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There will be girls in the Boy Scouts

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  • ThaNubianGodThaNubianGod Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cain wrote: »
    My son was in the boy scouts. On one hand this some feminist shit but on the other hand I don't care. Call it the Scouts and keep it pushing. It's a great learning tool for all kids to learn some survival shit.


    Fake outrage meter should be low

    You should care though. it's apathy that's allowing this shit to continue. Boys and girls aren't the same. There's no reason to mess with either the boy scouts or girl scouts, other than messed up agendas. The kids are the ones who suffer through this bullshit sadly.

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  • PureYangPureYang Posts: 511 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This growing stigma against gender roles is pretty interesting, and will more than likely define my generation in relation to others.

    I don't see any thing wrong with them. It's when it's systemically imposed that people are forced be one way or the other, that should be stigmatized imo.

    That's it.

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  • blackrainblackrain Posts: 27,209 Regulator
    edited October 12
    Heard on the radio this morning this is being done more for money because of all the lawsuits the boy scouts have had to pay out over the past few years. Its not women pushing this its something the boy scouts are doing to get money
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  • blackrainblackrain Posts: 27,209 Regulator
    MsSouthern wrote: »
    I read this morning that The Girl Scouts aren't on board with this or allowing boys in their troops

    Yeah this is the not scouts on some clean up their image type shit
  • DoUwant2go2HeavenDoUwant2go2Heaven When the first trumpet sounds!!!! Agggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!! Babylon the GreatPosts: 10,420 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AggieLean. wrote: »
    Smh.

    Amen
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  • playmaker88playmaker88 Boy, I tell you that's vision Like Tony Romo when he hitting Witten Posts: 67,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At first i was like wtf.. is this shit.. thinking it stems form that weirdo movement going on.. but this has value.. Then i saw som

    Having young boys and girls cohabitate and learn a little more about each other at the early age, it will help socialize the and learn a lot of different skills.. yea they should merge.. after seeing gabi and vibes post..

    but non of that interplanetary shit
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  • Madame_CJSkywalkerMadame_CJSkywalker Posts: 929 ✭✭✭✭
    PureYang wrote: »
    This growing stigma against gender roles is pretty interesting, and will more than likely define my generation in relation to others.

    I don't see any thing wrong with them. It's when it's systemically imposed that people are forced be one way or the other, that should be stigmatized imo.

    That's it.

    ppl make up systems is the issue
  • aneed123aneed123 Posts: 23,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As an eagle scout, I'm cool with it as long as you dissolve the girl scouts and/or combine the two and just call it Scouts as stayed before.

    I'm cool with egalitarianism as long as its true egalitarianism and not this pseudo egalitarian bullshit where women are afforded the exact same opportunities, power, ect but without the same expectation of performance, stardands, accountability, and/or responsibility as men are. They can almost always fall back on their femininity in regards to shortcomings.

    That's the real problem most men have with women "invading" traditional male spaces and/or roles. It's not that they are female it's that they are often held to lower standards , get special consessions for the same positions as men yet expect men to respect them as equalsoften times for doing less.

    So yeah I'm cool with it and any other male space a woman wants to be apart of as long as the female space is dissolved and she is held to the exact same standards as men/boys under the same circumstances. You shouldn't get to invade male spaces and keep your female space while simultaneously inevitably changing/destroying the culture of the male space and getting special privileges to help you do both.

    They dont want that they want to be able to join boy scouts while having girls scouts exclusively just for females.. smh
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  •  i ro ny i ro ny Posts: 8,387 ✭✭✭✭✭


    this all started because a transgender boy was kicked out of the boy scouts.
    blackrain
  • blackrainblackrain Posts: 27,209 Regulator
    aneed123 wrote: »
    As an eagle scout, I'm cool with it as long as you dissolve the girl scouts and/or combine the two and just call it Scouts as stayed before.

    I'm cool with egalitarianism as long as its true egalitarianism and not this pseudo egalitarian bullshit where women are afforded the exact same opportunities, power, ect but without the same expectation of performance, stardands, accountability, and/or responsibility as men are. They can almost always fall back on their femininity in regards to shortcomings.

    That's the real problem most men have with women "invading" traditional male spaces and/or roles. It's not that they are female it's that they are often held to lower standards , get special consessions for the same positions as men yet expect men to respect them as equalsoften times for doing less.

    So yeah I'm cool with it and any other male space a woman wants to be apart of as long as the female space is dissolved and she is held to the exact same standards as men/boys under the same circumstances. You shouldn't get to invade male spaces and keep your female space while simultaneously inevitably changing/destroying the culture of the male space and getting special privileges to help you do both.

    They dont want that they want to be able to join boy scouts while having girls scouts exclusively just for females.. smh

    This idea didn't stem from women. This is the boy scouts trying to make back money theyve lost in lawsuits
  • SneakDZASneakDZA damn, am I a sinner? Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i'm truly surprised people actually give a shit about this.
  • jonojono Right fist = power, left fist = unity Posts: 30,263 ✭✭✭✭✭
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    i'm truly surprised people actually give a shit about this.

    They really don't but it falls into a pattern of concerning behavior.

    On it's face, fixing this situation is simple: tell the girl no and move on.

    But letting the girl in now creates a whole new dynamic that has to be accounted for. She's not a boy and thus different things are needed that weren't needed before.
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  • DoubleShotHelixDoubleShotHelix Posts: 488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    i'm truly surprised people actually give a shit about this.

    Because it's indicative of a deeper gynocentric culture.

    Their incessant need to shoehorn themselves into male spaces and have the culture changed around and for them while maintaining the sanctity of their of spaces and ideologies.
  • Madame_CJSkywalkerMadame_CJSkywalker Posts: 929 ✭✭✭✭
    jono wrote: »
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    i'm truly surprised people actually give a shit about this.

    But letting the girl in now creates a whole new dynamic that has to be accounted for. She's not a boy and thus different things are needed that weren't needed before.

    like what? these are children and maybe pre-teens

    concerning behavior?
  • blackrainblackrain Posts: 27,209 Regulator
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    i'm truly surprised people actually give a shit about this.

    Because it's indicative of a deeper gynocentric culture.

    Their incessant need to shoehorn themselves into male spaces and have the culture changed around and for them while maintaining the sanctity of their of spaces and ideologies.

    So the fact that the boy scouts initiated this means?
  • CottonCitySlimCottonCitySlim Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Turfaholic wrote: »
    Koltrain wrote: »
    This is dumb... just combine the two orgs at this point...cause the next step is for boys to be allowed in girl scouts.. Either way, I don't like the direction society is headed with gender identification.

    This is the key that vibe and Ms. Southern are missing. No racism, but this is a blurred line that only white people seem to not see. Allowing boys to go to school dressed as girls. I have nothing against the gays or lesbians. I might crack jokes about them. But I'm comfortable in my own skin to not be disturbed by them. I've held many conversations with flamboyant gay men. Had transgendered people attempt to flirt with me. Thought nothing of it. My issue is adults pushing a narrative that gender is a choice, not nature. "Boys can do whatever girls can, and vice versa. The choice is yours". If you wanna live a gay life lil nigga, live a gay life. I just hope a kid isn't influenced to that lifestyle because adults set the standard that there is no such thing as genders. The tone is starting to be set that if a man chooses to live as a woman, everybody else is supposed to just pretend that woman wasn't born with a penis. That's insanity.

    Gender is a choice, it's a social construct

    Sex is not a choice

    People stay confusing the 2
  • DoubleShotHelixDoubleShotHelix Posts: 488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 12
    blackrain wrote: »
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    i'm truly surprised people actually give a shit about this.

    Because it's indicative of a deeper gynocentric culture.

    Their incessant need to shoehorn themselves into male spaces and have the culture changed around and for them while maintaining the sanctity of their of spaces and ideologies.

    So the fact that the boy scouts initiated this means?

    Again, all inclusive gynocentric culture in an attempt to be progressive watering down the culture.

    It's akin to black Americans accepting anyone with rhythm that might have colored with a black crayon at some point in life as black. Meanwhile no other culture would do the same for you.

    In this case boy scouts trying to be kumbyah progressive and all inclusive meanwhile if a little boy tries to join girl scouts see what happens.

    That's how cultures, empires, movements get destroyed a lot of the time you start being a little too friendly, too accommodating, too accepting and little shit starts to change and you shrug it off cause it's miniscule to the big picture then one day you wake up and the black power movement has been taken over by the lbtglmnop community and now they're pushing their agenda under your banner and you're a social pariah in your own movement.

    That's why even though theyre my enemies I can understand and empathize with the alt right movement and I wish black Americans would take a hard line stance like that. Stop letting everyone in your house because eventually they'll change the culture, ideology, direction, and message so much that you'll be the outsider in your own shit.

    Meanwhile, I bet they won't let you in their shit. And if they just so happen to let you in I bet they aren't going to allow you to change ideology, policy, ect you're going to have to acquiesce to their shit.
  • KoltrainKoltrain Mr. MOPosts: 4,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    blackrain wrote: »
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    i'm truly surprised people actually give a shit about this.

    Because it's indicative of a deeper gynocentric culture.

    Their incessant need to shoehorn themselves into male spaces and have the culture changed around and for them while maintaining the sanctity of their of spaces and ideologies.

    So the fact that the boy scouts initiated this means?

    They initiated in response to being sued..the question is why were there successful lawsuits against them for not allowing girls in?
  • blackrainblackrain Posts: 27,209 Regulator
    Koltrain wrote: »
    blackrain wrote: »
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    i'm truly surprised people actually give a shit about this.

    Because it's indicative of a deeper gynocentric culture.

    Their incessant need to shoehorn themselves into male spaces and have the culture changed around and for them while maintaining the sanctity of their of spaces and ideologies.

    So the fact that the boy scouts initiated this means?

    They initiated in response to being sued..the question is why were there successful lawsuits against them for not allowing girls in?

    The lawsuits werent about them not letting girls in. They were about sexual abuse allegations
  • blackrainblackrain Posts: 27,209 Regulator
    blackrain wrote: »
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    i'm truly surprised people actually give a shit about this.

    Because it's indicative of a deeper gynocentric culture.

    Their incessant need to shoehorn themselves into male spaces and have the culture changed around and for them while maintaining the sanctity of their of spaces and ideologies.

    So the fact that the boy scouts initiated this means?

    Again, all inclusive gynocentric culture in an attempt to be progressive watering down the culture.

    It's akin to black Americans accepting anyone with rhythm that might have colored with a black crayon at some point in life as black. Meanwhile no other culture would do the same for you.

    In this case boy scouts trying to be kumbyah progressive and all inclusive meanwhile if a little boy tries to join girl scouts see what happens.

    That's how cultures, empires, movements get destroyed a lot of the time you start being a little too friendly, too accommodating, too accepting and little shit starts to change and you shrug it off cause it's miniscule to the big picture then one day you wake up and the black power movement has been taken over by the lbtglmnop community and now they're pushing their agenda under your banner and you're a social pariah in your own movement.

    That's why even though theyre my enemies I can understand and empathize with the alt right movement and I wish black Americans would take a hard line stance like that. Stop letting everyone in your house because eventually they'll change the culture, ideology, direction, and message so much that you'll be the outsider in your own shit.

    Meanwhile, I bet they won't let you in their shit. And if they just so happen to let you in I bet they aren't going to allow you to change ideology, policy, ect you're going to have to acquiesce to their shit.

    Yeah you're way off. This isn't about being progressive. Its a money grab because they're hurting after paying out lawsuit settlements. Hence why the girl scouts are like fuck no to the concept because they don't need the money
  • SneakDZASneakDZA damn, am I a sinner? Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    i'm truly surprised people actually give a shit about this.

    Because it's indicative of a deeper gynocentric culture.

    Their incessant need to shoehorn themselves into male spaces and have the culture changed around and for them while maintaining the sanctity of their of spaces and ideologies.

    Boy scouts is only a "male space" due to archaic sexist beliefs. Plenty of girls like to go in the woods, cross little old ladies across the street and and other wack shit besides trying to get laid (which is what a normal kid should be doing at that age in my opinion).

    What's the big deal if a girl is there when some kids go on a hike and roast some damn marshmallows? People need to grow up.

    Also lol @ "gynocentric culture". Women outnumber men and most definitely are not even nearly equally represented in terms of their basic interests. You guys must get beat up by your wives or something. It's gotta be a reason for all this anti-women sentiment on this site.
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