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'To the Westcoast haters We will bust yo schitt' - Q Tip (1995) (2Pac beef)

water ur seedswater ur seeds Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 2010 in The Reason
I never really payed this line to much attention years ago, until that pussyole SpunkFlex diss came out recently, and I listened to that clip on 'In His Own Words' for the first time in ageeeees, and herd 2Pac call out Q Tip... This must Be why Pac was heated at Q Tip, its A pointless shot, obviously aimed at Death Row...

Dont thing where anymore exchanges between them... Was there???

For the record this is A dope tune lol Q-Tip is one of the GOATS, and Tupac is the GOAT... Glad nothing really came of it, same with the De La shots...

'The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, but it's what you do with it that matters.'

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  • bankrupt ballerbankrupt baller Posts: 12,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2010
    qtip was giving out herpes in poetic justice thats why hes mad lol
  • Smo-King LocsSmo-King Locs Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭
    edited November 2010
    west>>>>>>>>>east
    south>>>>>>>>>>>.east
    midwest>>>>>>>>>>east
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  • AboveTheClouds.AboveTheClouds. Posts: 151
    edited November 2010
    west>>>>>>>>>east
    south>>>>>>>>>>>.east
    midwest>>>>>>>>>>east

    fail.......................
  • water ur seedswater ur seeds Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2010
    qtip was giving out herpes in poetic justice thats why hes mad lol


    hahahahahaha
    'The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, but it's what you do with it that matters.'

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  • just.might.b.okjust.might.b.ok Posts: 6,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2010
    south isnt better than east, lmao wtf.
    Judge a man by his character and not by his wealth
    A real G, i never kissed niggas or shot myself
    Gangsta Gibbs
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  • gee757gee757 Posts: 26,289
    edited November 2010
    q tip wasnt 2 bright cuz pac was from NY not da westcoast pac wouldve smash'd tip n 96 smh...
  • goldenjagoldenja Posts: 6,345 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2010
    i like this shit
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  • water ur seedswater ur seeds Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2010
    CirocObama wrote: »
    Ohhhhh..ay T/S props my nigga. I always wanted to hear what Pac was refering to when he called out Q-Tip.

    Funny thing is as the years gone by ppl finally starting to see that Pac was right about ALOT (not everything) of shit.


    yeah i always wondered to, i showed my bredren the flex diss, and said i wonder why pac took a shot at him, he mentioned this tune, i was like shit yeah, i can see why pac was kinda mad... pac was just standing up for himself and the coast... pac wasnt just the only one causing beef, the eastcoast also sparked shit, pac just called them out extra hard and publicly when they said something, like if you gonna say something say it loud pussyoles
    'The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, but it's what you do with it that matters.'

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  • LlahsramLlahsram Posts: 1,184 ✭✭
    edited November 2010
    gee757 wrote: »
    q tip wasnt 2 bright cuz pac was from NY not da westcoast pac wouldve smash'd tip n 96 smh...

    Yeah but he was representing the West Coast. It's not where your from but where your at.
  • gee757gee757 Posts: 26,289
    edited November 2010
    Llahsram wrote: »
    Yeah but he was representing the West Coast. It's not where your from but where your at.

    pac said when he was sayin westside that was fa deathrow & when he was throwin up da W that meant WAR not westside thatz y pac was doin 1nation 2 kill all that east & west non sense....
  • LlahsramLlahsram Posts: 1,184 ✭✭
    edited November 2010
    gee757 wrote: »
    pac said when he was sayin westside that was fa deathrow & when he was throwin up da W that meant WAR not westside thatz y pac was doin 1nation 2 kill all that east & west non sense....

    That "W' for War interview wasn't that the last interview he did with Sway?
  • mekmek Posts: 95
    edited November 2010
    pac was all about the west, though he loved the east
  • CapitalBCapitalB all these dollars.. no sense. Posts: 24,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2010
    i dont even think Q-tip believed that shit! hahaha
    TOO REAL for IC
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  • gee757gee757 Posts: 26,289
    edited November 2010
    Llahsram wrote: »
    That "W' for War interview wasn't that the last interview he did with Sway?

    nah.......
  • water ur seedswater ur seeds Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2010
    gee757 wrote: »
    pac said when he was sayin westside that was fa deathrow & when he was throwin up da W that meant WAR not westside thatz y pac was doin 1nation 2 kill all that east & west non sense....


    the 'one nation' album was gonna be on 'euthenasia records' not 'death row'... pac only had beef with bad boy and people that where dissing the west... he was trying to stay cool with the rest new york and work with them, he had love for them, it was only certain rappers he was warring with
    'The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, but it's what you do with it that matters.'

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  • SunflowaSeedsSunflowaSeeds Posts: 12,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2010
    Why do I feel the need to say nh @ your username?
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  • gee757gee757 Posts: 26,289
    edited December 2010
    the 'one nation' album was gonna be on 'euthenasia records' not 'death row'... pac only had beef with bad boy and people that where dissing the west... he was trying to stay cool with the rest new york and work with them, he had love for them, it was only certain rappers he was warring with

    smh & lol@ u tryna tell me sumthang cuz euthenasia was MAKAVELI RECORDZ/DEATHROW...

    & FA DA RECORD TUPAC WAS NOT JUST DISSIN EAST RAPPERZ HE WAS SHITTIN ON WESTCOAST BITCHZ 2 LIKE GAY AZZ DRE & SNITCH DOGG PAC GAVE IT 2 ANYBODY THAT WAS FAKE!
  • water ur seedswater ur seeds Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2010
    gee757 wrote: »
    smh & lol@ u tryna tell me sumthang cuz euthenasia was MAKAVELI RECORDZ/DEATHROW...

    & FA DA RECORD TUPAC WAS NOT JUST DISSIN EAST RAPPERZ HE WAS SHITTIN ON WESTCOAST BITCHZ 2 LIKE GAY AZZ DRE & SNITCH DOGG PAC GAVE IT 2 ANYBODY THAT WAS FAKE!



    lol first off, i wasnt talking about him dissing westcoast rappers, no1 is... everyman and his dog knows he was dissing dre... this is about the dj's and rappers from eastcoast...

    secondly, makaveli records was not part of death row... thats one reason or one part of the theory about suge killing him, pac wanted to take all the masters from death row and take them to makaveli records, suge found out and went ape shit... pac also told the outlawz not to sign with death row after he died, he knew that he would die...

    thirdly, makaveli and euthanasia arnt the same company either lol... euthanasia is a production company not a record label...
    'The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, but it's what you do with it that matters.'

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  • gee757gee757 Posts: 26,289
    edited December 2010
    lol first off, i wasnt talking about him dissing westcoast rappers, no1 is... everyman and his dog knows he was dissing dre... this is about the dj's and rappers from eastcoast...

    secondly, makaveli records was not part of death row... thats one reason or one part of the theory about suge killing him, pac wanted to take all the masters from death row and take them to makaveli records, suge found out and went ape shit... pac also told the outlawz not to sign with death row after he died, he knew that he would die...

    thirdly, makaveli and euthanasia arnt the same company either lol... euthanasia is a production company not a record label...

    but q tip was tryna act like pac was just dissin NY/EASTCOAST RAPPERZ when he was ridin on westcoast bitchz 2 thatz y i said that tip had pac confused....& again ya wroong look...

    'Napoleon then talks about Tupac's new record label, Makaveli/Euthanasia Records, and says he "wasn't sure" whether it was to be distributed through Death Row. However, if it was such an obvious fact that Tupac was definitely going to leave Death Row, the mere possibility wouldn't exist. Also, according to a December 1999 Source interview with the Outlawz, the label WAS to be distributed through Death Row. Death Row also confirmed this fact, just as MC Hammer, Snoop Dogg and Eric B. were to have their own labels distributed through Death Row.' - 2pac assassination dvd
    http://www.amazon.com/review/R24W87YL5PBMOW?cdPage=2&asin=B000WDTNZS&store=dvd
  • water ur seedswater ur seeds Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2010
    gee757 wrote: »
    but q tip was tryna act like pac was just dissin NY/EASTCOAST RAPPERZ when he was ridin on westcoast bitchz 2 thatz y i said that tip had pac confused....& again ya wroong look...

    'Napoleon then talks about Tupac's new record label, Makaveli/Euthanasia Records, and says he "wasn't sure" whether it was to be distributed through Death Row. However, if it was such an obvious fact that Tupac was definitely going to leave Death Row, the mere possibility wouldn't exist. Also, according to a December 1999 Source interview with the Outlawz, the label WAS to be distributed through Death Row. Death Row also confirmed this fact, just as MC Hammer, Snoop Dogg and Eric B. were to have their own labels distributed through Death Row.' - 2pac assassination dvd
    http://www.amazon.com/review/R24W87YL5PBMOW?cdPage=2&asin=B000WDTNZS&store=dvd


    q tip never acted like tupac was only dissing east coast rappers, he never acted anyway... and the fact is pac only fell out with dre in 96... and it was only dre that 2pac PUBLICLY dissed (behind doors he talked about snoop not repping hard enough and he battered sam sneed) but FOR THE MOST PART only publicly dissed eastcoast rappers in interviews and tunes...alhto he fell out with alot of people in oakland, but thats not relevent...

    q tip never directly dissed pac, as far as i know it was only that line 'westcoast haters we will bust yo shit' pac took that as a diss to the whole west, so he took it personally and addressed an interview...

    i dont believe makaveli was gonna be distributed thru death row either... no way... why would he want that, when he knew that suge had robbed him of millions, because its obvious that he would continue to do so... he told the outlawz not to sign to death row when he dies, he referred to signing with the row as a making a deal or signing with the devil... he wanted out from death row, he couldnt come out say 'i want to leave death row' he would of had to do it on the low and cleaver... hence wanting to take his masters, as thats the most valuable thing to an musician... thats why fatal left the outlawz because he wanted to honor pacs wishes...

    napoleon said he didnt know who was gonna distribute makaveli records... how many times when someone asked you to keep something quite have you said 'i dont know' or 'im not sure' lol he would of said 'yes, its going to be' rather than a ???

    ive read all the pac books and seen all the dvds and interviews and that white dude talking shit in that video is a dickhead, he called makaveli euthanasia records for starters... he dont know the ins and outs, neither do we, but he aint even in our culture, and dont know how the snakes, the streets and deceitful people work... of course people are gonna change parts of their storys, a) coz their scared... b) who says the truth in a police interview and c) to protect them selves...

    pac and suge where more of a connivence to each other, not a friendship, suge said himself their relationship was 'to get this money' how can you be like brothers or best friends in less than a year of knowing each other... suge knew pac would make him money, and pac knew suge could get him out of prison... pac knew suge tyson'd him, gave him what he wanted, but never owned shit... pac aint stupid, so he wanted out...
    'The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, but it's what you do with it that matters.'

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  • water ur seedswater ur seeds Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2010
    and it was napleons cousin that 'acidently' shot kadafi, and kadafi been the only dude who would talk to the police about who shot pac... the police didnt even offer him protection...
    'The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, but it's what you do with it that matters.'

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  • gee757gee757 Posts: 26,289
    edited December 2010
    q tip never acted like tupac was only dissing east coast rappers, he never acted anyway... and the fact is pac only fell out with dre in 96... and it was only dre that 2pac PUBLICLY dissed (behind doors he talked about snoop not repping hard enough and he battered sam sneed) but FOR THE MOST PART only publicly dissed eastcoast rappers in interviews and tunes...alhto he fell out with alot of people in oakland, but thats not relevent...

    q tip never directly dissed pac, as far as i know it was only that line 'westcoast haters we will bust yo shit' pac took that as a diss to the whole west, so he took it personally and addressed an interview...

    i dont believe makaveli was gonna be distributed thru death row either... no way... why would he want that, when he knew that suge had robbed him of millions, because its obvious that he would continue to do so... he told the outlawz not to sign to death row when he dies, he referred to signing with the row as a making a deal or signing with the devil... he wanted out from death row, he couldnt come out say 'i want to leave death row' he would of had to do it on the low and cleaver... hence wanting to take his masters, as thats the most valuable thing to an musician... thats why fatal left the outlawz because he wanted to honor pacs wishes...

    napoleon said he didnt know who was gonna distribute makaveli records... how many times when someone asked you to keep something quite have you said 'i dont know' or 'im not sure' lol he would of said 'yes, its going to be' rather than a ???

    ive read all the pac books and seen all the dvds and interviews and that white dude talking shit in that video is a dickhead, he called makaveli euthanasia records for starters... he dont know the ins and outs, neither do we, but he aint even in our culture, and dont know how the snakes, the streets and deceitful people work... of course people are gonna change parts of their storys, a) coz their scared... b) who says the truth in a police interview and c) to protect them selves...

    pac and suge where more of a connivence to each other, not a friendship, suge said himself their relationship was 'to get this money' how can you be like brothers or best friends in less than a year of knowing each other... suge knew pac would make him money, and pac knew suge could get him out of prison... pac knew suge tyson'd him, gave him what he wanted, but never owned shit... pac aint stupid, so he wanted out...

    so y did da OUTLAWZ say makaveli/euthanasia recordz was gonna b thru deathrow n da 99 source? & y was tupac n ny talkin about startin a DEATHROWEAST on sept 4 96 3 dayz b4 he got shot if he was leavin deathrow? u tryna tell me pac was sellin them dudez like da JERZEY MOB wolfticketz wit that deathroweast shit? i hope u know katz like ERIC B, CRAIG MACK & RUN DMC was all fuukin wit da row n 96
  • water ur seedswater ur seeds Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2010
    gee757 wrote: »
    so y did da OUTLAWZ say makaveli/euthanasia recordz was gonna b thru deathrow n da 99 source? & y was tupac n ny talkin about startin a DEATHROWEAST on sept 4 96 3 dayz b4 he got shot if he was leavin deathrow? u tryna tell me pac was sellin them dudez like da JERZEY MOB wolfticketz wit that deathrow east shit?



    like i said, euthanasia was a PRODUCTION company (movies etc) and like you posted up the outlawz said they didnt know if they where gonna be distributed thru death row...

    pac was trying to leave death row on the sly/low/sneak what ever you wanna call it, so hes not gonna go to the media and start going on about wanting to leave tha row because he feels suges robbing him, he would wanna keep it normal and cool, hence why he wanted to take the masters for himself ... suge was trying to create 'death row east' that was his thing not pacs, pac wanted to make 'one nation' on makaveli records not 'death row east' thats a conflict off interests right there init...


    i dont know where you get pac selling wolftickets from... pac was gonna sign them to makaveli regardless... syke was the only dude from thug life who looked out for him in prison, yak was his cousin, he would have their back regardless... i think mopreme was gonna be an outlaw to, but didnt wanna fck with suge or death row

    truth is, we will never know the full truth... its all speculation...
    'The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, but it's what you do with it that matters.'

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  • gee757gee757 Posts: 26,289
    edited December 2010
    like i said, euthanasia was a PRODUCTION company (movies etc) and like you posted up the outlawz said they didnt know if they where gonna be distributed thru death row...

    pac was trying to leave death row on the sly/low/sneak what ever you wanna call it, so hes not gonna go to the media and start going on about wanting to leave tha row because he feels suges robbing him, he would wanna keep it normal and cool, hence why he wanted to take the masters for himself ... suge was trying to create 'death row east' that was his thing not pacs, pac wanted to make 'one nation' on makaveli records not 'death row east' thats a conflict off interests right there init...


    i dont know where you get pac selling wolftickets from... pac was gonna sign them to makaveli regardless... syke was the only dude from thug life who looked out for him in prison, yak was his cousin, he would have their back regardless... i think mopreme was gonna be an outlaw to, but didnt wanna fck with suge or death row

    truth is, we will never know the full truth... its all speculation...

    wat r u talkin about da JERZEY MOB was da 1st act sign;d 2 deathroweast thatz da JERZEY MOB reppin DEATHROWEAST behind pac & suge n ny 3 dayz b4 he got shot n vegas n this clip

    u can ask YAKZ COUSIN 'RAH DIB' about that DEATHROWEAST SHIT...

    http://www.myspace.com/rahdib

    therr is no way pac was gonna get da JERZEY MOB on deathroweast & leave unless he was sellin WOLFTICKETZ!
  • water ur seedswater ur seeds Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2010
    gee757 wrote: »
    wat r u talkin about da JERZEY MOB was da 1st act sign;d 2 deathroweast thatz da JERZEY MOB reppin DEATHROWEAST behind pac & suge n ny 3 dayz b4 he got shot n vegas n this clip

    u can ask YAKZ COUSIN 'RAH DIB' about that DEATHROWEAST SHIT...

    http://www.myspace.com/rahdib

    therr is no way pac was gonna get da JERZEY MOB on deathroweast & leave unless he was sellin WOLFTICKETZ!

    2what does da jersey mob signing with death row east got to do with pac, suge signed them, pac cant control that, suge let them die, they dont even keep in contact with him, they started yelling we are the new outlawz lol pac was doin what suge told him... like i said, but kept the outlawz seprate ready to set up makaveli records and leave...

    pacs contract with death row was forfilled and out of date, he was a free agent...

    i cant check the vid at moment, but ive seen that video ages ago, him talking about mind over matter and believe in death row like jesus etc... like i said, he was gonna keep suge sweet until he up and left... him tryin to take his masters and his real friends outlawz not to sign when died is enough to tell you he wanted out...

    and i remember hearing yaks half brother said himself that pac wanted to leave death row in an interview somewhere

    either way, i had enough of this debate....
    'The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, but it's what you do with it that matters.'

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