The Official Dwayne Michael Carter Jr aka Lil Wayne aka Weezy F Baby etc Thread...

KingJamal

choppa_style wrote: »

I thought it was common knowledge that Gillie Da Kid was writing his shit in the past. Once that relationship died he had to start writing for himself.

With the release of Tha Carter 4 its increasingly obvious that this is true

SunZoo_aka_LC

i'm so high..................

















i can eat a star...........

Ricky.G

KingJamal wrote: »

With the release of Tha Carter 4 its increasingly obvious that this is true

are you guys stupid gillie said himself he never wrote anything for wayne but guild him on how to make his lyrics strong. thats not writin for him .

wmj710

I couldn't stand lil wayne pre carter 1

KingJamal

R.Greezy wrote: »

are you guys stupid gillie said himself he never wrote anything for wayne but guild him on how to make his lyrics strong. thats not writin for him .

U better calm the fuck down down

blackrain

KingJamal wrote: »

With the release of Tha Carter 4 its increasingly obvious that this is true

Gillie said plenty times he never wrote for Wayne...even when the nigga himself denies the rumors people still saying he's lying lol

KingJamal

blackrain wrote: »

Gillie said plenty times he never wrote for Wayne...even when the nigga himself denies the rumors people still saying he's lying lol

Well he might not of wrote his lyrics but he coached him on changing his flow and everything

Ricky.G

http://www.xxlmag.com/old-main/2006/07/gillie-da-kid-behind-the-music/

he says it rite there .

dalyricalbandit

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Ricky.G

KingJamal wrote: »

U better calm the fuck down down

wtf u gonna do pussy

SunZoo_aka_LC

gillie wrote a good chunk of carter i, this is a known fact in the streets... gillie was under contract, he gotta say what he gotta say

KingJamal

R.Greezy wrote: »

Im sorry I didn't mean any disrespect I apologize

I thought so. Now

f.e.d.s.

dalyricalbandit wrote: »

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need that right there

Ricky.G

KingJamal wrote: »

I thought so. Now

u fukin pussssy

birdcallaveli

smh at dumb ass niggas still thinking gillie wrote for wayne. gillie was birdmans writer and along with mikkey halsted he helped wayne develop a real flow.

JokerzWyld

I swear i was going to make this thread.

One theory i have is that he switched up Ghostwriters. I don't know. I want to give Wayne credit, i want him to be dope but he's far too inconsistent as far as quality is concerned. He had flashes of greatness on C2 and features like Ja Rule's "Uh Oh" where he ripped Ja to pieces. I thought that he would have had time in jail to write some heat like that again, and i was honestly impressed by "6 foot 7 foot", which i thought was better than "A Millie", but the rest of C4 is underwhelming to say the least. Let's take the "Intro, Interlude, & Outro" for example; when Wayne did "Fly In, Carter II, Fly Out" he sounded hungry and vicious but on C4, even though he used the same format, he got ripped the pieces. He couldn't come up with one good verse to compete with Busta, Andre, Nas, Tech, Bun, & even Shyne. If that had been one song he would have been completely embarrassed on his own album.

He had almost a year to write hot music with a sober mind and C4 is all he has to show for it?? I wanted Wayne to be successful and lyrically gifted but he's actually getting worse. It's shameful. Maybe he's lazy. On C2 & C1 he was pretty much all on his own; the success of his label and himself depended on him making quality music. Well now that he has Drake and Nicki among others, he can afford to bullshit a little bit. I don't know what it is, but i can't make excuses for lackluster music and talent. He needs to step his game up. The so-called "Best Rapper Alive" gets ripped by everybody on his own album, and yet people still feel that he's GOAT. Busta Rhymes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wayne.

Ricky.G

JokerzWyld wrote: »

I swear i was going to make this thread.

One theory i have is that he switched up Ghostwriters. I don't know. I want to give Wayne credit, i want him to be dope but he's far too inconsistent as far as quality is concerned. He had flashes of greatness on C2 and features like Ja Rule's "Uh Oh" where he ripped Ja to pieces. I thought that he would have had time in jail to write some heat like that again, and i was honestly impressed by "6 foot 7 foot", which i thought was better than "A Millie", but the rest of C4 is underwhelming to say the least. Let's take the "Intro, Interlude, & Outro" for example; when Wayne did "Fly In, Carter II, Fly Out" he sounded hungry and vicious but on C4, even though he used the same format, he got ripped the pieces. He couldn't come up with one good verse to compete with Busta, Andre, Nas, Tech, Bun, & even Shyne. If that had been one song he would have been completely embarrassed on his own album.

He had almost a year to write hot music with a sober mind and C4 is all he has to show for it?? I wanted Wayne to be successful and lyrically gifted but he's actually getting worse. It's shameful. Maybe he's lazy. On C2 & C1 he was pretty much all on his own; the success of his label and himself depended on him making quality music. Well now that he has Drake and Nicki among others, he can afford to bullshit a little bit. I don't know what it is, but i can't make excuses for lackluster music and talent. He needs to step his game up. The so-called "Best Rapper Alive" gets ripped by everybody on his own album, and yet people still feel that he's GOAT. Busta Rhymes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wayne.

wtf u tlkin bout gtfo

JokerzWyld

R.Greezy wrote: »

wtf u tlkin bout gtfo

are you serious?

He sonned Ja.

dalyricalbandit

f.e.d.s. wrote: »

need that right there

u aint the only one fam

YoungGoldie

KingJamal wrote: »

Sometime after Tha Carter II it seemed like he became a totally different person. He's one of the few rappers to drastically improve then get drastically worse than they were when they 1st started rapping. It's almost like he's a different person.

So wat do u think happened to him

I know that Mannie leaving Cash Money has lot to do with it but that can't be the only reason.

He used to rap like this

Now he's complete trash

If dis is trash,call me Fred G Sanford

Ricky.G

JokerzWyld wrote: »

are you serious?

He sonned Ja.

naaah bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb

ROZAYTABERNACLE

JokerzWyld wrote: »

are you serious?

He sonned Ja.

I agree with you. Wayne >>> Ja for real. DOnt know what they're listening to lol

JokerzWyld

hip-hopisalive wrote: »

I agree with you. Wayne >>> Ja for real. DOnt know what they're listening to lol

Niggaz trollin

f.e.d.s.

should've been on the mixtape, but I like the Wayne-less version better

georgia boi

Nothing happened to Wayne. It's more or less people stepping out of the twilight zone and realizing that he wasn't "the best rapper alive". Weak punchlines, non sensical lines, and mediocre songwriting have always plagued Wayne's music. People just got caught up in all of the hype behind him becoming more of a technical MC which balooned into people thinking he was a Jay Z and Nas level lyricist.

Basically, every Wayne album since the first Carter suffers from everything people are complaining about on Carter IV. Now that he's more popular and the mainstream are on the bandwagon and are co-signing the mediocrity, the people that enjoyed the first two Carter albums dislike the more commercial, "artistic" last two Carter albums. It happened to DMX, 50 and now it's happening to Wayne. The only difference is, it seems to have not have affected Wayne's popularity.