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White Supremacist rally in Charlottesville

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  • stringer bellstringer bell Posts: 23,984 ✭✭✭✭✭

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/charlottesville-cant-pull-down-confederate-statues-so-it-covered-them-instead
    Charlottesville Can’t Pull Down Confederate Statues, So It Covered Them Instead

    Barely an hour after the city thought it temporarily solved its problem, a tie-dyed man denouncing both sides tried to free General Lee from his black shroud.

    CHARLOTTESVILLE, Virginia—The city can’t pull down its Confederate statues, so it covered them up instead.
    Workers draped heavy, black tarps over statues of Confederate generals Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson a week after a white supremacist rally, supposedly to defend the Lee memorial, devolved into violence and killed protester Heather Heyer.

    Virginia state law prohibits the removal of monuments to veterans, so the city council voted to temporarily cover them until legal means of removing them could be found. The decision came at the end of a Monday night city council meeting in which hundreds of angry residents called for Mayor Mike Signer to resign. They were furious he allowed the August 12 rally of white supremacists to take place, and they faulted him for police’s failure to protect peaceful protesters from assaults. It got so heated that Signer ran out of the room.

    Even the compromise couldn’t escape controversy, when a man with a knife and a pistol started cutting at the Lee tarp barely more than an hour after it went up.

    John Miska, a retired veteran from nearby Madison County, wore a tie-dye t-shirt and carried a pistol strapped to his right leg as he tried to cut off the tarp. Police immediately arrived and tried stopped him. Miska argued with one of them, insisting that the law provided for him to remove the tarp. He finally agreed to stop and proceeded to explain why he did it.

    “If you are American there is no room for race in this country but for American. Now this was an American," Miska said, gesturing towards Lee. "He fought for the wrong side, he fought for the wrong ideals. We need him to be here so we can point at him and say he fought for the side that lost. He repented."

    Earlier in nearby Emancipation Park, the main site of the deadly August 12 rally and an July KKK rally, another small crowd had gathered to stare at the statue of Lee being covered up. In front of the statue, a hand-lettered sign reading "Heather Heyer Memorial Park" lay on the ground. A pickup truck slowed as it passed the park and a white male rolled down his window to shout expletives.

    "We're mourning those who have lost their lives," said Vice Mayor Wes Bellamy, "and we're looking to celebrate those who have been freedom fighters for generations."

    After August 12, other cities and universities around the U.S. began removing Confederate statues, including the Baltimore and Duke University.

    "This is a national movement,” Bellamy said. “ You've seen this take place across the country."

    Miska expressed disgust for both sides in the debate over the statues, in particular at Jason Kessler, the local white supremacist who organized the “Unite the Right Rally” on August 12.

    "You know how to spell Kessler?" Miska asked the crowing crowd. "I spell it a-s-s-h-o-l-e. Anybody know how to spell Wes Bellamy's name? You can spell it the same way. Both of them were wrong."
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    “Every generation has its own evil. But our evil is a different kind of evil — our systems are evil.” - Rev. Nicholas Richards
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  • stringer bellstringer bell Posts: 23,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    “Every generation has its own evil. But our evil is a different kind of evil — our systems are evil.” - Rev. Nicholas Richards
  • blackgod813blackgod813 Posts: 8,932 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why he call mlk a coon seems like he want the fade..he dissed a man who would save his fat ass ... No reason for peace
  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Man with No Fucks Given Posts: 25,257 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why he call mlk a coon seems like he want the fade..he dissed a man who would save his fat ass ... No reason for peace

    He gave no fucks about saying it either. He didn't take it back. He just laughed about it and said he shouldn't have said it. You can't tell that's what he calls him all the time.
    Niggas think that they own things and man sits high upon thrones
    But when you die, tell me what the fuck you own.
    When your skin, flesh, and bones find a permanent home
    as food for worms or fossils trapped in stone. - Rza in "What's Going On?"

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  • stringer bellstringer bell Posts: 23,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanders-shrugs-mar-a-lago-losing-events
    White House Shrugs Off Fallout From Trump’s Charlottesville Response

    The White House on Friday brushed aside a question about the the fallout both President Donald Trump’s administration and personal business empire have seen in the wake of his failure to swiftly condemn white nationalists after the deadly rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    During a press briefing, Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders was asked if the news that several charities had pulled their events from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club, combined with criticism from his top economics adviser and an exodus of outside advisers from the business world, had made the President rethink his response to the violence in Charlottesville.

    “I can’t speak to anything regarding the Trump Organization,” Sanders replied, adding that Trump “condemns this in the strongest form possible.”

    More than 15 charities have said that they will no longer hold previously scheduled events at Mar-a-Lago, leaving Trump’s Palm Beach club with few big special events to host during the winter gala season in Florida. Trump has yet to weigh in on the nonprofits’ decision to ditch his venue.

    One of the latest groups to pull an event from the Florida club, the Unicorn Children’s Foundation, said that it was relocating its event because the group does “not condone hatred or bullying on any level as our kids have dealt with the pain of being called different on a very personal level.”
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    “Every generation has its own evil. But our evil is a different kind of evil — our systems are evil.” - Rev. Nicholas Richards
  • MasterJayN100MasterJayN100 real niggaz move in silence Somewhere in this Big Ol WorldPosts: 11,062 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Racism never went away in America.. Trump just made it cool again
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  • stringer bellstringer bell Posts: 23,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/video-shows-police-standing-back-after-man-shoots-into-charlottesville-crowd
    Video Shows Police Standing Back After Man Shoots At Charlottesville Crowd

    Police have arrested a man suspected of shooting in the direction of a crowd of counter-protesters during the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia on Aug. 12, the New York Times first reported Friday.

    Multiple outlets later reported that Richard Wilson Preston, 52, was one of three people against whom police had announced charges Saturday in connection with the Unite the Right rally. He was charged with discharging a firearm within 1,000 feet of a school.

    The Daily Progress reported Saturday that police said Preston had fired his weapon “in the 100 block of West Market Street, which is a corner of Emancipation Park, where the rally was held.”

    But, the paper added, neither police nor city officials confirmed that Preston was the same man as the one shown in video provided by the ACLU of Virginia to the Times and the Daily Progress. Lt. Steve Upman, public information officer of the Charlottesville Police Department, was not immediately available for comment Saturday night.

    Preston is a well-known imperial wizard of the Confederate White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. He regularly gives interviews, such as to PennLive in 2013.


    He spoke to WANE-TV a couple days after the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville.

    “Nobody was in conflict until antifa showed up and started swinging,” Preston said at the time, using the shorthand for “anti-fascists.” Preston added separately, referring to the write nationalist groups in attendance: “We didn’t go there to create havoc and a fight. We went there to protect the monument.”

    Preston also said, referring to the violence: “The Unite the Right people didn’t start this, but they ended it because there was a lot of antifa bleeding.”

    Two others — Daniel Patrick Borden, 18, and Alex Michael Ramos, 33 — were charged with malicious wounding in connection with the brutal beating of Deandre Harris, 20, in a parking garage.

    Preston and Borden were in police custody, the Daily Progress reported.

    The ACLU of Virginia’s video shows Preston yelling “Hey nigger! Hey!” before pointing a hand gun in the direction of a black man wielding a makeshift flame thrower.

    The firearm appears to malfunction before the man tries again and places a shot in a nearby bush.

    The man then strolls casually away, past a wall of police officers who make no effort to stop him.

    A spokesperson for the state police, Corinne Geller, told the Times that police officers shown in the video to be mere feet away from the gun shot had not heard it because it was “muffled by the loud volume of the crowd yelling and chanting, drums and music.” But the Times reported that the shot was audible in another video, which had been filmed close to other police officers.


    The man with the makeshift flamethrower, Corey Long, achieved some degree of notoriety when a picture of him fending off Confederate flag wielding protesters went viral.

    “There was a white supremacist, he actually pointed a gun at us while we were standing there,” Long told CNN’s Don Lemon a few days after the rally, describing the scene on Aug. 12. “First he pointed it at my head, and then he shot it at the ground.”

    One counter-protester in Charlottesville on Aug. 12, Heather Heyer, was killed when a man who had earlier been photographed with a white nationalist group allegedly rammed his car into a crowd.
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  • CopperCopper The WickPosts: 48,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gotta have solid video proof of klansmen doing wrong for police to act in it....even if theyre standing right there

    But they arrest everyone at a blm protest....even reporters
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  • BobOblahBobOblah Posts: 8,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 28
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    Shaun King is gaining real respect from me since Charlottesville. He was one of the only ones with a platform going hard to ID these dudes for beating Deandre Harris and then calling out cops and governors to arrest the attackers. I'm not sure they would've acted without the pressure he helped apply. The media talked plenty about the white girl getting killed but not so much about Deandre getting beaten
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  • CopperCopper The WickPosts: 48,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Somebody had a rape whistle
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  • CainCain The audacity of you fuck niggas Cyttorax DimensionPosts: 43,704 Regulator


    This little nigga gay and Republican ........ ironic
    I mod without feelings or remorse.


    Just been through it all man
    Blood sweat and tears
    Niggaz is dead and shit
    What the fuck else can happen yo?
    I dont think much more son, word to mother yo
    We done seen it all, and been through it all yo
    Let y'all niggaz know right now
    Word to mother, for real, for real
    I aint ever goin back
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  • stringer bellstringer bell Posts: 23,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 31
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/republican-legislator-missouri-vandal-lynched
    Missouri State Rep. Calls For Confederate Statue Vandal To Be Lynched

    A Missouri legislator on Wednesday called for a vandal who defaced a Confederate statue to be lynched.

    State Rep. Warren Love (R) was responding on Facebook to a story about an unidentified vandal who threw paint on a Confederate memorial in Springfield National Cemetery, the Riverfront Times reported.

    The paper published a screenshot of Love’s Facebook post above the article, which he quickly deleted.

    “This is totally against the law,” Love wrote. “I hope they are found & hung from a tall tree with a long rope. National Veterans Cemetery in Springfield, Mo.”

    Love later told the paper he didn’t mean for the post to be taken literally. The threat recalled killings that the Ku Klux Klan and other white supremacy groups used to enforce strict racial hierarchies.

    “That was an exaggerated statement that, you know, a lot of times is used in the Western world when somebody does a crime or commits theft,” he said. “That’s just a Western term and I’m very much a Western man. You know, I wear a coat. You know, I dress Western. And, you know, I’m the cowboy of the Capitol.”

    There was another case of ramped-up rhetoric earlier this week.

    In Georgia on Monday, a Republican state legislator told his former Democratic colleague of four years that she would “go missing” and encounter “something a lot more definitive” than torches if she continued to advocate for tearing down Confederate monuments in the state.


    The Democrat, LaDawn Jones, said she didn’t take the threat personally. But, she told TPM, when she called Rep. Jason Spencer to discuss his remarks, she said he told her: “I was just giving you fair warning.”

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    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/sessions-tested-doj-probe-charlottesville
    Sessions History With POC Comes To Light In DOJ Probe Of C’ville Attack

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, a son of the segregated South who was named after leaders of the Confederacy, faces a tough new test of his commitment to protecting civil rights as he oversees the Justice Department’s investigation of the deadly violence at a rally of white nationalists in Virginia.

    Sessions’ political career has been dogged by questions about race, including during his confirmation hearings this year. In his six months as attorney general, he has worked quickly to change how the department enforces civil rights law, particularly in the areas of police reform and voting rights.

    Yet Sessions was also quick to forcefully condemn the car attack at the neo-Nazi rally in support of a Confederate statue in Charlottesville. His response stood in contrast to that of President Donald Trump, who drew equivalence between the white nationalists and those protesting their beliefs. Sessions denounced racism and bigotry and called the driver’s actions an “evil” act of domestic terrorism worthy of a federal civil rights investigation.

    Observers say the real test will be in what Sessions does next, given the legal limitations he faces.

    Federal hate crimes law may not cover the killing even if it was motivated by hate. Federal criminal law has no specific, catchall charge for acts of domestic terrorism. Sessions may decide that the murder charges already leveled against James Alex Fields Jr. in state court are sufficient for justice.

    “It’s my hope that with the degree of national and international scrutiny, that this department will do the right thing,” said Kristen Clarke, a former hate crimes prosecutor and president of the liberal Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law. “This is a case that the world is watching.”

    For Sessions, a genial 70-year-old with an Alabama drawl and an uncompromising conservative ideology, leading the Justice Department is the capstone of a decadeslong political career. He has faced questions about his treatment of minorities along the way.

    As a federal prosecutor in the 1980s, Sessions charged black community activists, who were swiftly acquitted, in a voter fraud case that, along with allegations of racially charged comments, cost him a federal judgeship. As a Republican senator more than 20 years later, he opposed expanding the federal hate crimes statute to protect people based on their sexual orientation and gender identity.

    Clarke said Sessions’ comments in the days after the Charlottesville attack made her cautiously optimistic, but his history has her concerned.

    Sessions promised to “advance the investigation toward the most serious charges that can be brought, because this is an unequivocally unacceptable and evil attack that cannot be accepted in America.”

    But he also acknowledged that deciding whether to bring federal charges won’t be quick or easy.

    Hate crime cases are often challenging because the government must prove that a suspect was primarily motivated by hatred of the victims’ race or religion, as opposed to their political views. The Charlottesville case could be tricky. The victim, 32-year-old Heather Heyer, was white. That means investigators will have to prove Fields was targeting minorities when he plowed into the crowd, not just anti-racism protesters.

    Prosecutors can argue that a suspect committed a crime not because of the race of the victim but because of the race of the people on whose behalf she was protesting, said William Yeomans, an American University law fellow and former high-ranking official in the Justice Department’s civil rights division. But that interpretation of the hate crimes law has rarely if ever been used, he said.

    “It’s a challenge, but I don’t think it’s entirely impossible or shouldn’t be explored,” Yeomans said. “The real measure of (Sessions’) commitment and his success in this case will be the thoroughness of the investigation” even if the case remains in state court.

    Fields already faces a long sentence if he is convicted in Virginia, so a federal charge could be seen as largely symbolic. Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch, for example, said she brought hate crimes charges in a massacre at a black church in South Carolina because that state has no hate-crimes law, and federal charges were needed to adequately address a motive rooted in racial hate.

    The latest case is being investigated by career prosecutors and FBI agents, who will make recommendations to Sessions. The FBI would not describe the scope of the resources it has devoted to the investigation, but there are signs it is a priority. Agents were looking for clues in Fields’ hometown in Ohio the day of the attack.

    Sessions has said prosecuting hate crimes is a priority of his civil rights division. Yet he is reshaping the unit in other ways that make advocates nervous.

    Under Sessions, the department has expressed support for a strict Texas voter ID that a federal judge last month found discriminates against minorities; backed off court-enforceable improvement plans for troubled police agencies; and told local school districts they no longer must allow transgender students to use the bathrooms of their choice.

    The department declined to comment further on Sessions’ thinking about the Charlottesville case. Sessions has not said whether he personally favors the removal of Confederate monuments such as the one memorializing Robert E. Lee at the center of the Charlottesville violence. He has said only that cities should make that choice free from violence. His supporters say neither emotions nor his past will guide him in the investigation.

    “He will look at it from a very legal perspective. Was a crime committed, and what are we going to do to get a conviction?” said Armand DeKeyser, who worked closely with Sessions and became his chief of staff in the Senate. “He won’t be governed by emotion.”

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    http://www.kxii.com/content/news/Cemetery-adorned-with-Confederate-flags--442702403.html
    Cemetery adorned with Confederate flags

    ARDMORE, Okla. (KXII) -- A woman raising money to restore a Confederate statue in Bryan County stopped in Ardmore during the weekend, to adorn some grave sites with flags.

    "They're attacking their honor. So they fly, 24/7." Arlene Barnum, an African American Vietnam-era veteran, said.

    Barnum, 63, says she likes to spend her retirement traveling to honor fallen soldiers.


    "Most men, they go out and buy guns and fishing gear, I spend mine on road trips," Barnum said. "I've traveled to every southern state below the Mason-Dixon line, with the exception of Virginia and Florida."

    And over the last couple years, Barnum has focused her energy on defending Confederate veterans, in response to calls by groups all over the country to tear down Confederate Monuments, such as in Charlottesville, Va., and San Antonio last month, and even in Texoma this past week.

    "The moment they start ratcheting up their attacks, then that's when I don't slow down, I got to speed it up." Barnum said.

    And that's what brought her to Rosehill Cemetary in Ardmore, where she planted over 200 flags at Confederate soldiers' grave sites over the Labor Day weekend. But unlike her previous flag plantings during holidays such as Memorial Day, she says these flags are here to stay.

    "If they do it 24/7, we fly them 24/7," Barnum said. "They take one flag down, you put a bigger flag up. They take a monument down, you try and get the money to erect the monument back up."

    There's been no word yet from any groups that may oppose the flags, nor from the city who owns the cemetery, but Barnum says its simply about respect.

    "They were veterans," Barnum said. "They did what was commanded of them. They fought for what they believed in- whether it is right or wrong."


    Barnum says she has raised more than $2,000 to restore the Bryan County monument, but plans to continue fundraising until she reaches the $10,000 goal. She returns to Durant on Tuesday to talk to the commissioners about that fundraising.

    http://www.news9.com/story/36287143/woman-planting-confederate-flags-at-ardmore-cemetery

    Woman Planting Confederate Flags At Ardmore Cemetery

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    Even as we have a national discussion about the removal of Confederate monuments, one local woman is placing confederate flags on graves at an Ardmore cemetery.

    One by one, Arlene Barnum is placing the flags on the graves of confederate soldiers. Not just at Rose Hill Cemetery in Ardmore, but at cemeteries throughout the south. She says she knows some people look at the flag as a symbol of racism and slavery. She says she looks at the flag through different eyes because she's black.

    "Most of the white people are afraid of being called racist. And I let them know that that's their personal problem, but I don't have that issue,” Barnum said. “And I’m not going to tuck and run."

    Barnum, who says she's a veteran, says removing confederate statues and flags just adds to the racial division our country is seeing right now.

    "I think it's another way to divide the country using black people as an excuse to divide it because they think the black people knee-jerk a lot and they think the black people are the ones they get all excited and riled up," she said.

    News 9 asked several people in Ardmore what they thought of the flags. No one wanted to go on camera, because this is such a hot button issue. However, everyone we spoke with said they didn't have a problem with the flags being placed on the graves of confederate soldiers. Barnum says it doesn't matter what people say, she'll continue.

    "They're just trying to use the color of my skin to take down anything confederate. I'm not gonna have it," Barnum said. "Just keep them flying 24/7 until this assault on confederate veterans has stopped."

    Smh.. The military taught this subordinate coonette well...
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