting everything for nothing!! It would make my day to b*tch slap the Jerry juice outta everyone of them’s hair!! F*ck em!! #sorrynotf*ckinsorry”

    Alerted to the post, which Jarvis wrote when commenting on hockey players standing for the anthem, Police Chief Jack Shackleford said that the officer would not be suspended.

    According to Shackleford, Jarvis will instead receive “some personal counseling by me in the use of social media.”


    “If he is saying that his account was hacked, I don’t have any evidence to substantiate either claim,” Shackelford said in a statement.

    “Good” part-time cops…
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