Is not responding to disses cowardly

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  • UK.HIPHOPUK.HIPHOP Posts: 76
    edited February 2010
    Jay not responding to game and beans lyrically is definitely cowardly, cos they cud give him competition

    it isn't if the artist sending for you is just doing so in an attempt 2 make a name 4 himself
  • freshb651freshb651 Posts: 6,175
    edited February 2010
    UK.HIPHOP wrote: »
    Jay not responding to game and beans lyrically is definitely cowardly, cos they cud give him competition

    it isn't if the artist sending for you is just doing so in an attempt 2 make a name 4 himself

    but most cats that send shots @ Jay are trying to make a name for themselves or promote their albums
  • boomboom Posts: 2,085
    edited February 2010
    its the new Jay-Z blueprint ... jay is a coward who wouldnt step up to competition such as Game.. who i think would slaughter Jay .. and Beans..

    i dont give a fuck if a nigga tryna make a name of you or not, if a nigga go atchu.. you slay that nigga.. aint no way he can make a name off you if you make him look like a fool ...
  • Fazeem_Blackall Fazeem_Blackall Posts: 4,216
    edited February 2010
    yes and not just Jay but any dude to cowardly to scrap back battling against disses is one of the Games fundamentals...
  • boomboom Posts: 2,085
    edited February 2010
    i swear man, these rappers of today have confused the generation who take in their music .. these niggas will say..

    "i got money"

    "i wont let him/her make a name off me"

    "i dont wanna give him/her publicity so i wont say no names"


    nah fuck that! i remember when if a nigga came atchu, big or small.. famous or not.. you slaughtered that nigga for bein such a fool for thinkin he could even compete..

    when i see niggas like Jay-Z .. i think of weakness ..


    now i aint talkin about hood shit, like havin real hood beefs.. cause that could lead to niggas gettin killed..

    but fuck in music its too many softies and the shit has circulated down to the people..

    these rappers training men to be boys and women to be bitches..
  • ambiguous1ambiguous1 Posts: 1,166
    edited February 2010
    i'll always stand by the fact that disses today need to be taken into context of who is saying what about who and where they are at in the game

    I didnt always have these feelings, and wish it wasnt this way, but too many cats now adays throwing stones and dissing for no reason but to better themselves.

    I never think you should back down from a diss or beef b/c "You have too much to lose"
  • fabionbackbitchfabionbackbitch Posts: 720
    edited February 2010
    Honest question, you're a senior in high school, everyone respects you. And a freshman steps to you trying to earn a name for himself talking shit. What's better, to shut down a lil' freshman, or to laugh at this nigga like "yo...go home son."
  • American Loo VII 3DAmerican Loo VII 3D Posts: 6,371
    edited February 2010
  • boomboom Posts: 2,085
    edited February 2010
    diss me an you never hear a reply for it



    theres a difference from just hearing your name mentioned in a line and a nigga actually GOING AT YOU ...
  • ambiguous1ambiguous1 Posts: 1,166
    edited February 2010
    boom wrote: »
    i swear man, these rappers of today have confused the generation who take in their music .. these niggas will say..

    "i got money"

    "i wont let him/her make a name off me"

    "i dont wanna give him/her publicity so i wont say no names"


    nah fuck that! i remember when if a nigga came atchu, big or small.. famous or not.. you slaughtered that nigga for bein such a fool for thinkin he could even compete..

    when i see niggas like Jay-Z .. i think of weakness ..


    now i aint talkin about hood shit, like havin real hood beefs.. cause that could lead to niggas gettin killed..

    but fuck in music its too many softies and the shit has circulated down to the people..

    these rappers training men to be boys and women to be bitches..


    times and the game has changed man, you can't just go at anyone that says your name anymore... you can but it's a win/lose situation
  • maximus prememaximus preme Posts: 1,995
    edited February 2010
    I don't know at some point you reach a status where you seriously don't have to. Jay-z already did the beef thing. He is past that. I don't have a problem with him not responding. I would like him to but its not necessary. Beefing on wax is for people who trying to get a name for themselves or who have a grudge. Established rappers like Nas, or Jay-z are sorta above the fray. I mean they can get into it but they sort of get a pass if they don't.
  • SCRATCHOFFSCRATCHOFF Posts: 688
    edited February 2010
    "A thoroughbred horse never looks at the other horses. It just concentrates on running the fastest race it can."

    Negroes (not just rappers) need to follow this..... If rappers worried more about their lyrical progression and music quality there would be a better hip hop.. if men worried about themselves instead of looking at the next dude and getting jealous we would have a better world...

    *steps off soapbox*
  • Fazeem_Blackall Fazeem_Blackall Posts: 4,216
    edited February 2010
    HipHop was built off of everyone battling for the top and those on top slaughter those that challenged them or losing that spot, this is just another problem with todays hiphop fan and artist they forgot they origins and what thisshit was built off of. This is just another example of how rappers are Selling out to the pop fans who do not understand or appreciate the aggressive nature of urban HipHop culture, HipHop is about respect and too many Kats now adays lack it for themselves and others. How many more fundamentals can be tossed before the shit is no longer considered HipHop???
  • SCRATCHOFFSCRATCHOFF Posts: 688
    edited February 2010
    beefing turned into actual violence, comedy skits , radio interviews, and twitter wars .. that ish aint hip hop everything so what you saying???
  • thedesolateonethedesolateone Posts: 4,496
    edited February 2010
    beanie sigel never answered canibus
    even in jay-z supposely diss song to pac i really cant find a diss
  • gee757gee757 Posts: 19,930
    edited February 2010
    j is 2 bizzy droppin musik & fuuukin b 2 b caught up n sum bs wwe rap beef wit clownz like gayme , cuuuurly, da broad street DUMMY especially since they need j 2 say they name 2 sell recordz jigga aint tryna help them clownz out wit fake rap wwe beef.,,.
  • curtis75blackcurtis75black Posts: 606
    edited February 2010
    HipHop was built off of everyone battling for the top and those on top slaughter those that challenged them or losing that spot, this is just another problem with todays hiphop fan and artist they forgot they origins and what thisshit was built off of. This is just another example of how rappers are Selling out to the pop fans who do not understand or appreciate the aggressive nature of urban HipHop culture, HipHop is about respect and too many Kats now adays lack it for themselves and others. How many more fundamentals can be tossed before the shit is no longer considered HipHop???

    100% Co-sign. Not responding is not only cowardly but it reeks of selling out. It's easy to throw subliminals but to truly go at someone takes mad heart and confidence. No one is above a battle. A challenge is a challenge no matter what level you're in the game.1996 to 2010 is only 14 years. give or take the "retirements". Regardless of what you accomplished or how your fans see you, Your name is still your name and no amount of money, fame or who you're fucking can't stop someone from stepping to you. Fans are gonna defend, that's what we do but at the end of the day whether you felt he lost or not, he should protect his own legacy. LL Cool J, KRS, Ice Cube all defended their legacy whether you agreed or not. You can't take that away from them.
  • FlyFreeCtFlyFreeCt Posts: 3,733
    edited February 2010
    100% Co-sign. Not responding is not only cowardly but it reeks of selling out. It's easy to throw subliminals but to truly go at someone takes mad heart and confidence. No one is above a battle. A challenge is a challenge no matter what level you're in the game.1996 to 2010 is only 14 years. give or take the "retirements". Regardless of what you accomplished or how your fans see you, Your name is still your name and no amount of money, fame or who you're fucking can't stop someone from stepping to you. Fans are gonna defend, that's what we do but at the end of the day whether you felt he lost or not, he should protect his own legacy. LL Cool J, KRS, Ice Cube all defended their legacy whether you agreed or not. You can't take that away from them.

    Cosign...By the way, fuck Drake http://www.zshare.net/audio/72478634e5e13478/
  • SCRATCHOFFSCRATCHOFF Posts: 688
    edited February 2010
    in TODAY's hip hop climate ... beefing in counter productive... end of story... the art of beefing is lost...
  • eyes loweyes low Posts: 3,361
    edited February 2010
    jay-z caught big Ls from the lox and nas he dont want it with anyone
  • Capo1Capo1 Posts: 789
    edited February 2010
    Responding is necessary most of the time, but not when people are calling you out to make a name for themselves. Furthermore, if you are one of the elite rappers, and an emcee on the lowest rung of the totem pole calls you out, it is a bad move to respond. For example, if Papoose disses Nas, there is no reason for Nas to respond.

    You will never see McDonalds mention Burger King or Wendy's in their ads, but the latter two will do it all the time with McDonalds. Ever wonder why?

    Its not smart to mention or "respond" to your competition if you're the top dog.
  • jjswipejjswipe Posts: 1,039
    edited February 2010
    Yes, not responding to a nigga throwing shots at you is very bitch made, cowardly, and anti hip hop. Niggas is really telling on themselves when they say cats shouldn't respond. That makes me think if a nigga talk about you, your mama, step on your shoes and then spit in your face, u gonna say 'i ain't finna pay this nigga no attention. He ain't finna make a name off fighting me' and just act like a nigga didn't just talk about you, your mama, step on your shoes and spit in your face. Now, we all know it's not going to that extent in rap (and no, 2pac did not die over no ec vs wc bullshit, that was gang banging), so is that why niggas feel like it's ok to not respond? Ol sticcs and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt ass niggas!!!! Like curtis75black said, all the greats defended their legacy. Even luke let snoop and dr dre have it after they put out dre day. ('cowards in compton' by luke, youtube it). Nelly got at krs-1 after krs tried to talk slicc on him, so don't sit here and act like people are to big or too small in hip hop to respond to a nigga that's asking for it. But, i guess in this new age of hip-hop where niggas kiss niggas, fabricate their life story and gang affiliations and etc, that shit flies.
  • usmarin3usmarin3 Posts: 34,243
    edited February 2010
    real beef = yes

    fake beefs = no


    99% of these beefs are faker than a 2 dollar bill, they usually have alterior motives (drum up publicity and gain attention). Most of these beefs aren't on some Pac and Biggie shit, more like 50 and Kanye shit. Plus if motherfuckers had to respond to everyone who came at them they would be battling no name rappers and people seeking fame. Rap is a joke nowadays.
  • Question AuthorityQuestion Authority Posts: 494
    edited February 2010
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    real beef = yes

    fake beefs = no


    99% of these beefs are faker than a 2 dollar bill, they usually have alterior motives (drum up publicity and gain attention). Most of these beefs aren't on some Pac and Biggie shit, more like 50 and Kanye shit. Plus if motherfuckers had to respond to everyone who came at them they would be battling no name rappers and people seeking fame. Rap is a joke nowadays.

    I agree with this. Some beefs just are insubstantial. And I don't see any point in responding to a nigga just off the basis of him calling you out.
  • SCRATCHOFFSCRATCHOFF Posts: 688
    edited February 2010
    Case in point... this is the climate of beef today.. Its not about me actually being a better rapper than you or even having an actual problem.. Its been saturated to name calling, talking about moms or baby moms, stepping on shoes... ish that happens in jr high... again while it started off as something competitive and thrived in the culture to something that is straight tom foolery...
    jjswipe wrote: »
    Yes, not responding to a nigga throwing shots at you is very bitch made, cowardly, and anti hip hop. Niggas is really telling on themselves when they say cats shouldn't respond. That makes me think if a nigga talk about you, your mama, step on your shoes and then spit in your face, u gonna say 'i ain't finna pay this nigga no attention. He ain't finna make a name off fighting me' and just act like a nigga didn't just talk about you, your mama, step on your shoes and spit in your face. Now, we all know it's not going to that extent in rap (and no, 2pac did not die over no ec vs wc bullshit, that was gang banging), so is that why niggas feel like it's ok to not respond? Ol sticcs and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt ass niggas!!!! Like curtis75black said, all the greats defended their legacy. Even luke let snoop and dr dre have it after they put out dre day. ('cowards in compton' by luke, youtube it). Nelly got at krs-1 after krs tried to talk slicc on him, so don't sit here and act like people are to big or too small in hip hop to respond to a nigga that's asking for it. But, i guess in this new age of hip-hop where niggas kiss niggas, fabricate their life story and gang affiliations and etc, that shit flies.
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