tompetrez3 wrote: »
factor in Jay Z jealously with Murder INC also. he always jealous of Irv Gotti. Irv Gotti was a brazen asshole like dame who treated white folks like shit but they still loved Irv. Irv had all the real connects, real relationships with the executive suits at the then Big 5. Irv had relationships with Jay Z biggest enemies (Nas, DMX, Death Row). Irv was the first CEO to have Def Jam take their imprint off LP, tapes, CD's (the only Def Jam references on Murder INC hardcopy albums was the manufactured by Island Def Jam Music Group tagline in fine print). Cant forget that ultimate bitch move Jay Z did when he snitched to DJ about murder INC artists "working" with his enemies. The nigga was trying to get Ashanti banned from the whats love video. the nigga got vita banned from the Burn video and her album shelved because she worked with mobb deep (vita album was supposed to drop before ms jade album in 2002). He snitched on Ja Rule for his relationship with J Lo (J Lo was at sony with......Nas!) J Lo had that one single with Nas in 2002 that had 2 commerically release edits that included and excluded nas. He went to lyles nervous and hating when Irv started that Nas joining murder Inc rumor and even dissed Ja Rule/MI (niggas twistin they fingers throwing funny gang signs line). When charli got on MI he started dissing her (she thought I was big or someshit line)
H-Rap 180 wrote: »
Why call me a 'nigga"??
Ja Rule turned himself in today, please attempt to be mature enough to see the discussion is about his career first and foremost, Emenim is just a side dish.
Man, I should have built with you before I made this thread, I do remember hearing 50Cent say on 106th & Park that Murder Inc. was funded by drug-dealers and being shocked that he dry-snitched on National T.V. so easily.
The incident were he told the Feds "listen to my lyrics" slipped my mind, thats some grimey business to add to stealing a mans style/swag after bambozling the public into believing you were the remedy to the sing-songy-pop disease that Hiphop had caught.
Mendy Rosen wrote: »
How was 50 dry snitching?
KingJamal wrote: »
Jada and Styles Outlining 50 in chalk
"u roll wit more police than the muthafuckin president"
Supreme_Mind999 wrote: »
Ja Rule career ended when he started doing too many duets..Them E pills turned his brain to mush and all of his albums started sounding the same..Ironically 50 took his style and ran with it..
H-Rap 180 wrote: »
LOL damn I swear you must have been close to that camp or know somebody that was.
This filled a few blanks for me because I always wanted to know what was behind the Vita situation and those J-lo edits
It was always strange to me why Jigger dipped out the game in 2003 while the Inc was going through all that drama, the more I learn the more I come to the conclusion that Sean Cory is a double-agent and a grimey dude.
b@squ1@t redux wrote: »
praise the most high for the teacha hrap consistently destroying the munkee via this message board!
one day with the help of sir rozay and gunplay aka the new john the baptist we will exterminate this vermin snitch from our sacred afrikan earth!!
this black devil has decimated our thriving afrikan black culture by warring with good hearted (almost said n*gga--never again since the v-nasty watergate) brothers and sisters while becoming famous off the wetdog neanderthal slavemaster
this housenegro must be stopped
the revolution begins now on the internet!!
say it in the mirror 3 times daily and after you kneel to the east and pray to him and he will slay this puppet of that fiendish culture vulture
sionb55 wrote: »
You've got to be kidding me bro..... Dude released album after album & not one of them shits was selling... Blood In My Eye flopped, The Last Temptation flopped (by Ja standards atleast, he was selling 3 & 4x plat domestically, internationally Ja was a star & sold just as well overseas). When 50 was dissing him its noticeable that the sales of his future records began to dip significantly. Ja couldnt even get proper radio play in NY - his HOME TURF SMMFH. If 50 could sell 20 million during their feud theres no reason why Ja's sales shouldnt have increased as well. The feds raiding murder inc was one thing but if anything it should have pushed their sales further. 50 Cent destroyed Ja Rule's career, Ja will NEVER be able to sell the way he once did.
Hrap u my nigga & all but *in pac voice* "u living fantasies my nigga i reject yo deposit when rick ross punk ass gonna come out of the closet" LOLOL.
H-Rap 180 wrote: »
(First off this has nothing to do with our burly ambassador of peace Sir William Rozay.)
"Blood in my Eye" (2003) sold a little under Gold but lets keep in mind that the failure of that project was due to Ja-Rule straying away from his hit-song Hip-pop formula for a bunch of diss tracks and Hussien Fatal from the Outlawz on 4 of the songs so he really thought he was Pac!!!
"Last Temptation" (2002) did not Flop it sold 237,000 units in its first week and went platinum at a Milli, but it was the begining of the end of his reign because he went too far PoP with that corny Grease video for "Mesmorize"...
"R.U.L.E" (2004) was Ja-Rules last solo-album on Murder inc. and it went Gold and had a Top 5 Gold single that was #1 in the U.K..
Now listen to me: In 2005 Def Jam and JayZ kicked Murder Inc off its label over that Fed ish and started Def Jam South; they left Irv and Ja-Rule for dead and Iovine damn near black-balled them, by the time they found a home it was already too late.
Im simply saying that their were a myriad of factors that contributed to Ja-Rules loss in popularity and you cant give 50Cent complete credit.
Its unfair to Ja-Rule to make it seem as if 50Cents "Diss-records" were the sole factor that slowed his career down.
Fazeem Blackall wrote: »
a couple of ways going on shows and doing interviews telling the feds to listen to his music if they want to know about Murder Inc and the Supreme teams Connection to his Stabbing and shooting. While making songs like this...