The Biggest Myth in HipHop is that JaRule's career ended because of 50Cent.

H-Rap 180 · June 2011

tompetrez3 wrote: »

factor in Jay Z jealously with Murder INC also. he always jealous of Irv Gotti. Irv Gotti was a brazen asshole like dame who treated white folks like shit but they still loved Irv. Irv had all the real connects, real relationships with the executive suits at the then Big 5. Irv had relationships with Jay Z biggest enemies (Nas, DMX, Death Row). Irv was the first CEO to have Def Jam take their imprint off LP, tapes, CD's (the only Def Jam references on Murder INC hardcopy albums was the manufactured by Island Def Jam Music Group tagline in fine print). Cant forget that ultimate bitch move Jay Z did when he snitched to DJ about murder INC artists "working" with his enemies. The nigga was trying to get Ashanti banned from the whats love video. the nigga got vita banned from the Burn video and her album shelved because she worked with mobb deep (vita album was supposed to drop before ms jade album in 2002). He snitched on Ja Rule for his relationship with J Lo (J Lo was at sony with......Nas!) J Lo had that one single with Nas in 2002 that had 2 commerically release edits that included and excluded nas. He went to lyles nervous and hating when Irv started that Nas joining murder Inc rumor and even dissed Ja Rule/MI (niggas twistin they fingers throwing funny gang signs line). When charli got on MI he started dissing her (she thought I was big or someshit line)

LOL damn I swear you must have been close to that camp or know somebody that was.

This filled a few blanks for me because I always wanted to know what was behind the Vita situation and those J-lo edits

It was always strange to me why Jigger dipped out the game in 2003 while the Inc was going through all that drama, the more I learn the more I come to the conclusion that Sean Cory is a double-agent and a grimey dude.

L3NU · June 2011

it seems like a bit of revisionist history...

at least around my area what happened was 50 blew up and you looked real lame if you was bumpin ja after 50 came out...

so yes its fickle fans but they jumped on the gunit bandwagon...if 50 never blew up its safe to say ja might still be on the radio

WHITE POWER!!!!!1 · June 2011

H-Rap 180 wrote: »

Why call me a 'nigga"??

Ja Rule turned himself in today, please attempt to be mature enough to see the discussion is about his career first and foremost, Emenim is just a side dish.

Man, I should have built with you before I made this thread, I do remember hearing 50Cent say on 106th & Park that Murder Inc. was funded by drug-dealers and being shocked that he dry-snitched on National T.V. so easily.

The incident were he told the Feds "listen to my lyrics" slipped my mind, thats some grimey business to add to stealing a mans style/swag after bambozling the public into believing you were the remedy to the sing-songy-pop disease that Hiphop had caught.

Mendy Rosen wrote: »

How was 50 dry snitching?

a couple of ways going on shows and doing interviews telling the feds to listen to his music if they want to know about Murder Inc and the Supreme teams Connection to his Stabbing and shooting. While making songs like this

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DMTxCannabis · June 2011

KingJamal wrote: »

Jada and Styles Outlining 50 in chalk

"u roll wit more police than the muthafuckin president"

That was my shit in the 8th grade...

Supreme_Mind999 · June 2011

Ja Rule career ended when he started doing too many duets..Them E pills turned his brain to mush and all of his albums started sounding the same..Ironically 50 took his style and ran with it..

b@squ1@t redux · June 2011

praise the most high for the teacha hrap consistently destroying the munkee via this message board!

one day with the help of sir rozay and gunplay aka the new john the baptist we will exterminate this vermin snitch from our sacred afrikan earth!!

this black devil has decimated our thriving afrikan black culture by warring with good hearted (almost said n*gga--never again since the v-nasty watergate) brothers and sisters while becoming famous off the wetdog neanderthal slavemaster

this housenegro must be stopped

the revolution begins now on the internet!!

praise rozay
praise rozay
praise rozay

say it in the mirror 3 times daily and after you kneel to the east and pray to him and he will slay this puppet of that fiendish culture vulture

icecoldstew · June 2011

Supreme_Mind999 wrote: »

Ja Rule career ended when he started doing too many duets..Them E pills turned his brain to mush and all of his albums started sounding the same..Ironically 50 took his style and ran with it..

Yes he did. Boooo that nigga (no sarcasm)

kacee139 · June 2011

Supreme_Mind999 wrote: »

Ja Rule career ended when he started doing too many duets..Them E pills turned his brain to mush and all of his albums started sounding the same..Ironically 50 took his style and ran with it..

And made about 300 million dollars wit it smh

Zig Zag Zigga · June 2011

Sing for hoes and sound like the cookie monster

Disciplined InSight · June 2011

H-Rap 180 wrote: »

LOL damn I swear you must have been close to that camp or know somebody that was.

This filled a few blanks for me because I always wanted to know what was behind the Vita situation and those J-lo edits

It was always strange to me why Jigger dipped out the game in 2003 while the Inc was going through all that drama, the more I learn the more I come to the conclusion that Sean Cory is a double-agent and a grimey dude.

The conclusion is definite truth though...but the Witnesses will say he did no wrong.

Disciplined InSight · June 2011

b@squ1@t redux wrote: »

praise the most high for the teacha hrap consistently destroying the munkee via this message board!

one day with the help of sir rozay and gunplay aka the new john the baptist we will exterminate this vermin snitch from our sacred afrikan earth!!

this black devil has decimated our thriving afrikan black culture by warring with good hearted (almost said n*gga--never again since the v-nasty watergate) brothers and sisters while becoming famous off the wetdog neanderthal slavemaster

this housenegro must be stopped

the revolution begins now on the internet!!

praise rozay
praise rozay
praise rozay

say it in the mirror 3 times daily and after you kneel to the east and pray to him and he will slay this puppet of that fiendish culture vulture

LMAO @ this dude...you seriously don't like Hrap do you?

H-Rap 180 · June 2011

sionb55 wrote: »

You've got to be kidding me bro..... Dude released album after album & not one of them shits was selling... Blood In My Eye flopped, The Last Temptation flopped (by Ja standards atleast, he was selling 3 & 4x plat domestically, internationally Ja was a star & sold just as well overseas). When 50 was dissing him its noticeable that the sales of his future records began to dip significantly. Ja couldnt even get proper radio play in NY - his HOME TURF SMMFH. If 50 could sell 20 million during their feud theres no reason why Ja's sales shouldnt have increased as well. The feds raiding murder inc was one thing but if anything it should have pushed their sales further. 50 Cent destroyed Ja Rule's career, Ja will NEVER be able to sell the way he once did.

Hrap u my nigga & all but *in pac voice* "u living fantasies my nigga i reject yo deposit when rick ross punk ass gonna come out of the closet" LOLOL.

(First off this has nothing to do with our burly ambassador of peace Sir William Rozay.)

"Blood in my Eye" (2003) sold a little under Gold but lets keep in mind that the failure of that project was due to Ja-Rule straying away from his hit-song Hip-pop formula for a bunch of diss tracks and Hussien Fatal from the Outlawz on 4 of the songs so he really thought he was Pac!!!

"Last Temptation" (2002) did not Flop it sold 237,000 units in its first week and went platinum at a Milli, but it was the begining of the end of his reign because he went too far PoP with that corny Grease video for "Mesmorize"...

"R.U.L.E" (2004) was Ja-Rules last solo-album on Murder inc. and it went Gold and had a Top 5 Gold single that was #1 in the U.K..

Now listen to me: In 2005 Def Jam and JayZ kicked Murder Inc off its label over that Fed ish and started Def Jam South; they left Irv and Ja-Rule for dead and Iovine damn near black-balled them, by the time they found a home it was already too late.

Im simply saying that their were a myriad of factors that contributed to Ja-Rules loss in popularity and you cant give 50Cent complete credit.

Its unfair to Ja-Rule to make it seem as if 50Cents "Diss-records" were the sole factor that slowed his career down.

thesynthesis · June 2011

Ja Rule killed his own career, his records were gettin corny towards the end

he over exposed himself

then he made the mortal sin of comparing himself to 2pac

50cent took note and got a 2pac verse and made a diss record, leaving ja rule embarrassed

to add further fuel that whiteboy em jumped in, busta rhymes

and then u also had dmx goin at Ja

nas jumped shipped on ja

and basically ja self destructed

brombonze · June 2011

how bout Ja just didn't make hits, hence your career goes down the tubes? if he was making hits nothing else would matter. it's funny how a lot of niggas are quick to blame fickle rap fans, but can't name 1 ja hit that got "slept" on because of 50 jay em or anybody else, and for those that say "how can you concentrate on hits wit da feds on ya back? i say, if you can scream about how u dodge haters in the street, the feds on ur back should be plenty to make hits. t/s is right 50 didn't cause ja's downfall, his fixation with "rain" did it

SHAYDEEEE · June 2011

he didnt kill his career but he made people stop fuckin wit him right before his success was over, so history will probably say he killed it. after 50's buzz died down a little bit the hatred bandwagon stopped and allowed ja to put out new york which was my favorite song ever back in fall '04. but after that he fucked up in a few ways with that mirror album. his first single followed the trend of havin lil wayne on ur first single and the second single "body" was just garbage. i've always been pullin for him low key tho, out of sympathy i guess

young_reezy · June 2011

it's ova.....

SHAYDEEEE · June 2011

H-Rap 180 wrote: »

(First off this has nothing to do with our burly ambassador of peace Sir William Rozay.)

"Blood in my Eye" (2003) sold a little under Gold but lets keep in mind that the failure of that project was due to Ja-Rule straying away from his hit-song Hip-pop formula for a bunch of diss tracks and Hussien Fatal from the Outlawz on 4 of the songs so he really thought he was Pac!!!

"Last Temptation" (2002) did not Flop it sold 237,000 units in its first week and went platinum at a Milli, but it was the begining of the end of his reign because he went too far PoP with that corny Grease video for "Mesmorize"...

"R.U.L.E" (2004) was Ja-Rules last solo-album on Murder inc. and it went Gold and had a Top 5 Gold single that was #1 in the U.K..

Now listen to me: In 2005 Def Jam and JayZ kicked Murder Inc off its label over that Fed ish and started Def Jam South; they left Irv and Ja-Rule for dead and Iovine damn near black-balled them, by the time they found a home it was already too late.

Im simply saying that their were a myriad of factors that contributed to Ja-Rules loss in popularity and you cant give 50Cent complete credit.

Its unfair to Ja-Rule to make it seem as if 50Cents "Diss-records" were the sole factor that slowed his career down.

pretty much and i'm almost positive r.u.l.e. went platinum too. not gonna lie i copped it lol the physical version.

R.D. · June 2011

Fazeem Blackall wrote: »

a couple of ways going on shows and doing interviews telling the feds to listen to his music if they want to know about Murder Inc and the Supreme teams Connection to his Stabbing and shooting. While making songs like this
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cleraly doesnt know what hes talking bout post but this is just a 50 hate thread so carry on

MadSirius · June 2011

Free Ja!

..............

numbaz...80's baby · June 2011

Cosign this powerful thread.

Ja Rule had the New York record and anotha hit "singing" record after GRODT came out. I been saying this from jump, Supreme's case left Murder Inc. broke. That's y there was no more Ashanti or Lloyd shit on Murder Inc. 50 Cent had nothing to do w/ their music. That plus that bullshit ass single he did w/ Wayne.

Cabana_Da_Don · June 2011

You gotta make hitz.If you stop making hitz someone else will.

georgia boi · June 2011

I co-sign this thread.

When 50 debuted, Ja Rule's sales were already declining. People act like Ja Rule was in the prime of his career and 50 came out and destroyed Ja's fanbase overnight. Ja Rule's decline was gradual. It had little to do with 50.

a.mann · June 2011

I think its fair to say, 50’s under dog appear then the huge co-sign from 2 of the biggest names in hip hop along with all the slick promotion and marketing of a major definitely play a good percentage in Ja’s down wind slide.

Rhymesfinest · June 2011

Who in the hood would listen to Ja Rule? you would get clowned so badly if you bumped Ja Rule in the hood

The Singing was atrocious, Voice is the worst and Lyrics were weak

DatNiggaB1 · June 2011

I disagree, 50 came wid the diss records and people stop fucking wit Rule all together....

Aint a case of fickle fans.....

Its a case of 50 made him look stupid and he couldn't bounce back with good music. Something that Ross managed to do.

The irony is that 50 dissed Ja's style and then took it and ran wid it.

Fickle fans belong to 50 for not recognising this.

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