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Ice Cube: "No Vaseline" is Better Than "Hit Em Up", it was More Personal

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  • black caesarblack caesar Posts: 11,369 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 11
    #Facts


    Let's just put this in perspective. There were a lot of great disses before and after "No Vaseline" but "No Vaseline" to me is........"The Blueprint" on how to make a diss record.
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  • Preach2TeachPreach2Teach I can't swim but my soul wont drown. Posts: 3,173 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hit em up is overrated as fuck, there is lots of hip hop diss tracks that are better to me with No vaseline probably being my favorite, when I was younger I would probably have had hit em up at the top but now I am older and see through the hype.
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  • All_In_The_GameAll_In_The_Game Posts: 50 ✭✭
    Of course it was, he didn't have the wack ass Outlawz rappin on it.
  • natural born sinnersnatural born sinners Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fuck a group break up.."Hit em up" had niggas ready to die over shit. It was deeper than rap. Hit em up the best diss track of all time. I always say if "who shot ya" was really aimed at Pac, then that is by far the most personal and scathing diss of ALL TIME. Nothing comes close.
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  • Jonah 2.0Jonah 2.0 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why tear down one to promote the other? Both are great diss records. Both are in my top three, along with RMGs. I can understand arguments on both sides as to why one is better than the other.
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  • ShizlanskyShizlansky Posts: 34,059 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A lot of lies in no vasline.

    He kept saying they was E was fucking them. Literally.

    But they the outlaws shouldn't have been on that track.

    No vasline gets the slight edge
    (Really though?)
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  • RickyRichRickyRich almighty ricky rich Posts: 11,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    pac put em niggas on too many songs lol . he should of kept fatal n kadafi
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  • englishdudeenglishdude Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭✭✭
    King of the hill >>> hit em up.
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  • TrillfateTrillfate "i used to like the Ride more now i like the Race...i used like the Prize more now i like the Chase" Posts: 23,832 ✭✭✭✭✭
    bck145 wrote: »
    Hitemup is the best diss song in hip hop....then its between ether and no vasoline
    Nope.

    Real muthsfuckin Gs is the best diss song in hip hop history
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  • GhostdenithegawdGhostdenithegawd Up from da 36 chambers HarlemPosts: 15,567 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And if big seriously responded back he would of shitted on PAC soul easily
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  • thagreat45thagreat45 Roc City NY 585 Live SetPosts: 76 ✭✭
    Love how the IC stay shittin' on Pac every chance they get. First of all why even compare no vaseline to hit em up? One song was one nigga going at a whole group the other was a fuckin group diss. If we gon compare disses then Against All Odds is more suitable to No Vaseline. Both songs got them both going for dolo at multiple niggaz.

    No Vaseline was tough but yall overhype that song and Ether too much and just dismiss Pac second verse which was harder than the first. Cube ripped MC Ren a new asshole he got it the worst, Eazy ain't even get it like him. SMH these IC niggaz man lol
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  • DR. JEKDR. JEK Posts: 5,156 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 13
    bck145 wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    Cain wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    Cain wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    Hitemup is the best diss song in hip hop....then its between ether and no vasoline

    No Vaseline broke up a group and got Heller fired. Hit em Up is one bar that people remember lol stop it

    Hitemup had a bigger impact in hip hop and much more emotion....much more scathing

    Lol at emotions. Cube was speaking facts that anyone can check Pac made a statement that no one can confirm.


    Facts>>>>>>>>>>

    Thats cute...hitemup is a much better song and much more hard hitting even if its not facts

    How does this make any sense?

    I fucked ur bitch you fat mother fucker

    Fuck bad boy as a staff, record label, and a ma fuckin crew

    No one knows if pac fucked faith..probably did and the agression in his voice during the song is so venomous

    Ray J said he saw Faith sitting on the nigga's lap in the studio. Most chicks don't get that comfortable wit u unless they in heat.
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  • Soloman_The_WiseSoloman_The_Wise The Make It Happen Man... Puget SoundPosts: 2,734 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hit em Up was raw as fuck a new level for diss records with a fire beat and is among the elite diss records but there are better diss tracks even from Pac...
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  • gee757gee757 Posts: 25,983
    edited September 13
    Cube must not know that hit em up was made so deathrow east could destroy bad boy & anybody down with them......suge went too ny to meet wit Eric b & BD about deathrow east & they told suge the only way the label was gonna pop is if Tupac stopped making ny187 records saying fuk NY! ... So suge & Eric b called pac n Cali & told him 2 make hit em up & call out all the names of ny rappers he had a problem with....hit em up was going to be the start of a nu ny/eastcoast movement with deathrow east it was bigger then just dissing biggie it was about taking over a whole coast knocking out bad boy & that's y Craig mack was involved!
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  • king hassanking hassan south side somewherePosts: 22,355 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thagreat45 wrote: »
    Love how the IC stay shittin' on Pac every chance they get. First of all why even compare no vaseline to hit em up? One song was one nigga going at a whole group the other was a fuckin group diss. If we gon compare disses then Against All Odds is more suitable to No Vaseline. Both songs got them both going for dolo at multiple niggaz.

    No Vaseline was tough but yall overhype that song and Ether too much and just dismiss Pac second verse which was harder than the first. Cube ripped MC Ren a new asshole he got it the worst, Eazy ain't even get it like him. SMH these IC niggaz man lol

    And cats say Pac is the best thing since sliced bread, it goes both ways
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  • blackgod813blackgod813 Posts: 8,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yea pac was better far more evil. Cold hearted
  • gee757gee757 Posts: 25,983
    edited September 13
    thagreat45 wrote: »
    Love how the IC stay shittin' on Pac every chance they get. First of all why even compare no vaseline to hit em up? One song was one nigga going at a whole group the other was a fuckin group diss. If we gon compare disses then Against All Odds is more suitable to No Vaseline. Both songs got them both going for dolo at multiple niggaz.

    No Vaseline was tough but yall overhype that song and Ether too much and just dismiss Pac second verse which was harder than the first. Cube ripped MC Ren a new asshole he got it the worst, Eazy ain't even get it like him. SMH these IC niggaz man lol

    And cats say Pac is the best thing since sliced bread, it goes both ways

    What you fail too realize is 2pac was the only ny/eastcoast rapper too b crowned king of the westcoast & that's what separate s & makes him greater then any other rapper n hip hop history.....im not saying pac is the greatest rapper ever but only Tupac could do a 1nation east & west album & he did it wit all his albums there was east & west rappers on all his albums including when he was on deathrow...
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  • blacktuxblacktux Posts: 4,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It being "more personal" doesnt make it better.

    When hit em up dropped, shit shook the whole rap game up. Dude basically said fuck the whole eastcoast and anyone else fucking with biggie.

    Beat was hard, pac energy on the track was crazy.

    Ether the only diss harder than hit em up.
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  • gee757gee757 Posts: 25,983
    edited September 13
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    Cain wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    Cain wrote: »
    bck145 wrote: »
    Hitemup is the best diss song in hip hop....then its between ether and no vasoline

    No Vaseline broke up a group and got Heller fired. Hit em Up is one bar that people remember lol stop it

    Hitemup had a bigger impact in hip hop and much more emotion....much more scathing

    Lol at emotions. Cube was speaking facts that anyone can check Pac made a statement that no one can confirm.


    Facts>>>>>>>>>>

    Thats cute...hitemup is a much better song and much more hard hitting even if its not facts

    How does this make any sense?

    I fucked ur bitch you fat mother fucker

    Fuck bad boy as a staff, record label, and a ma fuckin crew

    No one knows if pac fucked faith..probably did and the agression in his voice during the song is so venomous

    Ray J said he saw Faith sitting on the nigga's lap in the studio. Most chicks don't get that comfortable wit u unless they in heat.

    Ray j ain't the only Kat that seen faith sitting on pacs lap the deathrow bass player seen it too...



    ^ that grown ass man ain't got no reasontoo lie & he really didn't care for pac himself.... if faith fuk'd big u know she fuk'd pac cuz pac use 2 have too beg bitches too fuk big come on now smh
    blacktux wrote: »
    It being "more personal" doesnt make it better.

    When hit em up dropped, shit shook the whole rap game up. Dude basically said fuck the whole eastcoast and anyone else fucking with biggie.

    Beat was hard, pac energy on the track was crazy.

    Ether the only diss harder than hit em up.

    That makes no sense when ny ogs told pac 2 do hit em up......hit em up was the start/anthem too deathrow east that was going to take over the east/ny.
  • gee757gee757 Posts: 25,983
    thagreat45 wrote: »
    Love how the IC stay shittin' on Pac every chance they get. First of all why even compare no vaseline to hit em up? One song was one nigga going at a whole group the other was a fuckin group diss. If we gon compare disses then Against All Odds is more suitable to No Vaseline. Both songs got them both going for dolo at multiple niggaz.

    No Vaseline was tough but yall overhype that song and Ether too much and just dismiss Pac second verse which was harder than the first. Cube ripped MC Ren a new asshole he got it the worst, Eazy ain't even get it like him. SMH these IC niggaz man lol

    And cats say Pac is the best thing since invented sliced bread, it goes both ways

    fixed that for ya

    Gtfoh & don't hit me wit no neg u hating Faggot cuz all that shit came out of a x bad boy bodyguard mouf about hit em up..
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  • moyomoyo Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love both disses, but I gotta go wit Hit em up. The impact of that record after it dropped was so monumental.... The whole world was shook after Hit em up came out. No Vaseline dismantled NWA, but truth be told they were on the rocks anyway, Dre already had one foot out the door and was fuckin wit Suge and starting Death row round the time No Vaseline was out, that shit was basically the last straw. But Biggie was ready to kill Faith after he heard that shit and in a tongue in cheek way admitted that pac smashed om Brooklyn's finest.... Those records are righteously 1A and 1B on disses for me.
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  • gee757gee757 Posts: 25,983
    Biggie got killed cuz hit em up ain't nobody die after no Vaseline cube is tripping.
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