UPTOWN (CONNEXX) wrote: »
iiiight so can yall tell me exactly what i need to know to get to where yall are??
i see mega peeps in here talking about starting with help desk .... but what else??
southern_mr.337 wrote: »
Man I just took my Sec+ a couple days ago. Glad I read that damn book end to end. Got a 805 first cert. Nigga was happy as shit lol, now I got this Net+ in my hands. Back on the grind.
Rell, major pain is right. You gotta have that Sec+ as your basic foundation. Government jobs won't even accept you now unless you got a homie hookup and that's pushin it. I don't know how corporate IT operate but I'm pretty sure there are guidelines for them also.
Uptown you could probably start in systems if you prove yourself during your tech interview. Usually just some scenario type questions and practical knowledge. For now man get those basic certs. Each one has their own path. One other thing to note is that CompTIA A+, N+, S+ are lifetime certs until Jan 2011 then you have to re-cert everything 3yrs. These other guys can explain more to you in regards to what track to take.
King Erauno wrote: »
good lookin out...i was planning on taking all 3 next couple of months and was dreading having to take them again in 3 years...i thought that shit had already started...i still got time
major pain wrote: »
A+ is worthless unless you are looking for a desktop support role somewhere.
N+ should be a gateway for certs from Cisco or Juniper etc. Once you get those N+ wont matter.
S+ is good, but will only go so far and should be considered a gateway for more advanced certs as well.
You wont find many opportunities out there with any of these as requirements except the A+.
konceptjones wrote: »
Not really. A degree can open some doors, sure. Certifications typically mean you know your shit, and that's what a lot of managers care about more than anything else.
I had an EE come in here fresh out of college, he got assigned to a team I was on and we were going to be programming more than anything. When we started talking about writing sockets, kernel interfaces and shit dude's eyes got big like a Tom and Jerry cartoon. He was like "ummm... I'm a double E... I don't know anything about programming!!!", to which we replied that we needed to write drivers for an interface that we were also designing... even that got him worried because he was pretty basic with his EE skills.. .shit even I was more experienced that he was and I hadn't touched circuit design since I was in high school.
shit was a giant SMH moment for everyone.
a degree says you went to class and studied to pass tests.
Ioniz3dSPIRITZ wrote: »
Perhaps I'll receive certification after my degree. How did you go about getting certified? Were you always computer savvy?
major pain wrote: »
A degree shows you have the ability to learn something.
A certification (should) show you have mastered a certain level of knowledge and can apply it.
2 very different things when it comes to employment.
The easiest answer is going to be have both.
Not having a degree but a certification, will close a few doors for you. As in the case if you want to pursue management. Most manager positions will require a Bachelor's at minimum.
As far as getting certified, well it depends on what exactly you are looking for. There are TONS of certifications for IT. You will usually go to the vendor specifically for their certification. Like Microsoft, IBM, or Cisco.
coolestkidukno wrote: »
helpdesk nigga post.........
Perfect wrote: »
imma go grab a networking for dummies book tomorrow. gotta start somewhere lol
i graduate spring '12, hopefully by then i'll have some kind of cert also and be able to land a decent job. shyt i'm so behind lol. like the dude said above me about college, i been studyin to pass tests, i aint done any outside reading or experimentin. time to grow the fck up tho
traestar wrote: »
At least I got the position as a Computer Scientist!! Tech interviews are going to be my main problem moving forward!
Shout out to the "I hate my damn life" gang
I'm a janitor at an IT company, does that count?