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WTF was that ni99a Raekwon rhyming about on the cypher?

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  • thedesolateonethedesolateone Posts: 4,082
    The Lonious Monk wrote: »
    Nothing is beyond reproach. If you simply said you wasn't feeling the song or you respect Nas' music more than the Wu's. I would have said nothing. But you like everybody else on this site feel like if you don't like something, you have to make some ridiculous statement shitting on it. I post that video and me and another cat say we really like the song. So here you come with some "That is the worst shit blah blah blah" and calling it a sea of mediocrity and criticizing it for not being something it was never supposed to be in the first place. That shit is just silly. Then you throw Nas into this shit like every verse he drops is some Pullitzer Prize level shit on 10 levels of deepness. Yeah he has a lot of material that is like that. The Wu have a lot of material that is deeper than this song too. However, this was not meant to be one of those songs and I like it because of what it is not what it's not suppose to be.



    Tight song, but that verse is not Shakespeare. It's just Nas talking shit. Nothing special, but still good for what it's supposed to be.



    Frivolous verse on a frivolous song. Nothing special or particularly good about it at all.



    More frivolous shit. Nice song, but nothing lyrically spectacular.

    Seriously get off that shit. Every rapper has songs that are just supposed to be fun little rap expositions and nothing too deep.

    really what do you expect rhymin with snoop dog?that verse is better than the whole windmill song!
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  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Posts: 7,765
    thedesolateone wrote: »
    really what do you expect rhymin with snoop dog?that verse is better than the whole windmill song!

    Blah blah, I dropped three verses that I found easily, and your best counter is to blame snoop dog who was only on one of those songs. Just give it up. Made You Look is as good as Windmill, maybe a lil better. Neither of those other songs is as good as Windmill.
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  • thedesolateonethedesolateone Posts: 4,082
    hrap-120 wrote: »
    Yo king you dealin wit' a 85 non-cipher devil.

    When we build on Monk & Bird we buildin' on Blue Note, they think we buildin on Tibet & Cocaine....

    ^^^^^Decode and Decipher not needed for the chosen.

    harold melvin and the blue notes!nigga wtf r u talkin about!thelonius monk and big bird?i dont like a wu song now im the devil get the fuck outta here!
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  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Posts: 7,765
    thedesolateone wrote: »
    harold melvin and the blue notes!nigga wtf r u talkin about!thelonius monk and big bird?i dont like a wu song now im the devil get the fuck outta here!

    lol Case and point.
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  • thedesolateonethedesolateone Posts: 4,082
    The Lonious Monk wrote: »
    Blah blah, I dropped three verses that I found easily, and your best counter is to blame snoop dog who was only on one of those songs. Just give it up. Made You Look is as good as Windmill, maybe a lil better. Neither of those other songs is as good as Windmill.

    he was rhymin with the bravehearts!its like playing chess with beginners!made you look was better than the windmill song too!ill admit brave heart party was wack ok
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  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Posts: 7,765
    thedesolateone wrote: »
    he was rhymin with the bravehearts!its like playing chess with beginners!made you look was better than the windmill song too!ill admit brave heart party was wack ok

    I like Made You Look, but there was nothing about that song that was strikingly better than Windmill. It was a tight beat, and Nas just talking shit. Windmill is a tight beat with the Wu dudes just talking shit. To me, both songs are great. You on the other hand want to knock Windmill for not being Shakespeare but then praise Made You Look despite it also not being a deep song. Like I said, you don't like the song, that's cool. You prefer Nas, that's cool too. But these stupid justifications you're coming up with point to you just hating more than anything else.
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  • hrap-120hrap-120 Posts: 9,449
    The Lonious Monk wrote: »
    lol you do know 99% of the cats in here won't understand what the fuck you were just talking about right?

    LOL, thats the whole idea, we communicate with each other in our own language/slanguage so outsiders cant understand...Godbody.
    I just quoted your post (105) which is knowledge-cipher-power but if you not the Asiatic, cream-of-the-planet-earth you couldnt overstand that.

    "My wisdom's Ol' Earth just passed on the Fathers born day, and she been goin' 730 every since, so I copped her some Remy and broccoli to get her to iceberg"


    To the average person it sounds like gibberish but to us its just our thing.
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  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Posts: 7,765
    hrap-120 wrote: »
    LOL, thats the whole idea, we communicate with each other in our own language/slanguage so outsiders cant understand...Godbody.
    I just quoted your post (105) which is knowledge-cipher-power but if you not the Asiatic, cream-of-the-planet-earth you couldnt overstand that.

    "My wisdom's Ol' Earth just passed on the Fathers born day, and she been goin' 730 every since, so I copped her some Remy and broccoli to get her to iceberg"


    To the average person it sounds like gibberish but to us its just our thing.


    Yeah, but honestly it's a lack of intelligence. Anyone with basic reading comprehension and understanding of context clues should be able to read what you said and figure it out. However, these simple ass dudes take a quick look and immediately conclude it's just gibberish. I'm not a 5%er but I can understand what they are saying. It's not rocket science. It's just about using your brain.
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  • thedesolateonethedesolateone Posts: 4,082
    The Lonious Monk wrote: »
    I like Made You Look, but there was nothing about that song that was strikingly better than Windmill. It was a tight beat, and Nas just talking shit. Windmill is a tight beat with the Wu dudes just talking shit. To me, both songs are great. You on the other hand want to knock Windmill for not being Shakespeare but then praise Made You Look despite it also not being a deep song. Like I said, you don't like the song, that's cool. You prefer Nas, that's cool too. But these stupid justifications you're coming up with point to you just hating more than anything else.

    all im saying is gzas verse saved the song.my favorite wu albums are wu forever and the w.seems like they had quality control back then.iron flag i still hold as the worst one but then again im a devil 85 er
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  • The Lonious MonkThe Lonious Monk Posts: 7,765
    thedesolateone wrote: »
    all im saying is gzas verse saved the song.my favorite wu albums are wu forever and the w.seems like they had quality control back then.iron flag i still hold as the worst one but then again im a devil 85 er

    I agree with you to a point. Although, I think 36 Chambers and Wu Forever are by far the best. I think The W and Iron Flag are both ok, but both had room for improvement. I think 8D is good. People don't really give it a chance because it's so different from what they were expecting, but it is quality IMO. I'd rank their albums like this

    36 Chambers
    Wu Forever
    8 Diagrams
    The W ~= Iron Flag

    As a group they definitely lost a lot of their spark and hunger as a group, but I still think their music was decent.
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  • hrap-120hrap-120 Posts: 9,449
    The Lonious Monk wrote: »
    Yeah, but honestly it's a lack of intelligence. Anyone with basic reading comprehension and understanding of context clues should be able to read what you said and figure it out. However, these simple ass dudes take a quick look and immediately conclude it's just gibberish. I'm not a 5%er but I can understand what they are saying. It's not rocket science. It's just about using your brain.
    I agree 100.

    Its far from gibberish, we call it "science", Raekwon is a master of encoding his rhymes in a matter that caters to our esoteric and street knowledge. You dont have to be a Black, NY 5% from the streets of Staten Island but it helps.

    raekwon3.jpg

    I dont expect people that havent seen the Jon Woo movie "Hard Boiled" to understand the picture above, but the people that have understand the reference and appreciate it.



    thedesolateone wrote: »
    all im saying is gzas verse saved the song.my favorite wu albums are wu forever and the w.seems like they had quality control back then.iron flag i still hold as the worst one but then again im a devil 85 er

    There is no difference in being an 85er to being "Goyum" according to Jews or a "non-believer" to a muslim.

    Being a Devil just means you aint an original man and one of the GODS.......non-cipher just means you aint up on the 120 lessons.

    If you didnt grow up seeing Blue-note records in your household how would you know that Charlie "Bird" Parker and Thelonious Monk references?

    The reason why Raekwon originally named his debut "Only built for Cuban Linx Niggas" is because he is speaking to and for a specific group of listeners, specifically brothers
    from Ny streets with Supreme Wisdom and expensive tastes.
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  • Trillip BrooksTrillip Brooks Posts: 14,437
    he was clearly trying to make a point as apose to trying to say something hot
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  • Trillip BrooksTrillip Brooks Posts: 14,437
    sboogie wrote: »
    stayin alive was no jive
    i had second hands
    moms bounced on old man
    so then we moved to shoalin land
    a young youth
    yo rockin the gold tooth.........

    i can relate........

    lol, me too
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  • thedesolateonethedesolateone Posts: 4,082
    NeighberHoodPusher wrote: »
    lol, me too

    my mom was a whore and i was a broke ass bum too! i can relate!lol
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  • khi_kobanekhi_kobane Posts: 41
    hrap-120 wrote: »
    Raekwons cipher verse


    Scottish Pit, scuffed kicks came from a rough flick
    Bugatti click, gems on the Roll' unfold the whip
    Black card, graffiti'd up     "Lean" me up,
    first thing beam me up, Im ol' school my whole team be up
    Spankin' hangovers, soldiers so slow from countin' boulders
    I go home baked-ziti up
    Don of all dishes my "Wiz" is "Lizz"
    I know she love me she bought me mad jewelry & whips
    But back to the projects youngin's callin' me legend
    Finish school imma buy you a "7"


    Seriously is the slanguage that hard to overstand, whats confusing about that??




    He lied to you.

    that's what the fuck i'm sayin.....there's a lot of faggotry afoot in here wit these niggas........how the fuck can't you understand what the man is sayin'???.....he ain't talkin' too fast..yall just listen too slow....
    i bet if he got in the cipher on some...."poff in the club/rollin' on dubs/rubber duck in the tub" shit yall niggas'll be on it.............stop being lazy listeners............T/S YOU SAID YOU FEEL GHOST BUT CAN'T UNDERSTAND RAE????????.....FAIL
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  • thedesolateonethedesolateone Posts: 4,082
    khi_kobane wrote: »
    that's what the fuck i'm sayin.....there's a lot of faggotry afoot in here wit these niggas........how the fuck can't you understand what the man is sayin'???.....he ain't talkin' too fast..yall just listen too slow....
    i bet if he got in the cipher on some...."poff in the club/rollin' on dubs/rubber duck in the tub" shit yall niggas'll be on it.............stop being lazy listeners............T/S YOU SAID YOU FEEL GHOST BUT CAN'T UNDERSTAND RAE????????.....FAIL

    i was just trollin his verse was ill but its so funny to make fun of him
    now can yall explain when he was in the interview with snoop from the wire and said his mouth was to little to suck dick?was that some slangua?
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  • thedesolateonethedesolateone Posts: 4,082
    [Raekwon the Chef]
    Aiyyo you killed me with that
    "Who bought this?" I bought that
    Knowin damn well in reality you bought jack
    You ain't lift one finger, but you claimin what's yours
    Runnin all through the house, bugged out, slammin doors
    We used to dress like twins - sweats, baby blue Timbs
    You even scratched my Benz, let the pigs in
    You think that I'm the biggest bird in America?
    Catch me on TV, I'm come back, never the...

    why would he end his verse saying nevera or never the?did he add and extra a just to rhyme with america?
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  • runningwolf1980runningwolf1980 Posts: 5,712
    if you dont understand tha wu it wasnt meant for you....digg?
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  • dat_bk_niccadat_bk_nicca Posts: 1,526
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    SMH I'm be staight with yall, i've never been a fan of dude like that, even though i'm a Wu head. Dude just throws together words imo, and makes no attempt to flow.I've always been more of a fan of Ghost than him, Rae just tries to put together words and not even use conjunctions, adjectives,etc. lol This nigga just threw some bs together on the cypher, you better come with some hot lines nigga. The best thing he said during the cypher was rest in peace to Deck's mom.


    dude will rhyme some shit like "politicing mafioso minds/high crimes/time lines/dun talk/wu wear walk/king tut diamonds in the eyes/Egyptians kingpin cries"lmfao
    dead
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