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The Official 2017 NFL Offseason/Draft Thread

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  • bless the childbless the child Posts: 5,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 19
    BDBIID wrote: »
    I get all that but I can say the same about my team beating themselves in games down the stretch. We were a missed chip shot and a Matt Jones fumble on the 2 yard line away from 10-6. We weren't at the end of the day. Hell about 15-20 teams can say the same or have similar reasons. That's the NFL.


    We'll just see. I'm not buying the hype.

    Difference is y'all had veterans all over the place. Had the second ranked passing offense. Had Two 1000 yard receivers, a 850 yard receiver, and Jordan Reed had almost 700 yards in 12 games.

    We had a young team with bad skill position players, a rookie QB, a rookie Coach, and still were in most games. Zach Ertz and Matthews had 800 yards, but beyond that wasnt much else going on offense. Its not illogical to think that even with only slightly better skill players, a few of those tight losses would have been wins.

    Y'all on the other hand had better players than us across the board, and only finished one game better. Yall losing tight games says more about the team, than it does about them just beating themselves.

  • natural born sinnersnatural born sinners Posts: 4,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They needed a short yardage back, a receiver and a secondary. They got 2 out of 3 in free agency. And it ain't a huge hump to get over. Their only concern is the Giants. They beat themselves last season.

    The eagles biggest concern should be they QB not relying on slants to win ballgames. I don't have nothing against Blount, I just don't trust players that come out of well running systems like new England's when they struggled in other places...he never fit the giants plans so they lowballed him.

    Lol that's complete bullshit. You don't watch Eagles games, and are basically repeating what Richard Sherman said. The Eagles run a lot of screens and dagger type plays, not slants. Yes, the dagger play has a slant as an option but the design is to clear the safety so you can hit the deep dig, which is where DGB made most of his catches. (Gonna be Alshon now though lol)

    Other than that, if Carson was throwing to the wideouts, it was mostly to the boundaries because they couldn't get vertical that often so the coverage often dictated post routes, and corner routes and shit. Yeah he threw SOME slants to Wr's if that's what the situation called for, but we didn't rely on slants. Most passes in the middle of the field were to TE's or, like I said before, dagger type plays designed for the receiver running the dig route.






    You can probably count the slants on one hand.


    As far as Blount, I don't understand why niggaz are acting like he was this dominant running back picking up massive yards, and just breaking off these crazy long runs. The dude is a short yardage, and redzone running back. He doesn't need to be a Zeke or Le'veon Bell. He's a power back that fits well in a RB by committee type of situation. He doesn't need to get 18tds, he just needs to be a power back, and muscle through for the short yards when needed. You don't need speed or elusiveness to do that. If he gives us 800 yards and 8-10 tds that's great for us.

    Let me articulate this in a scholarly manner you might comprehend...THE EAGLES IS WACK SON!
  • bless the childbless the child Posts: 5,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They needed a short yardage back, a receiver and a secondary. They got 2 out of 3 in free agency. And it ain't a huge hump to get over. Their only concern is the Giants. They beat themselves last season.

    The eagles biggest concern should be they QB not relying on slants to win ballgames. I don't have nothing against Blount, I just don't trust players that come out of well running systems like new England's when they struggled in other places...he never fit the giants plans so they lowballed him.

    Lol that's complete bullshit. You don't watch Eagles games, and are basically repeating what Richard Sherman said. The Eagles run a lot of screens and dagger type plays, not slants. Yes, the dagger play has a slant as an option but the design is to clear the safety so you can hit the deep dig, which is where DGB made most of his catches. (Gonna be Alshon now though lol)

    Other than that, if Carson was throwing to the wideouts, it was mostly to the boundaries because they couldn't get vertical that often so the coverage often dictated post routes, and corner routes and shit. Yeah he threw SOME slants to Wr's if that's what the situation called for, but we didn't rely on slants. Most passes in the middle of the field were to TE's or, like I said before, dagger type plays designed for the receiver running the dig route.






    You can probably count the slants on one hand.


    As far as Blount, I don't understand why niggaz are acting like he was this dominant running back picking up massive yards, and just breaking off these crazy long runs. The dude is a short yardage, and redzone running back. He doesn't need to be a Zeke or Le'veon Bell. He's a power back that fits well in a RB by committee type of situation. He doesn't need to get 18tds, he just needs to be a power back, and muscle through for the short yards when needed. You don't need speed or elusiveness to do that. If he gives us 800 yards and 8-10 tds that's great for us.

    Let me articulate this in a scholarly manner you might comprehend...THE EAGLES IS WACK SON!

    I just sonned ya dumb ass lol. Dumb ass nigga talking bout we rely on slants lol... you just a sheep ass nigga that repeats what you hear on ESPN.
    natural born sinners
  • grYmesgrYmes Diversify your bonds...Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looking forward to my Browns shocking the world and winning the Super Bowl.

    Honestly if Hue Jackson the coach I would welcome this senario.
    Check out my blog "Shit Done Changed". As I go through the most member able albums of hip hop history year-by-year.

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  • nj2089nj2089 Posts: 4,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    lol im not a eagles fan but they def gonna be better this coming season , Pederson gotta open that playbook more and throw the ball downfield now that they have deepthreats with Jeffrey and Smith
    numbaz...80's baby
  • nj2089nj2089 Posts: 4,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They gotta use Trey Burton alot more too
  • themadlionsfanthemadlionsfan Posts: 9,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He really had 11 fumbles now 12 games last year?
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  • ShizlanskyShizlansky Posts: 34,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nj2089 wrote: »
    lol im not a eagles fan but they def gonna be better this coming season , Pederson gotta open that playbook more and throw the ball downfield now that they have deepthreats with Jeffrey and Smith
    nj2089 wrote: »
    They gotta use Trey Burton alot more too

    Wentz has to step it up. He fell off hard early in the season.

    9 TD's - 13 INT - 11 fumbles in his last 12 games. Feel like a lot of people are giving a pass on this

    That's Eli type Turnovers
    (Really though?)
  • bow to royaltybow to royalty Posts: 3,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He really had 11 fumbles now 12 games last year?
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    nj2089 wrote: »
    lol im not a eagles fan but they def gonna be better this coming season , Pederson gotta open that playbook more and throw the ball downfield now that they have deepthreats with Jeffrey and Smith
    nj2089 wrote: »
    They gotta use Trey Burton alot more too

    Wentz has to step it up. He fell off hard early in the season.

    9 TD's - 13 INT - 11 fumbles in his last 12 games. Feel like a lot of people are giving a pass on this

    That's Eli type Turnovers

    Ya. Don't get me wrong, those aren't lost fumbles...just fumbles. But still a lot, and combined with the INT's. He came out hot in the first 4 games, and that early impression helped cut down in his criticism during the season.

    Dude had 2 games in those last 12 where he scored more than 1 TD. One was against SEA where he threw a second TD kinda late in the fourth when they were already down 26-7 (pretty much junk time). The other was week 17 against a Dallas team who didn't even care about that game, where he threw 2 TD's. He was ass...eagles defense got them the wins they got.
  • Young_ChitlinYoung_Chitlin YCN Chief/FCC Member/#RedVelvetSquad Member/IC Task Force General ASUville, PhoenixPosts: 22,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Calvin Johnson was a quiet guy during his playing career, but he has plenty to say in retirement.

    Johnson, the former Lions receiver who said yesterday that he didn’t like how the team treated him when he retired, also had some interesting things to say about concussions.

    Asked if he ever concealed a concussion from team doctors, Johnson answered, “Of course.”

    “They’re going to dispute that, but anytime you black out, anytime you hit the ground and everything is stars and stuff, any time your brain hits your skull, that’s a concussion,” Johnson said, via the Detroit Free Press. “No matter how severe it is, it’s a concussion. Now granted, some people get nausea. That’s a severe concussion when you get hit like that and you get nausea and stuff like that. But if you play football long enough [you’re going to have concussions].”

    Tom Brady’s wife said last week that he had a concussion last season, which the NFL says was never diagnosed. Johnson said players frequently don’t get diagnosed by team doctors because they don’t want to miss any playing time.

    “Guys get concussions, they don’t tell the coaches,” Johnson said. “It happens. I don’t tell the coach sometimes cause I know I got a job to do. The team needs me out there on the field. And sometimes you allow that to jeopardize yourself, but that’s just the nature of the world.”

    As the NFL has mandated removing players from games when they suffer concussions, an unintended consequence is that players who don’t want to leave a game won’t seek medical help if they feel concussion symptoms. Johnson knows that first hand.
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    I see a lot of people saying they'd "give" family members money.

    Thats not what you want to do.

    You want to set up a trust fund so they get a monthly payment. You can set up a trust fund so your mother gets, say, $10,000 a month for the rest of her life. According to my math, $10,000 per month for 20 years is $2.4 million. That's better than giving her $2.4 million up front because she can blow it all in a matter of days and then she'll want more and you'd feel obligated to give it to her.

    So if you win, don't "give" anybody anything. Set up a trust fund.

    Now that I think about it, I could set up a trust fund for my brother. I'd give him $10,000 a month. He's about 45 now so $10,000 per month for 40 years is only $4.8 million. That makes more sense than giving him the money in one lump sum.

    AggyAF wrote: »
    Anyone else think it's crazy only about 10 posters regularly post here and we got damn near 500 pages?

    All the other sports threads on here are people with hobbies. This is football - the beautiful game. We eat, sleep and drink football.

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  • natural born sinnersnatural born sinners Posts: 4,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nj2089 wrote: »
    lol im not a eagles fan but they def gonna be better this coming season , Pederson gotta open that playbook more and throw the ball downfield now that they have deepthreats with Jeffrey and Smith
    nj2089 wrote: »
    They gotta use Trey Burton alot more too

    Wentz has to step it up. He fell off hard early in the season.

    9 TD's - 13 INT - 11 fumbles in his last 12 games. Feel like a lot of people are giving a pass on this

    Wentz wasn't that good...i get he was a rookie...but if he don't get better..eagles gon struggle
  • natural born sinnersnatural born sinners Posts: 4,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    nj2089 wrote: »
    lol im not a eagles fan but they def gonna be better this coming season , Pederson gotta open that playbook more and throw the ball downfield now that they have deepthreats with Jeffrey and Smith
    nj2089 wrote: »
    They gotta use Trey Burton alot more too

    Wentz has to step it up. He fell off hard early in the season.

    9 TD's - 13 INT - 11 fumbles in his last 12 games. Feel like a lot of people are giving a pass on this

    That's Eli type Turnovers

    Eeeasy...my boy Eli out here catching stray bullets lol
    Shizlanskynumbaz...80's baby
  • bless the childbless the child Posts: 5,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 22
    nj2089 wrote: »
    lol im not a eagles fan but they def gonna be better this coming season , Pederson gotta open that playbook more and throw the ball downfield now that they have deepthreats with Jeffrey and Smith
    nj2089 wrote: »
    They gotta use Trey Burton alot more too

    Wentz has to step it up. He fell off hard early in the season.

    9 TD's - 13 INT - 11 fumbles in his last 12 games. Feel like a lot of people are giving a pass on this

    Lol niggaz in here building hollow narratives I see. You basically trying to use the 6 bad games he played last season to define his entire season. He really only played bad in 6 games (NYG,NYG, SEA, MIN, CIN, BALTI), he had a passer rating of 59.8 with 5TD and 11INT. In the other 10 he had a 92.8 passer rating with 11TD and 3 INT. *85.2 4TD and 3 INT in those last 12*

    In those 6 game Carson played bad those were some of the best defenses in the league. They did numbers on alot of QBs last year. Alot of QBs had their worst games of the season against those teams.

    Against Minnesota:
    Aaron Rodgers- 1TD 1INT 70.7 passer rating
    Cam Newton- 0TD 3INT 47.6 passer rating
    Eli Manning 0TD 1INT 63.3

    Giants:
    Dak Prescott- 1 TD 2INT in 2 games 57.4
    Kirk Cousins - 1 TD 2 INT in second game 74.3

    Ravens:
    Ben Rothlisberger- 1TD 1INT 67.3


    I could go on but I think you get the point. Basically his numbers are weighed down by those 6 games.He played good in 10 games, terrible in 6.
  • bow to royaltybow to royalty Posts: 3,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nj2089 wrote: »
    lol im not a eagles fan but they def gonna be better this coming season , Pederson gotta open that playbook more and throw the ball downfield now that they have deepthreats with Jeffrey and Smith
    nj2089 wrote: »
    They gotta use Trey Burton alot more too

    Wentz has to step it up. He fell off hard early in the season.

    9 TD's - 13 INT - 11 fumbles in his last 12 games. Feel like a lot of people are giving a pass on this

    Lol niggaz in here building hollow narratives I see. You basically trying to use the 6 bad games he played last season to define his entire season. He really only played bad in 6 games (NYG,NYG, SEA, MIN, CIN, BALTI), he had a passer rating of 59.8 with 5TD and 11INT. In the other 10 he had a 92.8 passer rating with 11TD and 3 INT. *85.2 4TD and 3 INT in those last 12*

    In those 6 game Carson played bad those were some of the best defenses in the league. They did numbers on alot of QBs last year. Alot of QBs had their worst games of the season against those teams.

    Against Minnesota:
    Aaron Rodgers- 1TD 1INT 70.7 passer rating
    Cam Newton- 0TD 3INT 47.6 passer rating
    Eli Manning 0TD 1INT 63.3

    Giants:
    Dak Prescott- 1 TD 2INT in 2 games 57.4
    Kirk Cousins - 1 TD 2 INT in second game 74.3

    Ravens:
    Ben Rothlisberger- 1TD 1INT 67.3


    I could go on but I think you get the point. Basically his numbers are weighed down by those 6 games.He played good in 10 games, terrible in 6.

    This is a WEAK post. Six is too many games for an "only" to be included. And his 50% completion 0 TD - O INT loss to Washington wasn't bad too? He had 1 TD - 1 INT - 2 Fumbles in 2 games vs the Skins. Facts are facts...he was ass after his first 4 games.

    smh @ focusing on a QB's best 10 games of the season and him still only having 11 TD's (to go with his 3 INT's and 6 fumbles, haha FOH. Everyone's numbers look better if you remove their worst 6 games. This was too weak.

    Olorun22
  • bow to royaltybow to royalty Posts: 3,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stew wrote: »
    nj2089 wrote: »
    lol im not a eagles fan but they def gonna be better this coming season , Pederson gotta open that playbook more and throw the ball downfield now that they have deepthreats with Jeffrey and Smith
    nj2089 wrote: »
    They gotta use Trey Burton alot more too

    Wentz has to step it up. He fell off hard early in the season.

    9 TD's - 13 INT - 11 fumbles in his last 12 games. Feel like a lot of people are giving a pass on this

    Wentz wasn't that good...i get he was a rookie...but if he don't get better..eagles gon struggle

    Once teams got film on him it was a wrap, hence his numbers Fallin off as the season went on.

    Pretty much. It is what it is. Wentz fans just gotta accept that, and hope he fixes it next year. Because acting like 6 of the next 12 games didn't happen is shameful.
  • bless the childbless the child Posts: 5,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 22
    nj2089 wrote: »
    lol im not a eagles fan but they def gonna be better this coming season , Pederson gotta open that playbook more and throw the ball downfield now that they have deepthreats with Jeffrey and Smith
    nj2089 wrote: »
    They gotta use Trey Burton alot more too

    Wentz has to step it up. He fell off hard early in the season.

    9 TD's - 13 INT - 11 fumbles in his last 12 games. Feel like a lot of people are giving a pass on this

    Lol niggaz in here building hollow narratives I see. You basically trying to use the 6 bad games he played last season to define his entire season. He really only played bad in 6 games (NYG,NYG, SEA, MIN, CIN, BALTI), he had a passer rating of 59.8 with 5TD and 11INT. In the other 10 he had a 92.8 passer rating with 11TD and 3 INT. *85.2 4TD and 3 INT in those last 12*

    In those 6 game Carson played bad those were some of the best defenses in the league. They did numbers on alot of QBs last year. Alot of QBs had their worst games of the season against those teams.

    Against Minnesota:
    Aaron Rodgers- 1TD 1INT 70.7 passer rating
    Cam Newton- 0TD 3INT 47.6 passer rating
    Eli Manning 0TD 1INT 63.3

    Giants:
    Dak Prescott- 1 TD 2INT in 2 games 57.4
    Kirk Cousins - 1 TD 2 INT in second game 74.3

    Ravens:
    Ben Rothlisberger- 1TD 1INT 67.3


    I could go on but I think you get the point. Basically his numbers are weighed down by those 6 games.He played good in 10 games, terrible in 6.

    This is a WEAK post. Six is too many games for an "only" to be included. And his 50% completion 0 TD - O INT loss to Washington wasn't bad too? He had 1 TD - 1 INT - 2 Fumbles in 2 games vs the Skins. Facts are facts...he was ass after his first 4 games.

    smh @ focusing on a QB's best 10 games of the season and him still only having 11 TD's (to go with his 3 INT's and 6 fumbles, haha FOH. Everyone's numbers look better if you remove their worst 6 games. This was too weak.
    Bro, do you even watch Eagles game? Did you even watch either of those games?



    The tape dont lie. Count the dropped passes, and QB pressures on the missed throws. Then look at what he did when the protection was soild. But nah, the stat sheet says he was 11-22 so he played bad right? This was the first game with no Lane Johnson. Dude got sacked 5 times.



    Jordan Matthews doesn't drag his toe on that td. The very next play Ertz let the DB get underneath him, for that one int you talking about. That's on Carson too though right? Lol
    Tobin didn't get washed on that strip sack(FUMBLE) either, right? That was all on Wentz too, right? Lol go watch some football nigga and come back with some facts on my QB man.

    And you keep harping on these fumbles. He had 3 lost fumbles, all of them strip sacks, if a snap is low, hits the QB's hand, hits the ground but the QB picks it up, that's a fumble bro. How is that on the QB? I could put up in game examples but I really don't think you need me to.





    Mister B.numbaz...80's baby
  • numbaz...80's babynumbaz...80's baby Posts: 4,979 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 22
    Front 7 will be strong this season. Campbell, Deebo, Duke and Beasely at LB. Poe, Grady(3.5 sacks in the Superbowl) and Takk on the line.

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  • StewStew Rap Music Is My Religion We run this spot like a Chinese sweatshopPosts: 51,245 Regulator
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    Wait didn't know our rookie LB played so well in pass coverage last season
  • bow to royaltybow to royalty Posts: 3,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nj2089 wrote: »
    lol im not a eagles fan but they def gonna be better this coming season , Pederson gotta open that playbook more and throw the ball downfield now that they have deepthreats with Jeffrey and Smith
    nj2089 wrote: »
    They gotta use Trey Burton alot more too

    Wentz has to step it up. He fell off hard early in the season.

    9 TD's - 13 INT - 11 fumbles in his last 12 games. Feel like a lot of people are giving a pass on this

    Lol niggaz in here building hollow narratives I see. You basically trying to use the 6 bad games he played last season to define his entire season. He really only played bad in 6 games (NYG,NYG, SEA, MIN, CIN, BALTI), he had a passer rating of 59.8 with 5TD and 11INT. In the other 10 he had a 92.8 passer rating with 11TD and 3 INT. *85.2 4TD and 3 INT in those last 12*

    In those 6 game Carson played bad those were some of the best defenses in the league. They did numbers on alot of QBs last year. Alot of QBs had their worst games of the season against those teams.

    Against Minnesota:
    Aaron Rodgers- 1TD 1INT 70.7 passer rating
    Cam Newton- 0TD 3INT 47.6 passer rating
    Eli Manning 0TD 1INT 63.3

    Giants:
    Dak Prescott- 1 TD 2INT in 2 games 57.4
    Kirk Cousins - 1 TD 2 INT in second game 74.3

    Ravens:
    Ben Rothlisberger- 1TD 1INT 67.3


    I could go on but I think you get the point. Basically his numbers are weighed down by those 6 games.He played good in 10 games, terrible in 6.

    This is a WEAK post. Six is too many games for an "only" to be included. And his 50% completion 0 TD - O INT loss to Washington wasn't bad too? He had 1 TD - 1 INT - 2 Fumbles in 2 games vs the Skins. Facts are facts...he was ass after his first 4 games.

    smh @ focusing on a QB's best 10 games of the season and him still only having 11 TD's (to go with his 3 INT's and 6 fumbles, haha FOH. Everyone's numbers look better if you remove their worst 6 games. This was too weak.
    Bro, do you even watch Eagles game? Did you even watch either of those games?



    The tape dont lie. Count the dropped passes, and QB pressures on the missed throws. Then look at what he did when the protection was soild. But nah, the stat sheet says he was 11-22 so he played bad right? This was the first game with no Lane Johnson. Dude got sacked 5 times.



    Jordan Matthews doesn't drag his toe on that td. The very next play Ertz let the DB get underneath him, for that one int you talking about. That's on Carson too though right? Lol
    Tobin didn't get washed on that strip sack(FUMBLE) either, right? That was all on Wentz too, right? Lol go watch some football nigga and come back with some facts on my QB man.

    And you keep harping on these fumbles. He had 3 lost fumbles, all of them strip sacks, if a snap is low, hits the QB's hand, hits the ground but the QB picks it up, that's a fumble bro. How is that on the QB? I could put up in game examples but I really don't think you need me to.





    I watched a good bit of the games. I live in VA so they put all the Skins games on. You're just making non-stop excuses. "We had to play good pass defenses...He was getting pressured...His receiver dropped the pass...an OL got suspended...His center didn't snap the ball well...His receiver didn't drag his toe...His tight end didn't fight for the ball...his RB missed a block". Nobody's trying to hear all that shit,

    9 TD's-13 INT's-11 fumbles in 12 games is ass. Kaep played 12 games, on a worse team, and did much better.

    I gave you facts already. In his last 12 games:
    - he went 4-8, and one win was vs Cowboys back ups.
    - he had 11 TD's and 16 turnovers
    - he had 2 multi touchdown games (1 again vs Cowboys backups), but 5 multi-turnover games.
    - Completed less than 60% of his passes in 6 games
    - threw for over 250 yards just 3 times even though he averaged almost 40 attempts/game
    StewOlorun22DaBull
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