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Tupac Biopic "All Eyez On Me"

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  • 5 Grand5 Grand Posts: 11,839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    5 Grand wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    Nah b. That shit wasn't no movie just re-enactments. No back stories or private conversations that we were not already privy to. No introspection inside the mind of Pac. No background on showing him and biggie as friends. It was decent I'd say 6/10 and that's being generous as me as a fan of his music.

    I'm a little confused at when you said there was no introspection in his mind? Didn't the movie show a lot of what 2pac thought about life, especially when it comes to some of his contradictions?

    And his friendship with Biggie took up a good size of the movie, they were shown hanging at parties and even on a movie set. Even showed how Biggie tried to visit Pac in the hospital. I do agree I wish they could have gone into more detail when it comes to those things.

    So you do agree? I'm not about to pour syrup on shit and call it pancakes. The interview in jail that took up half the movie flashing back? That was self explanation. Whoever was seriously in charge of this shit could not have been a true Pac supporter. How you gonna have Pac talking about finishing up his obligations at death-row but then suge punks him into taking death-row east and staying? Puffy made sure his character was non existant. The outlawz managed to play themselves 20 years after the fact? It was a synopsis, this happened then that happened then this happened. No real insight as far as making hit em up, probably the most controversial song of Pac's career. I can go on but like I said its ok, its watchable.

    The Outlawz cosigned this movie, which to me is a big thing, but the whole Deathrow East thing is something Pac seemed to be enthusiastic about. Pac was complex, yeah he did talk about leaving Death Row after his 3 albums was up but he still had some loyalty to Suge and his crew. Look at how Pac acted in Vegas, he was in deep with Deathrow. Idi Amin and the others still look KINDA young, so them playing themselves didn't bother me too much.

    I do feel what you're saying about Hit Em Up, I definitely wish they got into more background on that. But maybe the director assumed most of us knew the whole story about why the beef began, we all pretty much know why 2pac had beef with Biggie already.

    Man the outlawz cosigned that check. Straight up. I ain't mad at em tho. Get ya money but they was lil niggas at the time and I know its a lot of conversations held that they wasn't around for especially between Pac and suge. I feel like suge is the only person that could honestly say what Pac was like on death row from a behind the scenes standpoint and right now that's impossible.

    Maybe lol, what did you think of Suge's portrayal in the movie? I thought that was one of the better parts of the film IMO.

    I thought he was convincing as a bully which he may have been according to most people close to that situation, but suge also was a likeable guy which didn't make the movie. Also Pac and suge was homies, to the point where some of the other artist started to feel pushed to the side because of suge's admiration for Pac. Suge liked that firey side of Pac and they talked about moving these distributors out the game on some total takeover shit.

    I agree, except I did find Suge to be likable, at least in the beginning. When Pac was stuck in jail, unable to make bail, Suge came in like a knight in shining armor, promising I think 3 million and a house? Either way, I did like that part about Suge, I found him likable from the perspective of him doing what he could for Pac and helping him with his financial problems. Pac was maybe a legend already by the time he was in Rikers, I'm still shocked no one except Suge was willing to bail him out. At least that's what the movie shows.

    @ the bolded. Nobody wanted to bail him out because of all his legal troubles. He was always getting arrested or going to court for one reason or another. Who needs the headache?

    And when its all said and done, Suge didn't get his money's worth. Pac was on Death Row for about 6 months before he died and Suge went to jail. By the time he got out of jail Death Row was over. From what I understand Suge had to sell Death Row to pay for his personal legal problems.

    Yeah I get what you're saying, it's tragic Pac got into a lot of those situations back in the day. I'm sure some of those situations weren't his fault, but I'm sure some of them were. Ironically, Pac would have probably been arrested again after the Vegas incident, I'm still grateful for the music he dropped from Death Row though. In all likelihood he would have only gotten better and likely save Death Row in the process, as Makaveli showed he wasn't slowing down. Damn shame.

    Judging by the way him and his crew jumped Orlando Anderson he wouldn't have lasted long even if he didn't get killed that night. Also, he was out on bail, that casino incident might have put him back in prison.
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  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 29
    AP21 wrote: »
    yo kingblaze

    which one are you

    Benny Boom or LT Hutton?

    Lol why can't I just be a fan who likes the movie? Not 100% happy with it but I think it's one of the best movies I've seen this year.
  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    5 Grand wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    Nah b. That shit wasn't no movie just re-enactments. No back stories or private conversations that we were not already privy to. No introspection inside the mind of Pac. No background on showing him and biggie as friends. It was decent I'd say 6/10 and that's being generous as me as a fan of his music.

    I'm a little confused at when you said there was no introspection in his mind? Didn't the movie show a lot of what 2pac thought about life, especially when it comes to some of his contradictions?

    And his friendship with Biggie took up a good size of the movie, they were shown hanging at parties and even on a movie set. Even showed how Biggie tried to visit Pac in the hospital. I do agree I wish they could have gone into more detail when it comes to those things.

    So you do agree? I'm not about to pour syrup on shit and call it pancakes. The interview in jail that took up half the movie flashing back? That was self explanation. Whoever was seriously in charge of this shit could not have been a true Pac supporter. How you gonna have Pac talking about finishing up his obligations at death-row but then suge punks him into taking death-row east and staying? Puffy made sure his character was non existant. The outlawz managed to play themselves 20 years after the fact? It was a synopsis, this happened then that happened then this happened. No real insight as far as making hit em up, probably the most controversial song of Pac's career. I can go on but like I said its ok, its watchable.

    The Outlawz cosigned this movie, which to me is a big thing, but the whole Deathrow East thing is something Pac seemed to be enthusiastic about. Pac was complex, yeah he did talk about leaving Death Row after his 3 albums was up but he still had some loyalty to Suge and his crew. Look at how Pac acted in Vegas, he was in deep with Deathrow. Idi Amin and the others still look KINDA young, so them playing themselves didn't bother me too much.

    I do feel what you're saying about Hit Em Up, I definitely wish they got into more background on that. But maybe the director assumed most of us knew the whole story about why the beef began, we all pretty much know why 2pac had beef with Biggie already.

    Man the outlawz cosigned that check. Straight up. I ain't mad at em tho. Get ya money but they was lil niggas at the time and I know its a lot of conversations held that they wasn't around for especially between Pac and suge. I feel like suge is the only person that could honestly say what Pac was like on death row from a behind the scenes standpoint and right now that's impossible.

    Maybe lol, what did you think of Suge's portrayal in the movie? I thought that was one of the better parts of the film IMO.

    I thought he was convincing as a bully which he may have been according to most people close to that situation, but suge also was a likeable guy which didn't make the movie. Also Pac and suge was homies, to the point where some of the other artist started to feel pushed to the side because of suge's admiration for Pac. Suge liked that firey side of Pac and they talked about moving these distributors out the game on some total takeover shit.

    I agree, except I did find Suge to be likable, at least in the beginning. When Pac was stuck in jail, unable to make bail, Suge came in like a knight in shining armor, promising I think 3 million and a house? Either way, I did like that part about Suge, I found him likable from the perspective of him doing what he could for Pac and helping him with his financial problems. Pac was maybe a legend already by the time he was in Rikers, I'm still shocked no one except Suge was willing to bail him out. At least that's what the movie shows.

    @ the bolded. Nobody wanted to bail him out because of all his legal troubles. He was always getting arrested or going to court for one reason or another. Who needs the headache?

    And when its all said and done, Suge didn't get his money's worth. Pac was on Death Row for about 6 months before he died and Suge went to jail. By the time he got out of jail Death Row was over. From what I understand Suge had to sell Death Row to pay for his personal legal problems.

    Yeah I get what you're saying, it's tragic Pac got into a lot of those situations back in the day. I'm sure some of those situations weren't his fault, but I'm sure some of them were. Ironically, Pac would have probably been arrested again after the Vegas incident, I'm still grateful for the music he dropped from Death Row though. In all likelihood he would have only gotten better and likely save Death Row in the process, as Makaveli showed he wasn't slowing down. Damn shame.

    Judging by the way him and his crew jumped Orlando Anderson he wouldn't have lasted long even if he didn't get killed that night. Also, he was out on bail, that casino incident might have put him back in prison.

    He was out on bail at the time of the Vegas incident? For what? I thought he (mostly) stayed out of trouble after the prison time for the NY thing. Do you mean he was on probation?
  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 29
    I might get hate for saying this but I think the woman who played Afeni Shakur should be considered for a Golden Globe or Oscar. Not saying she should win, but at least considered.
    harry knucklez
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    She's a great actress. I only seen her in walking dead but she's great there. Now that I think about it, I wouldn't mind seeing her in a threesome scene
    harry knucklezStewDarthRozay
  • 5 Grand5 Grand Posts: 11,839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    5 Grand wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    Nah b. That shit wasn't no movie just re-enactments. No back stories or private conversations that we were not already privy to. No introspection inside the mind of Pac. No background on showing him and biggie as friends. It was decent I'd say 6/10 and that's being generous as me as a fan of his music.

    I'm a little confused at when you said there was no introspection in his mind? Didn't the movie show a lot of what 2pac thought about life, especially when it comes to some of his contradictions?

    And his friendship with Biggie took up a good size of the movie, they were shown hanging at parties and even on a movie set. Even showed how Biggie tried to visit Pac in the hospital. I do agree I wish they could have gone into more detail when it comes to those things.

    So you do agree? I'm not about to pour syrup on shit and call it pancakes. The interview in jail that took up half the movie flashing back? That was self explanation. Whoever was seriously in charge of this shit could not have been a true Pac supporter. How you gonna have Pac talking about finishing up his obligations at death-row but then suge punks him into taking death-row east and staying? Puffy made sure his character was non existant. The outlawz managed to play themselves 20 years after the fact? It was a synopsis, this happened then that happened then this happened. No real insight as far as making hit em up, probably the most controversial song of Pac's career. I can go on but like I said its ok, its watchable.

    The Outlawz cosigned this movie, which to me is a big thing, but the whole Deathrow East thing is something Pac seemed to be enthusiastic about. Pac was complex, yeah he did talk about leaving Death Row after his 3 albums was up but he still had some loyalty to Suge and his crew. Look at how Pac acted in Vegas, he was in deep with Deathrow. Idi Amin and the others still look KINDA young, so them playing themselves didn't bother me too much.

    I do feel what you're saying about Hit Em Up, I definitely wish they got into more background on that. But maybe the director assumed most of us knew the whole story about why the beef began, we all pretty much know why 2pac had beef with Biggie already.

    Man the outlawz cosigned that check. Straight up. I ain't mad at em tho. Get ya money but they was lil niggas at the time and I know its a lot of conversations held that they wasn't around for especially between Pac and suge. I feel like suge is the only person that could honestly say what Pac was like on death row from a behind the scenes standpoint and right now that's impossible.

    Maybe lol, what did you think of Suge's portrayal in the movie? I thought that was one of the better parts of the film IMO.

    I thought he was convincing as a bully which he may have been according to most people close to that situation, but suge also was a likeable guy which didn't make the movie. Also Pac and suge was homies, to the point where some of the other artist started to feel pushed to the side because of suge's admiration for Pac. Suge liked that firey side of Pac and they talked about moving these distributors out the game on some total takeover shit.

    I agree, except I did find Suge to be likable, at least in the beginning. When Pac was stuck in jail, unable to make bail, Suge came in like a knight in shining armor, promising I think 3 million and a house? Either way, I did like that part about Suge, I found him likable from the perspective of him doing what he could for Pac and helping him with his financial problems. Pac was maybe a legend already by the time he was in Rikers, I'm still shocked no one except Suge was willing to bail him out. At least that's what the movie shows.

    @ the bolded. Nobody wanted to bail him out because of all his legal troubles. He was always getting arrested or going to court for one reason or another. Who needs the headache?

    And when its all said and done, Suge didn't get his money's worth. Pac was on Death Row for about 6 months before he died and Suge went to jail. By the time he got out of jail Death Row was over. From what I understand Suge had to sell Death Row to pay for his personal legal problems.

    Yeah I get what you're saying, it's tragic Pac got into a lot of those situations back in the day. I'm sure some of those situations weren't his fault, but I'm sure some of them were. Ironically, Pac would have probably been arrested again after the Vegas incident, I'm still grateful for the music he dropped from Death Row though. In all likelihood he would have only gotten better and likely save Death Row in the process, as Makaveli showed he wasn't slowing down. Damn shame.

    Judging by the way him and his crew jumped Orlando Anderson he wouldn't have lasted long even if he didn't get killed that night. Also, he was out on bail, that casino incident might have put him back in prison.

    He was out on bail at the time of the Vegas incident? For what? I thought he (mostly) stayed out of trouble after the prison time for the NY thing. Do you mean he was on probation?

    His verse on California Love goes,

    "Out on bail fresh outta jail, California dreaming
    Soon as I stepped on the scene, I'm hearing hoochie's screaming"


    As far as I understand it, his legal team filed an appeal and the case was going to trial again. He could have been found guilty again and gone back to jail.

    I don't know exactly how the law works but jumping Orlando Anderson in that casino was probably a violation of the terms of his bail. He would have gone back to jail until the second trial.
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  • Soloman_The_WiseSoloman_The_Wise The Make It Happen Man... Puget SoundPosts: 2,732 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 29
    5 Grand wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    Nah b. That shit wasn't no movie just re-enactments. No back stories or private conversations that we were not already privy to. No introspection inside the mind of Pac. No background on showing him and biggie as friends. It was decent I'd say 6/10 and that's being generous as me as a fan of his music.

    I'm a little confused at when you said there was no introspection in his mind? Didn't the movie show a lot of what 2pac thought about life, especially when it comes to some of his contradictions?

    And his friendship with Biggie took up a good size of the movie, they were shown hanging at parties and even on a movie set. Even showed how Biggie tried to visit Pac in the hospital. I do agree I wish they could have gone into more detail when it comes to those things.

    So you do agree? I'm not about to pour syrup on shit and call it pancakes. The interview in jail that took up half the movie flashing back? That was self explanation. Whoever was seriously in charge of this shit could not have been a true Pac supporter. How you gonna have Pac talking about finishing up his obligations at death-row but then suge punks him into taking death-row east and staying? Puffy made sure his character was non existant. The outlawz managed to play themselves 20 years after the fact? It was a synopsis, this happened then that happened then this happened. No real insight as far as making hit em up, probably the most controversial song of Pac's career. I can go on but like I said its ok, its watchable.

    The Outlawz cosigned this movie, which to me is a big thing, but the whole Deathrow East thing is something Pac seemed to be enthusiastic about. Pac was complex, yeah he did talk about leaving Death Row after his 3 albums was up but he still had some loyalty to Suge and his crew. Look at how Pac acted in Vegas, he was in deep with Deathrow. Idi Amin and the others still look KINDA young, so them playing themselves didn't bother me too much.

    I do feel what you're saying about Hit Em Up, I definitely wish they got into more background on that. But maybe the director assumed most of us knew the whole story about why the beef began, we all pretty much know why 2pac had beef with Biggie already.

    Man the outlawz cosigned that check. Straight up. I ain't mad at em tho. Get ya money but they was lil niggas at the time and I know its a lot of conversations held that they wasn't around for especially between Pac and suge. I feel like suge is the only person that could honestly say what Pac was like on death row from a behind the scenes standpoint and right now that's impossible.

    Maybe lol, what did you think of Suge's portrayal in the movie? I thought that was one of the better parts of the film IMO.

    I thought he was convincing as a bully which he may have been according to most people close to that situation, but suge also was a likeable guy which didn't make the movie. Also Pac and suge was homies, to the point where some of the other artist started to feel pushed to the side because of suge's admiration for Pac. Suge liked that firey side of Pac and they talked about moving these distributors out the game on some total takeover shit.

    I agree, except I did find Suge to be likable, at least in the beginning. When Pac was stuck in jail, unable to make bail, Suge came in like a knight in shining armor, promising I think 3 million and a house? Either way, I did like that part about Suge, I found him likable from the perspective of him doing what he could for Pac and helping him with his financial problems. Pac was maybe a legend already by the time he was in Rikers, I'm still shocked no one except Suge was willing to bail him out. At least that's what the movie shows.

    @ the bolded. Nobody wanted to bail him out because of all his legal troubles. He was always getting arrested or going to court for one reason or another. Who needs the headache?

    And when its all said and done, Suge didn't get his money's worth. Pac was on Death Row for about 6 months before he died and Suge went to jail. By the time he got out of jail Death Row was over. From what I understand Suge had to sell Death Row to pay for his personal legal problems.

    Yeah I get what you're saying, it's tragic Pac got into a lot of those situations back in the day. I'm sure some of those situations weren't his fault, but I'm sure some of them were. Ironically, Pac would have probably been arrested again after the Vegas incident, I'm still grateful for the music he dropped from Death Row though. In all likelihood he would have only gotten better and likely save Death Row in the process, as Makaveli showed he wasn't slowing down. Damn shame.

    Judging by the way him and his crew jumped Orlando Anderson he wouldn't have lasted long even if he didn't get killed that night. Also, he was out on bail, that casino incident might have put him back in prison.

    He was out on bail at the time of the Vegas incident? For what? I thought he (mostly) stayed out of trouble after the prison time for the NY thing. Do you mean he was on probation?

    He was appealing his sexual assault conviction and granted bail as the case against him was weak and likely to overturned...
    The world Don't Understand Me, We are Living in Insanity, When I speak Profanity, It helps me Feed My Family, They Try and Banish Me, Because they Fear what I say, Spit Knowledge to the youth, Truth shows another way...

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    "I'm not a drug dealer but, I'm cool with alot of street niggas...
    cause they respect the fact that I'm real with them, I'm not trying to be something I ain't.
    I'm cool with alot of street niggas here too cause, I come off as just being me and when I see them I holla and keep it moving. That's what's wrong with everybody now, they make being a gangsta or thug as the benchmark of being real. U know what's real, a nigga working a 9 to 5, busting his ass everyday without having to break a law."

    The world Don't Understand Me, We are Living in Insanity, When I speak Profanity, It helps me Feed My Family, They Try and Banish Me, Because they Fear what I say, Spit Knowledge to the youth, Truth shows a better way...

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  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    5 Grand wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    Nah b. That shit wasn't no movie just re-enactments. No back stories or private conversations that we were not already privy to. No introspection inside the mind of Pac. No background on showing him and biggie as friends. It was decent I'd say 6/10 and that's being generous as me as a fan of his music.

    I'm a little confused at when you said there was no introspection in his mind? Didn't the movie show a lot of what 2pac thought about life, especially when it comes to some of his contradictions?

    And his friendship with Biggie took up a good size of the movie, they were shown hanging at parties and even on a movie set. Even showed how Biggie tried to visit Pac in the hospital. I do agree I wish they could have gone into more detail when it comes to those things.

    So you do agree? I'm not about to pour syrup on shit and call it pancakes. The interview in jail that took up half the movie flashing back? That was self explanation. Whoever was seriously in charge of this shit could not have been a true Pac supporter. How you gonna have Pac talking about finishing up his obligations at death-row but then suge punks him into taking death-row east and staying? Puffy made sure his character was non existant. The outlawz managed to play themselves 20 years after the fact? It was a synopsis, this happened then that happened then this happened. No real insight as far as making hit em up, probably the most controversial song of Pac's career. I can go on but like I said its ok, its watchable.

    The Outlawz cosigned this movie, which to me is a big thing, but the whole Deathrow East thing is something Pac seemed to be enthusiastic about. Pac was complex, yeah he did talk about leaving Death Row after his 3 albums was up but he still had some loyalty to Suge and his crew. Look at how Pac acted in Vegas, he was in deep with Deathrow. Idi Amin and the others still look KINDA young, so them playing themselves didn't bother me too much.

    I do feel what you're saying about Hit Em Up, I definitely wish they got into more background on that. But maybe the director assumed most of us knew the whole story about why the beef began, we all pretty much know why 2pac had beef with Biggie already.

    Man the outlawz cosigned that check. Straight up. I ain't mad at em tho. Get ya money but they was lil niggas at the time and I know its a lot of conversations held that they wasn't around for especially between Pac and suge. I feel like suge is the only person that could honestly say what Pac was like on death row from a behind the scenes standpoint and right now that's impossible.

    Maybe lol, what did you think of Suge's portrayal in the movie? I thought that was one of the better parts of the film IMO.

    I thought he was convincing as a bully which he may have been according to most people close to that situation, but suge also was a likeable guy which didn't make the movie. Also Pac and suge was homies, to the point where some of the other artist started to feel pushed to the side because of suge's admiration for Pac. Suge liked that firey side of Pac and they talked about moving these distributors out the game on some total takeover shit.

    I agree, except I did find Suge to be likable, at least in the beginning. When Pac was stuck in jail, unable to make bail, Suge came in like a knight in shining armor, promising I think 3 million and a house? Either way, I did like that part about Suge, I found him likable from the perspective of him doing what he could for Pac and helping him with his financial problems. Pac was maybe a legend already by the time he was in Rikers, I'm still shocked no one except Suge was willing to bail him out. At least that's what the movie shows.

    @ the bolded. Nobody wanted to bail him out because of all his legal troubles. He was always getting arrested or going to court for one reason or another. Who needs the headache?

    And when its all said and done, Suge didn't get his money's worth. Pac was on Death Row for about 6 months before he died and Suge went to jail. By the time he got out of jail Death Row was over. From what I understand Suge had to sell Death Row to pay for his personal legal problems.

    Yeah I get what you're saying, it's tragic Pac got into a lot of those situations back in the day. I'm sure some of those situations weren't his fault, but I'm sure some of them were. Ironically, Pac would have probably been arrested again after the Vegas incident, I'm still grateful for the music he dropped from Death Row though. In all likelihood he would have only gotten better and likely save Death Row in the process, as Makaveli showed he wasn't slowing down. Damn shame.

    Judging by the way him and his crew jumped Orlando Anderson he wouldn't have lasted long even if he didn't get killed that night. Also, he was out on bail, that casino incident might have put him back in prison.

    He was out on bail at the time of the Vegas incident? For what? I thought he (mostly) stayed out of trouble after the prison time for the NY thing. Do you mean he was on probation?

    He was appealing his sexual assault conviction and granted bail as the case against hi was weak and likely to overturned...

    Oh aight, interesting....
  • kingblaze84kingblaze84 Bronx, NY birthplace of hip-hopPosts: 14,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    5 Grand wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    SELASI_i wrote: »
    Nah b. That shit wasn't no movie just re-enactments. No back stories or private conversations that we were not already privy to. No introspection inside the mind of Pac. No background on showing him and biggie as friends. It was decent I'd say 6/10 and that's being generous as me as a fan of his music.

    I'm a little confused at when you said there was no introspection in his mind? Didn't the movie show a lot of what 2pac thought about life, especially when it comes to some of his contradictions?

    And his friendship with Biggie took up a good size of the movie, they were shown hanging at parties and even on a movie set. Even showed how Biggie tried to visit Pac in the hospital. I do agree I wish they could have gone into more detail when it comes to those things.

    So you do agree? I'm not about to pour syrup on shit and call it pancakes. The interview in jail that took up half the movie flashing back? That was self explanation. Whoever was seriously in charge of this shit could not have been a true Pac supporter. How you gonna have Pac talking about finishing up his obligations at death-row but then suge punks him into taking death-row east and staying? Puffy made sure his character was non existant. The outlawz managed to play themselves 20 years after the fact? It was a synopsis, this happened then that happened then this happened. No real insight as far as making hit em up, probably the most controversial song of Pac's career. I can go on but like I said its ok, its watchable.

    The Outlawz cosigned this movie, which to me is a big thing, but the whole Deathrow East thing is something Pac seemed to be enthusiastic about. Pac was complex, yeah he did talk about leaving Death Row after his 3 albums was up but he still had some loyalty to Suge and his crew. Look at how Pac acted in Vegas, he was in deep with Deathrow. Idi Amin and the others still look KINDA young, so them playing themselves didn't bother me too much.

    I do feel what you're saying about Hit Em Up, I definitely wish they got into more background on that. But maybe the director assumed most of us knew the whole story about why the beef began, we all pretty much know why 2pac had beef with Biggie already.

    Man the outlawz cosigned that check. Straight up. I ain't mad at em tho. Get ya money but they was lil niggas at the time and I know its a lot of conversations held that they wasn't around for especially between Pac and suge. I feel like suge is the only person that could honestly say what Pac was like on death row from a behind the scenes standpoint and right now that's impossible.

    Maybe lol, what did you think of Suge's portrayal in the movie? I thought that was one of the better parts of the film IMO.

    I thought he was convincing as a bully which he may have been according to most people close to that situation, but suge also was a likeable guy which didn't make the movie. Also Pac and suge was homies, to the point where some of the other artist started to feel pushed to the side because of suge's admiration for Pac. Suge liked that firey side of Pac and they talked about moving these distributors out the game on some total takeover shit.

    I agree, except I did find Suge to be likable, at least in the beginning. When Pac was stuck in jail, unable to make bail, Suge came in like a knight in shining armor, promising I think 3 million and a house? Either way, I did like that part about Suge, I found him likable from the perspective of him doing what he could for Pac and helping him with his financial problems. Pac was maybe a legend already by the time he was in Rikers, I'm still shocked no one except Suge was willing to bail him out. At least that's what the movie shows.

    @ the bolded. Nobody wanted to bail him out because of all his legal troubles. He was always getting arrested or going to court for one reason or another. Who needs the headache?

    And when its all said and done, Suge didn't get his money's worth. Pac was on Death Row for about 6 months before he died and Suge went to jail. By the time he got out of jail Death Row was over. From what I understand Suge had to sell Death Row to pay for his personal legal problems.

    Yeah I get what you're saying, it's tragic Pac got into a lot of those situations back in the day. I'm sure some of those situations weren't his fault, but I'm sure some of them were. Ironically, Pac would have probably been arrested again after the Vegas incident, I'm still grateful for the music he dropped from Death Row though. In all likelihood he would have only gotten better and likely save Death Row in the process, as Makaveli showed he wasn't slowing down. Damn shame.

    Judging by the way him and his crew jumped Orlando Anderson he wouldn't have lasted long even if he didn't get killed that night. Also, he was out on bail, that casino incident might have put him back in prison.

    He was out on bail at the time of the Vegas incident? For what? I thought he (mostly) stayed out of trouble after the prison time for the NY thing. Do you mean he was on probation?

    His verse on California Love goes,

    "Out on bail fresh outta jail, California dreaming
    Soon as I stepped on the scene, I'm hearing hoochie's screaming"


    As far as I understand it, his legal team filed an appeal and the case was going to trial again. He could have been found guilty again and gone back to jail.

    I don't know exactly how the law works but jumping Orlando Anderson in that casino was probably a violation of the terms of his bail. He would have gone back to jail until the second trial.

    Considering how the feds were keeping a close eye on 2pac, I think it's safe to say he would have gone to jail again for what happened at the casino, unless some of his people would take the fall for him.

    2pac was a rider to a fault.
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  • WeazelWeazel Posts: 3,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    THE_R_ wrote: »
    I FEEL LIKE EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT "2PAC STORY" & REMEMBER HIM VERY DIFFERENTLY.
    ALL THE STORIES WE HEAR AREN'T REALLY CONSISTANT.
    THAT ALONE MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO PUT TOGETHER A 2PAC MOVIE.

    ALSO, I'M NOT INTERESTED AT ALL IN A 2PAC BIOPIC OR MOST HIP-HOP BIOPICS IN GENERAL.

    TUPAC RESURRECTION I FEEL WAS THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT HIS LEGACY & WE SHOULD REALLY JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

    STOP SCREAMING MY DUDE, lol
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  • IceBergTaylorIceBergTaylor The Spectacular Posts: 19,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This movie was not as bad as people made it out to be. I think you have to approach this with low expectations. I'm not sure what the issue here is. People were expecting this Oscar worthy super movie lmao. Everything was cool with me obviously except for the parts that we know was strictly for "hollywood purposes." Dude who played Tupac was A1
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  • StewStew Rap Music Is My Religion We run this spot like a Chinese sweatshopPosts: 51,263 Regulator
    This movie was not as bad as people made it out to be. I think you have to approach this with low expectations. I'm not sure what the issue here is. People were expecting this Oscar worthy super movie lmao. Everything was cool with me obviously except for the parts that we know was strictly for "hollywood purposes." Dude who played Tupac was A1

    That's an issue with a movie about Tupac unless u were just a casual fan or weren't around for his days.
  • IceBergTaylorIceBergTaylor The Spectacular Posts: 19,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stew wrote: »
    This movie was not as bad as people made it out to be. I think you have to approach this with low expectations. I'm not sure what the issue here is. People were expecting this Oscar worthy super movie lmao. Everything was cool with me obviously except for the parts that we know was strictly for "hollywood purposes." Dude who played Tupac was A1

    That's an issue with a movie about Tupac unless u were just a casual fan or weren't around for his days.

    I understand that but the expectations for a movie about PAC was always gonna be unreasonably high. It's like you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Had this been a bigger budget film, maybe those expectations are bigger. It is what it is. It's not a terrible movie. I enjoyed it a little
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  • Karl.Karl. Posts: 7,923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is it as bad as the trailer makes it seem?
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  • RickyRichRickyRich almighty ricky rich Posts: 11,712 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pac had a some money for bail
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  • SELASI_iSELASI_i DARK VEDA KCPosts: 2,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shit was a money grab. You can't tell me the 40 mil budget was totally invested in this film. I saw a review where some guys said that time always plays a big role in biopics meaning that the amount of time that the person the movie is about has been removed from the situation helps the film. Like with ray (even though he was alive in the beginning stages to help Jamie Foxx out) because most of ray"s faults were commited earlier in his life it gave them the freedom to delve deeper since they were not fresh wounds. With Pac some of the real meat and potatoes behind the story may open up some wounds and paint some people in a bad light (they have no prob doing it to suge tho since his perception is established) and that might put some people in some situations they don't want to be in. They obviously tried to avoid stepping on anybody's toes in the industry.
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  • 5 Grand5 Grand Posts: 11,839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unless there's a lot of special effects and car crashes $40 mil should be more than enough.
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  • SELASI_iSELASI_i DARK VEDA KCPosts: 2,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Unless there's a lot of special effects and car crashes $40 mil should be more than enough.

    That 40 mil didn't make it to that movie I'll tell you that
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    This is the John Singleton script with the Afeni lesbian scene, and the alleged rape scene.

    I do not read that as a rape scene just a scene where some Kats want to claim having beat up the star and the guards being on some prehistoric form of Blue Lives Matter setup for Homie who shot 2 cops.Nor is there any reference to the pawg dookie shoot scene..
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  • MARIO_DROMARIO_DRO Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MAN, I JUST SAW THE MOVIE,

    I DNT KNOW WHY ALLLL THE HATE, BUT THAT WAS A GOOD ASS MOVIE..

    DUDE THAT PLAYED PAC WAS GREAT, ONLY THING I DIDN'T LIKE WAS THE SNOOP VOICE OVER...
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  • x the unknownx the unknown Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MARIO_DRO wrote: »
    MAN, I JUST SAW THE MOVIE,

    I DNT KNOW WHY ALLLL THE HATE, BUT THAT WAS A GOOD ASS MOVIE..

    DUDE THAT PLAYED PAC WAS GREAT, ONLY THING I DIDN'T LIKE WAS THE SNOOP VOICE OVER...

    that snoop voice over killed it for me when i seen it on facebook live
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    Who got tha link 2 tha movie?
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